2015 ZiPS Projections – Toronto Blue Jays
After having typically appeared in the very hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have been released at FanGraphs the past couple years. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the Toronto Blue Jays. Szymborski can be found at ESPN and on Twitter at @DSzymborski.
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Batters
It’s likely promising for the 2015 edition of the Blue Jays — a club that finished second in the AL East last season by Base Runs — it’s likely promising that five of the ten best WAR projections per ZiPS this year belong to players who’ve been acquired over the offseason. Ezequiel Carrera (548 PA, 1.1 WAR), Josh Donaldson (634 PA, 5.1 WAR), Russell Martin (453 PA, 3.6 WAR), Michael Saunders (442 PA, 2.1 WAR), and Devon Travis (505 PA, 0.9 WAR) all profile at least as competent bench players or, in the case of Donaldson, potential MVP candidates*.
*At least, that is, in a world without Mike Trout.
Jose Bautista and Edwin Encarnacion, for their part, remain the club’s best hitters and also curiously similar in terms of approach. Both are projected to produce something better than a .240 ISO. Neither, meanwhile, is forecast to produce a strikeout rate more than three percentage greater than his walk rate. And, finally, neither is expected to record anything greater than a .270 BABIP.
Pitchers
While the 25-man roster is likely to be populated by a number of new hitters, the Blue Jays’ pitching corps remains mostly the same. Sophomore right-hander Marcus Stroman technically receives the best projection of the club’s prospective starters, but he and Mark Buehrle and R.A. Dickey all profile similarly in terms of run prevention.
The right-handed Aaron Sanchez is a curious case, as a result of the relatively wide disparity between his raw talent and performances. Working exclusively in relief last year, Sanchez parlayed his 97.1 mph fastball into a 72 FIP- and 0.6 WAR over just 33.0 innings. His 7.4% walk rate as a major leaguer, however, represented the absolutely lowest such mark he’d posted over the course of his entire professional career. ZiPS forecasts more difficulty for Sanchez in a starting role this next season (127.2 IP, 12.2% BB, 0.9 WAR).
Bench/Prospects
Omitted from the depth chart below are Steve Tolleson (361 PA, 0.3 WAR) and Travis, but both are likely to receive starts at second base. Also omitted is Dioner Navarro (380 PA, 1.6 WAR), who played both catcher and DH last year. Among the club’s rookie-eligible batters, center fielder Dalton Pompey (561 PA, 1.2 WAR) receives the top projection. Left-hander Daniel Norris (132.1 IP, 1.3 WAR) features the best one among the team’s pitching prospects.
Depth Chart
Below is a rough depth chart for the present incarnation of the Blue Jays, with rounded projected WAR totals for each player. For caveats regarding WAR values see disclaimer at bottom of post. Click to embiggen image.
Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site and author’s own haphazard reasoning.
Batters, Counting Stats
Player | B | Age | PO | PA | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Josh Donaldson | R | 29 | 3B | 634 | 82 | 150 | 33 | 2 | 26 | 91 | 7 | 2 |
Jose Bautista | R | 34 | RF | 524 | 78 | 116 | 21 | 0 | 29 | 84 | 6 | 2 |
Russell Martin | R | 32 | C | 453 | 47 | 92 | 18 | 0 | 16 | 63 | 6 | 4 |
Edwin Encarnacion | R | 32 | 1B | 559 | 76 | 132 | 27 | 1 | 30 | 97 | 6 | 1 |
Jose Reyes | B | 32 | SS | 609 | 80 | 160 | 31 | 5 | 10 | 50 | 26 | 6 |
Michael Saunders | L | 28 | RF | 442 | 66 | 96 | 22 | 3 | 14 | 60 | 10 | 4 |
Dioner Navarro | B | 31 | C | 380 | 34 | 93 | 15 | 0 | 10 | 49 | 1 | 0 |
Dalton Pompey | B | 22 | CF | 561 | 59 | 123 | 20 | 6 | 8 | 47 | 28 | 7 |
Ezequiel Carrera | L | 28 | CF | 548 | 63 | 127 | 20 | 5 | 6 | 42 | 35 | 10 |
Devon Travis | R | 24 | 2B | 505 | 56 | 114 | 17 | 4 | 13 | 50 | 11 | 5 |
A.J. Jimenez | R | 25 | C | 317 | 28 | 73 | 17 | 1 | 4 | 28 | 3 | 2 |
Danny Valencia | R | 30 | 3B | 427 | 41 | 100 | 25 | 2 | 12 | 55 | 2 | 3 |
Derrick Chung | R | 27 | C | 301 | 25 | 69 | 12 | 0 | 1 | 19 | 1 | 3 |
Ryan Schimpf | L | 27 | 2B | 476 | 51 | 83 | 21 | 2 | 18 | 56 | 2 | 2 |
Kevin Pillar | R | 26 | LF | 609 | 66 | 153 | 37 | 3 | 11 | 64 | 20 | 8 |
Andy Dirks | L | 29 | LF | 271 | 33 | 64 | 12 | 2 | 6 | 24 | 4 | 1 |
Sean Ochinko | R | 27 | C | 263 | 24 | 56 | 13 | 0 | 6 | 26 | 0 | 1 |
Steve Tolleson | R | 31 | SS | 361 | 36 | 75 | 14 | 2 | 5 | 31 | 8 | 3 |
Dwight Smith Jr. | L | 22 | LF | 547 | 60 | 125 | 22 | 4 | 11 | 53 | 14 | 5 |
Daric Barton | L | 29 | 1B | 469 | 51 | 95 | 22 | 1 | 8 | 47 | 2 | 1 |
Justin Smoak | B | 28 | 1B | 525 | 61 | 112 | 24 | 0 | 18 | 68 | 0 | 1 |
Matt Hague | R | 29 | 3B | 516 | 55 | 112 | 24 | 1 | 11 | 58 | 2 | 2 |
Josh Thole | L | 28 | C | 265 | 23 | 59 | 10 | 1 | 3 | 20 | 0 | 2 |
Maicer Izturis | B | 34 | 2B | 232 | 22 | 54 | 10 | 0 | 3 | 14 | 5 | 2 |
Andy LaRoche | R | 31 | 3B | 324 | 32 | 70 | 17 | 0 | 7 | 35 | 1 | 1 |
Melky Mesa | R | 28 | CF | 354 | 37 | 70 | 16 | 2 | 12 | 40 | 8 | 4 |
Jack Murphy | B | 27 | C | 235 | 21 | 43 | 9 | 1 | 5 | 23 | 0 | 0 |
Jake Fox | R | 32 | 1B | 336 | 41 | 71 | 18 | 0 | 13 | 52 | 0 | 0 |
Brett Wallace | L | 28 | 1B | 547 | 65 | 119 | 22 | 1 | 20 | 67 | 1 | 1 |
Chris Getz | L | 31 | 2B | 231 | 24 | 51 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 15 | 11 | 3 |
Ramon Santiago | B | 35 | 2B | 219 | 20 | 44 | 8 | 1 | 2 | 18 | 1 | 1 |
Cory Aldridge | L | 36 | RF | 291 | 35 | 57 | 7 | 0 | 14 | 35 | 1 | 1 |
Ryan Goins | L | 27 | 2B | 580 | 49 | 127 | 25 | 3 | 5 | 48 | 4 | 5 |
Jared Goedert | R | 30 | 3B | 450 | 47 | 92 | 19 | 1 | 11 | 48 | 2 | 0 |
Munenori Kawasaki | L | 34 | 2B | 352 | 35 | 74 | 10 | 3 | 0 | 26 | 5 | 2 |
Mike Nickeas | R | 32 | C | 195 | 15 | 36 | 7 | 0 | 2 | 16 | 0 | 0 |
Chris Colabello | R | 31 | 1B | 512 | 54 | 108 | 25 | 0 | 19 | 73 | 0 | 1 |
Jonathan Diaz | R | 30 | SS | 406 | 35 | 73 | 12 | 1 | 2 | 25 | 7 | 4 |
Ryan Kalish | L | 27 | LF | 302 | 34 | 64 | 12 | 3 | 6 | 30 | 10 | 4 |
Mitch Nay | R | 21 | 3B | 496 | 46 | 110 | 25 | 1 | 5 | 45 | 4 | 2 |
Caleb Gindl | L | 26 | RF | 491 | 48 | 100 | 23 | 3 | 10 | 46 | 3 | 2 |
Ricardo Nanita | L | 34 | RF | 299 | 30 | 68 | 13 | 1 | 6 | 30 | 2 | 1 |
Brett Carroll | R | 32 | RF | 250 | 25 | 44 | 9 | 1 | 6 | 21 | 3 | 2 |
Brad Glenn | R | 28 | RF | 492 | 46 | 94 | 21 | 1 | 15 | 54 | 2 | 1 |
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Batters, Rates and Averages
Player | PA | BB% | K% | ISO | BABIP | AVG | OBP | SLG | wOBA |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Josh Donaldson | 634 | 9.1% | 19.6% | .203 | .295 | .265 | .338 | .468 | .352 |
Jose Bautista | 524 | 15.1% | 16.4% | .248 | .269 | .267 | .384 | .515 | .386 |
Russell Martin | 453 | 11.0% | 22.5% | .170 | .278 | .237 | .337 | .407 | .327 |
Edwin Encarnacion | 559 | 11.4% | 14.1% | .244 | .267 | .270 | .358 | .514 | .374 |
Jose Reyes | 609 | 6.7% | 9.9% | .127 | .303 | .285 | .333 | .412 | .329 |
Michael Saunders | 442 | 10.0% | 25.6% | .179 | .306 | .246 | .320 | .425 | .326 |
Dioner Navarro | 380 | 6.6% | 14.7% | .129 | .289 | .266 | .314 | .395 | .311 |
Dalton Pompey | 561 | 7.3% | 24.4% | .109 | .310 | .239 | .298 | .348 | .295 |
Ezequiel Carrera | 548 | 6.0% | 19.2% | .096 | .307 | .252 | .303 | .348 | .293 |
Devon Travis | 505 | 5.3% | 16.8% | .137 | .271 | .244 | .290 | .381 | .296 |
A.J. Jimenez | 317 | 4.1% | 18.9% | .104 | .290 | .245 | .275 | .349 | .274 |
Danny Valencia | 427 | 4.7% | 19.9% | .161 | .285 | .249 | .283 | .410 | .302 |
Derrick Chung | 301 | 4.7% | 15.6% | .054 | .291 | .246 | .288 | .300 | .260 |
Ryan Schimpf | 476 | 8.4% | 33.8% | .185 | .260 | .195 | .272 | .380 | .286 |
Kevin Pillar | 609 | 3.6% | 17.4% | .132 | .307 | .266 | .297 | .398 | .305 |
Andy Dirks | 271 | 7.0% | 19.2% | .137 | .302 | .257 | .311 | .394 | .311 |
Sean Ochinko | 263 | 4.9% | 21.7% | .125 | .270 | .227 | .270 | .352 | .276 |
Steve Tolleson | 361 | 7.5% | 23.5% | .101 | .294 | .231 | .291 | .332 | .279 |
Dwight Smith Jr. | 547 | 7.1% | 19.7% | .124 | .295 | .248 | .302 | .372 | .301 |
Daric Barton | 469 | 11.1% | 16.0% | .118 | .264 | .233 | .324 | .351 | .304 |
Justin Smoak | 525 | 9.7% | 21.9% | .168 | .278 | .240 | .316 | .408 | .318 |
Matt Hague | 516 | 6.8% | 20.3% | .125 | .281 | .237 | .297 | .362 | .293 |
Josh Thole | 265 | 7.9% | 15.8% | .088 | .287 | .247 | .309 | .335 | .280 |
Maicer Izturis | 232 | 6.5% | 11.6% | .089 | .277 | .254 | .304 | .343 | .289 |
Andy LaRoche | 324 | 5.6% | 17.3% | .127 | .264 | .234 | .282 | .361 | .282 |
Melky Mesa | 354 | 4.0% | 35.0% | .167 | .291 | .210 | .251 | .377 | .278 |
Jack Murphy | 235 | 6.8% | 28.9% | .120 | .264 | .199 | .256 | .319 | .258 |
Jake Fox | 336 | 5.1% | 25.0% | .184 | .271 | .230 | .286 | .414 | .305 |
Brett Wallace | 547 | 6.2% | 32.0% | .167 | .319 | .237 | .294 | .404 | .306 |
Chris Getz | 231 | 5.6% | 11.7% | .057 | .273 | .243 | .289 | .300 | .261 |
Ramon Santiago | 219 | 7.8% | 16.9% | .084 | .273 | .229 | .300 | .313 | .271 |
Cory Aldridge | 291 | 8.2% | 40.2% | .186 | .319 | .216 | .282 | .402 | .300 |
Ryan Goins | 580 | 4.5% | 20.7% | .085 | .293 | .236 | .271 | .321 | .257 |
Jared Goedert | 450 | 7.1% | 25.6% | .130 | .278 | .222 | .278 | .352 | .281 |
Munenori Kawasaki | 352 | 6.8% | 15.9% | .052 | .286 | .236 | .295 | .288 | .259 |
Mike Nickeas | 195 | 6.2% | 21.5% | .073 | .254 | .205 | .257 | .278 | .238 |
Chris Colabello | 512 | 6.6% | 28.7% | .174 | .290 | .230 | .287 | .404 | .304 |
Jonathan Diaz | 406 | 8.4% | 20.7% | .056 | .264 | .207 | .286 | .263 | .248 |
Ryan Kalish | 302 | 6.3% | 26.5% | .129 | .299 | .229 | .280 | .358 | .282 |
Mitch Nay | 496 | 5.2% | 20.2% | .089 | .288 | .236 | .276 | .325 | .269 |
Caleb Gindl | 491 | 7.5% | 25.7% | .132 | .287 | .223 | .284 | .355 | .282 |
Ricardo Nanita | 299 | 4.3% | 16.7% | .117 | .273 | .242 | .279 | .359 | .278 |
Brett Carroll | 250 | 7.2% | 31.6% | .128 | .266 | .195 | .261 | .323 | .262 |
Brad Glenn | 492 | 5.5% | 33.1% | .148 | .279 | .206 | .253 | .354 | .269 |
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Batters, Assorted Other
Player | PA | RC/27 | OPS+ | Def | zWAR | No.1 Comp |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Josh Donaldson | 634 | 5.9 | 120 | 9 | 5.1 | Todd Zeile |
Jose Bautista | 524 | 7.3 | 146 | 2 | 4.2 | Dwight Evans |
Russell Martin | 453 | 4.8 | 105 | 7 | 3.6 | Chris Hoiles |
Edwin Encarnacion | 559 | 6.9 | 137 | -3 | 2.9 | Roy Sievers |
Jose Reyes | 609 | 5.5 | 104 | -7 | 2.7 | Tony Fernandez |
Michael Saunders | 442 | 4.9 | 104 | 9 | 2.1 | Michael Tucker |
Dioner Navarro | 380 | 4.6 | 95 | -2 | 1.6 | Joe Azcue |
Dalton Pompey | 561 | 4.0 | 78 | 3 | 1.2 | Milt Cuyler |
Ezequiel Carrera | 548 | 4.1 | 79 | 1 | 1.1 | Chris Duffy |
Devon Travis | 505 | 4.0 | 84 | 0 | 0.9 | Steven Singleton |
A.J. Jimenez | 317 | 3.4 | 71 | 3 | 0.8 | Guillermo Garcia |
Danny Valencia | 427 | 4.1 | 89 | -2 | 0.6 | Juan Uribe |
Derrick Chung | 301 | 2.9 | 63 | 3 | 0.4 | Raul Chavez |
Ryan Schimpf | 476 | 3.4 | 78 | 0 | 0.4 | Todd Carey |
Kevin Pillar | 609 | 4.4 | 90 | 0 | 0.4 | Mitch Maier |
Andy Dirks | 271 | 4.5 | 93 | 0 | 0.4 | Len Gabrielson |
Sean Ochinko | 263 | 3.2 | 70 | -1 | 0.4 | Jeff Winchester |
Steve Tolleson | 361 | 3.5 | 72 | -1 | 0.3 | Bill Lyons |
Dwight Smith Jr. | 547 | 4.1 | 85 | 1 | 0.3 | Tom Lombarski |
Daric Barton | 469 | 4.0 | 87 | 3 | 0.2 | Mike Twardoski |
Justin Smoak | 525 | 4.5 | 98 | -3 | 0.2 | Larry Sutton |
Matt Hague | 516 | 3.8 | 81 | -5 | 0.1 | Dale Berra |
Josh Thole | 265 | 3.5 | 78 | -5 | 0.1 | Matt Tupman |
Maicer Izturis | 232 | 3.8 | 79 | -2 | 0.1 | Craig Wilson |
Andy LaRoche | 324 | 3.6 | 76 | -1 | 0.0 | Jason Wood |
Melky Mesa | 354 | 3.2 | 71 | 0 | 0.0 | Scott Wade |
Jack Murphy | 235 | 2.8 | 58 | -1 | 0.0 | Tom Nieto |
Jake Fox | 336 | 4.2 | 90 | -1 | -0.1 | Ed Sprague |
Brett Wallace | 547 | 4.2 | 90 | -1 | -0.1 | Chris Wakeland |
Chris Getz | 231 | 3.4 | 63 | 0 | -0.1 | Paul Faries |
Ramon Santiago | 219 | 3.2 | 70 | -2 | -0.2 | Rene Gonzales |
Cory Aldridge | 291 | 3.9 | 86 | -2 | -0.2 | Dann Howitt |
Ryan Goins | 580 | 3.0 | 63 | 5 | -0.2 | Felix Molina |
Jared Goedert | 450 | 3.4 | 73 | -4 | -0.2 | Chris Saunders |
Munenori Kawasaki | 352 | 3.0 | 62 | 0 | -0.3 | Don Blasingame |
Mike Nickeas | 195 | 2.4 | 48 | -1 | -0.4 | Charlie Greene |
Chris Colabello | 512 | 4.0 | 88 | -1 | -0.4 | Juan Thomas |
Jonathan Diaz | 406 | 2.5 | 53 | 0 | -0.4 | Brandon Chaves |
Ryan Kalish | 302 | 3.6 | 75 | -1 | -0.4 | Jalal Leach |
Mitch Nay | 496 | 3.2 | 66 | -1 | -0.5 | Rob Cosby |
Caleb Gindl | 491 | 3.5 | 75 | 1 | -0.5 | Craig Cooper |
Ricardo Nanita | 299 | 3.6 | 75 | -1 | -0.5 | Joe Orsulak |
Brett Carroll | 250 | 2.8 | 60 | 0 | -0.8 | Alan Cockrell |
Brad Glenn | 492 | 3.0 | 65 | -3 | -1.5 | Troy Farnsworth |
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Pitchers, Counting Stats
Player | T | Age | G | GS | IP | K | BB | HR | H | R | ER |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Marcus Stroman | R | 24 | 34 | 30 | 174.0 | 150 | 38 | 18 | 169 | 77 | 72 |
R.A. Dickey | R | 37 | 30 | 30 | 194.0 | 152 | 59 | 25 | 185 | 93 | 87 |
Mark Buehrle | L | 36 | 30 | 30 | 191.0 | 110 | 45 | 18 | 214 | 93 | 87 |
Drew Hutchison | R | 24 | 27 | 27 | 151.3 | 143 | 48 | 20 | 146 | 76 | 71 |
Daniel Norris | L | 22 | 34 | 28 | 132.3 | 143 | 60 | 20 | 121 | 68 | 64 |
Marco Estrada | R | 31 | 31 | 22 | 142.0 | 130 | 38 | 25 | 137 | 75 | 70 |
Liam Hendriks | R | 26 | 31 | 28 | 167.0 | 115 | 35 | 23 | 184 | 93 | 87 |
Aaron Sanchez | R | 22 | 47 | 20 | 127.7 | 102 | 70 | 14 | 119 | 67 | 63 |
Jeff Francis | L | 34 | 24 | 16 | 96.3 | 81 | 25 | 14 | 100 | 51 | 48 |
Brett Cecil | L | 28 | 70 | 0 | 64.7 | 75 | 27 | 6 | 56 | 27 | 25 |
Aaron Loup | L | 27 | 74 | 0 | 74.7 | 60 | 24 | 7 | 70 | 32 | 30 |
Todd Redmond | R | 30 | 46 | 0 | 71.3 | 60 | 25 | 7 | 70 | 33 | 31 |
Rob Rasmussen | L | 26 | 54 | 0 | 61.3 | 56 | 28 | 6 | 57 | 29 | 27 |
Colt Hynes | L | 30 | 56 | 0 | 63.3 | 56 | 13 | 8 | 63 | 30 | 28 |
Wilton Lopez | R | 31 | 51 | 0 | 65.0 | 51 | 12 | 8 | 68 | 31 | 29 |
Jayson Aquino | L | 22 | 18 | 17 | 100.7 | 67 | 40 | 14 | 112 | 61 | 57 |
Steve Delabar | R | 31 | 60 | 0 | 61.7 | 74 | 34 | 8 | 53 | 31 | 29 |
Raul Valdes | L | 37 | 32 | 9 | 75.7 | 66 | 22 | 13 | 79 | 44 | 41 |
Dustin McGowan | R | 33 | 45 | 4 | 58.7 | 48 | 28 | 8 | 58 | 32 | 30 |
Cory Burns | R | 27 | 55 | 0 | 69.3 | 57 | 23 | 8 | 71 | 35 | 33 |
Frank Francisco | R | 35 | 20 | 0 | 18.3 | 19 | 7 | 2 | 17 | 10 | 9 |
Juan Oramas | L | 25 | 21 | 20 | 101.0 | 83 | 42 | 16 | 108 | 62 | 58 |
Ryan Tepera | R | 27 | 40 | 11 | 89.3 | 66 | 40 | 12 | 94 | 52 | 49 |
John Stilson | R | 24 | 33 | 0 | 44.7 | 36 | 18 | 5 | 45 | 24 | 22 |
Bo Schultz | R | 29 | 37 | 16 | 111.7 | 69 | 41 | 15 | 124 | 67 | 63 |
Matt West | R | 26 | 42 | 0 | 57.0 | 49 | 21 | 8 | 58 | 31 | 29 |
Preston Guilmet | R | 27 | 52 | 0 | 58.7 | 52 | 16 | 10 | 59 | 32 | 30 |
Chad Jenkins | R | 27 | 44 | 4 | 77.7 | 44 | 17 | 12 | 89 | 45 | 42 |
Scott Barnes | L | 27 | 33 | 2 | 42.3 | 40 | 25 | 6 | 41 | 26 | 24 |
Greg Infante | R | 27 | 40 | 0 | 44.0 | 37 | 26 | 5 | 44 | 26 | 24 |
Greg Burke | R | 32 | 46 | 0 | 60.3 | 56 | 25 | 9 | 61 | 34 | 32 |
Andrew Albers | L | 29 | 26 | 26 | 140.7 | 87 | 37 | 23 | 164 | 90 | 84 |
Bobby Korecky | R | 35 | 43 | 1 | 62.0 | 40 | 21 | 9 | 69 | 37 | 35 |
Austin Bibens-Dirkx | R | 30 | 33 | 15 | 109.7 | 76 | 37 | 19 | 123 | 71 | 66 |
Kyle Drabek | R | 27 | 25 | 13 | 79.3 | 53 | 30 | 15 | 90 | 54 | 50 |
P.J. Walters | R | 30 | 26 | 25 | 129.0 | 83 | 54 | 22 | 148 | 88 | 82 |
Scott Copeland | R | 27 | 28 | 25 | 141.3 | 76 | 70 | 20 | 164 | 96 | 90 |
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Pitchers, Rates and Averages
Player | IP | TBF | K% | BB% | BABIP | ERA | FIP | ERA- | FIP- |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Marcus Stroman | 174.0 | 729 | 20.6% | 5.2% | .292 | 3.72 | 3.61 | 92 | 89 |
R.A. Dickey | 194.0 | 826 | 18.4% | 7.1% | .276 | 4.04 | 4.43 | 100 | 109 |
Mark Buehrle | 191.0 | 832 | 13.2% | 5.4% | .299 | 4.10 | 4.11 | 101 | 102 |
Drew Hutchison | 151.3 | 648 | 22.1% | 7.4% | .293 | 4.22 | 4.17 | 104 | 103 |
Daniel Norris | 132.3 | 578 | 24.7% | 10.4% | .290 | 4.35 | 4.59 | 107 | 113 |
Marco Estrada | 142.0 | 601 | 21.6% | 6.3% | .276 | 4.44 | 4.57 | 110 | 113 |
Liam Hendriks | 167.0 | 720 | 16.0% | 4.9% | .300 | 4.69 | 4.47 | 116 | 111 |
Aaron Sanchez | 127.7 | 572 | 17.8% | 12.2% | .277 | 4.44 | 4.86 | 110 | 120 |
Jeff Francis | 96.3 | 414 | 19.6% | 6.0% | .298 | 4.48 | 4.35 | 111 | 107 |
Brett Cecil | 64.7 | 277 | 27.1% | 9.7% | .301 | 3.48 | 3.41 | 86 | 84 |
Aaron Loup | 74.7 | 318 | 18.9% | 7.5% | .285 | 3.62 | 3.93 | 89 | 97 |
Todd Redmond | 71.3 | 309 | 19.4% | 8.1% | .293 | 3.91 | 3.75 | 97 | 93 |
Rob Rasmussen | 61.3 | 269 | 20.8% | 10.4% | .293 | 3.96 | 4.33 | 98 | 107 |
Colt Hynes | 63.3 | 266 | 21.1% | 4.9% | .296 | 3.98 | 3.85 | 98 | 95 |
Wilton Lopez | 65.0 | 275 | 18.5% | 4.4% | .297 | 4.02 | 3.85 | 99 | 95 |
Jayson Aquino | 100.7 | 454 | 14.8% | 8.8% | .300 | 5.10 | 5.09 | 126 | 126 |
Steve Delabar | 61.7 | 272 | 27.2% | 12.5% | .296 | 4.23 | 4.36 | 104 | 108 |
Raul Valdes | 75.7 | 328 | 20.1% | 6.7% | .296 | 4.88 | 4.75 | 121 | 117 |
Dustin McGowan | 58.7 | 262 | 18.3% | 10.7% | .286 | 4.60 | 4.94 | 114 | 122 |
Cory Burns | 69.3 | 302 | 18.9% | 7.6% | .300 | 4.28 | 4.16 | 106 | 103 |
Frank Francisco | 18.3 | 79 | 24.1% | 8.9% | .295 | 4.42 | 3.76 | 109 | 93 |
Juan Oramas | 101.0 | 453 | 18.3% | 9.3% | .301 | 5.17 | 5.08 | 128 | 126 |
Ryan Tepera | 89.3 | 402 | 16.4% | 10.0% | .294 | 4.94 | 4.98 | 122 | 123 |
John Stilson | 44.7 | 197 | 18.3% | 9.1% | .296 | 4.43 | 4.52 | 109 | 112 |
Bo Schultz | 111.7 | 500 | 13.8% | 8.2% | .295 | 5.08 | 4.96 | 125 | 123 |
Matt West | 57.0 | 250 | 19.6% | 8.4% | .296 | 4.58 | 4.59 | 113 | 113 |
Preston Guilmet | 58.7 | 251 | 20.7% | 6.4% | .288 | 4.60 | 4.58 | 114 | 113 |
Chad Jenkins | 77.7 | 339 | 13.0% | 5.0% | .293 | 4.87 | 4.88 | 120 | 121 |
Scott Barnes | 42.3 | 193 | 20.7% | 13.0% | .297 | 5.10 | 5.28 | 126 | 130 |
Greg Infante | 44.0 | 202 | 18.3% | 12.9% | .298 | 4.91 | 4.97 | 121 | 123 |
Greg Burke | 60.3 | 267 | 21.0% | 9.4% | .299 | 4.77 | 4.65 | 118 | 115 |
Andrew Albers | 140.7 | 623 | 14.0% | 5.9% | .301 | 5.37 | 5.12 | 133 | 126 |
Bobby Korecky | 62.0 | 276 | 14.5% | 7.6% | .297 | 5.08 | 5.08 | 125 | 125 |
Austin Bibens-Dirkx | 109.7 | 489 | 15.5% | 7.6% | .297 | 5.42 | 5.34 | 134 | 132 |
Kyle Drabek | 79.3 | 358 | 14.8% | 8.4% | .293 | 5.67 | 5.68 | 140 | 140 |
P.J. Walters | 129.0 | 589 | 14.1% | 9.2% | .298 | 5.72 | 5.62 | 141 | 139 |
Scott Copeland | 141.3 | 658 | 11.6% | 10.6% | .298 | 5.73 | 5.71 | 142 | 141 |
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Pitchers, Assorted Other
Player | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | ERA+ | zWAR | No. 1 Comp |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Marcus Stroman | 174.0 | 7.76 | 1.97 | 0.93 | 108 | 3.1 | Carl Pavano |
R.A. Dickey | 194.0 | 7.05 | 2.74 | 1.16 | 99 | 2.7 | Joe Niekro |
Mark Buehrle | 191.0 | 5.18 | 2.12 | 0.85 | 98 | 2.5 | Claude Osteen |
Drew Hutchison | 151.3 | 8.51 | 2.86 | 1.19 | 95 | 1.8 | Ervin Santana |
Daniel Norris | 132.3 | 9.73 | 4.08 | 1.36 | 92 | 1.3 | Cliff Lee |
Marco Estrada | 142.0 | 8.24 | 2.41 | 1.58 | 90 | 1.2 | Hideki Irabu |
Liam Hendriks | 167.0 | 6.20 | 1.89 | 1.24 | 86 | 0.9 | Heath Totten |
Aaron Sanchez | 127.7 | 7.19 | 4.93 | 0.99 | 90 | 0.9 | Joe Blanton |
Jeff Francis | 96.3 | 7.57 | 2.34 | 1.31 | 90 | 0.7 | Buzz Oliver |
Brett Cecil | 64.7 | 10.43 | 3.76 | 0.83 | 115 | 0.7 | Hector Mercado |
Aaron Loup | 74.7 | 7.23 | 2.89 | 0.84 | 111 | 0.6 | Don Florence |
Todd Redmond | 71.3 | 7.57 | 3.16 | 0.88 | 103 | 0.3 | Chad Paronto |
Rob Rasmussen | 61.3 | 8.22 | 4.11 | 0.88 | 101 | 0.2 | Scott Wiggins |
Colt Hynes | 63.3 | 7.96 | 1.85 | 1.14 | 101 | 0.2 | Erasmo Ramirez |
Wilton Lopez | 65.0 | 7.06 | 1.66 | 1.11 | 100 | 0.2 | Gil Heredia |
Jayson Aquino | 100.7 | 5.99 | 3.57 | 1.25 | 79 | 0.0 | Jim Crowell |
Steve Delabar | 61.7 | 10.79 | 4.96 | 1.17 | 95 | 0.0 | Calvin Jones |
Raul Valdes | 75.7 | 7.85 | 2.62 | 1.55 | 82 | 0.0 | Chris Nichting |
Dustin McGowan | 58.7 | 7.36 | 4.29 | 1.23 | 87 | 0.0 | David Lee |
Cory Burns | 69.3 | 7.40 | 2.99 | 1.04 | 94 | 0.0 | Scott Roehl |
Frank Francisco | 18.3 | 9.34 | 3.44 | 0.98 | 91 | 0.0 | Ricky Bottalico |
Juan Oramas | 101.0 | 7.40 | 3.74 | 1.43 | 78 | -0.1 | Mike Bynum |
Ryan Tepera | 89.3 | 6.65 | 4.03 | 1.21 | 81 | -0.1 | Marty McLeary |
John Stilson | 44.7 | 7.25 | 3.62 | 1.01 | 91 | -0.1 | Steve LaRose |
Bo Schultz | 111.7 | 5.56 | 3.30 | 1.21 | 79 | -0.2 | Elliot Brown |
Matt West | 57.0 | 7.74 | 3.32 | 1.26 | 88 | -0.2 | Steve Ellsworth |
Preston Guilmet | 58.7 | 7.97 | 2.45 | 1.53 | 87 | -0.3 | Heath Bost |
Chad Jenkins | 77.7 | 5.10 | 1.97 | 1.39 | 82 | -0.3 | Tony Phillips |
Scott Barnes | 42.3 | 8.51 | 5.32 | 1.28 | 79 | -0.3 | Keith Glauber |
Greg Infante | 44.0 | 7.57 | 5.32 | 1.02 | 82 | -0.4 | Johnny Humphries |
Greg Burke | 60.3 | 8.36 | 3.73 | 1.34 | 84 | -0.4 | David Lee |
Andrew Albers | 140.7 | 5.57 | 2.37 | 1.47 | 75 | -0.5 | Scott Downs |
Bobby Korecky | 62.0 | 5.81 | 3.05 | 1.31 | 79 | -0.6 | Terry Mathews |
Austin Bibens-Dirkx | 109.7 | 6.24 | 3.04 | 1.56 | 74 | -0.6 | Jason Roach |
Kyle Drabek | 79.3 | 6.02 | 3.40 | 1.70 | 71 | -0.7 | Vic Martin |
P.J. Walters | 129.0 | 5.79 | 3.77 | 1.53 | 70 | -1.0 | Kip Bouknight |
Scott Copeland | 141.3 | 4.84 | 4.46 | 1.27 | 70 | -1.1 | Jim Hunter |
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Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2014. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.
Players are listed with their most recent teams unless Dan has made a mistake. This is very possible as a lot of minor-league signings are generally unreported in the offseason.
ZiPS is projecting based on the AL having a 3.93 ERA and the NL having a 3.75 ERA.
Players that are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information and a computer isn’t what should be projecting the injury status of, for example, a pitcher with Tommy John surgery.
Regarding ERA+ vs. ERA- (and FIP+ vs. FIP-) and the differences therein: as Patriot notes here, they are not simply mirror images of each other. Writes Patriot: “ERA+ does not tell you that a pitcher’s ERA was X% less or more than the league’s ERA. It tells you that the league’s ERA was X% less or more than the pitcher’s ERA.”
Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in full release of ZiPS. Finally, Szymborski will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on depth chart to produce projected team WAR.
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~9 WAR out of Stroman, Dickey and Buerhle seems overly optimistic. Dickey has only reached 3 WAR once in his career and Stroman’s track record is only 20 starts. Buerhle could go either way.
Not saying its crazy, but I would take the under.
take any 3 starting pitchers, one in his 40’s, one over 35…
taking the under on any combined WAR is probably not a trip on the wild side, given probability injury takes down at least 1.
I get your point, though.
Dickey and Buerhle are two of the rare guys where you can kind of throw FIP (and therefore fWAR) out the window. Buerhle has proven over thousands of innings that he consistently beats FIP, his BABIP and LOB are lower than typical. Dickey, as a knuckler, has a low BABIP ever since adopting the knuckleball as his primary pitch. Anything FIP based undervalues those two.
9 WAR out of the three mite be a smidge optimistic, but probably more reasonably than the Steamer projection that has Dickey and Buerhle combining for about 3 WAR.
But according to Dave Cameron no pitcher can consistently beat their FIP!
Cite Dave Cameron saying “no pitcher can consistently beat their FIP”. Any reply that fails to produce that citation will be understood as an admission that you were lying.
Cameron says, rightly I think, that don’t assume a pitcher can beat his FIP until there’s a lot of innings of evidence. When a guy has a year or two of beating FIP, be skeptical. But he acknowledges that there is evidence that some pitchers do outperform FIP. They’re just few and far between, and it takes years to truly identify them.
When a guy (buerhle) has 14 years of beating his FIP, that’s solid. And knucklers as a species are acknowledged to usually beat FIP, due to their lower BABIP.
Not true at all, the knuckleball caveat (weaker contact) has been well accepted by the Sabr community,.
Jered Weaver says “hi.”
not that optimistic. the three combined for 8.9war last year, and that’s with stro in the minors for 1/3 of the season.
8.9war from the three last year, with stroman in the minors for 1/3 of the year.
forecasting the same total value seems pretty reasonable when forecasting all 3 as fulltime guys with a bit of regression overallm