2017 ZiPS Projections – New York Mets
After having typically appeared in the very famous pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have been released at FanGraphs the past few years. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the New York Mets. Szymborski can be found at ESPN and on Twitter at @DSzymborski.
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Batters
Only four Mets field players recorded a WAR figure of 2.0 or greater in 2016. According to Dan Szymborski’s computer, six different Mets might be expected to reach that mark in 2017. Yoenis Cespedes (596 PA, 4.1 zWAR) receives the club’s top projection by a full win — and three of the club’s top-four forecasts overall belong to outfielders. One of those additional outfielders is Curtis Granderson (538, 2.3). The other isn’t presumptive right-field starter Jay Bruce (583, 1.2) but rather Michael Conforto (558, 3.0). Conforto, in other words, appears to be a markedly superior option.
ZiPS doesn’t account for the nature of David Wright’s (331, 1.1) injury over the past couple seasons, only that he’s missed time because of it. Following two abbreviated seasons, Wright unsurprisingly earns a muted playing-time projection for 2017. The rate numbers are predictably modest relative to Wright’s best seasons. He still appears to profile as an average player, though, when he’s on the field.
Pitchers
The projections for the club’s most likely group of five starters don’t seem to be the sort one might expect from a team whose rotation produced the highest WAR figure in the majors last season. ZiPS has already called for the five likely members of the Nationals’ rotation to produce about 19 wins collectively; of the Cubs’ rotation, roughly 16 wins. Here: just 13. The principal causes appear to be both (a) general regression (which is probably inevitable for a team that finishes first in anything) and (b) the departure of Bartolo Colon.
With regard to the bullpen, it features something not unlike a relief ace in Jeurys Familia (76.0 IP, 75 ERA-, 1.0 zWAR), who receives not only the top WAR projection among the club’s relievers, but also the best adjusted ERA. Right-hander Addison Reed (69.1, 79, 0.8) also earns strong marks by both measures.
Bench/Prospects
The Mets appear to feature a rather large collection of competent role players. Juan Lagares (364 PA, 1.5 zWAR) is coupled with Jay Bruce in the depth-chart graphic below, but is more likely to actually appear in center when he plays, moving Granderson over to right. He receives a +8 fielding-runs mark in center. Outfielder Brandon Nimmo (526, 1.8) earns the top wins projection among the club’s rookie-eligible players. The forecast for shortstop Gavin Cecchini (531, 1.6) is also promising.
Robert Gsellman (155.0 IP, 1.4 zWAR) earns the top wins projection among those pitchers not included in the depth-chart graphic below. His cumulative forecast is more promising than Zack Wheeler’s (97.0, 0.8), although the run-prevention numbers on a per-inning basis are nearly identical.
Depth Chart
Below is a rough depth chart for the present incarnation of the Mets, with rounded projected WAR totals for each player. For caveats regarding WAR values see disclaimer at bottom of post. Click to enlarge image.
Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site and author’s own haphazard reasoning.
| Player | B | Age | PO | PA | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yoenis Cespedes | R | 31 | LF | 596 | 83 | 145 | 29 | 4 | 30 | 95 | 5 | 3 |
| Neil Walker | B | 31 | 2B | 521 | 65 | 123 | 20 | 2 | 20 | 65 | 3 | 1 |
| Michael Conforto | L | 24 | LF | 558 | 77 | 125 | 29 | 3 | 24 | 80 | 2 | 3 |
| Curtis Granderson | L | 36 | CF | 538 | 75 | 111 | 22 | 3 | 21 | 57 | 6 | 3 |
| Asdrubal Cabrera | B | 31 | SS | 558 | 68 | 132 | 29 | 3 | 17 | 63 | 6 | 2 |
| Lucas Duda | L | 31 | 1B | 382 | 50 | 79 | 17 | 0 | 20 | 62 | 1 | 1 |
| Brandon Nimmo | L | 24 | CF | 526 | 66 | 117 | 18 | 6 | 11 | 51 | 6 | 6 |
| Kevin Plawecki | R | 26 | C | 399 | 39 | 89 | 17 | 1 | 7 | 42 | 0 | 0 |
| Gavin Cecchini | R | 23 | SS | 531 | 65 | 128 | 24 | 3 | 9 | 53 | 3 | 2 |
| Travis d’Arnaud | R | 28 | C | 363 | 43 | 82 | 16 | 1 | 10 | 36 | 1 | 0 |
| Juan Lagares | R | 28 | CF | 364 | 39 | 85 | 16 | 3 | 5 | 30 | 7 | 3 |
| Wilmer Flores | R | 25 | SS | 477 | 56 | 116 | 21 | 2 | 15 | 63 | 1 | 1 |
| T.J. Rivera | R | 28 | 3B | 532 | 57 | 130 | 23 | 2 | 8 | 53 | 3 | 2 |
| Jose Reyes | B | 34 | SS | 456 | 59 | 112 | 19 | 3 | 9 | 39 | 16 | 4 |
| Jay Bruce | L | 30 | RF | 583 | 72 | 129 | 28 | 4 | 22 | 89 | 6 | 3 |
| David Wright | R | 34 | 3B | 331 | 38 | 72 | 13 | 1 | 8 | 33 | 4 | 2 |
| Tomas Nido | R | 23 | C | 374 | 41 | 80 | 18 | 2 | 9 | 43 | 1 | 1 |
| Rene Rivera | R | 33 | C | 277 | 21 | 57 | 11 | 0 | 6 | 33 | 0 | 0 |
| Travis Taijeron | R | 28 | RF | 469 | 59 | 83 | 23 | 2 | 17 | 59 | 1 | 2 |
| Amed Rosario | R | 21 | SS | 513 | 49 | 110 | 20 | 7 | 5 | 44 | 12 | 6 |
| Matt Reynolds | R | 26 | SS | 469 | 51 | 96 | 20 | 3 | 6 | 42 | 9 | 3 |
| Johnny Monell | L | 31 | C | 375 | 44 | 82 | 15 | 1 | 7 | 42 | 3 | 1 |
| Dominic Smith | L | 22 | 1B | 553 | 63 | 132 | 27 | 1 | 13 | 69 | 1 | 1 |
| Eric Campbell | R | 30 | 1B | 387 | 47 | 79 | 14 | 2 | 7 | 39 | 7 | 3 |
| Kelly Johnson | L | 35 | 2B | 310 | 31 | 68 | 12 | 1 | 11 | 38 | 3 | 1 |
| Roger Bernadina | L | 33 | CF | 340 | 34 | 63 | 13 | 2 | 7 | 32 | 9 | 3 |
| Ty Kelly | B | 28 | 2B | 438 | 50 | 92 | 16 | 2 | 6 | 39 | 4 | 4 |
| Victor Cruzado | B | 25 | LF | 390 | 41 | 75 | 12 | 3 | 7 | 35 | 3 | 5 |
| Xorge Carrillo | R | 28 | C | 295 | 31 | 58 | 11 | 0 | 5 | 26 | 0 | 1 |
| Phillip Evans | R | 24 | SS | 419 | 40 | 93 | 20 | 1 | 5 | 37 | 1 | 1 |
| Niuman Romero | B | 32 | SS | 365 | 34 | 76 | 14 | 1 | 2 | 22 | 2 | 3 |
| Luis Guillorme | L | 22 | SS | 537 | 48 | 112 | 17 | 2 | 1 | 35 | 7 | 5 |
| Raywilly Gomez | B | 27 | C | 185 | 17 | 42 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 12 | 1 | 0 |
| Marc Krauss | L | 29 | 1B | 337 | 37 | 61 | 12 | 1 | 11 | 37 | 2 | 1 |
| L.J. Mazzilli | R | 26 | 2B | 461 | 47 | 96 | 18 | 3 | 6 | 40 | 5 | 3 |
| Jhoan Urena | B | 22 | 3B | 403 | 42 | 82 | 17 | 3 | 8 | 42 | 1 | 1 |
| David Thompson | R | 23 | 3B | 418 | 46 | 89 | 21 | 2 | 9 | 47 | 4 | 0 |
| Matt Oberste | R | 25 | 1B | 457 | 48 | 99 | 19 | 3 | 9 | 47 | 1 | 2 |
| Wuilmer Becerra | R | 22 | RF | 400 | 40 | 87 | 18 | 2 | 7 | 40 | 8 | 4 |
| Champ Stuart | R | 24 | CF | 446 | 40 | 63 | 8 | 4 | 7 | 29 | 18 | 4 |
***
| Player | PA | BB% | K% | ISO | BABIP | AVG | OBP | SLG | wOBA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yoenis Cespedes | 596 | 6.5% | 21.0% | .233 | .290 | .266 | .317 | .498 | .341 |
| Neil Walker | 521 | 8.1% | 18.0% | .179 | .288 | .263 | .329 | .442 | .330 |
| Michael Conforto | 558 | 9.0% | 22.2% | .215 | .285 | .251 | .324 | .466 | .336 |
| Curtis Granderson | 538 | 11.3% | 21.7% | .195 | .270 | .238 | .331 | .433 | .330 |
| Asdrubal Cabrera | 558 | 6.8% | 18.3% | .169 | .292 | .259 | .316 | .428 | .320 |
| Lucas Duda | 382 | 11.8% | 24.9% | .235 | .274 | .242 | .343 | .477 | .344 |
| Brandon Nimmo | 526 | 9.5% | 23.6% | .134 | .316 | .249 | .328 | .384 | .316 |
| Kevin Plawecki | 399 | 6.3% | 16.5% | .110 | .279 | .245 | .302 | .354 | .284 |
| Gavin Cecchini | 531 | 7.2% | 13.7% | .117 | .292 | .262 | .316 | .378 | .305 |
| Travis d’Arnaud | 363 | 7.4% | 18.2% | .145 | .281 | .248 | .309 | .393 | .302 |
| Juan Lagares | 364 | 4.4% | 19.5% | .109 | .302 | .251 | .291 | .361 | .284 |
| Wilmer Flores | 477 | 5.2% | 14.5% | .158 | .278 | .262 | .303 | .420 | .307 |
| T.J. Rivera | 532 | 3.9% | 16.4% | .103 | .300 | .262 | .299 | .364 | .288 |
| Jose Reyes | 456 | 6.8% | 12.9% | .124 | .291 | .267 | .316 | .391 | .314 |
| Jay Bruce | 583 | 8.1% | 22.8% | .193 | .282 | .244 | .305 | .437 | .313 |
| David Wright | 331 | 11.2% | 23.9% | .134 | .311 | .247 | .332 | .380 | .315 |
| Tomas Nido | 374 | 3.5% | 21.7% | .138 | .264 | .225 | .254 | .362 | .266 |
| Rene Rivera | 277 | 6.1% | 23.5% | .115 | .279 | .226 | .281 | .341 | .265 |
| Travis Taijeron | 469 | 10.0% | 38.8% | .190 | .307 | .202 | .294 | .393 | .300 |
| Amed Rosario | 513 | 5.5% | 23.8% | .103 | .297 | .230 | .275 | .333 | .273 |
| Matt Reynolds | 469 | 6.2% | 25.4% | .102 | .291 | .223 | .276 | .326 | .270 |
| Johnny Monell | 375 | 6.7% | 20.8% | .110 | .285 | .237 | .291 | .347 | .280 |
| Dominic Smith | 553 | 6.3% | 18.6% | .133 | .298 | .258 | .306 | .391 | .300 |
| Eric Campbell | 387 | 10.3% | 20.2% | .116 | .282 | .234 | .324 | .350 | .304 |
| Kelly Johnson | 310 | 7.4% | 21.9% | .166 | .277 | .240 | .300 | .406 | .306 |
| Roger Bernadina | 340 | 8.8% | 28.8% | .126 | .283 | .209 | .288 | .334 | .280 |
| Ty Kelly | 438 | 10.7% | 17.4% | .099 | .282 | .240 | .323 | .339 | .299 |
| Victor Cruzado | 390 | 9.2% | 26.7% | .111 | .282 | .214 | .288 | .326 | .276 |
| Xorge Carrillo | 295 | 5.8% | 20.7% | .097 | .259 | .216 | .276 | .312 | .261 |
| Phillip Evans | 419 | 5.5% | 20.8% | .095 | .292 | .238 | .282 | .332 | .270 |
| Niuman Romero | 365 | 8.5% | 17.8% | .067 | .280 | .232 | .298 | .299 | .268 |
| Luis Guillorme | 537 | 6.7% | 17.7% | .049 | .283 | .231 | .285 | .280 | .255 |
| Raywilly Gomez | 185 | 8.1% | 13.5% | .060 | .289 | .251 | .315 | .311 | .280 |
| Marc Krauss | 337 | 11.0% | 29.4% | .159 | .266 | .206 | .297 | .365 | .292 |
| L.J. Mazzilli | 461 | 6.9% | 21.0% | .099 | .279 | .227 | .283 | .326 | .272 |
| Jhoan Urena | 403 | 6.5% | 24.1% | .125 | .273 | .219 | .270 | .344 | .270 |
| David Thompson | 418 | 4.3% | 24.9% | .134 | .286 | .230 | .271 | .364 | .275 |
| Matt Oberste | 457 | 5.5% | 23.6% | .123 | .288 | .233 | .278 | .356 | .276 |
| Wuilmer Becerra | 400 | 4.3% | 26.3% | .113 | .299 | .230 | .266 | .343 | .272 |
| Champ Stuart | 446 | 7.2% | 47.3% | .092 | .298 | .156 | .224 | .248 | .222 |
***
| Player | PA | RC/27 | OPS+ | Def | zWAR | No.1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yoenis Cespedes | 596 | 5.8 | 120 | 9 | 4.1 | Willie Horton |
| Neil Walker | 521 | 5.4 | 110 | -1 | 3.0 | Ken McMullen |
| Michael Conforto | 558 | 5.4 | 114 | 3 | 3.0 | Ryan Ludwick |
| Curtis Granderson | 538 | 5.1 | 108 | -7 | 2.3 | Steve Finley |
| Asdrubal Cabrera | 558 | 5.0 | 103 | -9 | 2.3 | Hector Lopez |
| Lucas Duda | 382 | 5.8 | 123 | 1 | 2.0 | Bob Hamelin |
| Brandon Nimmo | 526 | 4.4 | 95 | -3 | 1.8 | Rich Becker |
| Kevin Plawecki | 399 | 3.8 | 80 | 1 | 1.6 | Jason Jaramillo |
| Gavin Cecchini | 531 | 4.3 | 90 | -6 | 1.6 | Aaron Hill |
| Travis d’Arnaud | 363 | 4.4 | 92 | -4 | 1.5 | Randy Hundley |
| Juan Lagares | 364 | 3.8 | 78 | 8 | 1.5 | Juan Beniquez |
| Wilmer Flores | 477 | 4.6 | 96 | -8 | 1.4 | Mike Lowell |
| T.J. Rivera | 532 | 4.0 | 81 | 2 | 1.4 | Scott Livingstone |
| Jose Reyes | 456 | 4.8 | 93 | -9 | 1.3 | Joe Stripp |
| Jay Bruce | 583 | 4.8 | 101 | -5 | 1.2 | Garrett Jones |
| David Wright | 331 | 4.5 | 96 | -3 | 1.1 | Billy Johnson |
| Tomas Nido | 374 | 3.2 | 67 | 3 | 1.0 | Walt McKeel |
| Rene Rivera | 277 | 3.3 | 70 | 3 | 0.9 | Nelson Santovenia |
| Travis Taijeron | 469 | 3.8 | 87 | 2 | 0.9 | Wes Clements |
| Amed Rosario | 513 | 3.2 | 67 | 2 | 0.7 | Carlos Garcia |
| Matt Reynolds | 469 | 3.2 | 65 | 2 | 0.7 | Travis Dawkins |
| Johnny Monell | 375 | 3.6 | 75 | -4 | 0.7 | Ed Ott |
| Dominic Smith | 553 | 4.3 | 90 | 2 | 0.7 | Billy Butler |
| Eric Campbell | 387 | 4.0 | 86 | 2 | 0.6 | Chris Sheff |
| Kelly Johnson | 310 | 4.4 | 92 | -6 | 0.5 | Travis Fryman |
| Roger Bernadina | 340 | 3.4 | 71 | 1 | 0.5 | Dann Howitt |
| Ty Kelly | 438 | 3.8 | 83 | -6 | 0.5 | Todd Crosby |
| Victor Cruzado | 390 | 3.0 | 69 | 8 | 0.4 | Ntema Ndungidi |
| Xorge Carrillo | 295 | 2.9 | 62 | 0 | 0.3 | Pedro Grifol |
| Phillip Evans | 419 | 3.3 | 69 | -2 | 0.3 | Tim Naehring |
| Niuman Romero | 365 | 3.0 | 65 | -1 | 0.2 | Kevin Baez |
| Luis Guillorme | 537 | 2.7 | 57 | 3 | 0.2 | Mike Bordick |
| Raywilly Gomez | 185 | 3.6 | 74 | -4 | 0.1 | Michel Hernandez |
| Marc Krauss | 337 | 3.7 | 81 | 1 | 0.1 | Jay Gainer |
| L.J. Mazzilli | 461 | 3.2 | 67 | -1 | 0.0 | Doug Saunders |
| Jhoan Urena | 403 | 3.2 | 68 | -2 | 0.0 | Scott White |
| David Thompson | 418 | 3.6 | 73 | -5 | -0.1 | Brant Ust |
| Matt Oberste | 457 | 3.4 | 73 | -1 | -0.8 | Scott Hodges |
| Wuilmer Becerra | 400 | 3.2 | 66 | -3 | -0.9 | Mauricio Nunez |
| Champ Stuart | 446 | 2.0 | 30 | -3 | -2.1 | Travis Ezi |
***
| Player | T | Age | G | GS | IP | K | BB | HR | H | R | ER |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Noah Syndergaard | R | 24 | 32 | 31 | 188.7 | 224 | 43 | 18 | 159 | 65 | 61 |
| Jacob deGrom | R | 29 | 26 | 26 | 163.0 | 162 | 41 | 16 | 146 | 64 | 60 |
| Steven Matz | L | 26 | 24 | 24 | 138.0 | 141 | 39 | 15 | 126 | 57 | 53 |
| Matt Harvey | R | 28 | 23 | 23 | 141.0 | 112 | 45 | 13 | 127 | 64 | 60 |
| Robert Gsellman | R | 23 | 28 | 28 | 155.0 | 124 | 47 | 18 | 153 | 76 | 71 |
| Jeurys Familia | R | 27 | 76 | 0 | 76.0 | 80 | 28 | 6 | 63 | 27 | 25 |
| Addison Reed | R | 28 | 72 | 0 | 69.3 | 77 | 17 | 7 | 60 | 26 | 24 |
| Zack Wheeler | R | 27 | 17 | 17 | 97.0 | 85 | 42 | 11 | 95 | 48 | 45 |
| Hansel Robles | R | 26 | 66 | 0 | 69.7 | 80 | 26 | 8 | 57 | 29 | 27 |
| Sean Gilmartin | L | 27 | 35 | 15 | 106.7 | 89 | 33 | 13 | 106 | 56 | 52 |
| Josh Smoker | L | 28 | 60 | 0 | 65.7 | 83 | 24 | 8 | 55 | 28 | 26 |
| Seth Lugo | R | 27 | 31 | 22 | 131.7 | 104 | 39 | 20 | 133 | 72 | 67 |
| Fernando Salas | R | 32 | 68 | 0 | 64.0 | 65 | 16 | 8 | 57 | 29 | 27 |
| Jerry Blevins | L | 33 | 48 | 0 | 32.3 | 38 | 12 | 3 | 27 | 14 | 13 |
| Corey Taylor | R | 24 | 49 | 0 | 58.3 | 41 | 19 | 5 | 58 | 27 | 25 |
| Jon Niese | L | 30 | 30 | 23 | 143.3 | 102 | 47 | 21 | 151 | 80 | 75 |
| Josh Edgin | L | 30 | 51 | 0 | 37.7 | 39 | 19 | 4 | 33 | 17 | 16 |
| Ben Rowen | R | 28 | 48 | 0 | 59.7 | 41 | 15 | 5 | 60 | 28 | 26 |
| Chasen Bradford | R | 27 | 56 | 0 | 70.7 | 53 | 15 | 7 | 72 | 33 | 31 |
| Paul Sewald | R | 27 | 51 | 0 | 59.0 | 66 | 20 | 8 | 52 | 28 | 26 |
| Kevin McGowan | R | 25 | 37 | 8 | 87.0 | 68 | 34 | 10 | 87 | 47 | 44 |
| Jeff Walters | R | 29 | 26 | 0 | 26.3 | 21 | 8 | 3 | 26 | 14 | 13 |
| Erik Goeddel | R | 28 | 55 | 0 | 61.3 | 61 | 27 | 7 | 55 | 31 | 29 |
| David Roseboom | L | 25 | 66 | 0 | 66.3 | 59 | 29 | 8 | 63 | 34 | 32 |
| Zack Thornton | R | 29 | 48 | 0 | 54.7 | 44 | 20 | 6 | 54 | 29 | 27 |
| Chris Flexen | R | 22 | 21 | 19 | 100.0 | 68 | 46 | 13 | 105 | 60 | 56 |
| Luis Mateo | R | 27 | 40 | 0 | 49.7 | 35 | 17 | 6 | 52 | 27 | 25 |
| Ricky Knapp | R | 25 | 24 | 20 | 130.0 | 83 | 41 | 18 | 142 | 77 | 72 |
| Duane Below | L | 31 | 18 | 15 | 99.7 | 66 | 23 | 18 | 110 | 60 | 56 |
| Logan Taylor | R | 25 | 53 | 0 | 69.3 | 73 | 38 | 8 | 63 | 36 | 34 |
| Tim Peterson | R | 26 | 37 | 0 | 48.7 | 54 | 18 | 8 | 45 | 27 | 25 |
| Adam Wilk | L | 29 | 21 | 19 | 113.0 | 79 | 31 | 19 | 123 | 68 | 64 |
| Jim Henderson | R | 34 | 40 | 0 | 35.7 | 38 | 17 | 6 | 35 | 21 | 20 |
| Gabriel Ynoa | R | 24 | 30 | 25 | 154.0 | 87 | 41 | 23 | 172 | 92 | 86 |
| Rafael Montero | R | 26 | 26 | 21 | 108.3 | 94 | 52 | 16 | 109 | 66 | 62 |
| Tyler Pill | R | 27 | 24 | 23 | 132.0 | 96 | 42 | 20 | 140 | 80 | 75 |
| Cory Burns | R | 29 | 40 | 0 | 63.0 | 46 | 20 | 9 | 65 | 35 | 33 |
| Chase Huchingson | L | 28 | 35 | 0 | 39.3 | 36 | 30 | 5 | 37 | 26 | 24 |
| Beck Wheeler | R | 28 | 43 | 0 | 52.7 | 59 | 34 | 8 | 48 | 32 | 30 |
| Darin Gorski | L | 29 | 19 | 17 | 91.3 | 73 | 41 | 17 | 96 | 60 | 56 |
| Josh Zeid | R | 30 | 28 | 8 | 68.0 | 56 | 37 | 12 | 71 | 46 | 43 |
| Rainy Lara | R | 26 | 23 | 22 | 113.0 | 69 | 41 | 22 | 129 | 80 | 75 |
***
| Player | IP | TBF | K% | BB% | BABIP | ERA | FIP | ERA- | FIP- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Noah Syndergaard | 188.7 | 768 | 29.2% | 5.6% | .294 | 2.91 | 2.75 | 73 | 66 |
| Jacob deGrom | 163.0 | 676 | 24.0% | 6.1% | .286 | 3.31 | 3.27 | 84 | 78 |
| Steven Matz | 138.0 | 579 | 24.4% | 6.7% | .293 | 3.46 | 3.47 | 87 | 83 |
| Matt Harvey | 141.0 | 595 | 18.8% | 7.6% | .271 | 3.83 | 3.80 | 97 | 91 |
| Robert Gsellman | 155.0 | 665 | 18.6% | 7.1% | .287 | 4.12 | 4.08 | 104 | 98 |
| Jeurys Familia | 76.0 | 319 | 25.1% | 8.8% | .281 | 2.96 | 3.13 | 75 | 75 |
| Addison Reed | 69.3 | 285 | 27.0% | 6.0% | .290 | 3.12 | 2.88 | 79 | 69 |
| Zack Wheeler | 97.0 | 428 | 19.9% | 9.8% | .295 | 4.18 | 4.33 | 105 | 104 |
| Hansel Robles | 69.7 | 292 | 27.4% | 8.9% | .278 | 3.49 | 3.50 | 88 | 84 |
| Sean Gilmartin | 106.7 | 459 | 19.4% | 7.2% | .292 | 4.39 | 4.11 | 111 | 99 |
| Josh Smoker | 65.7 | 276 | 30.1% | 8.7% | .297 | 3.56 | 3.38 | 90 | 81 |
| Seth Lugo | 131.7 | 567 | 18.3% | 6.9% | .285 | 4.58 | 4.58 | 116 | 110 |
| Fernando Salas | 64.0 | 265 | 24.5% | 6.0% | .280 | 3.80 | 3.44 | 96 | 82 |
| Jerry Blevins | 32.3 | 136 | 27.9% | 8.8% | .293 | 3.62 | 2.97 | 91 | 71 |
| Corey Taylor | 58.3 | 252 | 16.3% | 7.5% | .288 | 3.86 | 3.92 | 97 | 94 |
| Jon Niese | 143.3 | 628 | 16.2% | 7.5% | .287 | 4.71 | 4.71 | 119 | 113 |
| Josh Edgin | 37.7 | 165 | 23.6% | 11.5% | .284 | 3.82 | 4.09 | 96 | 98 |
| Ben Rowen | 59.7 | 254 | 16.1% | 5.9% | .289 | 3.92 | 3.66 | 99 | 88 |
| Chasen Bradford | 70.7 | 299 | 17.7% | 5.0% | .294 | 3.95 | 3.70 | 100 | 89 |
| Paul Sewald | 59.0 | 249 | 26.5% | 8.0% | .289 | 3.97 | 3.78 | 100 | 91 |
| Kevin McGowan | 87.0 | 382 | 17.8% | 8.9% | .291 | 4.55 | 4.46 | 115 | 107 |
| Jeff Walters | 26.3 | 113 | 18.6% | 7.1% | .288 | 4.44 | 4.10 | 112 | 98 |
| Erik Goeddel | 61.3 | 266 | 22.9% | 10.2% | .284 | 4.26 | 4.00 | 107 | 96 |
| David Roseboom | 66.3 | 291 | 20.3% | 10.0% | .286 | 4.34 | 4.33 | 110 | 104 |
| Zack Thornton | 54.7 | 238 | 18.5% | 8.4% | .291 | 4.45 | 4.10 | 112 | 98 |
| Chris Flexen | 100.0 | 451 | 15.1% | 10.2% | .289 | 5.04 | 5.08 | 127 | 122 |
| Luis Mateo | 49.7 | 218 | 16.1% | 7.8% | .291 | 4.53 | 4.44 | 114 | 106 |
| Ricky Knapp | 130.0 | 573 | 14.5% | 7.2% | .293 | 4.98 | 4.84 | 126 | 116 |
| Duane Below | 99.7 | 432 | 15.3% | 5.3% | .288 | 5.06 | 5.05 | 128 | 121 |
| Logan Taylor | 69.3 | 309 | 23.6% | 12.3% | .296 | 4.41 | 4.40 | 111 | 105 |
| Tim Peterson | 48.7 | 209 | 25.8% | 8.6% | .294 | 4.62 | 4.40 | 117 | 105 |
| Adam Wilk | 113.0 | 493 | 16.0% | 6.3% | .291 | 5.10 | 4.93 | 129 | 118 |
| Jim Henderson | 35.7 | 159 | 23.9% | 10.7% | .299 | 5.05 | 4.67 | 127 | 112 |
| Gabriel Ynoa | 154.0 | 675 | 12.9% | 6.1% | .289 | 5.03 | 4.95 | 127 | 119 |
| Rafael Montero | 108.3 | 486 | 19.3% | 10.7% | .291 | 5.15 | 4.84 | 130 | 116 |
| Tyler Pill | 132.0 | 578 | 16.6% | 7.3% | .291 | 5.11 | 4.82 | 129 | 115 |
| Cory Burns | 63.0 | 274 | 16.8% | 7.3% | .287 | 4.71 | 4.63 | 119 | 111 |
| Chase Huchingson | 39.3 | 185 | 19.5% | 16.2% | .288 | 5.49 | 5.45 | 139 | 131 |
| Beck Wheeler | 52.7 | 240 | 24.6% | 14.2% | .294 | 5.13 | 4.97 | 129 | 119 |
| Darin Gorski | 91.3 | 411 | 17.8% | 10.0% | .287 | 5.52 | 5.52 | 139 | 132 |
| Josh Zeid | 68.0 | 312 | 17.9% | 11.9% | .291 | 5.69 | 5.55 | 144 | 133 |
| Rainy Lara | 113.0 | 509 | 13.6% | 8.1% | .288 | 5.97 | 5.72 | 151 | 137 |
***
| Player | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | ERA+ | zWAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Noah Syndergaard | 188.7 | 10.69 | 2.05 | 0.86 | 129 | 4.7 | Dwight Gooden |
| Jacob deGrom | 163.0 | 8.94 | 2.26 | 0.88 | 113 | 3.2 | Charles Nagy |
| Steven Matz | 138.0 | 9.20 | 2.54 | 0.98 | 108 | 2.4 | Steve Avery |
| Matt Harvey | 141.0 | 7.15 | 2.87 | 0.83 | 98 | 1.8 | Dick Ruthven |
| Robert Gsellman | 155.0 | 7.20 | 2.73 | 1.05 | 91 | 1.4 | Steve Fireovid |
| Jeurys Familia | 76.0 | 9.47 | 3.32 | 0.71 | 127 | 1.0 | Hector Carrasco |
| Addison Reed | 69.3 | 10.00 | 2.21 | 0.91 | 120 | 0.8 | Dave Schmidt |
| Zack Wheeler | 97.0 | 7.89 | 3.90 | 1.02 | 90 | 0.8 | Tim Leary |
| Hansel Robles | 69.7 | 10.33 | 3.36 | 1.03 | 107 | 0.5 | Bobby Castillo |
| Sean Gilmartin | 106.7 | 7.51 | 2.78 | 1.10 | 85 | 0.4 | Jeff Musselman |
| Josh Smoker | 65.7 | 11.38 | 3.29 | 1.10 | 105 | 0.4 | John Grabow |
| Seth Lugo | 131.7 | 7.11 | 2.67 | 1.37 | 82 | 0.3 | Ryan Franklin |
| Fernando Salas | 64.0 | 9.14 | 2.25 | 1.13 | 99 | 0.2 | Rusty Meacham |
| Jerry Blevins | 32.3 | 10.58 | 3.34 | 0.84 | 104 | 0.2 | Lance Painter |
| Corey Taylor | 58.3 | 6.33 | 2.93 | 0.77 | 97 | 0.1 | Ehren Wassermann |
| Jon Niese | 143.3 | 6.40 | 2.95 | 1.32 | 80 | 0.1 | Huck Flener |
| Josh Edgin | 37.7 | 9.32 | 4.54 | 0.96 | 98 | 0.1 | Arnold Earley |
| Ben Rowen | 59.7 | 6.18 | 2.26 | 0.75 | 96 | 0.1 | Casey Cox |
| Chasen Bradford | 70.7 | 6.75 | 1.91 | 0.89 | 95 | 0.0 | John Doherty |
| Paul Sewald | 59.0 | 10.07 | 3.05 | 1.22 | 94 | 0.0 | Gene Harris |
| Kevin McGowan | 87.0 | 7.03 | 3.52 | 1.03 | 82 | -0.1 | Luis Estrella |
| Jeff Walters | 26.3 | 7.18 | 2.73 | 1.03 | 84 | -0.2 | Gary Ross |
| Erik Goeddel | 61.3 | 8.95 | 3.96 | 1.03 | 88 | -0.2 | Steve Wapnick |
| David Roseboom | 66.3 | 8.01 | 3.93 | 1.09 | 86 | -0.3 | Chad Brown |
| Zack Thornton | 54.7 | 7.24 | 3.29 | 0.99 | 84 | -0.3 | Cary Hiles |
| Chris Flexen | 100.0 | 6.12 | 4.14 | 1.17 | 74 | -0.3 | Jeff Fulchino |
| Luis Mateo | 49.7 | 6.34 | 3.08 | 1.09 | 83 | -0.4 | Bill McAfee |
| Ricky Knapp | 130.0 | 5.75 | 2.84 | 1.25 | 75 | -0.4 | Nick Blackburn |
| Duane Below | 99.7 | 5.96 | 2.08 | 1.63 | 74 | -0.4 | Brian Tollberg |
| Logan Taylor | 69.3 | 9.48 | 4.93 | 1.04 | 85 | -0.4 | Eddy Rodriguez |
| Tim Peterson | 48.7 | 9.99 | 3.33 | 1.48 | 81 | -0.4 | Jim Miller |
| Adam Wilk | 113.0 | 6.29 | 2.47 | 1.51 | 74 | -0.5 | Dave Gassner |
| Jim Henderson | 35.7 | 9.59 | 4.29 | 1.51 | 74 | -0.5 | Archie Corbin |
| Gabriel Ynoa | 154.0 | 5.08 | 2.40 | 1.34 | 75 | -0.5 | Chris Rauth |
| Rafael Montero | 108.3 | 7.81 | 4.32 | 1.33 | 73 | -0.5 | Carl Dale |
| Tyler Pill | 132.0 | 6.55 | 2.86 | 1.36 | 73 | -0.6 | John Lackey |
| Cory Burns | 63.0 | 6.57 | 2.86 | 1.29 | 79 | -0.6 | Jason Karnuth |
| Chase Huchingson | 39.3 | 8.24 | 6.86 | 1.14 | 68 | -0.8 | Tom Doyle |
| Beck Wheeler | 52.7 | 10.08 | 5.81 | 1.37 | 73 | -0.8 | Calvin Jones |
| Darin Gorski | 91.3 | 7.19 | 4.04 | 1.68 | 68 | -0.9 | Dan Smith |
| Josh Zeid | 68.0 | 7.41 | 4.90 | 1.59 | 66 | -1.0 | Chris Hook |
| Rainy Lara | 113.0 | 5.50 | 3.27 | 1.75 | 63 | -1.8 | Scott Bakkum |
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Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2017. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.
Players are listed with their most recent teams unless Dan has made a mistake. This is very possible as a lot of minor-league signings are generally unreported in the offseason.
ZiPS is projecting based on the AL having a 4.05 ERA and the NL having a 3.97 ERA.
Players that are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information and a computer isn’t what should be projecting the injury status of, for example, a pitcher with Tommy John surgery.
Regarding ERA+ vs. ERA- (and FIP+ vs. FIP-) and the differences therein: as Patriot notes here, they are not simply mirror images of each other. Writes Patriot: “ERA+ does not tell you that a pitcher’s ERA was X% less or more than the league’s ERA. It tells you that the league’s ERA was X% less or more than the pitcher’s ERA.”
Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in full release of ZiPS. Finally, Szymborski will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on depth chart to produce projected team WAR.
Carson Cistulli has published a book of aphorisms called Spirited Ejaculations of a New Enthusiast.

I’m not the biggest Zack Wheeler fan in the world but 4.18 ERA and 4.33 FIP would both be career-worst marks for him by a good margin. He’s a 3.50 ERA 3.77 FIP guy in his career. I can understand being bearish on his playing time but does ZiPS also project guys who have missed significant time to come back much worse? I suppose that makes sense, but still.
Command takes a year or so to come back… I don’t follow him closely, but do the rest of his peripherals look normal, and the command is the difference?
He has thrown 1 IP in two years, its hard for a projection system to not discount for that kind of serious injury and delayed recovery. Its probably a hedge between him coming back Ok and never coming back at all.
I think this is the reason…it’s the distinction between ZiPS being a “projection” not a “prediction”
Kind of confused how you single out wheeler who hasn’t pitched in 2 years when Harvey also projects to be the worst of his career. Just saying.
“Only four Mets field players recorded a WAR figure of 2.0 or greater in 2017.”
Don’t you mean 2016?
Yes! Duly edited! Thank you!
Leave it up to Carson to come up with a great new pitching
stat: “per-inning bases”.
(I am not the spelling police; I just love it when a typo is hilarious.)
“I am not the spelling police.”
Isn’t that precisely what a member of the spelling police would say? I refuse to be tricked, internet user TampaRay!
(Also: typo edited. Thanks.)
It’s spelling entrapment, I tell you!
Read him his Wrights.
1. The rotation is by no means bad, but at the same time, I feel like anyone a few years ago who thought the Mets were going to be perpetual contenders because of their young, deep, rotation must find this disappointing. I will refrain from rehashing here the dangers of building a team around young flamethrowers.
2. I don’t follow the Mets so I don’t really know the story, but hasn’t there been an issue with the team jerking Conforto around between the majors and the minors, despite the fact he is clearly right now one of their better position players? If so, was there some issue between Collins and the FO where the former was refusing to play him, or only platooning him? Sorry, there is a vague jumble of words to this effect in my head and I don’t know if it is correct.
Openly Biased Mets fan:
1. 2015 – WS loss
2016 – WC loss
2017 – ??? but certainly NL WC contender/2nd tier NL team
So as far as “perpetual contender” goes this is one of the best runs in franchise history. We’ll take it! Although, you can make an argument Cespedes and the resurgent offense carried the Mets to the WS in 2015. 2016 was a war of attrition in regards to the rotation. Depth pieces Lugo and Gsellman picked up for their fallen comrades in the final weeks of the regular season.
2. I would agree the jerking around is not good for his development. The fans (and ME!) want him to start. However, he did perform poorly after April. I do not recall any issue between Collins and the FO in regard to Conforto’s playing time. Collins was adamant Conforto would be platooned last year. Clearly Sandy & Co. misread the market for power hitting 1B/OF and are now stuck with Bruce. Early on in the off-season Sandy even seemed to signal Conforto would play more: http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/sandy-alderson-michael-conforto-still-is-in-the-outfield-mix-1.12586800
They were definitely a good team in 2015. My point is that around then, their future was considered very bright because of their rotation, which was obviously already good in 2015. I am looking forward from there.
However, looking more closely, my initial impression was probably wrong, because they led (basically tied) for the MLB lead in rotation WAR in 2016 and are projected to be 2nd in rotation WAR in 2017. In my defense, their WAR projections on this page are across the board lower than on the SP depth charts.
Thanks for the info. I think I may be remembering mostly Keith Law complaining that Conforto wasn’t playing enough.
That comp for Syndergaard is downright AWESOME!
Willie Horton or will he not get elected?
Some of these projections seem fair, some of them seem low. The projections seem way too low on a rate basis for Wright, Bruce, Harvey and Wheeler. I don’t necessarily fault the projection system for Bruce – they don’t use exit velocity data in their calculations – but Wright and Harvey seem like pretty clear cut cases of guys playing through injuries leading to poor performance.
Harvey has been a top 10 pitcher in baseball every year he’s been healthy. Pretty ridiculous to project him for a 3.83 ERA while also playing in the most pitcher friendly ballpark in the league.
Wheeler, as another commenter noted, seems to be docked performance wise for being hurt for a long time. That may be reasonable, but to be clear a healthy version of Zack Wheeler is a much better pitcher than the projections make him out to be.
Other than that the projections seem fair. I do think the Mets could pretty easily far outpace these projections, simply because a lot of players have seemed to make adjustments that have led to improve their performance. Walker has learned how to hit right-handed as a Met, which increases his offensive value dramatically. Cabrera has transformed himself into a legitimate pull power threat under the tutelage of Kevin Long (similar to Murphy). Cespedes seemed to become a more disciplined hitter last year, an observation that is confirmed by his pitch f(x) data.
If you see a few of these players through a slightly different lens, suddenly this is a very dangerous team. A team with an historically good rotation combined with elite power all over the diamond (with admittedly poor defense). Should be a tight race between the Mets and the Nationals. I expect both teams to win upwards of 95 games.
Yeah, Harvey *was* a top 10 pitcher when healthy. But nobody knows what he *will be*. I’ve been searching for months for info and expectations going forwards, and there’s nothing. It’s not like TJ surgery where there’s plenty of data… Tyson Ross was let go because of the same surgery, because no one knows. We don’t have any idea until he starts throwing in Spring Training. It’s not ridiculous at all to project him for a 3.83 ERA when nobody knows how healthy he is, and nobody knows what kind of stuff he’ll have, or if he’ll still have the same command.
I think the fans are being way too optimistic on Harvey and Wheeler’s health. Is there a chance they return to form, sure, but for TOS surgery the results have been bad and guys don’t usually miss 2 years with TJ and turn into a success story.
Atually cornflake these projections don’t take that in to account. They take in to account he didn’t dominate the minors so it regresses his ml performance, takes in to account him missing 2 years and adds that he wasn’t good in his one inning last year.
I’m confused, sounds like you’re talking about Wheeler… I’m just referring to Harvey, although I did talk about Wheeler’s command in another post near the top.
O ye my b.
You can’t just assume health. Wright has a chronic back problem. It’s not going away. Ever. There will be good days and bad days and DL trips. As for Harvey … if there’s one thing more likely to break than a pitcher, it’s a pitcher who’s broken before. I certainly hope he’s healthy, but any responsible projection has to take the failure case into account.
Also I don’t really see any projections that seem too optimistic. I’d definitely take the over on the Mets projected W-L record.
The excessive optimism, if there is any, is probably in the playing-time projections. I’d definitely bet the under on some of those PA numbers just on health grounds.
You have to remember a projection is the most likely outcome, add 10 wins or add 10 losses and that’s the expected range. Projections will never be optimistic.
The first thing that jumped out at me was the regression for OBP from 2016 for a lot of players:
Walker .329 (.347 in 2016)
Cabrera .316 (.336 in 2016)
Reyes .316 (.326 in 2016)
Cespedes .317 (.354 in 2016)
Wright .332 (.350 in 2016 – and career .376)
TJ Rivera .299 (.345 in 2016)
I understand regression to career norms – but there was enough of a sample size for most of these guys that I find it surprising that patience was a outlier last season. Only Duda and Conforto are getting the benefit of the doubt for the other direction.
Some of this is standard regression, but there are other factors in play. Walker, Cabrera, and Cespedes are around 31 and should start seeing some aging effects. Reyes and Wright even more so – this is probably the heaviest factor in their OBP reduction. TJ Rivera only has ~100 MLB PAs, and while he has run pretty high BABIPs in the minors, his walk rate peaked around 8% right away and has steadily dropped since then to about 3%-5%.
Conforto has a bigger MLB sample size to go on, he has kept his walk rate around 10%, and his BABIP was uncharacteristically low last year. Duda looks to be benefiting mostly from positive regression, his OBP was .352, .349, and .352 between 2013-2015, before dropping to .302 last year.
I could probably take the over on Cespedes because I buy into his walk rate doubling last year. Might take the over on Walker too? But these all look pretty fair.
Lagares will platoon with granderson in CF, not in RF with Bruce. Gilmartin will not be a factor. They consider him to be their emergency starter and have used him like he’s their 4th best LHP in the bullpen (meaning he’s usually in the minors)
The Lagares situation is noted very plainly in the article.
Would guess this is the most volatile team in baseball. Not hard to see them fighting for 4th the division, not hard to see them winning it by 5 games.
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Tyler Pill, Comp= John Lackey. Ok that is quite interesting…would anyone consider a late flyer in a Deep NL only league?
Steve Avery as a comp for Steven Matz … =/
Surprised to see >500 PA for Nimmo. Why such a high estimate? Would love it if true, but seems like he is either AAA or a ‘AAAA’ player.
Straight-up answer: Read the disclaimer.
Sarcastic answer: I intended the projections to reflect the 398 game-season that MLB is implementing in 2017.
Touche
So, the play-time is based on the play-time for historical comps — so for example, Gsellman’s comps were generally regular starters, so he gets 155 IP, but since he figures to be on a pretty stacked team as far as SP, the depth charts have him much lower.
Would it be fair to take the depth chart play-time and apply that to the zWAR rates? Doing that for the pitching staff [Marcos Molina aside with no ZiPS projection, but only 20 IP and 0 fWAR on the depth charts, so doesn’t really matter], I get 17.1 fWAR
The depth charts have the Mets at 22.7, so a pretty significant difference.
Is STEAMER pretty significantly overestimating the Mets pitching? STEAMER has them in essentially a 4-way tie for second, but 17.1 would be pretty close to middle of the pack [unless STEAMER is overrating pitching value pretty much across the board].
I guess maybe the best answer is to wait for the last teams to get done and look at how teams stack up then…
I just did the same for position players, and pretty extreme there too.
Depth charts have them at 17.4 fWAR; weighting zWAR to the depth charts PAs, I get 25.0
25.0 fWAR would put the Mets at a tie for 4th on the depth charts, where the current depth chartys have them at 19th.
Totaling the two up they are pretty similar overall:
STEAMER: 40.1
ZiPS: 42.1
Is it possible that something is up with the park factors used in one system versus the other?