2017 ZiPS Projections – Seattle Mariners
After having typically appeared in the very famous pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have been released at FanGraphs the past few years. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the Seattle Mariners. Szymborski can be found at ESPN and on Twitter at @DSzymborski.
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Batters
Here’s the very easiest way to determine if a club is likely to possess at least an average collection of field players: determine if all the field players in question receive a forecast of two wins or better. Where the Seattle Mariners are concerned, that’s more or less the case.
The hypothetical right-field platoon of Seth Smith (410 PA, 1.4 zWAR) and Guillermo Heredia (523, 0.9) might represent a weak spot — as might a platoon of Dan Vogelbach (508, 1.0) and Danny Valencia (419, 1.4) at first. In both instances, however, there’s at least a path to competence. Beyond that, basically every other position in the starting lineup — including a left field occupied by the recently acquired Mitch Haniger (517, 1.9) — is average or better. Nor does this account for the nearly elite contributions of Robinson Cano (644, 4.2) and Kyle Seager (653, 4.8).
Pitchers
There are two ways pitcher WAR is calculated at FanGraphs — both by fielding-independent pitching (FIP) and by runs allowed (RA9). The first accounts only for those actions over which a pitcher exerts direct control (strikeouts, walks, home runs); the latter, for all runs conceded while the relevant pitcher is on the mound. Seattle’s rotation finished 19th in the majors by both measures this past year. The current roster doesn’t seem to offer much hope for improvement.
The 2016 season was the worst for Felix Hernandez (179.1 IP, 3.0 zWAR) basically in his career. He failed to record at least 30 starts for the first time since he debuted as a 19-year-old in 2005. He failed to record at least two wins both by FIP-WAR and RA9-WAR for the first time ever in his career — including that age-19 season. ZiPS calls for something more like his 2015 campaign, suggesting both that (a) he’s a candidate for positive regression and (b) he’s unlikely to reach the frenzied heights of his best years. No other starter is projected to produce even an average season, however.
One of the club’s very best pitchers by any measure is right-hander Edwin Diaz (79.1 IP, 67 ERA-, 1.5 zWAR). Given his recent history of working as a starter — including six of the 16 appearances he recorded at Triple-A Tacoma in 2016 — Diaz seems like a candidate for non-traditional closer usage.
Bench/Prospects
The five-player deal between Seattle and Tampa Bay on November 18 was distinctly not the most celebrated trade of the offseason. That said, utility everything Taylor Motter (492 PA, 1.4 zWAR) — acquired by the Mariners in that deal — now represents the club’s top bench player, according to Dan Szymborski’s computer. Heredia and Vogelbach, mentioned above, still retain their rookie eligibility. Beyond that pair, Boog Powell (406, 0.8), who’ll return from a suspension in 2017, receives the top projection among prospect types.
As for pitchers, the combination of Chris Heston (146.0 IP, 0.6 zWAR) and Cody Martin (129.1, 0.7) seem to represent the most promising of the club’s current starting-pitching depth. Reliever Tony Zych (45.2, 0.6), meanwhile, actually receives the second-best ERA projection (75 ERA-) on the entire team, just after Edwin Diaz and before Evan Scribner (79 ERA-).
Depth Chart
Below is a rough depth chart for the present incarnation of the Mariners, with rounded projected WAR totals for each player. For caveats regarding WAR values see disclaimer at bottom of post. Click to enlarge image.
Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site and author’s own haphazard reasoning.
| Player | B | Age | PO | PA | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kyle Seager | L | 29 | 3B | 653 | 82 | 155 | 32 | 3 | 26 | 92 | 5 | 3 |
| Robinson Cano | L | 34 | 2B | 644 | 84 | 169 | 30 | 2 | 24 | 90 | 3 | 3 |
| Nelson Cruz | R | 36 | RF | 586 | 77 | 141 | 23 | 1 | 36 | 93 | 3 | 2 |
| Jean Segura | R | 27 | SS | 657 | 76 | 165 | 25 | 6 | 13 | 55 | 30 | 9 |
| Leonys Martin | L | 29 | CF | 508 | 58 | 114 | 17 | 4 | 11 | 44 | 22 | 7 |
| Mike Zunino | R | 26 | C | 470 | 53 | 91 | 17 | 1 | 22 | 63 | 0 | 1 |
| Mitch Haniger | R | 26 | CF | 517 | 57 | 110 | 20 | 3 | 18 | 61 | 7 | 3 |
| Seth Smith | L | 34 | RF | 410 | 52 | 87 | 19 | 2 | 13 | 51 | 0 | 0 |
| Danny Valencia | R | 32 | 3B | 419 | 54 | 103 | 20 | 1 | 14 | 52 | 1 | 1 |
| Taylor Motter | R | 27 | SS | 492 | 57 | 109 | 23 | 1 | 14 | 55 | 15 | 6 |
| Chris Iannetta | R | 34 | C | 320 | 28 | 58 | 13 | 0 | 9 | 32 | 1 | 0 |
| Dan Vogelbach | L | 24 | 1B | 508 | 63 | 106 | 20 | 1 | 18 | 62 | 1 | 1 |
| Guillermo Heredia | R | 26 | CF | 523 | 55 | 112 | 14 | 1 | 5 | 41 | 4 | 4 |
| Dae-Ho Lee | R | 35 | 1B | 439 | 50 | 102 | 19 | 0 | 20 | 67 | 0 | 0 |
| Boog Powell | L | 24 | CF | 406 | 41 | 89 | 11 | 3 | 4 | 28 | 11 | 10 |
| Stefen Romero | R | 28 | RF | 475 | 59 | 114 | 23 | 3 | 16 | 63 | 3 | 3 |
| Carlos Ruiz | R | 38 | C | 239 | 20 | 49 | 9 | 0 | 2 | 17 | 2 | 1 |
| Marcus Littlewood | B | 25 | C | 286 | 28 | 54 | 13 | 0 | 4 | 24 | 2 | 1 |
| Ben Gamel | L | 25 | CF | 580 | 63 | 129 | 25 | 6 | 10 | 56 | 11 | 5 |
| Adam Lind | L | 33 | 1B | 429 | 48 | 98 | 19 | 1 | 14 | 57 | 0 | 0 |
| Tyler O’Neill | R | 22 | RF | 537 | 63 | 112 | 20 | 2 | 25 | 76 | 9 | 4 |
| Shawn O’Malley | B | 29 | SS | 376 | 39 | 78 | 12 | 3 | 4 | 30 | 12 | 4 |
| Jesus Sucre | R | 29 | C | 171 | 14 | 38 | 6 | 0 | 1 | 12 | 0 | 1 |
| Franklin Gutierrez | R | 34 | RF | 281 | 34 | 60 | 12 | 0 | 13 | 41 | 2 | 1 |
| Steve Clevenger | L | 31 | C | 234 | 22 | 53 | 9 | 1 | 3 | 22 | 0 | 0 |
| Zach Shank | R | 26 | 3B | 432 | 41 | 90 | 14 | 3 | 4 | 30 | 4 | 3 |
| Ryan Casteel | R | 26 | C | 350 | 31 | 69 | 13 | 1 | 8 | 32 | 2 | 2 |
| Drew Jackson | R | 23 | SS | 615 | 58 | 125 | 19 | 2 | 4 | 36 | 11 | 9 |
| Tyler Smith | R | 25 | SS | 477 | 45 | 102 | 18 | 2 | 5 | 35 | 7 | 3 |
| Tyler Marlette | R | 24 | C | 394 | 38 | 81 | 16 | 1 | 8 | 38 | 4 | 3 |
| Sebastian Valle | R | 26 | C | 268 | 23 | 50 | 11 | 0 | 5 | 24 | 0 | 1 |
| Mike Freeman | L | 29 | 2B | 485 | 44 | 101 | 16 | 3 | 4 | 33 | 9 | 2 |
| Ryan Strausborger | R | 29 | RF | 374 | 35 | 76 | 13 | 1 | 7 | 28 | 14 | 3 |
| Ian Miller | L | 25 | CF | 431 | 38 | 89 | 9 | 4 | 0 | 23 | 25 | 6 |
| Adam Law | R | 27 | 3B | 343 | 31 | 71 | 11 | 1 | 2 | 22 | 11 | 5 |
| James Ramsey | L | 27 | RF | 433 | 42 | 79 | 14 | 2 | 12 | 40 | 3 | 3 |
| D.J. Peterson | R | 25 | 1B | 475 | 52 | 98 | 20 | 1 | 17 | 57 | 2 | 1 |
| Braden Bishop | R | 23 | CF | 478 | 40 | 95 | 10 | 0 | 2 | 25 | 6 | 1 |
| Mike Baxter | L | 32 | RF | 330 | 33 | 64 | 12 | 2 | 4 | 25 | 6 | 2 |
| Leon Landry | L | 27 | LF | 428 | 42 | 90 | 12 | 4 | 7 | 37 | 9 | 5 |
| Kyle Waldrop | L | 25 | RF | 469 | 44 | 101 | 20 | 2 | 9 | 42 | 5 | 4 |
| Kyle Petty | R | 26 | 1B | 412 | 37 | 78 | 14 | 1 | 5 | 31 | 6 | 3 |
***
| Player | PA | BB% | K% | ISO | BABIP | AVG | OBP | SLG | wOBA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kyle Seager | 653 | 8.9% | 16.5% | .198 | .284 | .265 | .337 | .463 | .341 |
| Robinson Cano | 644 | 7.0% | 14.1% | .180 | .303 | .287 | .342 | .467 | .339 |
| Nelson Cruz | 586 | 8.2% | 25.4% | .252 | .303 | .267 | .333 | .519 | .356 |
| Jean Segura | 657 | 4.3% | 15.8% | .124 | .305 | .269 | .308 | .393 | .314 |
| Leonys Martin | 508 | 6.5% | 23.4% | .125 | .306 | .246 | .298 | .371 | .301 |
| Mike Zunino | 470 | 6.8% | 31.5% | .202 | .272 | .216 | .288 | .418 | .304 |
| Mitch Haniger | 517 | 7.5% | 25.7% | .172 | .288 | .237 | .302 | .409 | .310 |
| Seth Smith | 410 | 10.7% | 21.5% | .173 | .285 | .243 | .332 | .416 | .322 |
| Danny Valencia | 419 | 6.7% | 22.2% | .166 | .316 | .266 | .317 | .432 | .322 |
| Taylor Motter | 492 | 6.9% | 20.1% | .150 | .279 | .243 | .298 | .393 | .307 |
| Chris Iannetta | 320 | 12.8% | 26.6% | .147 | .269 | .212 | .319 | .359 | .300 |
| Dan Vogelbach | 508 | 11.4% | 24.8% | .171 | .290 | .239 | .329 | .410 | .319 |
| Guillermo Heredia | 523 | 8.4% | 14.9% | .068 | .281 | .246 | .323 | .314 | .289 |
| Dae-Ho Lee | 439 | 6.2% | 22.3% | .195 | .284 | .251 | .305 | .446 | .321 |
| Boog Powell | 406 | 8.1% | 19.2% | .079 | .297 | .244 | .308 | .323 | .294 |
| Stefen Romero | 475 | 4.4% | 19.8% | .172 | .288 | .256 | .293 | .428 | .310 |
| Carlos Ruiz | 239 | 9.2% | 15.9% | .071 | .273 | .231 | .315 | .302 | .279 |
| Marcus Littlewood | 286 | 8.7% | 28.3% | .097 | .286 | .209 | .277 | .306 | .261 |
| Ben Gamel | 580 | 6.6% | 23.3% | .125 | .304 | .242 | .293 | .367 | .290 |
| Adam Lind | 429 | 8.6% | 19.3% | .162 | .286 | .252 | .317 | .414 | .309 |
| Tyler O’Neill | 537 | 6.5% | 35.4% | .202 | .310 | .229 | .285 | .431 | .308 |
| Shawn O’Malley | 376 | 6.9% | 20.5% | .089 | .287 | .231 | .293 | .320 | .278 |
| Jesus Sucre | 171 | 2.9% | 17.0% | .056 | .282 | .236 | .263 | .292 | .241 |
| Franklin Gutierrez | 281 | 7.5% | 30.2% | .200 | .296 | .235 | .299 | .435 | .318 |
| Steve Clevenger | 234 | 7.3% | 16.7% | .093 | .286 | .247 | .299 | .340 | .278 |
| Zach Shank | 432 | 4.9% | 22.9% | .081 | .290 | .226 | .274 | .307 | .258 |
| Ryan Casteel | 350 | 5.1% | 32.0% | .119 | .289 | .210 | .251 | .329 | .254 |
| Drew Jackson | 615 | 5.4% | 22.4% | .062 | .284 | .221 | .271 | .283 | .254 |
| Tyler Smith | 477 | 5.7% | 21.0% | .084 | .288 | .232 | .281 | .316 | .266 |
| Tyler Marlette | 394 | 5.1% | 28.4% | .113 | .289 | .218 | .259 | .331 | .262 |
| Sebastian Valle | 268 | 4.1% | 34.0% | .102 | .283 | .198 | .229 | .300 | .230 |
| Mike Freeman | 485 | 6.6% | 21.6% | .076 | .285 | .226 | .280 | .302 | .261 |
| Ryan Strausborger | 374 | 4.8% | 24.1% | .104 | .273 | .219 | .261 | .323 | .264 |
| Ian Miller | 431 | 5.3% | 18.8% | .043 | .278 | .223 | .269 | .266 | .253 |
| Adam Law | 343 | 6.1% | 21.0% | .061 | .290 | .230 | .287 | .291 | .267 |
| James Ramsey | 433 | 7.4% | 36.3% | .137 | .298 | .202 | .267 | .339 | .265 |
| D.J. Peterson | 475 | 5.1% | 30.3% | .164 | .283 | .220 | .265 | .384 | .281 |
| Braden Bishop | 478 | 5.2% | 24.3% | .036 | .287 | .216 | .263 | .252 | .232 |
| Mike Baxter | 330 | 8.2% | 22.7% | .095 | .274 | .216 | .291 | .311 | .271 |
| Leon Landry | 428 | 4.2% | 19.9% | .102 | .264 | .224 | .258 | .326 | .260 |
| Kyle Waldrop | 469 | 4.3% | 27.5% | .115 | .298 | .228 | .262 | .343 | .263 |
| Kyle Petty | 412 | 5.8% | 32.5% | .081 | .299 | .205 | .260 | .286 | .249 |
***
| Player | PA | RC/27 | OPS+ | Def | zWAR | No.1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kyle Seager | 653 | 5.7 | 122 | 3 | 4.8 | Robin Ventura |
| Robinson Cano | 644 | 6.0 | 124 | -2 | 4.2 | Charlie Gehringer |
| Nelson Cruz | 586 | 6.3 | 134 | -5 | 3.3 | Sammy Sosa |
| Jean Segura | 657 | 4.7 | 95 | -3 | 2.8 | Michael Young |
| Leonys Martin | 508 | 4.2 | 87 | 8 | 2.2 | Chris Duffy |
| Mike Zunino | 470 | 4.1 | 95 | -4 | 2.1 | John Buck |
| Mitch Haniger | 517 | 4.4 | 98 | -1 | 1.9 | Adam Hyzdu |
| Seth Smith | 410 | 4.9 | 109 | 0 | 1.4 | Lyle Overbay |
| Danny Valencia | 419 | 5.0 | 108 | -7 | 1.4 | Travis Fryman |
| Taylor Motter | 492 | 4.3 | 92 | -6 | 1.4 | Bobby Crosby |
| Chris Iannetta | 320 | 4.0 | 90 | -5 | 1.0 | Rick Dempsey |
| Dan Vogelbach | 508 | 4.8 | 106 | -1 | 1.0 | Mario Valdez |
| Guillermo Heredia | 523 | 3.5 | 81 | 0 | 0.9 | Derrell Baker |
| Dae-Ho Lee | 439 | 4.9 | 107 | -1 | 0.9 | Richie Zisk |
| Boog Powell | 406 | 3.3 | 78 | 3 | 0.8 | Jonathan Jay |
| Stefen Romero | 475 | 4.5 | 99 | -2 | 0.7 | Wil Cordero |
| Carlos Ruiz | 239 | 3.3 | 75 | -1 | 0.7 | Brad Ausmus |
| Marcus Littlewood | 286 | 2.9 | 64 | 2 | 0.7 | Donnie Scott |
| Ben Gamel | 580 | 3.9 | 84 | -5 | 0.6 | Xavier Paul |
| Adam Lind | 429 | 4.7 | 103 | -2 | 0.5 | Kevin Millar |
| Tyler O’Neill | 537 | 4.3 | 97 | -4 | 0.5 | Micah Franklin |
| Shawn O’Malley | 376 | 3.4 | 72 | -3 | 0.4 | Jose Uribe |
| Jesus Sucre | 171 | 2.6 | 56 | 3 | 0.3 | Ken Huckaby |
| Franklin Gutierrez | 281 | 4.6 | 103 | -4 | 0.3 | Candy Maldonado |
| Steve Clevenger | 234 | 3.6 | 79 | -4 | 0.3 | Jerry Grote |
| Zach Shank | 432 | 2.9 | 63 | 5 | 0.2 | Josh Petersen |
| Ryan Casteel | 350 | 2.8 | 61 | -1 | 0.1 | Luis Pujols |
| Drew Jackson | 615 | 2.5 | 56 | 5 | 0.1 | Esteban Beltre |
| Tyler Smith | 477 | 3.2 | 68 | -3 | 0.1 | Steve Sisco |
| Tyler Marlette | 394 | 2.9 | 64 | -5 | -0.1 | Ryan Luzinski |
| Sebastian Valle | 268 | 2.2 | 47 | 2 | -0.2 | Chris Curry |
| Mike Freeman | 485 | 3.1 | 64 | -1 | -0.3 | Chico Ruiz |
| Ryan Strausborger | 374 | 3.2 | 63 | 4 | -0.3 | Ambiorix Concepcion |
| Ian Miller | 431 | 2.8 | 52 | 2 | -0.4 | Jose Constanza |
| Adam Law | 343 | 3.0 | 63 | -3 | -0.5 | Bobby DeJardin |
| James Ramsey | 433 | 3.0 | 69 | 3 | -0.5 | Brian Brady |
| D.J. Peterson | 475 | 3.5 | 79 | 1 | -0.5 | Fred McNair |
| Braden Bishop | 478 | 2.4 | 46 | 6 | -0.6 | Selwyn Langaigne |
| Mike Baxter | 330 | 3.2 | 70 | -3 | -0.8 | Bubba Carpenter |
| Leon Landry | 428 | 2.9 | 63 | 0 | -1.1 | Tonayne Brown |
| Kyle Waldrop | 469 | 3.1 | 68 | -2 | -1.3 | John Hughes |
| Kyle Petty | 412 | 2.5 | 53 | -1 | -2.0 | Josh Loggins |
***
| Player | T | Age | G | GS | IP | K | BB | HR | H | R | ER |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Felix Hernandez | R | 31 | 28 | 28 | 179.3 | 171 | 55 | 21 | 164 | 78 | 73 |
| Hisashi Iwakuma | R | 36 | 25 | 25 | 148.7 | 120 | 28 | 20 | 154 | 73 | 68 |
| James Paxton | L | 28 | 23 | 23 | 118.3 | 109 | 35 | 14 | 119 | 56 | 52 |
| Edwin Diaz | R | 23 | 76 | 0 | 79.3 | 120 | 20 | 9 | 61 | 26 | 24 |
| Ariel Miranda | L | 28 | 29 | 27 | 143.0 | 114 | 47 | 19 | 146 | 73 | 68 |
| Nate Karns | R | 29 | 24 | 21 | 119.7 | 123 | 49 | 16 | 116 | 62 | 58 |
| Cody Martin | R | 27 | 33 | 21 | 129.3 | 114 | 45 | 18 | 132 | 68 | 64 |
| Chris Heston | R | 29 | 27 | 26 | 146.0 | 114 | 53 | 19 | 153 | 80 | 75 |
| Tony Zych | R | 26 | 37 | 0 | 45.7 | 55 | 13 | 5 | 40 | 17 | 16 |
| Max Povse | R | 23 | 27 | 27 | 145.3 | 107 | 41 | 20 | 159 | 80 | 75 |
| Evan Scribner | R | 31 | 37 | 0 | 39.7 | 47 | 7 | 6 | 35 | 15 | 14 |
| Nick Vincent | R | 30 | 61 | 0 | 61.0 | 68 | 17 | 8 | 56 | 26 | 24 |
| Steve Cishek | R | 31 | 61 | 0 | 60.7 | 69 | 22 | 7 | 54 | 26 | 24 |
| Drew Storen | R | 29 | 60 | 0 | 55.0 | 54 | 14 | 6 | 53 | 24 | 22 |
| Paul Fry | L | 24 | 50 | 0 | 65.7 | 70 | 28 | 7 | 60 | 30 | 28 |
| Andrew Moore | R | 23 | 28 | 28 | 149.3 | 106 | 35 | 23 | 165 | 86 | 80 |
| Marc Rzepczynski | L | 31 | 69 | 0 | 43.3 | 46 | 20 | 4 | 41 | 19 | 18 |
| Casey Fien | R | 33 | 57 | 0 | 56.3 | 51 | 11 | 7 | 56 | 26 | 24 |
| Steve Johnson | R | 29 | 31 | 5 | 60.7 | 63 | 28 | 8 | 57 | 31 | 29 |
| Zac Curtis | L | 24 | 53 | 0 | 49.7 | 59 | 20 | 7 | 44 | 22 | 21 |
| Ryne Harper | R | 28 | 38 | 0 | 58.0 | 64 | 22 | 7 | 54 | 27 | 25 |
| Ryan Yarbrough | L | 25 | 24 | 24 | 110.0 | 75 | 33 | 16 | 121 | 63 | 59 |
| James Pazos | L | 26 | 42 | 0 | 50.7 | 53 | 21 | 6 | 47 | 24 | 22 |
| Charlie Furbush | L | 31 | 28 | 0 | 17.7 | 18 | 5 | 2 | 16 | 7 | 7 |
| Dan Altavilla | R | 24 | 61 | 0 | 69.7 | 68 | 25 | 9 | 67 | 33 | 31 |
| Ryan Weber | R | 26 | 39 | 10 | 103.7 | 65 | 19 | 14 | 118 | 57 | 53 |
| Micah Owings | R | 32 | 5 | 1 | 8.7 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 9 | 4 | 4 |
| Christian Bergman | R | 29 | 26 | 13 | 88.3 | 60 | 20 | 14 | 101 | 50 | 47 |
| Rob Whalen | R | 23 | 23 | 23 | 120.7 | 102 | 53 | 17 | 125 | 71 | 66 |
| Arquimedes Caminero | R | 30 | 65 | 0 | 68.0 | 67 | 30 | 9 | 66 | 33 | 31 |
| Dean Kiekhefer | L | 28 | 53 | 0 | 58.3 | 40 | 12 | 7 | 64 | 29 | 27 |
| Al Alburquerque | R | 31 | 52 | 0 | 47.3 | 50 | 22 | 6 | 45 | 24 | 22 |
| Danny Hultzen | L | 27 | 4 | 4 | 13.7 | 11 | 7 | 2 | 15 | 9 | 8 |
| Kevin Munson | R | 28 | 33 | 0 | 38.3 | 42 | 19 | 5 | 36 | 19 | 18 |
| Jonathan Aro | R | 26 | 32 | 0 | 61.7 | 53 | 21 | 7 | 63 | 31 | 29 |
| Pat Venditte | B | 32 | 43 | 0 | 65.7 | 67 | 25 | 9 | 63 | 33 | 31 |
| Mayckol Guaipe | R | 26 | 39 | 0 | 49.3 | 39 | 14 | 6 | 52 | 26 | 24 |
| Brad Mills | L | 32 | 16 | 16 | 82.7 | 63 | 32 | 13 | 90 | 50 | 47 |
| Ryan Cook | R | 30 | 28 | 0 | 27.0 | 26 | 12 | 4 | 27 | 15 | 14 |
| Matt M. Anderson | R | 25 | 40 | 5 | 77.3 | 58 | 25 | 10 | 84 | 44 | 41 |
| Tom Wilhelmsen | R | 33 | 53 | 0 | 59.0 | 50 | 25 | 7 | 60 | 32 | 30 |
| Peter Tago | R | 24 | 41 | 0 | 60.7 | 66 | 34 | 8 | 57 | 33 | 31 |
| Sam Gaviglio | R | 27 | 24 | 22 | 129.0 | 89 | 38 | 20 | 145 | 79 | 74 |
| Emilio Pagan | R | 26 | 43 | 0 | 64.7 | 63 | 29 | 9 | 64 | 35 | 33 |
| Thyago Vieira | R | 24 | 31 | 0 | 40.7 | 34 | 23 | 5 | 42 | 25 | 23 |
***
| Player | IP | TBF | K% | BB% | BABIP | ERA | FIP | ERA- | FIP- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Felix Hernandez | 179.3 | 757 | 22.6% | 7.3% | .285 | 3.66 | 3.78 | 91 | 92 |
| Hisashi Iwakuma | 148.7 | 628 | 19.1% | 4.5% | .293 | 4.12 | 3.83 | 102 | 93 |
| James Paxton | 118.3 | 509 | 21.4% | 6.9% | .301 | 3.95 | 3.69 | 98 | 89 |
| Edwin Diaz | 79.3 | 319 | 37.6% | 6.3% | .312 | 2.72 | 2.39 | 67 | 58 |
| Ariel Miranda | 143.0 | 622 | 18.3% | 7.6% | .291 | 4.28 | 4.33 | 106 | 105 |
| Nate Karns | 119.7 | 524 | 23.5% | 9.3% | .302 | 4.36 | 4.12 | 108 | 100 |
| Cody Martin | 129.3 | 565 | 20.2% | 8.0% | .299 | 4.45 | 4.31 | 110 | 105 |
| Chris Heston | 146.0 | 644 | 17.7% | 8.2% | .299 | 4.62 | 4.47 | 114 | 108 |
| Tony Zych | 45.7 | 190 | 28.9% | 6.8% | .307 | 3.15 | 3.11 | 78 | 75 |
| Max Povse | 145.3 | 636 | 16.8% | 6.4% | .302 | 4.64 | 4.41 | 115 | 107 |
| Evan Scribner | 39.7 | 161 | 29.2% | 4.3% | .293 | 3.18 | 3.38 | 79 | 82 |
| Nick Vincent | 61.0 | 256 | 26.6% | 6.6% | .296 | 3.54 | 3.32 | 88 | 80 |
| Steve Cishek | 60.7 | 258 | 26.7% | 8.5% | .297 | 3.56 | 3.42 | 88 | 83 |
| Drew Storen | 55.0 | 232 | 23.3% | 6.0% | .309 | 3.60 | 3.54 | 89 | 86 |
| Paul Fry | 65.7 | 285 | 24.6% | 9.8% | .299 | 3.84 | 3.68 | 95 | 89 |
| Andrew Moore | 149.3 | 648 | 16.4% | 5.4% | .298 | 4.82 | 4.55 | 119 | 110 |
| Marc Rzepczynski | 43.3 | 191 | 24.1% | 10.5% | .314 | 3.74 | 3.43 | 93 | 83 |
| Casey Fien | 56.3 | 236 | 21.6% | 4.7% | .294 | 3.83 | 3.44 | 95 | 84 |
| Steve Johnson | 60.7 | 267 | 23.6% | 10.5% | .295 | 4.30 | 4.18 | 106 | 101 |
| Zac Curtis | 49.7 | 213 | 27.7% | 9.4% | .301 | 3.81 | 3.95 | 94 | 96 |
| Ryne Harper | 58.0 | 250 | 25.6% | 8.8% | .305 | 3.88 | 3.71 | 96 | 90 |
| Ryan Yarbrough | 110.0 | 484 | 15.5% | 6.8% | .297 | 4.83 | 4.72 | 120 | 115 |
| James Pazos | 50.7 | 220 | 24.1% | 9.5% | .297 | 3.91 | 3.91 | 97 | 95 |
| Charlie Furbush | 17.7 | 74 | 24.3% | 6.7% | .291 | 3.57 | 3.39 | 88 | 82 |
| Dan Altavilla | 69.7 | 301 | 22.6% | 8.3% | .297 | 4.00 | 4.04 | 99 | 98 |
| Ryan Weber | 103.7 | 448 | 14.5% | 4.2% | .301 | 4.60 | 4.24 | 114 | 103 |
| Micah Owings | 8.7 | 38 | 21.0% | 7.9% | .319 | 4.15 | 4.14 | 103 | 100 |
| Christian Bergman | 88.3 | 386 | 15.5% | 5.2% | .300 | 4.79 | 4.52 | 119 | 110 |
| Rob Whalen | 120.7 | 540 | 18.9% | 9.8% | .300 | 4.92 | 4.74 | 122 | 115 |
| Arquimedes Caminero | 68.0 | 300 | 22.3% | 10.0% | .302 | 4.10 | 4.36 | 101 | 106 |
| Dean Kiekhefer | 58.3 | 251 | 15.9% | 4.8% | .303 | 4.17 | 3.96 | 103 | 96 |
| Al Alburquerque | 47.3 | 209 | 23.9% | 10.5% | .300 | 4.18 | 4.04 | 103 | 98 |
| Danny Hultzen | 13.7 | 63 | 17.4% | 11.1% | .309 | 5.27 | 5.15 | 130 | 125 |
| Kevin Munson | 38.3 | 170 | 24.7% | 11.2% | .304 | 4.23 | 4.02 | 105 | 97 |
| Jonathan Aro | 61.7 | 269 | 19.7% | 7.8% | .303 | 4.23 | 4.03 | 105 | 98 |
| Pat Venditte | 65.7 | 285 | 23.5% | 8.8% | .298 | 4.25 | 4.13 | 105 | 100 |
| Mayckol Guaipe | 49.3 | 214 | 18.2% | 6.5% | .303 | 4.38 | 4.08 | 108 | 99 |
| Brad Mills | 82.7 | 370 | 17.0% | 8.6% | .298 | 5.12 | 4.93 | 127 | 120 |
| Ryan Cook | 27.0 | 120 | 21.7% | 10.0% | .299 | 4.67 | 4.44 | 116 | 108 |
| Matt M. Anderson | 77.3 | 341 | 17.0% | 7.3% | .303 | 4.77 | 4.37 | 118 | 106 |
| Tom Wilhelmsen | 59.0 | 262 | 19.1% | 9.5% | .298 | 4.58 | 4.22 | 113 | 102 |
| Peter Tago | 60.7 | 273 | 24.2% | 12.4% | .302 | 4.60 | 4.47 | 114 | 108 |
| Sam Gaviglio | 129.0 | 570 | 15.6% | 6.7% | .300 | 5.16 | 4.79 | 128 | 116 |
| Emilio Pagan | 64.7 | 287 | 21.9% | 10.1% | .302 | 4.59 | 4.45 | 114 | 108 |
| Thyago Vieira | 40.7 | 187 | 18.2% | 12.3% | .303 | 5.09 | 4.95 | 126 | 120 |
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| Player | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | ERA+ | zWAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Felix Hernandez | 179.3 | 8.58 | 2.76 | 1.05 | 104 | 3.0 | Dave Stieb |
| Hisashi Iwakuma | 148.7 | 7.26 | 1.69 | 1.21 | 93 | 1.6 | Paul Byrd |
| James Paxton | 118.3 | 8.29 | 2.66 | 1.07 | 97 | 1.5 | Chris Hammond |
| Edwin Diaz | 79.3 | 13.62 | 2.27 | 1.02 | 140 | 1.5 | Jonathan Broxton |
| Ariel Miranda | 143.0 | 7.17 | 2.96 | 1.20 | 89 | 1.2 | Scott Sauerbeck |
| Nate Karns | 119.7 | 9.25 | 3.68 | 1.20 | 88 | 0.9 | Chris Seelbach |
| Cody Martin | 129.3 | 7.94 | 3.13 | 1.25 | 86 | 0.7 | Steve Soderstrom |
| Chris Heston | 146.0 | 7.03 | 3.27 | 1.17 | 83 | 0.6 | Jeremy Guthrie |
| Tony Zych | 45.7 | 10.83 | 2.56 | 0.98 | 121 | 0.6 | Antonio Osuna |
| Max Povse | 145.3 | 6.63 | 2.54 | 1.24 | 82 | 0.6 | Tim Drew |
| Evan Scribner | 39.7 | 10.65 | 1.59 | 1.36 | 120 | 0.5 | Aaron Rakers |
| Nick Vincent | 61.0 | 10.03 | 2.51 | 1.18 | 108 | 0.5 | Joel Peralta |
| Steve Cishek | 60.7 | 10.23 | 3.26 | 1.04 | 107 | 0.4 | Cory Bailey |
| Drew Storen | 55.0 | 8.84 | 2.29 | 0.98 | 106 | 0.4 | Cory Bailey |
| Paul Fry | 65.7 | 9.59 | 3.84 | 0.96 | 100 | 0.2 | Buzz Oliver |
| Andrew Moore | 149.3 | 6.39 | 2.11 | 1.39 | 79 | 0.2 | Paul Quantrill |
| Marc Rzepczynski | 43.3 | 9.56 | 4.16 | 0.83 | 102 | 0.2 | Doug Capilla |
| Casey Fien | 56.3 | 8.15 | 1.76 | 1.12 | 100 | 0.2 | Gil Heredia |
| Steve Johnson | 60.7 | 9.34 | 4.15 | 1.19 | 89 | 0.2 | Doug Robertson |
| Zac Curtis | 49.7 | 10.68 | 3.62 | 1.27 | 100 | 0.2 | Angel Miranda |
| Ryne Harper | 58.0 | 9.93 | 3.41 | 1.09 | 98 | 0.2 | Steve Andrade |
| Ryan Yarbrough | 110.0 | 6.14 | 2.70 | 1.31 | 79 | 0.2 | Zach Parker |
| James Pazos | 50.7 | 9.41 | 3.73 | 1.07 | 98 | 0.1 | Jaime Cerda |
| Charlie Furbush | 17.7 | 9.15 | 2.54 | 1.02 | 107 | 0.1 | Bobby Seay |
| Dan Altavilla | 69.7 | 8.78 | 3.23 | 1.16 | 95 | 0.1 | Josh Kinney |
| Ryan Weber | 103.7 | 5.64 | 1.65 | 1.22 | 83 | 0.1 | Tim Kester |
| Micah Owings | 8.7 | 8.28 | 3.10 | 1.03 | 90 | 0.0 | Manny Aybar |
| Christian Bergman | 88.3 | 6.12 | 2.04 | 1.43 | 80 | 0.0 | Jason Simontacchi |
| Rob Whalen | 120.7 | 7.61 | 3.95 | 1.27 | 78 | 0.0 | Carl Dale |
| Arquimedes Caminero | 68.0 | 8.87 | 3.97 | 1.19 | 93 | 0.0 | Miguel Saladin |
| Dean Kiekhefer | 58.3 | 6.17 | 1.85 | 1.08 | 92 | 0.0 | Will McEnaney |
| Al Alburquerque | 47.3 | 9.51 | 4.19 | 1.14 | 91 | 0.0 | Mike Cook |
| Danny Hultzen | 13.7 | 7.23 | 4.60 | 1.31 | 73 | -0.1 | Paul Mirabella |
| Kevin Munson | 38.3 | 9.87 | 4.46 | 1.17 | 90 | -0.1 | Franklyn German |
| Jonathan Aro | 61.7 | 7.73 | 3.06 | 1.02 | 90 | -0.1 | Jeremy Wedel |
| Pat Venditte | 65.7 | 9.18 | 3.42 | 1.23 | 90 | -0.1 | Dave Stevens |
| Mayckol Guaipe | 49.3 | 7.12 | 2.56 | 1.10 | 87 | -0.2 | Jeremy Ward |
| Brad Mills | 82.7 | 6.86 | 3.48 | 1.41 | 75 | -0.2 | Jim Abbott |
| Ryan Cook | 27.0 | 8.67 | 4.00 | 1.33 | 82 | -0.2 | Ryan Bukvich |
| Matt M. Anderson | 77.3 | 6.75 | 2.91 | 1.16 | 80 | -0.3 | Gary Serum |
| Tom Wilhelmsen | 59.0 | 7.63 | 3.81 | 1.07 | 83 | -0.4 | Jim Czajkowski |
| Peter Tago | 60.7 | 9.79 | 5.04 | 1.19 | 83 | -0.4 | Joe Valentine |
| Sam Gaviglio | 129.0 | 6.21 | 2.65 | 1.40 | 74 | -0.4 | John Lackey |
| Emilio Pagan | 64.7 | 8.76 | 4.03 | 1.25 | 83 | -0.4 | Rich Croushore |
| Thyago Vieira | 40.7 | 7.52 | 5.09 | 1.11 | 75 | -0.5 | Mark Zamarripa |
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Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2017. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.
Players are listed with their most recent teams unless Dan has made a mistake. This is very possible as a lot of minor-league signings are generally unreported in the offseason.
ZiPS is projecting based on the AL having a 4.05 ERA and the NL having a 3.97 ERA.
Players that are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information and a computer isn’t what should be projecting the injury status of, for example, a pitcher with Tommy John surgery.
Regarding ERA+ vs. ERA- (and FIP+ vs. FIP-) and the differences therein: as Patriot notes here, they are not simply mirror images of each other. Writes Patriot: “ERA+ does not tell you that a pitcher’s ERA was X% less or more than the league’s ERA. It tells you that the league’s ERA was X% less or more than the pitcher’s ERA.”
Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in full release of ZiPS. Finally, Szymborski will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on depth chart to produce projected team WAR.
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If everything breaks right, in a few years their entire lineup will be 9-deep of Kyles and Tylers
There was a point a few years back where their infield consisted of Justin, Dustin, Brendan, and Kyle. Which I’m pretty sure is the first names of every boy band ever.
John Lackey is a pretty complimentary comp for this Sam Gaviglio character
I’ve got bad news for you. There’s another John Lackey.
Really? I couldn’t find him on Fangraphs or BB-Ref. Still that is really bad news.
Lesser John Lackey: http://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.cgi?id=lackey001joh
John Lackey’s lackey.
I know that one of the lessons of the last 15 years of baseball research is that amateurs are rarely smarter than the models, but my instinct is to take the over on that batting line for Seager.
His past 4 years average per 162 games is 27 HR, 83 R, 86 RBI, .268/.340/.457 with little to no deviation year-to-year. Is there reason to expect a jump in production?
He has a little brother getting all the attention. That’ll do it.
That, and his 35-point spike in ISO from his previous career high, and his career-best walk rate.
He may have just had his career year (in fact, I’d probably put that as more likely than not), but he also may have just broken out in a way he’ll be able to sustain for another 2-3 years. At a minimum, there’s something there for glass half full guys to dream on.
Thanks for the assumption of idiocy and bad faith. In fact, it’s that he added 50 points of slugging without a BA spike. His brother has nothing to do with it.
I feel like “little to no deviation” doesn’t mean what you think it means.
Looks like a deep bullpen with a bunch of + relievers for Zych to not get listed.
If only young Boog were a 1B with a more ‘projectible body,’ This would be a classic comp infield. Sigh.
That looks like a solid team who could contend for a wild card again but not for the division title because Astros.
That is why they play the game. If you told me that the Astros, Mariners, or Rangers won the division I would not be surprised. Astros look a lot better on paper, but thats why they play the game
also thats why they play the game
That looks like a solid team who could contend for a wild card again but not for the division title because Astros.
Future White Sox manager Kyle Seager
Probably more likely neither Seth Smith, nor Heredia, are on the opening day roster (Smith moved; Heredia stashed), as Dipoto and Servais sound determined to find PA’s for Gamel, Haniger, Valencia, and Vogelbach. But with a solid number 4 starter, a power RHRP, and a LHRP that can dominate an inning, this should be an improved team both at the plate and especially in the field.
So hopefully we see a solid number 4 starter and those relievers soon!
I saw that Cano is expected to provide negative defensive value, so I was curious about his historical defensive contributions. Looking at his player page for advanced defensive metrics, he’s been all over the place, especially with respect to DRS. He has a career total DRS of 28, despite having seasons where he got: 23(!), 18, 15, and 11.
There’s been no consistent pattern in his career, he just seems to have randomly great, randomly terrible, and randomly average defensive contributions.
Or maybe DRS just doesn’t know what to do with him.
His UZR/150 has been average or slightly below (and sometimes well below) every year except 2007 (+7) and 2012 (+10). I trust that more than DRS and would say he’s basically a slightly below average defender.
Some of those inconsistencies probably had something to do with positioning and having had a hernia. We saw a spike in OOZ last season, which I would assume had a lot to do with shifts, and he certainly looked comfortable with the shifts on.
I wouldn’t read into the negative defensive projection too much, nor would I look at just one stat or two (and I’m sure nobody here would!). He’s still a solid second baseman with an excellent bat.
It could be that defensive statistics remain basically a form of voodoo.
How much does injury history factor into ZiPS projections? Asking for a friend (James Paxton).
team doesn’t look too bad
I’m weary at this moment, the market is moving so slow!
Would be nice to see M’s ownership pony up some leverage dollars to make 2017 playoffs a likelihood rather than a remote hope. They’re only in for about $145 million on opening day.
A starter is critically necessary, or two even. I don’t like the talk of bringing on Doug Fister, the tail end of the rotation is already pretty well structured with Karns, Miranda, Heston, Whalen, Povse, Unsworth, and Martin. I think they can afford to add upside/risk like Alex Cobb, Tyson Ross, Jason Hammel, Brandon McCarthy, etc.
With Caminero departing they could add another reliever too, maybe buying on Drew Storen would fit Dipoto’s mode of operation.
They have two whole positions worth of playing time slated to go between rookies Vogelbach/Heredia/Haniger which feels like a risk. They could sign either a 1B or OF and through the versatility of Valencia only block the least deserving of those three from the opening day projected roster. (What’s Jose Bautista going for? Colby Rasmus?)
Say they did heed all of my requests and pulled something nice for each of those areas, they’d still fall short of the luxury tax threshold.
This looks like a “Last team to get eliminated from playoff contention” roster.