2017 ZiPS Projections – St. Louis Cardinals
After having typically appeared in the very famous pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have been released at FanGraphs the past few years. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the St. Louis Cardinals. Szymborski can be found at ESPN and on Twitter at @DSzymborski.
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Batters
On Monday, the author of this post published the ZiPS projections for the Milwaukee Brewers. Among the findings one might have extracted from that document? No Brewers position player receives a forecast greater than 2.8 wins for 2017. Not much better than average, in other words.
Examining the numbers presented here, one finds a similar trend. Among those players currently employed by the St. Louis Cardinals, no batter is projected by Dan Szymborski’s computer to record more than 3.1 wins in 2017. Which is to say, not much better than average.
This might comes as a surprise. While the Brewers weren’t particularly good in 2016 and aren’t expected to be particularly good in 2017, the Cardinals missed the playoffs by a single game in 2016 and have comported themselves this offseason — as they have in many other, recent offseasons — as a team that intends to compete for a World Championship.
Pitching is one variable that separates the Cardinals and Brewers, of course. Another is sheer volume of competent pieces, though. The Cardinals appear to have a distinctly egalitarian approach to roster construction. While none of their starting field players is projected for more than 3.1 wins, all of them are forecast for more than 2.2 wins. They are infested with competence.
Pitchers
Like their field-playing counterparts, the Cardinals’ starting rotation is populated uniformly by average or slightly better pieces. Carlos Martinez (192.0 IP, 4.2 zWAR) represents the one exception: at four-plus wins, he not only receives the club’s top overall projection, but is acquitted as something more like a legitimate star. But Mike Leake (173.2, 2.0), Michael Wacha (138.1, 1.6), Adam Wainwright (149.1, 2.1): they’re all in the average range.
A note on the final member of the Cardinals’ likely Opening Day rotation, Lance Lynn (98.0, 1.6): ZiPS accounts for the fact that he missed the 2016 season, not why he missed it. All reports suggest he should be fine for spring training, etc. His absence is almost certainly what informs his modest innings projection, however.
Bench/Prospects
While Jhonny Peralta (454 PA, 1.8 zWAR) appears as Kolten Wong’s (495, 2.4) platoon partner in the depth-chart image below, the Cardinals’ infield situation is likely to be a fluid one — or has the potential to be, certainly, given the presence of five useful options. Matt Carpenter (601, 3.0), Aledmys Diaz (511, 2.7) and Jedd Gyorko (477, 2.4) are all capable of playing multiple positions and all receive a projection of two wins or better.
Nor does that even represent the entirety of the club’s competent infield depth. Greg Garcia (427, 1.5) and the cruelly neglected Wilfredo Tovar (454, 1.3) profile as strong bench players. Harrison Bader (441, 1.2) and Tommy Pham (347, 1.3), meanwhile, represent the top outfield alternatives.
With regard to pitchers, Alex Reyes (121.1 IP, 1.8 zWAR) was quite impressive in his brief exposure to major-league competition last year. Szymborski’s computer suggests he profiles as basically a league-average starter already. Luke Weaver (115.2, 1.6) was less impressive in terms of run prevention, but actually produced superior fielding-independent indicators to Reyes during his own, brief major-league run. His projection is also promising.
Depth Chart
Below is a rough depth chart for the present incarnation of the Cardinals, with rounded projected WAR totals for each player. For caveats regarding WAR values see disclaimer at bottom of post. Click to enlarge image.
Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site and author’s own haphazard reasoning.
| Player | B | Age | PO | PA | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yadier Molina | R | 34 | C | 507 | 43 | 132 | 27 | 1 | 7 | 54 | 3 | 2 |
| Stephen Piscotty | R | 26 | RF | 625 | 77 | 154 | 36 | 3 | 18 | 79 | 8 | 6 |
| Matt Carpenter | L | 31 | 1B | 601 | 86 | 134 | 34 | 4 | 18 | 67 | 2 | 4 |
| Dexter Fowler | B | 31 | CF | 552 | 75 | 122 | 24 | 6 | 11 | 43 | 12 | 5 |
| Aledmys Diaz | R | 26 | SS | 511 | 64 | 124 | 28 | 3 | 15 | 62 | 8 | 5 |
| Jedd Gyorko | R | 28 | 2B | 477 | 55 | 107 | 17 | 1 | 22 | 70 | 1 | 1 |
| Kolten Wong | L | 26 | 2B | 495 | 59 | 114 | 17 | 6 | 11 | 46 | 13 | 3 |
| Randal Grichuk | R | 25 | CF | 524 | 69 | 122 | 30 | 5 | 23 | 69 | 5 | 4 |
| Jhonny Peralta | R | 35 | 3B | 454 | 46 | 106 | 23 | 1 | 13 | 49 | 1 | 2 |
| Greg Garcia | L | 27 | SS | 427 | 44 | 89 | 17 | 2 | 3 | 29 | 7 | 3 |
| Wilfredo Tovar | R | 25 | SS | 454 | 46 | 107 | 18 | 3 | 2 | 35 | 19 | 9 |
| Tommy Pham | R | 29 | CF | 347 | 44 | 76 | 13 | 4 | 11 | 36 | 9 | 3 |
| Harrison Bader | R | 23 | CF | 441 | 52 | 99 | 17 | 4 | 14 | 50 | 11 | 10 |
| Carson Kelly | R | 22 | C | 415 | 41 | 93 | 19 | 1 | 7 | 41 | 0 | 1 |
| Matt Adams | L | 28 | 1B | 360 | 37 | 86 | 20 | 1 | 13 | 53 | 1 | 1 |
| Eliezer Alvarez | L | 22 | 2B | 433 | 46 | 102 | 25 | 4 | 5 | 43 | 19 | 13 |
| Chad Huffman | R | 32 | 1B | 287 | 34 | 63 | 16 | 2 | 9 | 25 | 3 | 2 |
| Luke Voit | R | 26 | 1B | 542 | 61 | 124 | 17 | 4 | 14 | 61 | 1 | 1 |
| Paul DeJong | R | 23 | 3B | 479 | 51 | 106 | 22 | 3 | 13 | 53 | 6 | 3 |
| Jacob Wilson | R | 26 | 3B | 398 | 43 | 82 | 20 | 1 | 11 | 44 | 2 | 3 |
| Dean Anna | L | 30 | 2B | 405 | 44 | 87 | 18 | 3 | 3 | 34 | 3 | 3 |
| Jesse Jenner | R | 23 | C | 193 | 20 | 43 | 8 | 0 | 3 | 16 | 1 | 1 |
| Todd Cunningham | B | 28 | RF | 458 | 52 | 102 | 18 | 3 | 5 | 39 | 14 | 5 |
| Breyvic Valera | B | 25 | 2B | 508 | 49 | 126 | 16 | 4 | 1 | 36 | 8 | 7 |
| Eric Fryer | R | 31 | C | 195 | 21 | 40 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 17 | 2 | 2 |
| Brandon Moss | L | 33 | 1B | 467 | 54 | 94 | 18 | 2 | 22 | 61 | 1 | 0 |
| Jose Martinez | R | 28 | LF | 438 | 46 | 108 | 21 | 2 | 8 | 42 | 6 | 2 |
| Nick Martini | L | 27 | RF | 455 | 46 | 96 | 18 | 3 | 5 | 36 | 6 | 4 |
| Edmundo Sosa | R | 21 | SS | 401 | 38 | 90 | 12 | 3 | 6 | 32 | 5 | 5 |
| Gabriel Lino | R | 24 | C | 281 | 26 | 55 | 12 | 0 | 5 | 24 | 0 | 2 |
| Brayan Pena | B | 35 | C | 223 | 14 | 54 | 9 | 0 | 2 | 14 | 1 | 1 |
| Alberto Rosario | R | 30 | C | 142 | 11 | 30 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 9 | 0 | 0 |
| Patrick Wisdom | R | 25 | 3B | 427 | 40 | 81 | 19 | 3 | 9 | 40 | 5 | 2 |
| Alex Mejia | R | 26 | SS | 376 | 34 | 83 | 15 | 2 | 3 | 28 | 3 | 2 |
| Anthony Garcia | R | 25 | RF | 410 | 45 | 86 | 19 | 1 | 11 | 42 | 4 | 3 |
| Jordan Schafer | L | 30 | CF | 104 | 10 | 20 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 8 | 3 |
| Bruce Caldwell | L | 25 | 2B | 435 | 42 | 80 | 17 | 3 | 8 | 38 | 3 | 1 |
| Magneuris Sierra | L | 21 | CF | 542 | 52 | 124 | 20 | 3 | 5 | 41 | 21 | 16 |
| Carlos Peguero | L | 30 | RF | 346 | 39 | 73 | 14 | 1 | 15 | 42 | 4 | 1 |
| Jonathan Rodriguez | R | 27 | 1B | 490 | 50 | 101 | 19 | 1 | 11 | 46 | 5 | 4 |
| Dickie Joe Thon | R | 25 | 2B | 420 | 36 | 78 | 15 | 2 | 6 | 31 | 9 | 8 |
| Austin Wilson | R | 25 | RF | 396 | 39 | 68 | 12 | 1 | 7 | 32 | 4 | 4 |
***
| Player | PA | BB% | K% | ISO | BABIP | AVG | OBP | SLG | wOBA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yadier Molina | 507 | 5.9% | 11.6% | .107 | .307 | .282 | .327 | .389 | .312 |
| Stephen Piscotty | 625 | 7.8% | 18.4% | .170 | .313 | .273 | .338 | .443 | .342 |
| Matt Carpenter | 601 | 13.1% | 19.8% | .189 | .308 | .263 | .366 | .452 | .352 |
| Dexter Fowler | 552 | 12.5% | 21.4% | .147 | .322 | .259 | .360 | .406 | .342 |
| Aledmys Diaz | 511 | 6.7% | 16.8% | .171 | .298 | .268 | .325 | .439 | .329 |
| Jedd Gyorko | 477 | 7.5% | 22.0% | .195 | .273 | .246 | .306 | .441 | .320 |
| Kolten Wong | 495 | 7.1% | 15.8% | .140 | .286 | .256 | .322 | .396 | .317 |
| Randal Grichuk | 524 | 5.3% | 27.1% | .223 | .304 | .249 | .296 | .472 | .329 |
| Jhonny Peralta | 454 | 7.7% | 17.8% | .156 | .289 | .257 | .317 | .413 | .315 |
| Greg Garcia | 427 | 10.5% | 20.4% | .081 | .306 | .241 | .333 | .322 | .295 |
| Wilfredo Tovar | 454 | 5.1% | 11.9% | .071 | .286 | .254 | .298 | .325 | .287 |
| Tommy Pham | 347 | 9.5% | 27.1% | .174 | .314 | .244 | .320 | .418 | .327 |
| Harrison Bader | 441 | 5.4% | 26.1% | .165 | .305 | .244 | .299 | .409 | .320 |
| Carson Kelly | 415 | 5.3% | 20.0% | .109 | .289 | .242 | .286 | .351 | .277 |
| Matt Adams | 360 | 6.1% | 22.8% | .183 | .303 | .258 | .306 | .441 | .317 |
| Eliezer Alvarez | 433 | 7.2% | 21.0% | .122 | .323 | .260 | .319 | .382 | .323 |
| Chad Huffman | 287 | 8.7% | 21.3% | .184 | .289 | .247 | .324 | .431 | .331 |
| Luke Voit | 542 | 8.7% | 22.3% | .138 | .310 | .255 | .325 | .393 | .313 |
| Paul DeJong | 479 | 6.5% | 28.2% | .153 | .316 | .242 | .299 | .395 | .304 |
| Jacob Wilson | 398 | 6.8% | 23.6% | .153 | .273 | .228 | .287 | .381 | .291 |
| Dean Anna | 405 | 9.4% | 14.6% | .092 | .279 | .242 | .315 | .334 | .291 |
| Jesse Jenner | 193 | 5.2% | 16.6% | .095 | .278 | .240 | .292 | .335 | .279 |
| Todd Cunningham | 458 | 6.8% | 14.8% | .095 | .286 | .249 | .313 | .344 | .295 |
| Breyvic Valera | 508 | 6.5% | 8.9% | .058 | .295 | .270 | .317 | .328 | .292 |
| Eric Fryer | 195 | 8.7% | 22.1% | .068 | .295 | .229 | .299 | .297 | .273 |
| Brandon Moss | 467 | 9.4% | 28.1% | .214 | .274 | .228 | .310 | .442 | .318 |
| Jose Martinez | 438 | 6.8% | 16.9% | .122 | .309 | .269 | .318 | .391 | .310 |
| Nick Martini | 455 | 8.6% | 17.8% | .096 | .281 | .235 | .308 | .331 | .287 |
| Edmundo Sosa | 401 | 4.5% | 21.4% | .095 | .294 | .239 | .278 | .334 | .274 |
| Gabriel Lino | 281 | 5.3% | 31.3% | .103 | .294 | .211 | .257 | .314 | .250 |
| Brayan Pena | 223 | 5.4% | 10.8% | .072 | .284 | .261 | .302 | .333 | .278 |
| Alberto Rosario | 142 | 4.2% | 17.6% | .076 | .271 | .227 | .270 | .303 | .251 |
| Patrick Wisdom | 427 | 6.8% | 30.9% | .132 | .283 | .207 | .263 | .339 | .266 |
| Alex Mejia | 376 | 4.5% | 16.8% | .080 | .281 | .239 | .278 | .319 | .260 |
| Anthony Garcia | 410 | 7.3% | 22.4% | .146 | .279 | .233 | .301 | .379 | .299 |
| Jordan Schafer | 104 | 8.7% | 25.0% | .098 | .292 | .217 | .287 | .315 | .287 |
| Bruce Caldwell | 435 | 8.7% | 33.3% | .120 | .300 | .206 | .277 | .326 | .266 |
| Magneuris Sierra | 542 | 3.5% | 22.5% | .080 | .306 | .242 | .270 | .322 | .275 |
| Carlos Peguero | 346 | 7.2% | 32.7% | .193 | .304 | .230 | .289 | .423 | .305 |
| Jonathan Rodriguez | 490 | 8.2% | 28.8% | .122 | .304 | .226 | .292 | .348 | .285 |
| Dickie Joe Thon | 420 | 5.0% | 32.9% | .095 | .290 | .200 | .251 | .295 | .253 |
| Austin Wilson | 396 | 6.8% | 36.6% | .098 | .299 | .192 | .273 | .290 | .259 |
***
| Player | PA | RC/27 | OPS+ | Def | zWAR | No.1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yadier Molina | 507 | 4.8 | 94 | 4 | 3.1 | Paul Lo Duca |
| Stephen Piscotty | 625 | 5.5 | 110 | 5 | 3.1 | Willie Montanez |
| Matt Carpenter | 601 | 5.9 | 121 | 3 | 3.0 | Kevin Youkilis |
| Dexter Fowler | 552 | 5.4 | 108 | -6 | 2.8 | Mitch Webster |
| Aledmys Diaz | 511 | 5.2 | 105 | -3 | 2.7 | Khalil Greene |
| Jedd Gyorko | 477 | 4.8 | 100 | 3 | 2.4 | Phil Nevin |
| Kolten Wong | 495 | 4.8 | 94 | 4 | 2.4 | Bill Spiers |
| Randal Grichuk | 524 | 5.0 | 104 | -4 | 2.2 | J.J. Davis |
| Jhonny Peralta | 454 | 4.7 | 96 | 1 | 1.8 | Tim Wallach |
| Greg Garcia | 427 | 3.8 | 79 | 2 | 1.5 | Ed Giovanola |
| Wilfredo Tovar | 454 | 3.5 | 72 | 6 | 1.3 | Gary Cates |
| Tommy Pham | 347 | 4.9 | 98 | -3 | 1.3 | Lou Collier |
| Harrison Bader | 441 | 4.1 | 90 | -1 | 1.2 | Jim Lindeman |
| Carson Kelly | 415 | 3.5 | 72 | 1 | 1.1 | Rene Rivera |
| Matt Adams | 360 | 4.9 | 100 | 3 | 0.9 | Daryle Ward |
| Eliezer Alvarez | 433 | 4.3 | 90 | -3 | 0.9 | Brad Wellman |
| Chad Huffman | 287 | 5.0 | 103 | 0 | 0.7 | Daryl Boston |
| Luke Voit | 542 | 4.6 | 94 | 1 | 0.7 | Domingo Michel |
| Paul DeJong | 479 | 4.2 | 86 | -6 | 0.6 | Ty Wigginton |
| Jacob Wilson | 398 | 3.7 | 79 | 0 | 0.6 | Paul Russo |
| Dean Anna | 405 | 3.7 | 77 | 0 | 0.6 | Ed Giovanola |
| Jesse Jenner | 193 | 3.4 | 70 | 1 | 0.6 | Mike Nickeas |
| Todd Cunningham | 458 | 4.0 | 78 | 4 | 0.6 | Rick Manning |
| Breyvic Valera | 508 | 3.7 | 76 | -1 | 0.5 | Omar Vizquel |
| Eric Fryer | 195 | 3.0 | 63 | 2 | 0.5 | Joe Kmak |
| Brandon Moss | 467 | 4.8 | 101 | -4 | 0.4 | Graham Koonce |
| Jose Martinez | 438 | 4.6 | 91 | -3 | 0.4 | Mike Brown |
| Nick Martini | 455 | 3.6 | 74 | 5 | 0.3 | Scott Bikowski |
| Edmundo Sosa | 401 | 3.2 | 66 | -1 | 0.2 | Mark DeRosa |
| Gabriel Lino | 281 | 2.6 | 54 | 2 | 0.2 | Alvin Colina |
| Brayan Pena | 223 | 3.6 | 73 | -4 | 0.1 | Rick Cerone |
| Alberto Rosario | 142 | 2.9 | 55 | 1 | 0.1 | Charlie Greene |
| Patrick Wisdom | 427 | 3.1 | 62 | 3 | 0.1 | Greg Thissen |
| Alex Mejia | 376 | 3.1 | 62 | 1 | 0.1 | Mark DeRosa |
| Anthony Garcia | 410 | 4.0 | 83 | -2 | 0.0 | Vito Chiaravalloti |
| Jordan Schafer | 104 | 3.4 | 64 | -2 | -0.2 | Kevin Koslofski |
| Bruce Caldwell | 435 | 3.1 | 63 | -2 | -0.3 | Steve Fanning |
| Magneuris Sierra | 542 | 2.9 | 60 | 2 | -0.5 | Trench Davis |
| Carlos Peguero | 346 | 4.4 | 90 | -11 | -0.7 | Doug Frobel |
| Jonathan Rodriguez | 490 | 3.5 | 73 | 0 | -0.8 | Kurt Airoso |
| Dickie Joe Thon | 420 | 2.3 | 48 | -1 | -1.2 | Robert McIntyre |
| Austin Wilson | 396 | 2.5 | 53 | -1 | -1.5 | Shawn Buhner |
***
| Player | T | Age | G | GS | IP | K | BB | HR | H | R | ER |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Carlos Martinez | R | 25 | 31 | 31 | 192.0 | 182 | 65 | 18 | 174 | 76 | 71 |
| Adam Wainwright | R | 35 | 24 | 24 | 149.3 | 115 | 40 | 16 | 151 | 71 | 66 |
| Mike Leake | R | 29 | 28 | 28 | 173.7 | 120 | 38 | 20 | 181 | 86 | 80 |
| Alex Reyes | R | 22 | 25 | 20 | 121.3 | 140 | 63 | 12 | 103 | 56 | 52 |
| Lance Lynn | R | 30 | 18 | 18 | 98.0 | 87 | 38 | 10 | 95 | 44 | 41 |
| Luke Weaver | R | 23 | 22 | 21 | 115.7 | 99 | 28 | 13 | 116 | 55 | 51 |
| Michael Wacha | R | 25 | 25 | 24 | 138.3 | 117 | 45 | 16 | 137 | 68 | 64 |
| Seung Hwan Oh | R | 34 | 68 | 0 | 64.7 | 81 | 15 | 6 | 51 | 20 | 19 |
| Zach Duke | L | 34 | 70 | 0 | 55.3 | 60 | 24 | 5 | 46 | 20 | 19 |
| Miguel Socolovich | R | 30 | 53 | 0 | 61.3 | 63 | 21 | 5 | 52 | 24 | 22 |
| Brett Cecil | L | 30 | 60 | 0 | 47.3 | 59 | 15 | 4 | 39 | 17 | 16 |
| Tyler Lyons | L | 29 | 48 | 0 | 61.0 | 62 | 16 | 9 | 54 | 25 | 23 |
| Trevor Rosenthal | R | 27 | 59 | 0 | 58.7 | 73 | 32 | 5 | 51 | 24 | 22 |
| Kevin Siegrist | L | 27 | 68 | 0 | 60.3 | 70 | 28 | 8 | 49 | 26 | 24 |
| John Gant | R | 24 | 29 | 19 | 117.3 | 106 | 49 | 16 | 116 | 65 | 61 |
| Daniel Poncedeleon | R | 25 | 23 | 23 | 126.0 | 83 | 55 | 15 | 133 | 72 | 67 |
| Matthew Bowman | R | 26 | 61 | 0 | 68.0 | 55 | 21 | 6 | 64 | 30 | 28 |
| Sam Tuivailala | R | 24 | 58 | 0 | 61.3 | 72 | 32 | 6 | 52 | 27 | 25 |
| Marco Gonzales | L | 25 | 16 | 16 | 82.3 | 61 | 29 | 12 | 89 | 47 | 44 |
| Zach Phillips | L | 30 | 42 | 0 | 49.3 | 54 | 24 | 5 | 43 | 22 | 21 |
| Mike Mayers | R | 25 | 23 | 22 | 119.3 | 87 | 43 | 17 | 128 | 70 | 65 |
| Rowan Wick | R | 24 | 47 | 0 | 44.3 | 49 | 26 | 3 | 38 | 20 | 19 |
| Jonathan Broxton | R | 33 | 62 | 0 | 56.7 | 52 | 21 | 6 | 52 | 27 | 25 |
| Austin Gomber | L | 23 | 21 | 21 | 116.0 | 92 | 43 | 19 | 121 | 68 | 64 |
| Artie Reyes | R | 25 | 18 | 18 | 96.0 | 57 | 39 | 11 | 106 | 57 | 53 |
| Seth Maness | R | 28 | 56 | 0 | 54.7 | 34 | 12 | 6 | 59 | 27 | 25 |
| Kevin Herget | R | 26 | 47 | 0 | 67.0 | 56 | 26 | 8 | 66 | 33 | 31 |
| Jordan Schafer | L | 30 | 39 | 2 | 49.7 | 46 | 21 | 7 | 49 | 27 | 25 |
| Josh Lucas | R | 26 | 44 | 0 | 55.7 | 45 | 19 | 7 | 56 | 29 | 27 |
| Ryan Sherriff | L | 27 | 43 | 0 | 58.7 | 42 | 22 | 7 | 61 | 31 | 29 |
| Justin Wright | L | 27 | 48 | 0 | 53.7 | 42 | 28 | 6 | 53 | 29 | 27 |
| Jeremy Hefner | R | 31 | 16 | 16 | 78.3 | 60 | 30 | 14 | 84 | 49 | 46 |
| Kendry Flores | R | 24 | 26 | 22 | 113.7 | 82 | 41 | 19 | 125 | 70 | 65 |
| Trey Nielsen | R | 25 | 22 | 16 | 95.0 | 59 | 42 | 14 | 105 | 59 | 55 |
| Corey Littrell | L | 25 | 38 | 11 | 95.0 | 67 | 37 | 16 | 104 | 58 | 54 |
| Deck McGuire | R | 28 | 26 | 23 | 127.7 | 95 | 48 | 22 | 136 | 80 | 75 |
| Daniel Schlereth | L | 31 | 17 | 0 | 17.3 | 12 | 16 | 2 | 18 | 13 | 12 |
| Ronnie Shaban | R | 27 | 46 | 0 | 52.3 | 35 | 20 | 8 | 57 | 31 | 29 |
| Chris Perry | R | 26 | 42 | 0 | 53.7 | 54 | 44 | 6 | 49 | 32 | 30 |
| Jerome Williams | R | 35 | 24 | 12 | 87.7 | 52 | 26 | 15 | 101 | 58 | 54 |
| Chris Ellis | R | 24 | 26 | 26 | 131.0 | 106 | 84 | 18 | 133 | 86 | 80 |
| J.C. Sulbaran | R | 27 | 28 | 21 | 117.7 | 78 | 58 | 23 | 134 | 85 | 79 |
***
| Player | IP | TBF | K% | BB% | BABIP | ERA | FIP | ERA- | FIP- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Carlos Martinez | 192.0 | 815 | 22.3% | 8.0% | .289 | 3.33 | 3.63 | 81 | 88 |
| Adam Wainwright | 149.3 | 639 | 18.0% | 6.3% | .291 | 3.98 | 3.86 | 97 | 94 |
| Mike Leake | 173.7 | 740 | 16.2% | 5.1% | .290 | 4.15 | 4.04 | 102 | 98 |
| Alex Reyes | 121.3 | 530 | 26.4% | 11.9% | .294 | 3.86 | 3.82 | 94 | 93 |
| Lance Lynn | 98.0 | 427 | 20.4% | 8.9% | .294 | 3.77 | 3.93 | 92 | 95 |
| Luke Weaver | 115.7 | 491 | 20.2% | 5.7% | .298 | 3.97 | 3.82 | 97 | 92 |
| Michael Wacha | 138.3 | 597 | 19.6% | 7.5% | .291 | 4.16 | 3.95 | 102 | 96 |
| Seung Hwan Oh | 64.7 | 260 | 31.1% | 5.8% | .288 | 2.64 | 2.58 | 65 | 63 |
| Zach Duke | 55.3 | 236 | 25.4% | 10.2% | .285 | 3.09 | 3.49 | 76 | 85 |
| Miguel Socolovich | 61.3 | 257 | 24.5% | 8.2% | .283 | 3.23 | 3.22 | 79 | 78 |
| Brett Cecil | 47.3 | 196 | 30.1% | 7.7% | .302 | 3.04 | 2.74 | 74 | 66 |
| Tyler Lyons | 61.0 | 253 | 24.5% | 6.3% | .274 | 3.39 | 3.96 | 83 | 96 |
| Trevor Rosenthal | 58.7 | 259 | 28.2% | 12.4% | .315 | 3.37 | 3.49 | 82 | 85 |
| Kevin Siegrist | 60.3 | 258 | 27.1% | 10.9% | .274 | 3.58 | 3.98 | 88 | 96 |
| John Gant | 117.3 | 517 | 20.5% | 9.5% | .294 | 4.68 | 4.51 | 114 | 109 |
| Daniel Poncedeleon | 126.0 | 566 | 14.7% | 9.7% | .291 | 4.79 | 4.87 | 117 | 118 |
| Matthew Bowman | 68.0 | 289 | 19.0% | 7.3% | .283 | 3.71 | 3.64 | 91 | 88 |
| Sam Tuivailala | 61.3 | 268 | 26.9% | 11.9% | .297 | 3.67 | 3.68 | 90 | 89 |
| Marco Gonzales | 82.3 | 365 | 16.7% | 7.9% | .296 | 4.81 | 4.73 | 118 | 115 |
| Zach Phillips | 49.3 | 215 | 25.1% | 11.2% | .293 | 3.83 | 3.84 | 94 | 93 |
| Mike Mayers | 119.3 | 529 | 16.4% | 8.1% | .296 | 4.90 | 4.81 | 120 | 117 |
| Rowan Wick | 44.3 | 197 | 24.9% | 13.2% | .299 | 3.86 | 3.75 | 94 | 91 |
| Jonathan Broxton | 56.7 | 243 | 21.4% | 8.6% | .284 | 3.97 | 3.79 | 97 | 92 |
| Austin Gomber | 116.0 | 512 | 18.0% | 8.4% | .291 | 4.97 | 5.02 | 122 | 122 |
| Artie Reyes | 96.0 | 433 | 13.2% | 9.0% | .296 | 4.97 | 4.83 | 122 | 117 |
| Seth Maness | 54.7 | 235 | 14.5% | 5.1% | .291 | 4.12 | 3.92 | 101 | 95 |
| Kevin Herget | 67.0 | 293 | 19.1% | 8.9% | .291 | 4.16 | 4.32 | 102 | 105 |
| Jordan Schafer | 49.7 | 219 | 21.0% | 9.6% | .294 | 4.53 | 4.55 | 111 | 110 |
| Josh Lucas | 55.7 | 242 | 18.6% | 7.8% | .291 | 4.37 | 4.23 | 107 | 102 |
| Ryan Sherriff | 58.7 | 259 | 16.2% | 8.5% | .292 | 4.45 | 4.53 | 109 | 110 |
| Justin Wright | 53.7 | 242 | 17.3% | 11.6% | .288 | 4.53 | 4.75 | 111 | 115 |
| Jeremy Hefner | 78.3 | 349 | 17.2% | 8.6% | .291 | 5.29 | 5.20 | 129 | 126 |
| Kendry Flores | 113.7 | 507 | 16.2% | 8.1% | .296 | 5.15 | 5.16 | 126 | 125 |
| Trey Nielsen | 95.0 | 432 | 13.7% | 9.7% | .293 | 5.21 | 5.34 | 127 | 129 |
| Corey Littrell | 95.0 | 426 | 15.7% | 8.7% | .293 | 5.12 | 5.29 | 125 | 128 |
| Deck McGuire | 127.7 | 567 | 16.8% | 8.5% | .289 | 5.29 | 5.14 | 129 | 124 |
| Daniel Schlereth | 17.3 | 86 | 14.0% | 18.6% | .291 | 6.23 | 6.08 | 152 | 147 |
| Ronnie Shaban | 52.3 | 234 | 15.0% | 8.6% | .292 | 4.99 | 4.93 | 122 | 119 |
| Chris Perry | 53.7 | 254 | 21.3% | 17.3% | .294 | 5.03 | 5.25 | 123 | 127 |
| Jerome Williams | 87.7 | 390 | 13.3% | 6.7% | .294 | 5.54 | 5.22 | 136 | 126 |
| Chris Ellis | 131.0 | 610 | 17.4% | 13.8% | .291 | 5.50 | 5.42 | 135 | 131 |
| J.C. Sulbaran | 117.7 | 545 | 14.3% | 10.6% | .293 | 6.04 | 6.03 | 148 | 146 |
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| Player | IP | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | ERA+ | zWAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Carlos Martinez | 192.0 | 8.53 | 3.05 | 0.84 | 119 | 4.2 | Kevin Brown |
| Adam Wainwright | 149.3 | 6.93 | 2.41 | 0.96 | 100 | 2.1 | Bob Walk |
| Mike Leake | 173.7 | 6.22 | 1.97 | 1.04 | 96 | 2.0 | Lary Sorensen |
| Alex Reyes | 121.3 | 10.39 | 4.67 | 0.89 | 103 | 1.8 | Kerry Wood |
| Lance Lynn | 98.0 | 7.99 | 3.49 | 0.92 | 105 | 1.6 | Wade Miller |
| Luke Weaver | 115.7 | 7.70 | 2.18 | 1.01 | 100 | 1.6 | Joe Blanton |
| Michael Wacha | 138.3 | 7.61 | 2.93 | 1.04 | 95 | 1.6 | Shawn Boskie |
| Seung Hwan Oh | 64.7 | 11.27 | 2.09 | 0.83 | 150 | 1.3 | Trevor Hoffman |
| Zach Duke | 55.3 | 9.76 | 3.91 | 0.81 | 128 | 0.8 | Scott Eyre |
| Miguel Socolovich | 61.3 | 9.25 | 3.08 | 0.73 | 123 | 0.8 | Danny Kolb |
| Brett Cecil | 47.3 | 11.23 | 2.85 | 0.76 | 130 | 0.7 | George Sherrill |
| Tyler Lyons | 61.0 | 9.15 | 2.36 | 1.33 | 117 | 0.6 | Gabe White |
| Trevor Rosenthal | 58.7 | 11.19 | 4.91 | 0.77 | 118 | 0.6 | Jim Kern |
| Kevin Siegrist | 60.3 | 10.45 | 4.18 | 1.19 | 111 | 0.5 | Ron Villone |
| John Gant | 117.3 | 8.13 | 3.76 | 1.23 | 85 | 0.5 | Pedro Liriano |
| Daniel Poncedeleon | 126.0 | 5.93 | 3.93 | 1.07 | 83 | 0.4 | Ken Pumphrey |
| Matthew Bowman | 68.0 | 7.28 | 2.78 | 0.79 | 107 | 0.4 | Brandon League |
| Sam Tuivailala | 61.3 | 10.57 | 4.70 | 0.88 | 108 | 0.4 | Ryan Bukvich |
| Marco Gonzales | 82.3 | 6.67 | 3.17 | 1.31 | 82 | 0.3 | Chris Waters |
| Zach Phillips | 49.3 | 9.86 | 4.38 | 0.91 | 104 | 0.2 | Arnold Earley |
| Mike Mayers | 119.3 | 6.56 | 3.24 | 1.28 | 81 | 0.2 | Derek Lowe |
| Rowan Wick | 44.3 | 9.95 | 5.28 | 0.61 | 103 | 0.2 | Mark Littell |
| Jonathan Broxton | 56.7 | 8.25 | 3.33 | 0.95 | 100 | 0.2 | Pete Walker |
| Austin Gomber | 116.0 | 7.14 | 3.34 | 1.47 | 80 | 0.1 | Anthony Ward |
| Artie Reyes | 96.0 | 5.34 | 3.66 | 1.03 | 80 | 0.1 | Jake Joseph |
| Seth Maness | 54.7 | 5.59 | 1.97 | 0.99 | 96 | 0.1 | Casey Cox |
| Kevin Herget | 67.0 | 7.52 | 3.49 | 1.07 | 95 | 0.0 | Brian Rose |
| Jordan Schafer | 49.7 | 8.33 | 3.80 | 1.27 | 88 | -0.1 | Scott Watkins |
| Josh Lucas | 55.7 | 7.27 | 3.07 | 1.13 | 91 | -0.1 | Andy Larkin |
| Ryan Sherriff | 58.7 | 6.44 | 3.37 | 1.07 | 89 | -0.2 | Anthony Ferrari |
| Justin Wright | 53.7 | 7.04 | 4.69 | 1.01 | 88 | -0.2 | Dean Brueggemann |
| Jeremy Hefner | 78.3 | 6.90 | 3.45 | 1.61 | 75 | -0.2 | Chris Rojas |
| Kendry Flores | 113.7 | 6.49 | 3.25 | 1.50 | 76 | -0.2 | Dustin Moseley |
| Trey Nielsen | 95.0 | 5.59 | 3.98 | 1.33 | 76 | -0.2 | Kevin Hodges |
| Corey Littrell | 95.0 | 6.35 | 3.51 | 1.52 | 78 | -0.4 | Jeff Hundley |
| Deck McGuire | 127.7 | 6.70 | 3.38 | 1.55 | 75 | -0.4 | Kip Bouknight |
| Daniel Schlereth | 17.3 | 6.24 | 8.32 | 1.04 | 64 | -0.4 | Mike Barlow |
| Ronnie Shaban | 52.3 | 6.02 | 3.44 | 1.38 | 80 | -0.5 | Rick Berg |
| Chris Perry | 53.7 | 9.05 | 7.37 | 1.01 | 79 | -0.6 | Bill Bene |
| Jerome Williams | 87.7 | 5.34 | 2.67 | 1.54 | 72 | -0.7 | Jim Barr |
| Chris Ellis | 131.0 | 7.28 | 5.77 | 1.24 | 72 | -0.7 | Ivan Montane |
| J.C. Sulbaran | 117.7 | 5.96 | 4.44 | 1.76 | 66 | -1.5 | Giovanni Carrara |
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Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2017. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.
Players are listed with their most recent teams unless Dan has made a mistake. This is very possible as a lot of minor-league signings are generally unreported in the offseason.
ZiPS is projecting based on the AL having a 4.05 ERA and the NL having a 3.97 ERA.
Players that are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information and a computer isn’t what should be projecting the injury status of, for example, a pitcher with Tommy John surgery.
Regarding ERA+ vs. ERA- (and FIP+ vs. FIP-) and the differences therein: as Patriot notes here, they are not simply mirror images of each other. Writes Patriot: “ERA+ does not tell you that a pitcher’s ERA was X% less or more than the league’s ERA. It tells you that the league’s ERA was X% less or more than the pitcher’s ERA.”
Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in full release of ZiPS. Finally, Szymborski will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on depth chart to produce projected team WAR.
Carson Cistulli has published a book of aphorisms called Spirited Ejaculations of a New Enthusiast.

This is the most Cardinals projection ever. Everyone is good, but none of the projections are outstanding or interesting. And of course they have enough promising young player projections that one or two will step up and become a star and they will be good again. If not for the Cubs juggernaut, I could see them rolling over the division again.
Rarely do teams roll over their divisions with ~87 win teams.
Pro-rating the WAR totals to 600 PA’s and 180 IP, we get the club easily clearing 90 wins.
Martinez 4.0; Diaz 3.2; Carpenter, Piscotty, Fowler, Lance Lynn and Gyorko 3.0 each; Wong 2.9; Reyes 2.7; Wainwright, Weaver, and Grichuk 2.5 apiece. And so on.
The key to projecting beyond 90 wins is depth rather than frontline talent, as Carson alluded to. The #4 outfielder, both backup infielders, and the numbers 6 and 7 starting pitchers all project as 2+ WAR contributors in full-time roles.
The top 9 potential bullpen arms are uniformly above average as well, with projected FIP- rates of 63, 66, 78, 85, 88, 89, 92, 96, and another 96. (Their projected ERA- numbers are actually even better.)
In terms of wins above average, the bullpen and bench should be worth 1-2 apiece, the rotation roughly 4 more, and the starting eight another 6 or 7. All told, that’s 12-15 wins above average, or 93-96 victories. A bit too rich for me, but I’d bet on 91-93 wins.
The problem with this approach is that you aren’t getting 600 PA’s / 180 IP for some of these guys. Wong can’t lefties and will be platooned, and never exceeded 2.3 war. Gyorko has never exceeded 525 PA and 2.4 war. Weaver has never pitched 130 innings in a season, and Reyes has only broken 140 if you count his time in AZ following his suspension.
I get what you’re saying. I obviously did a poor job of making my point re depth.
I’m saying that because there is in most cases so very little WAR dropoff from the StL starters to the depth guys, hitters and pitchers can therefore both be projected more “aggressively” — to 600/180, for instance.
Case in point: if their #2 starting pitcher goes down in Spring Training, the #6 guy represents less than a 1 WAR loss over 180 innings. Then if the #3 arm comes up lame in April, there’s barely half a win projected dropoff to the #7 starter over the next 5+ months.
Same with Wong, Gyorko, Peralta, and Greg Garcia on the infield. Since each projects at 2.1 to 3.0 WAR per 600 PA’s, it’s reasonable to figure the keystone + hotcorner will provide ~5 WAR, and the leftover bench AB’s should be high quality; nearly as high in fact as Carpenter & Diaz are projected to provide at 1B and SS.
Finally, there’s less that a 1 WAR dropoff from the #1 outfielder to the best bench guy — who’s capable of manning all three OF positions without embarrassing himself.
Or just think of it this way. If every starting pitcher and every man in a hypothetical Team X’s starting lineup projected as a 2-WAR guy, you’d have a below average team as soon as anyone got hurt, assuming the bench guys and rotation depth were of typical MLB quality. But if the bench guys and rotation depth were *also* projected to be 2-WAR talent, the injuries would theoretically be completely irrelevant.
Per ZiPS, the St. Louis roster appears to be a modified version of Team X, so to speak.
Just a quick correction on the IF situation: Peralta is not expected to play 2B under any scenario. The platoons should be Wong/Gyorko at 2B and Peralta/Gyorko at 3B.
this may be a case of projecting Gyorko to start every day, and for simplicity’s sake, expressing it as a Wong/Peralta platoon
I certainly hope we don’t need Gyorko to start nearly everyday again. He only did so out of necessity last year. A one dimensional hitter who plays below average defense is better off as a part-time player at best.
How is JJ Davis, a negative WAR player with a lifetime ISO under .100 a comp for Randal Grichuk? Is this Bizarro world?
The J.J. Davis comp is 100% intended by ZiPS. I’ll leave the why to you since the mystery is easier to solve than a Slylock Fox.
That is frankly ridiculous. They share no characteristics. ok, so maybe ZIPS thinks Grichuk sucks, fine, but this comp is plain stupid and indefensible. Sit in your ivory tower and be obtuse, that is your right, but acting like this is somehow profound is ludicrous. At least find a high power, low walk CF who plays passable defense. JJ Davis isnt even a AAAA player, Grichuk at the very least will stick around a few years as a bench player.
I for one thought it would take longer to go from “Get out of your mom’s basement” to “Sit in your ivory tower”.
You spent more time on this post than actually researching your question.
I don’t understand the fretting. Grichuk is projected as a nice, boring, slightly above average MLB regular — distinctly worse than his MLB track record to date, but far from unreasonable.
By concentrating on his comp you’re fixating on the hole and not seeing the doughnut. ZiPS is saying the doughnut tastes fine.
Well, I’m stumped and curious what the answer is. My only guess was that J.J. Davis was famously drafted right before some great player, but I don’t think anybody would count Michael Cuddyer a Trout level missed opportunity…
Is it related to the K and BB rates? Both swing at over half of their pitches, get a lot of strikeouts, and don’t walk a lot. Neither brings much to the table defensively either.
Um, Grichuk is just fine defensively. He’s about average in CF and above-average in the corners.
Yeah, I guess “neither beings much to the table” was bad phrasing, but I meant both were just around average, nothing special.
BFIB, LOL!
Dear Baseball Gods: Please make Carlos Martinez = Kevin Brown happen.
Why is Peralta listed as a 2nd Baseman? There is zero chance he plays there in 2017. He’ll be manning 3rd and if he struggles him and Gyorko will likely split time.
I see you Dickie Joe Thon. Tried to escape from the 1899 Cleveland Spiders.
#FreeWilfredoTovar
Free him to do what – designated fielder?
*floats by on a tommy pham shaped inflatable raft*
‘sup
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I don’t think that’s called a “raft”.
no it’s definitely just a raft
I guess if you’re going to be infested with anything, it could be a lot worse than to be infested with competence.
I am always vaguely disappointed in Carpenter’s projections.
Here are Carpenter’s OPS ranking in MLB in his first(full seasons) and last 4, 2016-4th, 2015-3rd, 2014-12th, and 2013-3rd. Yeah he is consistently under-projected.
Good point, but he wasn’t THAT high in the MLB OPS rankings….he was 21st in 2016 and 17th in 2015. Not sure where you are getting your numbers from.
Carpenter IS 14th in wRC+ in MLB over the last two seasons, though, just below J.D. Martinez and just above Jose Altuve. That’s nothing to sneeze at.
As 3rd basemen, of course.
I’m happy to see that one of my favorite teams, the Bucs, are not running so far behind the 3 NL WC faves. With addition of one of the remaining 1B/LF FA’s and following Nick’s advice to the Mets about bolstering the pen, they could compete.
The phrase “infested with competence” is now a personal favorite. I should use it on my workmates. They wont’ know if I’m insulting them or not.
The fact that it’s 2017 and Jerome Williams is still on a “Pitchers, Assorted Other” projection chart is astounding to me.
Yeah, there are definitely some issues with the playing projections. As you mentioned, there is no such 2nd base platoon, and Lynn’s innings shouldn’t be discounted like that when he’ll be nearly a year and a half removed from TJS. The plan is for Wong to start at 2B (including against several lefties) and Peralta at 3B with Gyorko being a utility guy. Furthermore, it remains to be seen whether Wacha or Reyes will get more IP in the rotation, and Kelly is only the fourth catcher on the depth chart behind Molina, Fryer, and Rosario. Also, Duke probably won’t pitch a single inning due to injury, and Moss, Pena, and Maness aren’t even on the team anymore!
I think it specifies at the top that it’s the player’s most recent team, is where they’ll appear (none of those three have retired or signed elsewhere yet).
Overall, this appears to be a very volatile team. It reminds me of the projections for the 2004 Cardinals, especially in the starting rotation. A lot of things could go right and they win 100+ games like that 2004 team did, or several things could go wrong and they wallow in third place like that 2004 team was projected to do.
In the rotation, has Martinez reached his peak, or will he get even better? Will Wainwright bounce back to be a strong #2 starter after figuring out his mechanics, or was his disappointing 2016 more a sign of decline. Will Leake bounce back to his usual performance level after his really poor off year? Will Lynn return to somewhere close to his excellent production from 2014-15 after missing last year to TJS? Will Wacha’s arm hold up and allow him to perform like he did for most of 2015, or is he only a decent swingman now? Will Reyes be able to follow up on his excellent performance down the stretch and make a run for RotY, or will he struggle for a while and continue to have command problems as the league adjusts to him? Is Weaver now ready for the Show, or is he only a fill-in bullpen piece or AAAA pitcher? Will Cooney and/or Gonzales recover their high prospect stock now that they’re healthy? Will Lyons return to being an effective swingman once he hopefully returns from his injury midseason?
Cooney now plays for the Native Americans.
On the other side of the ball: Will Molina continue being a quality workhorse on both sides of the ball and maybe bounce back to Gold Glove caliber defense, or is he defense now in decline while his offense soon follows and he needs a lot more days off? Will Wong have a breakout year at the plate and hit lefties better, or will he continue to be a maddeningly inconsistent player with promise? Will Diaz take a step forward from his excellent rookie year or suffer through a sophomore slump while his defense fails to improve? Will Peralta bounce back to his usual level now that he’s healthy, or was his bad year more a product of decline than his bad thumb? Will Gyorko get enough playing time to approach 30 homers again due to inconsistent play elsewhere on the infield, or will he be mostly be a bench player like a very one dimensional hitter like him deserves to be? Will Adams perform at the plate when he gets his opportunities and perhaps even improve against lefties, or will he cement his status as a bench and/or platoon player? Which is the real Grichuk, the one who raked in 2015 and the last two months of 2016, or the inconsistent hitter who required two demotions to AAA over the first four months of 2016? Will Fowler perform closer to his 2016 career year or the more ordinary years he’s had in his career? Is Piscotty near his ceiling, or will he breakout further and become an All-Star caliber player? As for Carpenter, he’s money just as long as he stays healthy all year.
Yes, no, no, yes, no, no, yes, no, no, yes, no, yes, a little of each, no, yes, almost, and no.
Damn, the decline of Matt Carpenter is coming now according to ZiPS. Was on pace for a career year all-around last year until he hurt oblique and came back too early in the second half.
Nah, he just never gets a very good projection.