2019 ZiPS Projections – San Diego Padres

After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for more than half a decade. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the San Diego Padres.

Batters

There’s no way to talk about the Padres’ offense while ignoring the elephant in the room, San Diego’s big infield acquisition this winter. I’m talking, of course, about Ian Kinsler, who remains one of the most underrated players in baseball. The last time Kinsler failed to put up two WAR in a season was 2006, and even as his bat has declined — to a wRC+ of 93 in 2017 and 87 in 2018 — his glove has continued to add a whole win to his bottom line. He’s a really good transitional pickup as the Padres shift towards their Luis Urias/Fernando Tatis-based future.

Oh, right, you probably want to hear about the other dude! Manny Machado projects better as a third baseman than as a shortstop. Simply put, based on his age, his brief history at short and more lengthy one at third base, and a few other indicators — when you know nothing about a player, generalized speed data does have a relationship with defensive performance — Machado played worse defense at shortstop than ZiPS projected going into 2018. While we’d need to see a few years of him back at third to know whether this was due to a general defensive decline on his part or something shortstop-specific, ZiPS believes he’s a bit more valuable at third right now.

Overall, the projections for the Padres indicate a strong group of position players, no matter how the playing time actually sorts out in 2019. I know I rag on Eric Hosmer’s contract, but from a pure baseball standpoint rather than one of efficiency, if first base is really San Diego’s biggest lineup problem, the team’s probably in a good place.

Pitchers and Prospects (For this team, they’re inseparable!)

At least in the projections, the pitching is what’s currently preventing San Diego from being a serious wild card contender. Machado gets them to the periphery — close enough to .500 that them throwing up a wild card year like the Twins did in 2017 isn’t actually that crazy — but it’s still more likely than not that they’re playing for pride in September rather than the playoffs.

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But that’s OK. Machado, like Harper, is a special player, the sort that is hard to develop yourself, so immediately contending with him isn’t as crucial as it would be for a more traditional rental. After all, he’s sticking around and will still be quite young come 2020. And San Diego has a very deep cadre of pitchers on the farm, most of whom ZiPS is very optimistic about long-term. While the rotation WAR totals you’ll see in the depth chart are relatively low, that’s more a function of the low number of projected innings than of the pitchers actually struggling.

After Joey Lucchesi, who I believe ought to be considered an established No. 2 or 3 starter, ZiPS already projects seven other young pitchers to have an ERA+ at least in the high 80s right now (96 is historically about league-average for a starter): Logan Allen, Jacob Nix, Chris Paddack, Eric Lauer, Brett Kennedy, Jesse Scholtens, and Dinelson Lamet, with the last returning from injury sometime this summer. That still doesn’t include MacKenzie Gore, who didn’t receive an official 2019 projection (I don’t like giving pitcher projections for individual seasons until guys have some time at Double-A). Gore is ranked as the No. 22 prospect on Eric Longenhagen and Kiley McDaniel’s 2019 Top 100 list, and Luis Patino, Adrian Morejon, and Anderson Espinoza, who ranked in Eric and Kiley’s top 132, haven’t yet received official projections.

In other words, while the Padres 2019 pitching staff is likely to be unimpressive, the weight of talent coming up from the minors is such that even if There Is No Such Thing As A Pitching Prospect, the problem ought to resolve itself in the next couple of years.

That said, looking at the Padres projections, Machado pulls the team close enough that you wonder if they should try to add a short-term starting pitcher. Extra wins here are quite valuable; if Dallas Keuchel isn’t finding this year’s market to his liking, perhaps there’s a number he would accept on a one-year contract. Because at least as ZiPS goes, if you could tempt Keuchel with one-year and $25 million, or with some other one-or-two-or-three year deal, this roster would project as the second-place team in the NL West, over the Colorado Rockies.

As for the bullpen, ZiPS isn’t that much more excited than it is for the rotation. The Padres have wrung a lot out of their bullpen and done so cheaply, getting some good performances even while rebuilding, but they also traded away Brad Hand, Adam Cimber, and Ryan Buchter over the last 18 months or so, which does make the group weaker than it would be otherwise. I won’t fault San Diego for that, simply because the process of sorting out the rotation will likely help sort out the bullpen as well, and because pre-Machado, 2020 and 2021 were better targets for contention than 2019 was.

One pedantic note for 2019: for the WAR graphic, I’m using FanGraphs’ Depth Charts playing time, not the playing time ZiPS spits out, so there will be occasional differences in WAR totals.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site.

Batters – Counting Stats
Player B Age PO G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS
Manny Machado R 26 3B 156 613 87 172 35 2 32 97 65 111 12 3
Luis Urias R 22 2B 132 509 67 125 24 6 7 47 61 116 4 2
Franmil Reyes R 23 RF 143 496 74 128 21 1 28 79 53 152 1 2
Manuel Margot R 24 CF 142 524 61 136 26 9 10 53 37 100 16 9
Wil Myers R 28 LF 128 478 71 119 27 3 23 73 54 150 19 4
Ian Kinsler R 37 2B 115 446 64 110 23 1 12 39 40 63 13 6
Hunter Renfroe R 27 RF 134 498 63 124 27 2 27 81 30 142 3 1
Eric Hosmer L 29 1B 154 586 80 157 28 2 20 81 62 128 7 3
Francisco Mejia B 23 C 131 477 55 119 25 2 14 50 28 100 1 1
Austin Hedges R 26 C 108 355 38 82 17 1 16 52 22 103 3 1
Christian Villanueva R 28 3B 108 377 59 90 18 1 17 54 27 104 3 1
Fernando Tatis R 20 SS 110 438 60 97 19 4 18 57 40 163 16 8
Travis Jankowski L 28 CF 125 392 51 96 14 3 4 22 42 98 23 8
Franchy Cordero L 24 LF 96 362 50 89 15 5 15 53 29 144 13 4
Ty France R 24 3B 138 522 66 124 26 2 15 63 37 116 3 4
Esteban Quiroz B 27 2B 74 252 43 63 12 1 9 34 26 53 3 2
Jose Pirela B 29 2B 131 431 54 111 24 3 9 42 31 85 6 4
Michael Gettys R 23 CF 124 457 53 92 18 3 17 54 32 203 15 7
Greg Garcia L 29 2B 122 254 28 61 11 1 3 20 35 58 4 2
Chase Headley B 35 3B 123 412 50 99 19 1 7 41 45 110 4 2
Jason Vosler L 25 3B 128 470 55 98 21 2 15 50 41 158 1 1
Austin Allen L 25 C 119 460 54 109 22 1 16 56 30 125 0 2
Seth Mejias-Brean R 28 3B 124 459 48 105 16 3 8 41 35 112 4 3
Hudson Potts R 20 3B 132 514 60 107 23 2 20 63 33 192 3 1
Alex Dickerson L 29 LF 94 316 41 78 18 3 9 41 24 72 3 0
A.J. Ellis R 38 C 55 135 15 31 6 0 2 12 18 34 0 0
Boog Powell L 26 CF 78 282 36 69 9 2 3 20 30 61 9 8
Josh Naylor L 22 LF 130 518 64 130 22 2 15 62 48 98 6 4
Allen Craig R 34 1B 80 275 30 61 10 1 6 24 29 74 0 0
Javy Guerra L 23 SS 139 461 46 88 17 8 12 50 28 185 2 0
Diego Goris R 28 3B 104 372 37 86 16 1 7 37 16 92 3 2
River Stevens L 27 2B 78 270 28 61 9 2 4 23 20 55 6 3
Edward Olivares R 23 CF 130 546 62 123 21 8 12 55 25 133 13 8
Forrestt Allday R 28 RF 108 380 44 87 14 2 2 25 42 83 8 6
Webster Rivas R 28 C 59 206 19 46 8 1 3 17 11 56 1 1
Dusty Coleman R 32 3B 99 319 31 54 13 1 10 32 20 154 7 4
Connor Panas L 26 RF 106 378 40 75 12 2 11 36 27 124 3 3
Jacob Scavuzzo R 25 LF 108 398 45 88 19 1 14 46 22 137 7 2
Taylor Kohlwey L 24 RF 92 296 30 57 10 5 6 27 25 105 5 4
Allen Cordoba R 23 SS 77 203 17 39 4 2 4 17 10 66 3 5
Chris Stewart R 37 C 49 134 12 26 4 1 0 7 11 21 0 1
Luis Torrens R 23 C 129 459 44 106 25 2 6 46 24 95 1 1
Aderlin Rodriguez R 27 1B 130 499 55 117 20 2 16 59 23 132 1 1
Eguy Rosario R 19 2B 126 492 49 96 20 3 8 42 35 160 13 11
Buddy Reed B 24 LF 112 448 43 87 18 5 9 42 26 172 24 9

 

Batters – Rate Stats
Player PA BA OBP SLG OPS+ ISO BABIP RC/27 Def WAR No. 1 Comp
Manny Machado 686 .281 .348 .501 129 .220 .298 6.7 4 5.7 Adrian Beltre
Luis Urias 586 .246 .335 .358 90 .112 .306 4.3 8 2.7 Willy Aybar
Franmil Reyes 554 .258 .330 .474 116 .216 .316 5.6 -1 2.4 Ron Swoboda
Manuel Margot 570 .260 .308 .401 92 .141 .304 4.5 8 2.4 Marquis Grissom
Wil Myers 539 .249 .327 .462 113 .213 .315 5.7 -1 2.4 Ryan Raburn
Ian Kinsler 492 .247 .315 .383 90 .137 .264 4.4 8 2.3 Ray Durham
Hunter Renfroe 536 .249 .295 .474 105 .225 .295 5.0 4 2.1 Dante Bichette
Eric Hosmer 652 .268 .337 .425 107 .157 .313 5.3 0 2.0 Carlos May
Francisco Mejia 519 .249 .296 .398 88 .149 .289 4.2 3 1.9 Miguel Montero
Austin Hedges 384 .231 .277 .420 87 .189 .280 4.1 6 1.8 Chris Widger
Christian Villanueva 414 .239 .298 .427 95 .188 .285 4.5 1 1.5 Vinny Castilla
Fernando Tatis 486 .221 .292 .406 88 .185 .307 4.1 -1 1.5 B.J. Upton
Travis Jankowski 440 .245 .323 .327 79 .082 .317 4.0 5 1.4 Alex Cole
Franchy Cordero 395 .246 .305 .439 100 .193 .365 4.9 1 1.3 Al Martin
Ty France 586 .238 .313 .381 89 .144 .279 4.1 -3 1.3 Garrett Atkins
Esteban Quiroz 286 .250 .330 .413 102 .163 .284 4.9 0 1.2 Heinie Mueller
Jose Pirela 468 .258 .310 .390 90 .132 .303 4.4 -4 0.9 Steve Lyons
Michael Gettys 497 .201 .261 .365 69 .164 .316 3.2 8 0.9 Jeramy Laster
Greg Garcia 298 .240 .342 .327 85 .087 .301 4.0 0 0.8 Ed Giovanola
Chase Headley 467 .240 .321 .342 82 .102 .312 3.9 -2 0.7 Greg Gagne
Jason Vosler 524 .209 .282 .357 74 .149 .279 3.4 3 0.6 Tim Gillis
Austin Allen 498 .237 .289 .393 84 .157 .292 3.9 -7 0.6 Randy Knorr
Seth Mejias-Brean 502 .229 .289 .329 69 .100 .286 3.3 6 0.6 Brian Hitchcox
Hudson Potts 554 .208 .262 .377 72 .169 .288 3.4 2 0.5 Corey Smith
Alex Dickerson 349 .247 .307 .408 93 .161 .294 4.6 -2 0.4 Stu Pederson
A.J. Ellis 159 .230 .331 .319 79 .089 .293 3.7 -2 0.2 Spud Davis
Boog Powell 318 .245 .317 .323 76 .078 .303 3.4 -1 0.2 Jonathan Jay
Josh Naylor 573 .251 .318 .388 92 .137 .284 4.4 -7 0.1 Brett Roneberg
Allen Craig 309 .222 .301 .331 73 .109 .282 3.5 3 0.0 Chris Pritchett
Javy Guerra 495 .191 .237 .341 55 .150 .288 2.7 5 0.0 Yuri Sanchez
Diego Goris 392 .231 .264 .336 63 .105 .289 3.1 4 0.0 Jace Brewer
River Stevens 298 .226 .285 .319 65 .093 .270 3.2 0 -0.1 Joey Aragon
Edward Olivares 583 .225 .268 .359 70 .134 .277 3.3 -1 -0.1 Joe Mathis
Forrestt Allday 435 .229 .317 .292 69 .063 .288 3.1 2 -0.2 Mike Bucci
Webster Rivas 220 .223 .265 .316 58 .092 .293 2.9 -2 -0.3 Tony Eusebio
Dusty Coleman 346 .169 .226 .310 45 .141 .284 2.2 7 -0.4 Trace Coquillette
Connor Panas 415 .198 .265 .328 61 .130 .263 2.8 5 -0.5 Garrick Haltiwanger
Jacob Scavuzzo 428 .221 .269 .379 75 .158 .300 3.6 -3 -0.6 Steve Gibralter
Taylor Kohlwey 331 .193 .265 .321 59 .128 .276 2.7 2 -0.6 Larry Blackwell
Allen Cordoba 219 .192 .239 .291 44 .099 .263 2.0 0 -0.7 Brian Shipp
Chris Stewart 149 .194 .259 .239 38 .045 .230 1.9 -2 -0.7 Rick Ferrell
Luis Torrens 493 .231 .272 .333 65 .102 .279 3.2 -9 -0.8 Humberto Cota
Aderlin Rodriguez 532 .234 .274 .379 76 .144 .288 3.6 -2 -0.8 Danny Matienzo
Eguy Rosario 534 .195 .257 .297 51 .102 .272 2.4 -2 -1.5 Andy Sheets
Buddy Reed 481 .194 .240 .317 51 .123 .292 2.7 -2 -1.9 Julio Ramirez

 

Pitchers – Counting Stats
Player T Age W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO
Joey Lucchesi L 26 9 9 3.93 26 26 128.3 125 56 16 43 128
Jesse Scholtens R 25 8 9 4.44 27 24 133.7 144 66 17 41 99
Matt Strahm L 27 5 4 3.65 43 10 79.0 70 32 10 29 91
Garrett Richards R 31 6 6 4.18 19 19 97.0 88 45 12 45 100
Dinelson Lamet R 26 7 8 4.19 22 22 105.3 97 49 14 49 120
Logan Allen L 22 9 10 4.56 25 24 130.3 127 66 17 62 122
Jacob Nix R 23 6 7 4.24 19 19 99.7 106 47 13 25 81
Chris Paddack R 23 5 5 4.07 16 16 79.7 77 36 12 19 82
Eric Lauer L 24 7 8 4.59 27 26 129.3 135 66 18 53 115
Brett Kennedy R 24 7 8 4.49 23 23 118.3 123 59 16 41 98
Robbie Erlin L 28 5 6 4.18 33 13 99.0 104 46 14 18 77
Kirby Yates R 32 4 3 3.37 59 0 56.0 45 21 8 20 79
Craig Stammen R 35 4 4 3.58 59 0 65.3 60 26 7 19 65
Luis Perdomo R 26 7 10 4.69 26 23 126.7 143 66 15 49 97
Jose Castillo L 23 5 4 3.58 58 0 60.3 49 24 6 29 75
Pedro Avila R 22 6 9 4.80 24 21 123.7 126 66 16 63 109
Dietrich Enns L 28 7 10 4.96 23 20 107.0 113 59 14 53 81
Phil Maton R 26 2 2 3.79 57 0 61.7 56 26 8 22 70
Cal Quantrill R 24 6 9 5.07 26 26 136.7 154 77 20 55 95
Bryan Mitchell R 28 4 5 4.89 23 15 88.3 97 48 11 41 61
Kazuhisa Makita R 34 2 2 3.95 46 0 54.7 55 24 6 16 43
Michel Baez R 23 6 8 4.90 20 20 93.7 96 51 13 49 85
Brad Wieck L 27 3 3 3.91 49 0 50.7 41 22 6 29 66
Emmanuel Ramirez R 24 6 8 4.83 29 15 104.3 109 56 15 47 95
Dillon Overton L 27 5 7 5.05 25 17 101.7 117 57 16 33 66
Elliot Ashbeck R 25 4 4 4.16 40 1 67.0 68 31 7 22 54
Eric Stout L 26 3 4 4.41 43 2 63.3 68 31 6 25 42
Carlos Torres R 36 4 4 4.07 51 0 59.7 58 27 7 26 55
Jonathan Aro R 28 3 3 4.24 36 0 46.7 46 22 5 20 40
Fernando Rodriguez Jr. R 35 2 3 4.73 31 4 51.3 49 27 8 25 51
Ryan Bollinger L 28 6 8 5.24 20 20 99.7 111 58 15 42 70
Phil Hughes R 33 3 4 5.23 20 9 63.7 75 37 14 13 47
Robert Stock R 29 2 3 4.39 55 0 65.7 64 32 7 33 63
Trevor Megill R 25 1 2 4.86 25 0 33.3 35 18 6 12 31
Carter Capps R 28 1 2 4.71 31 0 36.3 35 19 5 20 35
Trey Wingenter R 25 2 3 4.53 59 0 57.7 49 29 8 36 72
Kyle McGrath L 26 3 4 4.67 46 0 54.0 55 28 9 18 47
Travis Radke L 26 3 4 4.95 38 3 67.3 71 37 12 22 61
Andres Munoz R 20 1 2 5.66 26 0 20.7 19 13 3 21 24
Jerry Keel L 25 5 9 5.29 26 21 126.0 143 74 21 48 86
Erik Johnson R 29 5 8 5.50 24 14 90.0 97 55 16 42 76
Seth Simmons R 31 2 4 5.45 28 8 66.0 71 40 11 36 56
Gerardo Reyes R 26 2 3 5.19 45 0 52.0 50 30 6 39 50
Todd Van Steensel R 28 3 4 5.44 33 1 46.3 45 28 6 34 44
Miguel Diaz R 24 4 6 5.44 35 10 82.7 79 50 13 59 86
Tyler Higgins R 28 2 2 5.36 33 0 45.3 51 27 8 15 34
Colby Blueberg R 26 3 4 5.26 40 0 53.0 53 31 8 32 49

 

Pitchers – Rate Stats
Player TBF K/9 BB/9 HR/9 BABIP ERA+ ERA- FIP WAR No. 1 Comp
Joey Lucchesi 549 8.98 3.02 1.12 .305 101 99 3.90 1.7 Steve Trout
Jesse Scholtens 584 6.67 2.76 1.14 .303 92 109 4.42 1.2 Ron Reed
Matt Strahm 335 10.37 3.30 1.14 .299 112 89 3.74 1.2 Steve Hamilton
Garrett Richards 420 9.28 4.18 1.11 .291 98 102 4.15 1.2 Russ Ortiz
Dinelson Lamet 461 10.25 4.19 1.20 .305 95 106 4.17 1.1 Mike Bielecki
Logan Allen 578 8.42 4.28 1.17 .297 90 111 4.56 1.0 Bill Krueger
Jacob Nix 429 7.31 2.26 1.17 .306 93 107 4.15 0.9 Rick Wise
Chris Paddack 335 9.26 2.15 1.36 .300 98 103 3.95 0.9 Jeff Weaver
Eric Lauer 574 8.00 3.69 1.25 .307 89 112 4.57 0.9 Jake Chapman
Brett Kennedy 516 7.45 3.12 1.22 .301 88 113 4.44 0.8 Shawn Hill
Robbie Erlin 414 7.00 1.64 1.27 .297 95 105 4.04 0.8 Eric Knott
Kirby Yates 233 12.70 3.21 1.29 .301 121 82 3.42 0.7 Kiko Calero
Craig Stammen 273 8.95 2.62 0.96 .294 111 90 3.52 0.6 Rick White
Luis Perdomo 569 6.89 3.48 1.07 .319 85 118 4.48 0.5 Mike LaCoss
Jose Castillo 259 11.19 4.33 0.90 .297 111 90 3.60 0.5 Buzz Oliver
Pedro Avila 559 7.93 4.58 1.16 .303 83 121 4.79 0.4 Rick Berg
Dietrich Enns 485 6.81 4.46 1.18 .299 83 121 4.99 0.3 Bill Wight
Phil Maton 262 10.22 3.21 1.17 .302 105 96 3.78 0.3 Steve Olin
Cal Quantrill 615 6.26 3.62 1.32 .306 81 124 5.02 0.3 Jake Joseph
Bryan Mitchell 400 6.22 4.18 1.12 .304 84 119 4.92 0.3 Mark Calvert
Kazuhisa Makita 234 7.08 2.63 0.99 .295 104 96 4.05 0.2 Bobby Tiefenauer
Michel Baez 425 8.17 4.71 1.25 .305 81 124 4.90 0.2 Ben Hendrickson
Brad Wieck 221 11.72 5.15 1.07 .297 102 99 3.92 0.2 Armando Almanza
Emmanuel Ramirez 468 8.19 4.05 1.29 .308 82 122 4.72 0.1 Yoel Hernandez
Dillon Overton 452 5.84 2.92 1.42 .304 81 123 5.02 0.1 Norm Montoya
Elliot Ashbeck 290 7.25 2.96 0.94 .300 95 105 4.06 0.1 Pedro Borbon
Eric Stout 281 5.97 3.55 0.85 .302 93 108 4.38 0.1 Jim Crawford
Carlos Torres 261 8.30 3.92 1.06 .298 97 103 4.24 0.1 Greg Minton
Jonathan Aro 205 7.71 3.86 0.96 .297 97 104 4.24 0.1 Phil Niekro
Fernando Rodriguez Jr. 226 8.94 4.38 1.40 .293 87 116 4.77 0.0 Don Aase
Ryan Bollinger 450 6.32 3.79 1.35 .303 78 128 5.15 0.0 Dave Otto
Phil Hughes 275 6.64 1.84 1.98 .305 78 128 5.19 -0.1 Don Wengert
Robert Stock 292 8.63 4.52 0.96 .306 90 111 4.26 -0.1 Mike Bumstead
Trevor Megill 147 8.37 3.24 1.62 .302 84 119 4.89 -0.2 John Doherty
Carter Capps 163 8.67 4.95 1.24 .297 84 119 4.83 -0.2 Newt Kimball
Trey Wingenter 258 11.24 5.62 1.25 .295 88 114 4.49 -0.2 Brad Voyles
Kyle McGrath 233 7.83 3.00 1.50 .293 85 118 4.69 -0.3 Bob Baxter
Travis Radke 294 8.15 2.94 1.60 .303 80 125 4.81 -0.4 Mark Lee
Andres Munoz 102 10.45 9.15 1.31 .302 70 143 5.91 -0.4 Jeff Smith
Jerry Keel 567 6.14 3.43 1.50 .302 75 133 5.28 -0.4 Jason Dickson
Erik Johnson 406 7.60 4.20 1.60 .302 74 134 5.31 -0.4 John Kelly
Seth Simmons 304 7.64 4.91 1.50 .305 73 138 5.44 -0.5 Joe Coleman
Gerardo Reyes 245 8.65 6.75 1.04 .301 79 127 5.21 -0.5 Heathcliff Slocumb
Todd Van Steensel 218 8.55 6.60 1.17 .298 75 133 5.33 -0.5 Jake Robbins
Miguel Diaz 384 9.36 6.42 1.42 .297 73 137 5.40 -0.6 Lee Smith
Tyler Higgins 202 6.75 2.98 1.59 .303 74 135 5.14 -0.6 Eric Moody
Colby Blueberg 243 8.32 5.43 1.36 .298 75 133 5.24 -0.7 Mike Zimmerman

 

Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2019. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in Triple-A or .300 in Double-A, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.

Players are listed with their most recent teams, unless I have made a mistake. This is very possible, as a lot of minor-league signings go generally unreported in the offseason.

ZiPS’ projections are based on the American League having a 4.29 ERA and the National League having a 4.15 ERA.

Players who are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information, and a computer isn’t the tool that should project the injury status of, for example, a pitcher who has had Tommy John surgery.

Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by me, Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in the full release of ZiPS. Finally, I will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on a depth chart to produce projected team WAR.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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Spitball McPhee
7 years ago

I think they are perfect for a Buddy System type pitching arrangement for at least 2 rotation spots. A lot of young talent who may struggle third time through the order/lack 3rd pitch consistency and you want to be careful with their innings as they develop. More ~100 innings guys than 200 and 60 innings; that is the near-future/present I think.

CC AFCMember since 2016
7 years ago

Only if they can be called “accountabili-buddies”

avoidiam
7 years ago

Agree 100% and would love to see it.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

That Machado guy: Pretty good! I am going to guess ZiPs thinks this team could compete as early as 2021, and that makes sense because that’s when the pitching will have had some big-league experience, as well as Tatis Jr., and Reyes, Margot, and Urias will still be around. The key is going to be moving Myers now, when he is playing on a relatively cheap year, so that they can escape the high salaries so they can strike good deals with the Reyes/Margot/Urias/Hedges/Lamet/Cordero group that they want to keep and are willing to stay.

This projection also does nothing to dissuade me from the idea that Jankowski could start on a lot of teams right now.

The ZiPs projection for Myers gives some hope for moving him, but the Renfroe comp feels a little too on-the-nose for me. A bad defense, low-OBP guy with power and superficial counting stats like RBIs? Sounds about right.

mattMember since 2023
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think zips is expecting 2020 contention. It seems they have the Padres slightly under 500 for this year relying on rookie pitchers and rookie/inexperienced position players.

ShauncoreMember since 2019
7 years ago
Reply to  matt

Yeah just not quite enough MLB ready pitching yet, but it exists in the minors.

Pirates HurdlesMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I think 1 more SP ad they could compete now, using the depth chart WAR here and Steamer they are right at 81 wins. Add Keuchel and get some positive RP/ young SP variance and 87-88 isnt too far fetched.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

ZiPs is likely higher on the Padres than Steamer, but right now Depth Charts shows them at 79, and it’s not going to be quite as easy to improve from here on out.

I don’t see how the Padres are going to make another big addition right now. Keuchel gets them another 2-3 wins most likely (since the fifth starters here are in the 0.5-1 win range). That puts them a little above the D-Backs and a little below the Rockies for next year, but they’re already probably at a team-high payroll and Myers’ salary jumps a lot next year. I don’t see it happening.

mattMember since 2023
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I don’t want keuchel but I do think Padres will have a 135-150 million payroll in near future. Seidler is loaded and cares a lot

Mahoney
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Renfroe probably would have had Francoeur as a comp, except that Frenchy came up (and peaked) earlier.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

For the pitchers…while I know that the fastball/changeup combo has now fallen out of favor of the fastball/curveball, I am a sucker for lefties with plus changeups. Paddack, in particular, could have a real Bugs Bunny changeup when it’s all said and done. I suppose a rotation made up mostly of lefties with plus changeups might not be ideal, though (Gore, Lucchesi, Paddack, Morejon, Allen).

I’m not sure calling Lucchesi a #2/#3 starter is something I would do, but then again, the definitions on a “#2 starter” vary so widely it might just be a difference in definition.

CC AFCMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Isn’t Paddack a righty?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

Yep, he is. Premium changeup, premium command…I must have been confused. In my mind he was a lefty.

Mahoney
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Lol, until last week’s flood of prospect articles I thought Paddack was a lefty too. Now I don’t feel so foolish.

Kevbot034
7 years ago

The OF certainly has a lot of players. Also curious how this will affect Urias this year and Tatis next. Manny is confirmed to be 3b for the Pads, not SS?

roydjtMember since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  Kevbot034

Nothing is confirmed until the Padres officially announce the signing, which is rumored to come tomorrow. Urias is the starting 2B, Tatis will play SS once he comes up, and Manny will play 3B. Kinsler is a backup, as is Greg Garcia, but as long as those three are healthy they’re starting every game if I’m the manager.

johansantana17Member since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  roydjt
emh1969
7 years ago

FYI: Christian Villanueva is now a Giant. A Yomiuri Giant, that is. He signed with them last November.

emh1969
7 years ago

Consider me skeptical that the Padres are anywhere near Wild Card contention. They won 66 games last year (or 65 pythagorean). Machado should help by 5-6 games. But where is the rest of the improvement supposed to come from? Urias (2.7 projected WAR) is probably an improvement over Galvis (1.2 WAR last year). Kinsler? Hard to see him adding more than 1-2 WAR. Tatis? Doubt they’re going to rush him.

I´ll admit that I don’t follow the Padres closely so there may be something that I’m missing. But right now it seems to me that they’re a 70-75 win team. Of course, if I’m wrong about that, please let me know what I’m missing.

tmcgowanMember since 2022
7 years ago
Reply to  emh1969

“please let me know what I’m missing” – youth improving. Looking at the projections above, Machado 26, Luis Urias 21, Franmil Reyes 23, Manuel Margot 24, Wil Myers 28, etc.

emh1969
7 years ago
Reply to  tmcgowan

“Looking at the projections above, Machado 26, Luis Urias 21, Franmil Reyes 23, Manuel Margot 24, Wil Myers 28, etc.”

Machado and Urias were mentioned in my comment. Myers isn´t young enough that we would expect improvement, it’s mostly a question of health. The others? Yeah, maybe they improve. But Margot, for example, was worse in 2018 then he was in 2017. Young players don’t always improve.

Pirates HurdlesMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  emh1969

I think you are underestimating an offense that projects right about with MIL as the 5th best in the NL. It doesnt take a huge leap to give them some positive variance in SP/RP and see them pull a Braves and arrive a year early.

emh1969
7 years ago

Perhaps but they had the third worst offense in the NL (via wRC+) last year. Machado will obviously help but otherwise I think it takes a lot of optimism to expect them to jump up to 5th.

As for the Braves, they started off from a higher base (72 wins). And almost all of their improvement (16 of their 18 games) came within their division. They showed almost no improvement from 2017 to 2018 in games outside of their division. I don´t think the 2019 NL West will be as weak as the 2018 NL East. So not sure the Padres are as well positioned at the Braves.

dl80Member since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  emh1969

That’s fair, but the Diamondbacks and Giants should both be considerably worse than they were last year. That alone might have gotten the Padres to 70 wins.

The Ghost of Johnny Dickshot
7 years ago

5th best in NL? Oh dear lord. I get people are excited about the Padres but they lost 96 games last year and have added 1 player that we all assume will put up 5 wins. There is a LOT of predictions made on young guys all developing and/or getting better…this is a recipe for disaster. If they win 75 games this year they should count that as a win.

dl80Member since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  emh1969

The outfield (other than Myers) could easily improve by 2-3 wins. A healthy Cordero, a full season from Renfroe and Reyes, and even a moderate bounceback by Margot would be a huge upgrade. Obviously, that won’t all happen, but even if 2 of them do, they are probably 2+ wins better.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  emh1969

The ZiPs projection on Margot is almost like it expects 2018 never happened, and this is the “real” 2018. I don’t buy it. It is also a little aggressive on Urias for my tastes. And I also think the Depth Charts estimation is a little aggressive on how quickly Tatis Jr. will be in the big leagues. Oh, and we’re not even sure if Mejia can play catcher, rendering the attractive ZiPs projection rather tentative.

On the other hand, keep in mind that ZiPs (and Steamer) project about a 2-win increase from Hosmer (2), a full year from Franmil Reyes (who looks like a beast–I would not be surprised if he dramatically outstrips that projection; so another 1-2 wins), and steps forward from Lucchesi (1) and the return of Dinelson Lamet (1). Add that to Machado (5-6) and Urias/Kinsler (2-3) and you’ve gotten yourself approximately 13 more wins. Add that to the 66 wins last year, and you get to 79 wins, which is exactly Steamer’s projection (ZiPs is going to be higher, though–around .500).

In summary:
-Hosmer’s in an odd year
-Reyes is a beast
-Starting pitching will be slightly better
-Almost no one will be worse
-OMG THEY HAVE MANNY MACHADO

Philays
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Reyes is a beast? Have you seen his minor league numbers?

Preview: they aren’t good.

johansantana17Member since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  Philays

He was pretty good in AA in 2017 and extremely good in AAA in 2018. Most importantly, he was very good in the MLB, you know, the league that we’re talking about.

Philays
7 years ago
Reply to  johansantana17

A 115 wRC+ in AA for a 22 y/o bat-only guy who weighs 290 is actually quite bad.

2018 was the first time he hit, at any level, and it was <300 PA sample in MLB. The guy is 18 months removed from finishing a .322 OBP season in the Texas League. A 116 OPS+ forecast is absurd.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  Philays

A 115 wRC+ for a 21/22 year old season in AA is perfectly acceptable. A 168 wRC+ as a 22 year old in AAA is quite good, as is a 129 wRC+ as a 23 year old in the show. And as Jeff Sullivan has pointed out, there are some measurable changes to his swing that led to his August/Sept breakout. The power is totally sustainable, since he’s built like a pro wrestler, and if shortening up his swing sticks (a big if) he’s going to make the 2.4 fWAR projection look silly.

The other big question is whether he’s ever going to be average in a corner outfield spot or if he’s going to have to move to first base. That I’m less hopeful about, but it looks like he’s going to mash.

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
7 years ago
Reply to  emh1969

I tend to agree. They’re the fringiest of fringe contenders IMHO. And that only because the 2nd tier of the NL just isn’t very good. LAD, WAS, CHC, STL, NYM, PHI are all clearly better. Then there’s a big mess of terribly flawed teams that SD finds themselves towards the bottom of.

To really contend they’ll need to hit the high end of their projections (totally possible) and have a few other teams go bad (also totally possible).

If they decided to afford 4 years of Dallas Keuchel, that would move them nearer to the top of that middle class of teams, but … most organizations seem to have decided that it’s not worth it to spend chasing a wild card.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  HappyFunBall

It’s a little tough because we don’t have formal projections from ZiPs yet, so the projections currently up are based only on Steamer. But based on what we’ve seen so far, we can safely assume that the Dodgers, Cubs, Nationals, and Cardinals are going to be projected for the high-80s/low-90s in wins; the Mets, Braves, Brewers, Phillies, and Rockies are going to be somewhere below that; and then the Reds, Pirates, D-Backs, and Padres are going to be somewhere below that. If the Padres have a chance, then literally any team except the Giants and Marlins have a chance.

djo162
7 years ago

Strahm ERA and K rate look really good. What’s his role? I know many think he’s a sleeper to be an excellent SP. For team that could use that, will they give him a shot? The low IP for ZiPS seems like ZiPS doesn’t know what he is.

Tiago
7 years ago
Reply to  djo162

Strahm will definitely be given a chance to start. Not a lot of spots locked down in that rotation. But he’s pitched so little as a professional because of injuries that even if he gets a starting job he won’t be pitching deep in to many games.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
7 years ago
Reply to  djo162

I hope he’s a starter. He’s coming into ST as a starter, I hope he gets a spot. I really want him for fantasy purposes

ShauncoreMember since 2019
7 years ago

Any other team have a bigger dropoff from their #1 hitter and their #2 hitter, in terms of WAR?

Not that that’s really indicative of talent (Machado is really good and a 22yo Urias with a 2.7 WAR projection is damn good too), just curious if a 3-win gap exists somewhere else.

Mike Trout and the Angels don’t count.

johansantana17Member since 2026
7 years ago
Reply to  Shauncore

Lol Trout minus Simmons is 4.1 WAR.

Betts minus Martinez is close to Machado minus Urias at 2.7 WAR.

40oztoSteamer
7 years ago

How is .246/.335/.358 a 90 OPS+? Are you using Petco Park factors circa 2010?

mookie monster
7 years ago

that rotation… yikes yikes yikes.

Mahoney
7 years ago

Interestingly enough, Machado’s top thru-age-25 similarity score on BBRef is also Beltre.

His top career similarity score (ie. full career thru the 2018 season): his good buddy Josh Donaldson.

carpaiaMember since 2025
7 years ago

Cal Quantrill being projected with the most innings pitched just seems wrong

Mustard n BrownMember since 2023
7 years ago

The Mustard and Brown ballpark graphic is simply glorious. Of course, this is coming from someone whose username is uh.. Mustard N Brown. But, I digress…

JoserMember since 2021
7 years ago

Came here to say something like this, and my username in no way references the Padres or their One And Only True color scheme.

xeifrank
7 years ago

Is Machado hitting 32 HRs with half his games in San Diego? I know that hitting in Colorado and Arizona will help but that will probably be close to being offset by hitting an even number of games in LA and SF. It looks like SD was close to nuetral (0.983) in HRs last year. Did they move the fences in?

randplatyMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  xeifrank

yeah the moved the fences in in 2013.

carterMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  xeifrank

Also az isn’t a good hitters park

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
7 years ago

Machado is nice and everything, but I’m more excited here about Franmil’s projection. Hopefully he gets everyday playing time this season

jrogersMember since 2017
7 years ago

Seeing comps to both Dante Bichette and Vinny Castilla is fun. The Trevor Hoffman Way Bombers?