2019 ZiPS Projections – San Francisco Giants
After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for more than half a decade. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the San Francisco Giants.
Batters
Be very careful when scrolling down to look at the depth chart. The way these things work, the first thing you’ll see is the outfield, which is likely to remain an absolutely brutal mess, one that couldn’t even be half-solved by a Ronald Acuña/Juan Soto-esque rise to power by Heliot Ramos, one of San Francisco’s few top prospects. Let’s put it this way: ZiPS projects Rule 5 draftee Drew Ferguson to be arguably the best outfielder on the team, with two of the other top outfielders being a minor-league signing and a waiver claim from the Rangers. The good news is that most of the group actually projects above replacement-level, so there’s a weird amount of adequacy in terms of the depth, but the projections give absolutely none of the team’s current group a chance to have much of an upside.
Things get sunnier when you look at the infield, which is the primary reason the Giants are likely to still be projected above the Padres for one last run (though probably just for one, unless the Padres are notably unlucky or incompetent). ZiPS essentially projects improvement for all of the team’s infield starters, kind of a rarity given the generally justifiable grumpy conservativeness to which projections systems are prone. The quality of the infield lends itself well to the argument that the Giants probably ought to have won more games last year. Not enough to be a playoff team, mind you, but at least enough to tone down the bleakness.
The worrisome thing about the offense is that most of the highlight players are at ages where their downsides can still hit like a ton of bricks and fast, and there’s no counterbalancing breakout potential. To the team’s credit, they’ve given every indication they realize that the outfield is bit of a tire fire. The Giants were in on all of the Marlins outfielders last winter, brought in Andrew McCutchen for 2018 (before trading him to the Yankees), and are now courting Bryce Harper. If any team is able to convince Harper to sign a shorter-term contract, San Francisco seems like a possibility; a superstar season from Harper could get the team into plausible contention, given their outfield weakness. And time is of the essence — if the infield starters don’t bounce back, this team is absolute toast.
I am still confused as to the baseball purpose of Pablo Sandoval remaining on the roster. Did someone in the organization finish last in their fantasy baseball league, and this is their punishment?
Pitchers
Johnny Cueto could theoretically return in September, but I think the smart money is still on him not making an appearance until 2020. Which, in addition to being unfortunate for Cueto, is rather bad timing for the Giants, who are less likely to be playing meaningful games in 2020 than this year.
Madison Bumgarner only gets a two-WAR projection, but that’s over just 147 innings, due largely to his attendance over the last two seasons, when he’s missed time due to freak injuries, one caused by something somewhat unusual (a dirt bike), the other by something somewhat mundane (a line drive). Since no elbow or shoulders were involved, I’m more optimistic about Bumgarner getting back to the 200 inning range than the projections are, which would boost his WAR to around three. ZiPS projects Dereck Rodriguez to be roughly league-average, which will be disappointing to Giants fans after a season in which Rodriguez was one of the team’s few highlights, but he has a very short record track record and a low K rate, so ZiPS isn’t putting him on the Kyle Hendricks pile yet. He’s certainly unlikely to repeat the 0.68 HR/9, even playing in Oracle Park.
The bullpen isn’t flashy, but the front-end is solidly above-average, and the team’s depth projects as more than adequate for its needs. San Francisco has shown an ability to turn random pieces into good relievers, and has a solid record with reclamation projects, such as Sam Dyson.
Bench and Prospects
After Joey Bart and Heliot Ramos, both likely to get official projections next year, the cupboard gets bare quickly. ZiPS does project Shaun Anderson to be a decent No. 3 starter for a time in his prime, and it has a long-term fascination with Conner Menez, but there’s just not much there there. Honestly, if the Giants had better prospects after their top two guys, I’d expect them to already have been traded for a starting pitcher. Most teams have a position player or two who ZiPS thinks projects better than the scouting reports indicate, but I’m just not seeing anybody here. Despite playing in the Pacific Coast League, Triple-A Sacramento only had one player who hit 15 homers (Chris Shaw).
One pedantic note for 2019: for the WAR graphic, I’m using FanGraphs’ depth chart playing time, not the playing time ZiPS spits out, so there will be occasional differences in WAR totals.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site.
| Player | B | Age | PO | G | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Buster Posey | R | 32 | C | 115 | 423 | 53 | 122 | 24 | 1 | 8 | 53 | 48 | 56 | 4 | 1 |
| Brandon Crawford | L | 32 | SS | 143 | 507 | 59 | 129 | 29 | 4 | 14 | 67 | 46 | 115 | 4 | 4 |
| Brandon Belt | L | 31 | 1B | 117 | 416 | 57 | 104 | 25 | 3 | 15 | 53 | 62 | 122 | 4 | 1 |
| Joe Panik | L | 28 | 2B | 122 | 444 | 57 | 122 | 24 | 4 | 7 | 44 | 40 | 47 | 4 | 1 |
| Evan Longoria | R | 33 | 3B | 136 | 528 | 58 | 136 | 31 | 3 | 16 | 65 | 34 | 105 | 3 | 1 |
| Alen Hanson | B | 26 | 2B | 132 | 398 | 51 | 99 | 18 | 8 | 9 | 42 | 21 | 88 | 17 | 7 |
| Breyvic Valera | B | 27 | 2B | 126 | 424 | 50 | 113 | 16 | 4 | 5 | 38 | 37 | 48 | 7 | 7 |
| Anthony Garcia | R | 27 | LF | 126 | 449 | 60 | 111 | 25 | 1 | 16 | 56 | 43 | 108 | 3 | 2 |
| Drew Ferguson | R | 26 | CF | 92 | 348 | 45 | 85 | 18 | 2 | 6 | 31 | 39 | 101 | 9 | 6 |
| Austin Slater | R | 26 | RF | 118 | 411 | 48 | 105 | 22 | 2 | 8 | 48 | 34 | 113 | 9 | 4 |
| Stephen Vogt | L | 34 | C | 116 | 373 | 40 | 92 | 20 | 2 | 12 | 47 | 34 | 75 | 0 | 1 |
| John Andreoli | R | 29 | LF | 115 | 420 | 52 | 94 | 19 | 4 | 6 | 35 | 51 | 130 | 20 | 7 |
| Steven Duggar | L | 25 | CF | 117 | 467 | 55 | 116 | 26 | 4 | 6 | 42 | 46 | 139 | 13 | 6 |
| Brock Stassi | L | 29 | 1B | 89 | 286 | 35 | 68 | 16 | 1 | 6 | 30 | 37 | 67 | 0 | 1 |
| Mac Williamson | R | 28 | LF | 101 | 348 | 46 | 81 | 17 | 1 | 14 | 43 | 30 | 103 | 3 | 2 |
| Abiatal Avelino | R | 24 | SS | 132 | 489 | 53 | 119 | 20 | 6 | 9 | 43 | 26 | 108 | 16 | 6 |
| Henry Ramos | B | 27 | CF | 99 | 347 | 39 | 91 | 17 | 3 | 7 | 35 | 24 | 75 | 6 | 4 |
| Donovan Solano | R | 31 | SS | 110 | 397 | 39 | 102 | 22 | 1 | 4 | 33 | 16 | 61 | 2 | 1 |
| Jerry Sands | R | 31 | 1B | 93 | 307 | 36 | 71 | 16 | 1 | 10 | 36 | 33 | 88 | 2 | 1 |
| Ryan Howard | R | 24 | SS | 120 | 465 | 47 | 118 | 23 | 3 | 4 | 41 | 27 | 77 | 6 | 4 |
| Cameron Rupp | R | 30 | C | 90 | 311 | 31 | 67 | 15 | 1 | 10 | 34 | 29 | 110 | 0 | 0 |
| Aramis Garcia | R | 26 | C | 101 | 386 | 40 | 84 | 17 | 1 | 11 | 41 | 22 | 128 | 0 | 1 |
| Cesar Puello | R | 28 | LF | 90 | 315 | 42 | 78 | 14 | 2 | 6 | 30 | 29 | 85 | 8 | 4 |
| Levi Michael | B | 28 | SS | 103 | 375 | 44 | 85 | 16 | 3 | 6 | 30 | 26 | 114 | 9 | 4 |
| Ryder Jones | L | 25 | 3B | 124 | 458 | 50 | 108 | 24 | 3 | 11 | 47 | 25 | 117 | 3 | 2 |
| Mike Gerber | L | 26 | CF | 108 | 411 | 46 | 89 | 19 | 3 | 12 | 44 | 29 | 148 | 5 | 3 |
| Rene Rivera | R | 35 | C | 61 | 173 | 14 | 37 | 7 | 0 | 5 | 21 | 10 | 58 | 0 | 0 |
| Jin-De Jhang | L | 26 | C | 62 | 230 | 22 | 55 | 10 | 1 | 2 | 18 | 13 | 34 | 1 | 1 |
| Ali Castillo | R | 30 | 3B | 107 | 355 | 33 | 86 | 14 | 2 | 2 | 26 | 16 | 47 | 7 | 7 |
| Ronnie Freeman | R | 28 | C | 71 | 231 | 22 | 52 | 9 | 1 | 3 | 17 | 14 | 57 | 0 | 0 |
| Trevor Brown | R | 27 | C | 58 | 179 | 16 | 39 | 8 | 0 | 2 | 13 | 13 | 40 | 2 | 0 |
| Caleb Gindl | L | 30 | LF | 84 | 266 | 27 | 60 | 12 | 2 | 4 | 24 | 22 | 64 | 1 | 2 |
| Miguel Gomez | B | 26 | 2B | 118 | 437 | 43 | 112 | 22 | 4 | 8 | 45 | 10 | 73 | 1 | 0 |
| C.J. Hinojosa | R | 24 | SS | 102 | 395 | 40 | 92 | 18 | 2 | 4 | 31 | 29 | 68 | 6 | 4 |
| Eury Perez | R | 29 | RF | 73 | 219 | 23 | 57 | 9 | 3 | 1 | 19 | 11 | 38 | 13 | 5 |
| Pablo Sandoval | B | 32 | 3B | 92 | 293 | 28 | 70 | 13 | 1 | 8 | 35 | 20 | 60 | 0 | 0 |
| Zach Green | R | 25 | 1B | 106 | 385 | 43 | 80 | 22 | 2 | 12 | 46 | 26 | 155 | 1 | 1 |
| Chris Shaw | L | 25 | LF | 131 | 495 | 55 | 113 | 27 | 2 | 19 | 62 | 30 | 175 | 1 | 0 |
| Peter Maris | L | 25 | 2B | 87 | 317 | 35 | 72 | 12 | 3 | 6 | 28 | 27 | 72 | 5 | 5 |
| Hamlet Marte | R | 25 | C | 72 | 265 | 27 | 56 | 12 | 1 | 6 | 23 | 17 | 95 | 2 | 1 |
| Luigi Rodriguez | B | 26 | RF | 100 | 362 | 39 | 78 | 14 | 3 | 11 | 37 | 23 | 138 | 10 | 8 |
| Myles Schroder | R | 31 | 1B | 93 | 322 | 30 | 67 | 13 | 2 | 6 | 27 | 14 | 97 | 5 | 3 |
| Heath Quinn | R | 24 | LF | 92 | 350 | 37 | 75 | 15 | 0 | 8 | 32 | 28 | 126 | 3 | 1 |
| Matt Winn | R | 26 | C | 93 | 326 | 31 | 54 | 13 | 1 | 8 | 28 | 27 | 163 | 0 | 0 |
| Sandro Fabian | R | 21 | RF | 120 | 455 | 43 | 91 | 20 | 1 | 10 | 41 | 18 | 138 | 2 | 3 |
| Josh Rutledge | R | 30 | 2B | 57 | 170 | 16 | 34 | 6 | 1 | 2 | 11 | 11 | 57 | 1 | 1 |
| Jalen Miller | R | 22 | 2B | 130 | 524 | 53 | 115 | 26 | 2 | 8 | 46 | 25 | 145 | 8 | 5 |
| Player | PA | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS+ | ISO | BABIP | RC/27 | Def | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Buster Posey | 479 | .288 | .363 | .407 | 109 | .118 | .318 | 5.7 | 7 | 3.8 | Earl Battey |
| Brandon Crawford | 566 | .254 | .320 | .410 | 97 | .156 | .304 | 4.7 | 9 | 3.2 | Jay Bell |
| Brandon Belt | 484 | .250 | .351 | .433 | 112 | .183 | .319 | 5.5 | 8 | 2.8 | Leon Durham |
| Joe Panik | 495 | .275 | .337 | .394 | 98 | .119 | .295 | 5.0 | 0 | 2.0 | Jeff Treadway |
| Evan Longoria | 574 | .258 | .305 | .419 | 94 | .161 | .295 | 4.7 | 1 | 1.9 | Tim Wallach |
| Alen Hanson | 427 | .249 | .286 | .402 | 84 | .153 | .299 | 4.2 | 3 | 1.3 | Luis Rivas |
| Breyvic Valera | 470 | .267 | .324 | .358 | 86 | .092 | .291 | 4.1 | 2 | 1.2 | Wallace Johnson |
| Anthony Garcia | 506 | .247 | .323 | .414 | 99 | .167 | .292 | 4.8 | -2 | 1.1 | Kurt Bierek |
| Drew Ferguson | 396 | .244 | .329 | .359 | 87 | .115 | .328 | 4.1 | -1 | 1.0 | Larry Bigbie |
| Austin Slater | 455 | .255 | .319 | .377 | 89 | .122 | .334 | 4.4 | 1 | 0.9 | Ruben Mateo |
| Stephen Vogt | 413 | .247 | .310 | .408 | 93 | .161 | .280 | 4.5 | -8 | 0.8 | Bill Freehan |
| John Andreoli | 478 | .224 | .311 | .331 | 75 | .107 | .310 | 3.7 | 7 | 0.8 | Reggie Williams |
| Steven Duggar | 517 | .248 | .317 | .360 | 84 | .111 | .342 | 4.1 | -5 | 0.7 | Rich Becker |
| Brock Stassi | 328 | .238 | .326 | .364 | 88 | .126 | .291 | 4.1 | 3 | 0.7 | Ray Giannelli |
| Mac Williamson | 386 | .233 | .303 | .408 | 91 | .175 | .290 | 4.3 | 0 | 0.7 | Scott Bryant |
| Abiatal Avelino | 523 | .243 | .285 | .364 | 75 | .121 | .296 | 3.8 | -3 | 0.6 | Hector Luna |
| Henry Ramos | 378 | .262 | .309 | .389 | 88 | .127 | .317 | 4.3 | -4 | 0.5 | Andrew Locke |
| Donovan Solano | 421 | .257 | .288 | .348 | 72 | .091 | .295 | 3.6 | -1 | 0.4 | Alvaro Espinoza |
| Jerry Sands | 344 | .231 | .308 | .388 | 88 | .156 | .292 | 4.2 | 1 | 0.4 | Jarrod Patterson |
| Ryan Howard | 503 | .254 | .298 | .342 | 74 | .088 | .297 | 3.6 | -4 | 0.4 | Dean DeCillis |
| Cameron Rupp | 344 | .215 | .285 | .367 | 76 | .151 | .298 | 3.6 | -4 | 0.4 | Chad Moeller |
| Aramis Garcia | 413 | .218 | .264 | .352 | 66 | .135 | .296 | 3.2 | 1 | 0.4 | Alvin Colina |
| Cesar Puello | 360 | .248 | .329 | .362 | 88 | .114 | .321 | 4.3 | -2 | 0.3 | Domingo Michel |
| Levi Michael | 416 | .227 | .295 | .333 | 71 | .107 | .310 | 3.5 | -3 | 0.3 | Doug Baker |
| Ryder Jones | 493 | .236 | .282 | .373 | 76 | .138 | .294 | 3.7 | -2 | 0.3 | Brennan King |
| Mike Gerber | 447 | .217 | .271 | .365 | 71 | .148 | .307 | 3.4 | 0 | 0.2 | Justin Bowles |
| Rene Rivera | 188 | .214 | .267 | .341 | 64 | .127 | .291 | 3.1 | 0 | 0.1 | Shawn Wooten |
| Jin-De Jhang | 247 | .239 | .280 | .317 | 62 | .078 | .273 | 3.1 | 0 | 0.1 | Dave Miley |
| Ali Castillo | 379 | .242 | .276 | .310 | 59 | .068 | .275 | 2.8 | 7 | 0.1 | Robert Eenhoorn |
| Ronnie Freeman | 249 | .225 | .270 | .312 | 58 | .087 | .287 | 2.9 | 1 | 0.0 | Kyle Geiger |
| Trevor Brown | 195 | .218 | .278 | .296 | 57 | .078 | .270 | 3.0 | -1 | -0.1 | David Duff |
| Caleb Gindl | 292 | .226 | .285 | .331 | 67 | .105 | .283 | 3.2 | 2 | -0.2 | Jeff Wetherby |
| Miguel Gomez | 451 | .256 | .273 | .380 | 75 | .124 | .292 | 3.8 | -6 | -0.2 | Donnie Hill |
| C.J. Hinojosa | 432 | .233 | .287 | .319 | 65 | .086 | .272 | 3.2 | -4 | -0.2 | Keoni DeRenne |
| Eury Perez | 239 | .260 | .303 | .342 | 75 | .082 | .311 | 3.9 | -2 | -0.3 | Jason Bourgeois |
| Pablo Sandoval | 319 | .239 | .292 | .372 | 79 | .133 | .276 | 3.8 | -7 | -0.3 | Geoff Blum |
| Zach Green | 422 | .208 | .270 | .369 | 72 | .161 | .312 | 3.4 | 1 | -0.4 | Ryan Mulhern |
| Chris Shaw | 533 | .228 | .278 | .406 | 83 | .178 | .312 | 4.0 | -7 | -0.4 | Glenn Davis |
| Peter Maris | 351 | .227 | .287 | .341 | 70 | .114 | .276 | 3.3 | -5 | -0.4 | Chris Lombardozzi |
| Hamlet Marte | 285 | .211 | .257 | .332 | 59 | .121 | .305 | 2.9 | -6 | -0.7 | David Ross |
| Luigi Rodriguez | 391 | .215 | .264 | .362 | 68 | .146 | .315 | 3.1 | 0 | -0.7 | Tony Barron |
| Myles Schroder | 348 | .208 | .255 | .317 | 54 | .109 | .279 | 2.7 | 5 | -0.8 | Marc Sagmoen |
| Heath Quinn | 384 | .214 | .279 | .326 | 64 | .111 | .310 | 3.1 | -2 | -0.8 | Lance Hallberg |
| Matt Winn | 357 | .166 | .233 | .285 | 40 | .120 | .297 | 2.2 | -1 | -0.9 | Steve Lomasney |
| Sandro Fabian | 485 | .200 | .238 | .314 | 49 | .114 | .264 | 2.4 | 10 | -0.9 | John Lindsey |
| Josh Rutledge | 184 | .200 | .255 | .282 | 46 | .082 | .288 | 2.4 | -4 | -0.9 | Paul Hoover |
| Jalen Miller | 559 | .219 | .261 | .323 | 58 | .103 | .288 | 2.9 | -3 | -1.0 | Chris Patten |
| Player | T | Age | W | L | ERA | G | GS | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Madison Bumgarner | L | 29 | 8 | 8 | 3.86 | 24 | 24 | 147.0 | 139 | 63 | 21 | 37 | 135 |
| Johnny Cueto | R | 33 | 7 | 7 | 3.92 | 22 | 22 | 133.0 | 131 | 58 | 17 | 35 | 110 |
| Dereck Rodriguez | R | 27 | 7 | 7 | 4.19 | 27 | 26 | 146.0 | 150 | 68 | 18 | 45 | 114 |
| Drew Pomeranz | L | 30 | 7 | 8 | 4.42 | 28 | 21 | 116.0 | 111 | 57 | 14 | 57 | 107 |
| Derek Holland | L | 32 | 7 | 8 | 4.54 | 29 | 25 | 134.7 | 135 | 68 | 19 | 56 | 118 |
| Jeff Samardzija | R | 34 | 7 | 8 | 4.59 | 22 | 22 | 131.3 | 134 | 67 | 19 | 35 | 109 |
| Will Smith | L | 29 | 3 | 2 | 2.94 | 57 | 0 | 52.0 | 41 | 17 | 5 | 17 | 69 |
| Tony Watson | L | 34 | 5 | 4 | 3.17 | 66 | 0 | 59.7 | 54 | 21 | 6 | 15 | 57 |
| Andrew Suarez | L | 26 | 9 | 11 | 4.60 | 30 | 29 | 162.3 | 176 | 83 | 24 | 47 | 130 |
| Conner Menez | L | 24 | 8 | 10 | 4.52 | 27 | 27 | 125.3 | 123 | 63 | 14 | 74 | 115 |
| Carlos Navas | R | 26 | 4 | 4 | 3.93 | 43 | 1 | 68.7 | 66 | 30 | 7 | 24 | 63 |
| Reyes Moronta | R | 26 | 4 | 3 | 3.39 | 65 | 0 | 58.3 | 44 | 22 | 4 | 36 | 74 |
| Mark Melancon | R | 34 | 2 | 2 | 3.22 | 47 | 0 | 44.7 | 43 | 16 | 3 | 11 | 35 |
| Ty Blach | L | 28 | 7 | 9 | 4.55 | 37 | 18 | 128.7 | 143 | 65 | 14 | 36 | 73 |
| Chris Stratton | R | 28 | 8 | 11 | 4.73 | 28 | 26 | 144.7 | 155 | 76 | 18 | 57 | 111 |
| Keyvius Sampson | R | 28 | 8 | 10 | 4.69 | 26 | 19 | 126.7 | 106 | 66 | 15 | 76 | 129 |
| Derek Law | R | 28 | 3 | 3 | 3.67 | 49 | 0 | 56.3 | 54 | 23 | 4 | 20 | 49 |
| Sam Dyson | R | 31 | 4 | 4 | 3.84 | 64 | 0 | 58.7 | 58 | 25 | 5 | 20 | 44 |
| Shaun Anderson | R | 24 | 6 | 9 | 4.86 | 25 | 24 | 129.7 | 142 | 70 | 20 | 41 | 97 |
| Logan Webb | R | 22 | 3 | 4 | 4.81 | 27 | 24 | 88.0 | 91 | 47 | 11 | 42 | 70 |
| Chase Johnson | R | 27 | 3 | 4 | 4.74 | 19 | 17 | 62.7 | 68 | 33 | 6 | 29 | 40 |
| Dillon McNamara | R | 27 | 3 | 3 | 4.21 | 39 | 1 | 51.3 | 51 | 24 | 5 | 23 | 44 |
| Ray Black | R | 29 | 3 | 3 | 3.94 | 56 | 0 | 48.0 | 33 | 21 | 5 | 34 | 77 |
| Tyler Rogers | R | 28 | 3 | 3 | 4.02 | 52 | 0 | 65.0 | 65 | 29 | 4 | 28 | 47 |
| Sam Coonrod | R | 26 | 5 | 7 | 4.89 | 22 | 18 | 95.7 | 99 | 52 | 12 | 49 | 79 |
| Pat Venditte | R | 34 | 3 | 3 | 4.44 | 38 | 0 | 48.7 | 46 | 24 | 6 | 24 | 45 |
| Jake Barrett | R | 27 | 2 | 3 | 4.03 | 53 | 0 | 58.0 | 52 | 26 | 6 | 31 | 62 |
| Sam Moll | L | 27 | 2 | 2 | 4.02 | 40 | 0 | 47.0 | 48 | 21 | 4 | 18 | 37 |
| Travis Bergen | L | 25 | 3 | 3 | 4.13 | 30 | 0 | 28.3 | 26 | 13 | 3 | 13 | 27 |
| Steven Okert | L | 27 | 2 | 2 | 4.10 | 52 | 0 | 48.3 | 46 | 22 | 7 | 16 | 49 |
| Tyler Herb | R | 27 | 5 | 8 | 5.17 | 21 | 21 | 108.0 | 120 | 62 | 14 | 49 | 73 |
| Manny Parra | L | 36 | 2 | 2 | 4.14 | 39 | 0 | 45.7 | 46 | 21 | 3 | 23 | 35 |
| Jamie Callahan | R | 24 | 3 | 3 | 4.50 | 29 | 1 | 40.0 | 41 | 20 | 4 | 19 | 32 |
| Sam Wolff | R | 28 | 2 | 3 | 4.37 | 29 | 0 | 35.0 | 32 | 17 | 4 | 21 | 39 |
| Pierce Johnson | R | 28 | 3 | 3 | 4.52 | 45 | 3 | 63.7 | 60 | 32 | 7 | 35 | 64 |
| Enderson Franco | R | 26 | 6 | 9 | 5.22 | 26 | 21 | 119.0 | 135 | 69 | 17 | 52 | 86 |
| Jordan Schafer | L | 32 | 1 | 1 | 4.59 | 27 | 1 | 33.3 | 32 | 17 | 4 | 17 | 33 |
| Brandon Beachy | R | 32 | 1 | 1 | 5.79 | 6 | 6 | 23.3 | 26 | 15 | 4 | 14 | 15 |
| Pat Ruotolo | R | 24 | 2 | 3 | 4.89 | 41 | 0 | 42.3 | 40 | 23 | 8 | 22 | 51 |
| Josh Osich | L | 30 | 1 | 1 | 4.71 | 54 | 1 | 57.3 | 59 | 30 | 7 | 28 | 47 |
| Casey Kelly | R | 29 | 7 | 11 | 5.22 | 28 | 23 | 131.0 | 151 | 76 | 21 | 45 | 89 |
| Joan Gregorio | R | 27 | 4 | 6 | 5.35 | 20 | 15 | 79.0 | 83 | 47 | 14 | 39 | 71 |
| Melvin Adon | R | 25 | 4 | 6 | 5.40 | 19 | 16 | 80.0 | 89 | 48 | 9 | 51 | 55 |
| Carlos Diaz | L | 25 | 2 | 3 | 4.80 | 40 | 0 | 50.7 | 50 | 27 | 4 | 34 | 40 |
| Kieran Lovegrove | R | 24 | 2 | 3 | 4.91 | 42 | 0 | 55.0 | 54 | 30 | 5 | 39 | 47 |
| Garrett Williams | L | 24 | 5 | 8 | 5.30 | 31 | 16 | 88.3 | 92 | 52 | 8 | 67 | 66 |
| Jose Valdez | R | 29 | 3 | 4 | 5.27 | 45 | 0 | 54.7 | 54 | 32 | 8 | 36 | 52 |
| Taylor Hill | R | 30 | 5 | 9 | 5.48 | 23 | 19 | 106.7 | 130 | 65 | 18 | 31 | 53 |
| Tyler Beede | R | 26 | 5 | 9 | 5.55 | 30 | 17 | 99.0 | 108 | 61 | 15 | 60 | 83 |
| Jordan Johnson | R | 25 | 6 | 11 | 5.62 | 24 | 23 | 115.3 | 128 | 72 | 19 | 63 | 83 |
| Ryan Halstead | R | 27 | 2 | 4 | 5.64 | 38 | 0 | 52.7 | 60 | 33 | 12 | 16 | 42 |
| Michael Connolly | R | 27 | 4 | 8 | 5.85 | 25 | 14 | 92.3 | 112 | 60 | 17 | 37 | 53 |
| Player | TBF | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | BABIP | ERA+ | ERA- | FIP | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Madison Bumgarner | 612 | 8.27 | 2.27 | 1.29 | .285 | 102 | 98 | 4.03 | 2.0 | Bud Black |
| Johnny Cueto | 561 | 7.44 | 2.37 | 1.15 | .290 | 100 | 100 | 4.08 | 1.7 | Bob Forsch |
| Dereck Rodriguez | 630 | 7.03 | 2.77 | 1.11 | .297 | 97 | 103 | 4.28 | 1.7 | Steve Fireovid |
| Drew Pomeranz | 511 | 8.30 | 4.42 | 1.09 | .294 | 92 | 109 | 4.43 | 1.0 | Rich Robertson |
| Derek Holland | 590 | 7.89 | 3.74 | 1.27 | .296 | 90 | 112 | 4.59 | 1.0 | Shawn Estes |
| Jeff Samardzija | 557 | 7.47 | 2.40 | 1.30 | .295 | 89 | 113 | 4.26 | 0.9 | Bill Gullickson |
| Will Smith | 212 | 11.94 | 2.94 | 0.87 | .300 | 134 | 75 | 2.78 | 0.9 | Ken Dayley |
| Tony Watson | 247 | 8.60 | 2.26 | 0.91 | .289 | 124 | 80 | 3.45 | 0.8 | Tony Castillo |
| Andrew Suarez | 705 | 7.21 | 2.61 | 1.33 | .306 | 86 | 117 | 4.47 | 0.8 | Bobby Livingston |
| Conner Menez | 571 | 8.26 | 5.31 | 1.01 | .302 | 87 | 115 | 4.71 | 0.8 | Trevor Wilson |
| Carlos Navas | 295 | 8.26 | 3.15 | 0.92 | .299 | 103 | 97 | 3.86 | 0.6 | Daryl Irvine |
| Reyes Moronta | 253 | 11.42 | 5.55 | 0.62 | .290 | 116 | 86 | 3.41 | 0.6 | Brian Wilson |
| Mark Melancon | 186 | 7.05 | 2.22 | 0.60 | .294 | 122 | 82 | 3.26 | 0.6 | Dick Coffman |
| Ty Blach | 557 | 5.11 | 2.52 | 0.98 | .299 | 87 | 115 | 4.34 | 0.5 | Mike Caldwell |
| Chris Stratton | 640 | 6.91 | 3.55 | 1.12 | .305 | 83 | 120 | 4.52 | 0.5 | Kevin Hodges |
| Keyvius Sampson | 558 | 9.17 | 5.40 | 1.07 | .273 | 84 | 119 | 4.57 | 0.4 | Victor Zambrano |
| Derek Law | 241 | 7.83 | 3.20 | 0.64 | .301 | 107 | 93 | 3.51 | 0.3 | Mark Lee |
| Sam Dyson | 253 | 6.75 | 3.07 | 0.77 | .293 | 103 | 97 | 3.93 | 0.3 | Jack Aker |
| Shaun Anderson | 569 | 6.73 | 2.85 | 1.39 | .302 | 81 | 123 | 4.77 | 0.3 | Mike Lincoln |
| Logan Webb | 396 | 7.16 | 4.30 | 1.13 | .300 | 82 | 122 | 4.82 | 0.2 | Jesus Silva |
| Chase Johnson | 284 | 5.74 | 4.16 | 0.86 | .302 | 83 | 120 | 4.70 | 0.2 | Sean White |
| Dillon McNamara | 227 | 7.71 | 4.03 | 0.88 | .303 | 97 | 103 | 4.22 | 0.1 | Casey Daigle |
| Ray Black | 211 | 14.44 | 6.38 | 0.94 | .301 | 100 | 100 | 3.55 | 0.1 | Dwayne Henry |
| Tyler Rogers | 287 | 6.51 | 3.88 | 0.55 | .299 | 98 | 102 | 3.98 | 0.1 | Bruce Dal Canton |
| Sam Coonrod | 434 | 7.43 | 4.61 | 1.13 | .302 | 81 | 124 | 4.85 | 0.1 | Allen Edwards |
| Pat Venditte | 216 | 8.32 | 4.44 | 1.11 | .290 | 92 | 109 | 4.57 | 0.1 | Jim Czajkowski |
| Jake Barrett | 256 | 9.62 | 4.81 | 0.93 | .299 | 98 | 102 | 4.12 | 0.1 | George Smith |
| Sam Moll | 205 | 7.09 | 3.45 | 0.77 | .306 | 98 | 102 | 3.96 | 0.1 | Jim Crawford |
| Travis Bergen | 124 | 8.58 | 4.13 | 0.95 | .291 | 99 | 101 | 4.21 | 0.1 | Mike Venafro |
| Steven Okert | 207 | 9.12 | 2.98 | 1.30 | .295 | 96 | 104 | 4.18 | 0.1 | Javier Lopez |
| Tyler Herb | 490 | 6.08 | 4.08 | 1.17 | .305 | 79 | 127 | 5.01 | 0.0 | Ben Fritz |
| Manny Parra | 205 | 6.90 | 4.53 | 0.59 | .303 | 95 | 105 | 4.11 | 0.0 | Joe Gibbon |
| Jamie Callahan | 179 | 7.20 | 4.28 | 0.90 | .303 | 90 | 111 | 4.43 | 0.0 | Rick Greene |
| Sam Wolff | 158 | 10.03 | 5.40 | 1.03 | .304 | 93 | 107 | 4.38 | 0.0 | Gabriel Dehoyos |
| Pierce Johnson | 285 | 9.05 | 4.95 | 0.99 | .301 | 87 | 115 | 4.36 | -0.1 | Ryan Henderson |
| Enderson Franco | 542 | 6.50 | 3.93 | 1.29 | .311 | 78 | 128 | 5.05 | -0.1 | Rick Sutcliffe |
| Jordan Schafer | 148 | 8.91 | 4.59 | 1.08 | .301 | 86 | 116 | 4.35 | -0.1 | C.J. Nitkowski |
| Brandon Beachy | 109 | 5.79 | 5.40 | 1.54 | .293 | 68 | 147 | 6.02 | -0.2 | Jim Abbott |
| Pat Ruotolo | 189 | 10.84 | 4.68 | 1.70 | .305 | 83 | 120 | 4.97 | -0.3 | Lariel Gonzalez |
| Josh Osich | 258 | 7.38 | 4.40 | 1.10 | .301 | 84 | 119 | 4.72 | -0.3 | John Curtis |
| Casey Kelly | 586 | 6.11 | 3.09 | 1.44 | .307 | 76 | 132 | 5.07 | -0.3 | Jim Magrane |
| Joan Gregorio | 357 | 8.09 | 4.44 | 1.59 | .301 | 74 | 136 | 5.29 | -0.3 | Carl Dale |
| Melvin Adon | 379 | 6.19 | 5.74 | 1.01 | .309 | 73 | 137 | 5.34 | -0.4 | Rich Dorman |
| Carlos Diaz | 235 | 7.11 | 6.04 | 0.71 | .299 | 82 | 122 | 4.79 | -0.4 | Brian Adams |
| Kieran Lovegrove | 257 | 7.69 | 6.38 | 0.82 | .301 | 83 | 121 | 4.91 | -0.4 | Lloyd Allen |
| Garrett Williams | 423 | 6.72 | 6.83 | 0.82 | .304 | 74 | 134 | 5.31 | -0.4 | Ken Chase |
| Jose Valdez | 253 | 8.56 | 5.93 | 1.32 | .299 | 77 | 129 | 5.29 | -0.6 | Marty McLeary |
| Taylor Hill | 478 | 4.47 | 2.62 | 1.52 | .303 | 72 | 139 | 5.39 | -0.6 | Allen Davis |
| Tyler Beede | 464 | 7.55 | 5.45 | 1.36 | .310 | 71 | 141 | 5.44 | -0.7 | Julien Tucker |
| Jordan Johnson | 535 | 6.48 | 4.92 | 1.48 | .300 | 70 | 143 | 5.67 | -0.8 | Jim Hunter |
| Ryan Halstead | 233 | 7.18 | 2.73 | 2.05 | .300 | 70 | 143 | 5.60 | -0.9 | Dwayne Pollok |
| Michael Connolly | 424 | 5.17 | 3.61 | 1.66 | .305 | 67 | 148 | 5.79 | -1.0 | Scott Shoemaker |
Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2019. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.
Players are listed with their most recent teams, unless I have made a mistake. This is very possible, as a lot of minor-league signings go generally unreported in the offseason.
ZiPS’ projections are based on the American League having a 4.29 ERA and the National League having a 4.15 ERA.
Players who are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information, and a computer isn’t the tool that should project the injury status of, for example, a pitcher who has had Tommy John surgery.
Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by me, Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in full release of ZiPS. Finally, I will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on a depth chart to produce projected team WAR.
Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
The Giants are that desperate ex who tries to cling on way past the restraining order.
Damn, that outfield is terrible.
Wait until they add Ellsbury.
He might actually be an improvement.
I think this is probably the most fun roster in the league to argue about, because (a) the stakes are so low, with them not being a serious threat to anyone now or anytime soon and (b) there are a lot of players in decline, so you can reasonably disagree about how bad things are going to get.
For example, Pablo Sandoval wasn’t terrible at the plate last year, so you can imagine him as a backup for Longoria/Belt. Belt and Crawford have now had 2 consecutive 2-win seasons, so projecting 3.7 wins looks kind of rich at first, but both their hard-hit rates was actually really good last year, so maybe a bounce-back is possible. The projection systems seem to think that Posey had bad luck in addition to a decline last year, and that’s possible, although the elite defense is probably gone. Samardzija has great peripherals; Bumgarner’s a real wild-card; Derek Holland was surprisingly good last year; and Drew Pomeranz was actually pretty good when his career wasn’t being wrecked by injuries. This is a team that could be at about .500, or it could win 65 games.
The one guy here who could make a huge leap forward is Chris Stratton. Check out his spin rate sometime; it’s pretty amazing.
Welcome to season six of Samardzija has great peripherals.
Samardzija biggest problem is the tool that sits on his shoulders.
It sure feels that way, but it actually isn’t true. He dramatically underperformed his peripherals the last 2 years and in 2013 (and to a lesser extent in 2015), but his estimators and ERA were similar or better in 2016, 2014, and 2012. He definitely underperforms his peripherals, but he’s not Ricky Nolasco.
Sandoval is on the roster for one reason only and its name is Bruce Bochy. There’s hope that the former Kung Fu Panda will be invited to find another team this spring. Let’s keep those fingers crossed.
“Did someone in the organization finish last in their fantasy baseball league, and this is their punishment?” lol, poor Panda, he was so fun once.
I don’t see how even a short term Bryce Harper really fixes this team. I’d be pretty disappointed if he signs in the Bay. I’d like to see either a real contender get him, or one of the teams with the rebuild juuuuust around the corner (White Sox, Padres). Would be more exciting to watch, in my opinion.
Also, I have no idea why Harper would ever sign here on a short-term deal. That ballpark swallows left-handed power, and while Harper has the sort of power that would play there, he’d be much better off signing off with another team to boost his numbers…the Dodgers, Twins, and Braves all come to mind. And of course, the White Sox would be a good place to boost his numbers on a short-term deal, and the Nationals wouldn’t be too bad.
I agree, if he isn’t getting the mega deal he wants, surely he’d prefer somewhere that would boost his numbers, not suppress them? Seeing him on the Braves would be a lot of fun, I keep forgetting about them as the “rebuilding team about to turn the corner” because they are already good. I guess they don’t seem to have much interest though. For some reason.
If Harper signs with the Giants, be on the lookout for the new, quickly-built luxury right field box seats that makes one feel they’re sitting next to the right fielder… because they are.
Hmmm, surprised by Duggar’s poor defensive projection.
Pitiful team.
On the one hand, that’s one heck of a player comp for Brandon Beachy.
As someone who grew up crying at Giant losses late at night under the covers with a transistor radio, I’ve luckily grown up enough to resist the “battered spouse syndrome” anyone who is still a Giant fan with half an IQ, has to have at this point. I’m safe now because I don’t care anymore. I have my fantasy team. But how did this happen to a once proud franchise? A franchise that for years was the outfielder machine of the National League, and which literally hasn’t produced one since Chili Davis?
The answer is two words: Brian (“I am not an idiot”) Sabean. His “old school” incompetence was semi-masked for years by the greatest hitter since Mays, the Magowan signed Barry Bonds, and the lucky Lincecum/Bumgarner outlier years. Proving once and for all that it really IS better in life to be lucky than good.
The future all too apparent to anyone paying attention as Bonds neared the end (as the team paid zero attention to their minor leaguers, zero interest in player drafting, zero attention to the value of HRs in the modern era, and the complete ignorance of the Park Adjusted overvaluation of their pitching, and the need for extreme run production to offset the extreme park bias, have been the hallmarks of the Sabean era. ) He literally clings to his Randy Winn theory of offense, and that “a lot of singles” is the way to win.
The wreckage we see on the field (signed to long term contracts!) is the result. It will take more than cast off Dodger execs, and years of drafting by “smart people” (something the Giant’s “braintrust” obviously hates) to fix. And since it now costs a minimum 50 bucks to go witness the current torture session called the SF Giants, I won’t be there to witness a turnaround. Even if it miraculously happens in my lifetime.
If Harper signs, his BA will be around .220, which should mirror the Giant’s winning percentage. The present is grim at (plug in the corporate name) but thanks to years of mismanagement, this team’s future promises to be even worse.
Go Giants!
The Giants are an analog team in a digital age. In any case, you’re off the beam about Sabean. It’s far more complex than that.
Three WS titles in five years and you’re bitching about the FO that brought them? Unreal
I get where this guy is coming from. The 2010 team was pretty good with prime Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, Brian Wilson but even that team had some ‘luck’ getting 12 War from Torres and Huff and then Burrell. They were not the best team in the league, but they were good and they won. The 2012 and 2014 teams were fluky in that I don’t know if they were even top 10-12 teams in the league those years but they go in and somehow won, so it counts.
However, a lot of this was due to Posey, Lincecum/Bumgarner and a whole lot of ‘luck’ finding the Burrell’s and Scuraro’s of the world and having them work out and then some luck in the playoffs as well. But they still won!
See, I think you could just as easily say that it’s very, very difficult to develop a core that good – all three players peaks were elite. It wasn’t a new roster philosophy. The 2000s Cards teams did this, repeatedly.
You could also argue every WS winner is lucky to a degree because it is very hard for mostly everyone to stay healthy and mostly everything to go right for seven full months.
Results speak for themselves. Everyone shit all over Dayton Moore for years, and then once a small market team actually got the damn banner, suddenly everyone treated a deep bullpen like it was some brand new concept.
In general, I think people are just fucking assholes to each other, and baseball is no different.
“In general, I think people are just fucking assholes to each other, and baseball is no different.“
Congratulations! You have achieved enlightenment.
Talk about historical revisionism.
The 2010 Giants were right there with the Phillies as the best team in the NL. The Giants had the best pitching in all of baseball and an league average offense. The Phillies had a 97-65 record while the Giants had a 92-70 record. But their Pythagorean records were nearly identical 95-67 (Phillies) and 94-68 (Giants). The Giants had the second best run differential in the NL. The Giants split the season series with the Phillies and beat the Phillies in the NLCS in six games. Taken everything together the Giants were just as good as the Phillies in 2010.
The 2012 Giants had the second best OPS+ in the NL. They were third in team BA and fourth in team OBP overall. But it was on the road that the Giants really shined. The Giants led the entire NL in runs scored on the road by 46 runs. The Giants had the highest road team BA and highest road team OBP. They finished second in road team SLG. Their pitching was down in 2012 as the offense carried the team. This was remarkable because the 2012 Giants finished last in home runs. They were the first team to win the World Series and finish last in home runs since the 1982 St. Louis Cardinals. Then in the postseason the Giants played tough baseball coming back from 3-1 deficits twice. That was amazing to watch.
I have to agree that the 2014 Giants were a rather weak regular season team for a World Series champion. They were the second wildcard team and only had a +51 run differential. But Madison Bumgarner put on a pitching show for the ages. In 52.1 IP MadBum had a 1.03 ERA, 47 K, 6 BB, only 28 hits allowed. His game 7 performance is stuff of legends.
I’ll always remember Larry Bigbie as the guy who raced a horse at AAA Rochester.
http://www.espn.com/horse/news/2002/0823/1421826.html
I get they are a big budget team but that’s why they are in the perfect position to rebuild. Can carry the dead weight salaries and move the ones with surplus value. They also have fringe Major league youngsters who need to play, ( Shaw, Anderson, beede, black, Garcia) and really young or raw guys (Ramos, luciano, canario, Santos) and a really good quick moving prospect in Bart who can be a foundation piece.
The 2010-2014 Teams were built by drafting an excellent core of pitchers. Cain, lincecum, Bumgarner, Romo, and Wilson. Then supplemented it by drafting/ developing a solid core of position player. Posey, Panda, Crawford, Belt and Panik. Made some under the radar free agent signings. Renteria, Uribe, affeldt, Torres, Blanco, vogelsong, Burrell, Huff, and Casilla. Traded for Vetrans players from the farm to supplement them Pence, Pagan, Lopez, F. Sanchez, and Scootro. Made some bigger not so wise free agent signings Rowand, and Zito. Zito’s game 5 start against the Cards was a career defining moment. To rip the front office that built these teams seems really odd. They also built the 2002 penant winning team. As a 53 year old life long Giants fan I have some amazing memories of this great run. Flags fly forever!
Can they rebuilt ofn the fly again? Maybe. They have plenty of money to build organizational depth and then supplement it with free agents. They’ll be fortunate to finish .500. But man i’ll Take ten years of suck after having the most amazing baseball run of my life!!!
How the heck did Duggar get a -5 for his defense! If anything it would be at least +5, which would boost him to about average WAR, if not +15, which his OAA suggests. All the defensive metrics I saw (BB-Ref, StatCast OAA) had his significantly good at defense, so does this projection mean that he was that really bad in the minors?