2019 ZiPS Projections – San Francisco Giants

After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for more than half a decade. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the San Francisco Giants.

Batters

Be very careful when scrolling down to look at the depth chart. The way these things work, the first thing you’ll see is the outfield, which is likely to remain an absolutely brutal mess, one that couldn’t even be half-solved by a Ronald Acuña/Juan Soto-esque rise to power by Heliot Ramos, one of San Francisco’s few top prospects. Let’s put it this way: ZiPS projects Rule 5 draftee Drew Ferguson to be arguably the best outfielder on the team, with two of the other top outfielders being a minor-league signing and a waiver claim from the Rangers. The good news is that most of the group actually projects above replacement-level, so there’s a weird amount of adequacy in terms of the depth, but the projections give absolutely none of the team’s current group a chance to have much of an upside.

Things get sunnier when you look at the infield, which is the primary reason the Giants are likely to still be projected above the Padres for one last run (though probably just for one, unless the Padres are notably unlucky or incompetent). ZiPS essentially projects improvement for all of the team’s infield starters, kind of a rarity given the generally justifiable grumpy conservativeness to which projections systems are prone. The quality of the infield lends itself well to the argument that the Giants probably ought to have won more games last year. Not enough to be a playoff team, mind you, but at least enough to tone down the bleakness.

The worrisome thing about the offense is that most of the highlight players are at ages where their downsides can still hit like a ton of bricks and fast, and there’s no counterbalancing breakout potential. To the team’s credit, they’ve given every indication they realize that the outfield is bit of a tire fire. The Giants were in on all of the Marlins outfielders last winter, brought in Andrew McCutchen for 2018 (before trading him to the Yankees), and are now courting Bryce Harper. If any team is able to convince Harper to sign a shorter-term contract, San Francisco seems like a possibility; a superstar season from Harper could get the team into plausible contention, given their outfield weakness. And time is of the essence — if the infield starters don’t bounce back, this team is absolute toast.

I am still confused as to the baseball purpose of Pablo Sandoval remaining on the roster. Did someone in the organization finish last in their fantasy baseball league, and this is their punishment?

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Pitchers

Johnny Cueto could theoretically return in September, but I think the smart money is still on him not making an appearance until 2020. Which, in addition to being unfortunate for Cueto, is rather bad timing for the Giants, who are less likely to be playing meaningful games in 2020 than this year.

Madison Bumgarner only gets a two-WAR projection, but that’s over just 147 innings, due largely to his attendance over the last two seasons, when he’s missed time due to freak injuries, one caused by something somewhat unusual (a dirt bike), the other by something somewhat mundane (a line drive). Since no elbow or shoulders were involved, I’m more optimistic about Bumgarner getting back to the 200 inning range than the projections are, which would boost his WAR to around three. ZiPS projects Dereck Rodriguez to be roughly league-average, which will be disappointing to Giants fans after a season in which Rodriguez was one of the team’s few highlights, but he has a very short record track record and a low K rate, so ZiPS isn’t putting him on the Kyle Hendricks pile yet. He’s certainly unlikely to repeat the 0.68 HR/9, even playing in Oracle Park.

The bullpen isn’t flashy, but the front-end is solidly above-average, and the team’s depth projects as more than adequate for its needs. San Francisco has shown an ability to turn random pieces into good relievers, and has a solid record with reclamation projects, such as Sam Dyson.

Bench and Prospects

After Joey Bart and Heliot Ramos, both likely to get official projections next year, the cupboard gets bare quickly. ZiPS does project Shaun Anderson to be a decent No. 3 starter for a time in his prime, and it has a long-term fascination with Conner Menez, but there’s just not much there there. Honestly, if the Giants had better prospects after their top two guys, I’d expect them to already have been traded for a starting pitcher. Most teams have a position player or two who ZiPS thinks projects better than the scouting reports indicate, but I’m just not seeing anybody here. Despite playing in the Pacific Coast League, Triple-A Sacramento only had one player who hit 15 homers (Chris Shaw).

One pedantic note for 2019: for the WAR graphic, I’m using FanGraphs’ depth chart playing time, not the playing time ZiPS spits out, so there will be occasional differences in WAR totals.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here at site.

Batters – Counting Stats
Player B Age PO G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS
Buster Posey R 32 C 115 423 53 122 24 1 8 53 48 56 4 1
Brandon Crawford L 32 SS 143 507 59 129 29 4 14 67 46 115 4 4
Brandon Belt L 31 1B 117 416 57 104 25 3 15 53 62 122 4 1
Joe Panik L 28 2B 122 444 57 122 24 4 7 44 40 47 4 1
Evan Longoria R 33 3B 136 528 58 136 31 3 16 65 34 105 3 1
Alen Hanson B 26 2B 132 398 51 99 18 8 9 42 21 88 17 7
Breyvic Valera B 27 2B 126 424 50 113 16 4 5 38 37 48 7 7
Anthony Garcia R 27 LF 126 449 60 111 25 1 16 56 43 108 3 2
Drew Ferguson R 26 CF 92 348 45 85 18 2 6 31 39 101 9 6
Austin Slater R 26 RF 118 411 48 105 22 2 8 48 34 113 9 4
Stephen Vogt L 34 C 116 373 40 92 20 2 12 47 34 75 0 1
John Andreoli R 29 LF 115 420 52 94 19 4 6 35 51 130 20 7
Steven Duggar L 25 CF 117 467 55 116 26 4 6 42 46 139 13 6
Brock Stassi L 29 1B 89 286 35 68 16 1 6 30 37 67 0 1
Mac Williamson R 28 LF 101 348 46 81 17 1 14 43 30 103 3 2
Abiatal Avelino R 24 SS 132 489 53 119 20 6 9 43 26 108 16 6
Henry Ramos B 27 CF 99 347 39 91 17 3 7 35 24 75 6 4
Donovan Solano R 31 SS 110 397 39 102 22 1 4 33 16 61 2 1
Jerry Sands R 31 1B 93 307 36 71 16 1 10 36 33 88 2 1
Ryan Howard R 24 SS 120 465 47 118 23 3 4 41 27 77 6 4
Cameron Rupp R 30 C 90 311 31 67 15 1 10 34 29 110 0 0
Aramis Garcia R 26 C 101 386 40 84 17 1 11 41 22 128 0 1
Cesar Puello R 28 LF 90 315 42 78 14 2 6 30 29 85 8 4
Levi Michael B 28 SS 103 375 44 85 16 3 6 30 26 114 9 4
Ryder Jones L 25 3B 124 458 50 108 24 3 11 47 25 117 3 2
Mike Gerber L 26 CF 108 411 46 89 19 3 12 44 29 148 5 3
Rene Rivera R 35 C 61 173 14 37 7 0 5 21 10 58 0 0
Jin-De Jhang L 26 C 62 230 22 55 10 1 2 18 13 34 1 1
Ali Castillo R 30 3B 107 355 33 86 14 2 2 26 16 47 7 7
Ronnie Freeman R 28 C 71 231 22 52 9 1 3 17 14 57 0 0
Trevor Brown R 27 C 58 179 16 39 8 0 2 13 13 40 2 0
Caleb Gindl L 30 LF 84 266 27 60 12 2 4 24 22 64 1 2
Miguel Gomez B 26 2B 118 437 43 112 22 4 8 45 10 73 1 0
C.J. Hinojosa R 24 SS 102 395 40 92 18 2 4 31 29 68 6 4
Eury Perez R 29 RF 73 219 23 57 9 3 1 19 11 38 13 5
Pablo Sandoval B 32 3B 92 293 28 70 13 1 8 35 20 60 0 0
Zach Green R 25 1B 106 385 43 80 22 2 12 46 26 155 1 1
Chris Shaw L 25 LF 131 495 55 113 27 2 19 62 30 175 1 0
Peter Maris L 25 2B 87 317 35 72 12 3 6 28 27 72 5 5
Hamlet Marte R 25 C 72 265 27 56 12 1 6 23 17 95 2 1
Luigi Rodriguez B 26 RF 100 362 39 78 14 3 11 37 23 138 10 8
Myles Schroder R 31 1B 93 322 30 67 13 2 6 27 14 97 5 3
Heath Quinn R 24 LF 92 350 37 75 15 0 8 32 28 126 3 1
Matt Winn R 26 C 93 326 31 54 13 1 8 28 27 163 0 0
Sandro Fabian R 21 RF 120 455 43 91 20 1 10 41 18 138 2 3
Josh Rutledge R 30 2B 57 170 16 34 6 1 2 11 11 57 1 1
Jalen Miller R 22 2B 130 524 53 115 26 2 8 46 25 145 8 5

 

Batters – Rate Stats
Player PA BA OBP SLG OPS+ ISO BABIP RC/27 Def WAR No. 1 Comp
Buster Posey 479 .288 .363 .407 109 .118 .318 5.7 7 3.8 Earl Battey
Brandon Crawford 566 .254 .320 .410 97 .156 .304 4.7 9 3.2 Jay Bell
Brandon Belt 484 .250 .351 .433 112 .183 .319 5.5 8 2.8 Leon Durham
Joe Panik 495 .275 .337 .394 98 .119 .295 5.0 0 2.0 Jeff Treadway
Evan Longoria 574 .258 .305 .419 94 .161 .295 4.7 1 1.9 Tim Wallach
Alen Hanson 427 .249 .286 .402 84 .153 .299 4.2 3 1.3 Luis Rivas
Breyvic Valera 470 .267 .324 .358 86 .092 .291 4.1 2 1.2 Wallace Johnson
Anthony Garcia 506 .247 .323 .414 99 .167 .292 4.8 -2 1.1 Kurt Bierek
Drew Ferguson 396 .244 .329 .359 87 .115 .328 4.1 -1 1.0 Larry Bigbie
Austin Slater 455 .255 .319 .377 89 .122 .334 4.4 1 0.9 Ruben Mateo
Stephen Vogt 413 .247 .310 .408 93 .161 .280 4.5 -8 0.8 Bill Freehan
John Andreoli 478 .224 .311 .331 75 .107 .310 3.7 7 0.8 Reggie Williams
Steven Duggar 517 .248 .317 .360 84 .111 .342 4.1 -5 0.7 Rich Becker
Brock Stassi 328 .238 .326 .364 88 .126 .291 4.1 3 0.7 Ray Giannelli
Mac Williamson 386 .233 .303 .408 91 .175 .290 4.3 0 0.7 Scott Bryant
Abiatal Avelino 523 .243 .285 .364 75 .121 .296 3.8 -3 0.6 Hector Luna
Henry Ramos 378 .262 .309 .389 88 .127 .317 4.3 -4 0.5 Andrew Locke
Donovan Solano 421 .257 .288 .348 72 .091 .295 3.6 -1 0.4 Alvaro Espinoza
Jerry Sands 344 .231 .308 .388 88 .156 .292 4.2 1 0.4 Jarrod Patterson
Ryan Howard 503 .254 .298 .342 74 .088 .297 3.6 -4 0.4 Dean DeCillis
Cameron Rupp 344 .215 .285 .367 76 .151 .298 3.6 -4 0.4 Chad Moeller
Aramis Garcia 413 .218 .264 .352 66 .135 .296 3.2 1 0.4 Alvin Colina
Cesar Puello 360 .248 .329 .362 88 .114 .321 4.3 -2 0.3 Domingo Michel
Levi Michael 416 .227 .295 .333 71 .107 .310 3.5 -3 0.3 Doug Baker
Ryder Jones 493 .236 .282 .373 76 .138 .294 3.7 -2 0.3 Brennan King
Mike Gerber 447 .217 .271 .365 71 .148 .307 3.4 0 0.2 Justin Bowles
Rene Rivera 188 .214 .267 .341 64 .127 .291 3.1 0 0.1 Shawn Wooten
Jin-De Jhang 247 .239 .280 .317 62 .078 .273 3.1 0 0.1 Dave Miley
Ali Castillo 379 .242 .276 .310 59 .068 .275 2.8 7 0.1 Robert Eenhoorn
Ronnie Freeman 249 .225 .270 .312 58 .087 .287 2.9 1 0.0 Kyle Geiger
Trevor Brown 195 .218 .278 .296 57 .078 .270 3.0 -1 -0.1 David Duff
Caleb Gindl 292 .226 .285 .331 67 .105 .283 3.2 2 -0.2 Jeff Wetherby
Miguel Gomez 451 .256 .273 .380 75 .124 .292 3.8 -6 -0.2 Donnie Hill
C.J. Hinojosa 432 .233 .287 .319 65 .086 .272 3.2 -4 -0.2 Keoni DeRenne
Eury Perez 239 .260 .303 .342 75 .082 .311 3.9 -2 -0.3 Jason Bourgeois
Pablo Sandoval 319 .239 .292 .372 79 .133 .276 3.8 -7 -0.3 Geoff Blum
Zach Green 422 .208 .270 .369 72 .161 .312 3.4 1 -0.4 Ryan Mulhern
Chris Shaw 533 .228 .278 .406 83 .178 .312 4.0 -7 -0.4 Glenn Davis
Peter Maris 351 .227 .287 .341 70 .114 .276 3.3 -5 -0.4 Chris Lombardozzi
Hamlet Marte 285 .211 .257 .332 59 .121 .305 2.9 -6 -0.7 David Ross
Luigi Rodriguez 391 .215 .264 .362 68 .146 .315 3.1 0 -0.7 Tony Barron
Myles Schroder 348 .208 .255 .317 54 .109 .279 2.7 5 -0.8 Marc Sagmoen
Heath Quinn 384 .214 .279 .326 64 .111 .310 3.1 -2 -0.8 Lance Hallberg
Matt Winn 357 .166 .233 .285 40 .120 .297 2.2 -1 -0.9 Steve Lomasney
Sandro Fabian 485 .200 .238 .314 49 .114 .264 2.4 10 -0.9 John Lindsey
Josh Rutledge 184 .200 .255 .282 46 .082 .288 2.4 -4 -0.9 Paul Hoover
Jalen Miller 559 .219 .261 .323 58 .103 .288 2.9 -3 -1.0 Chris Patten

 

Pitchers – Counting Stats
Player T Age W L ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO
Madison Bumgarner L 29 8 8 3.86 24 24 147.0 139 63 21 37 135
Johnny Cueto R 33 7 7 3.92 22 22 133.0 131 58 17 35 110
Dereck Rodriguez R 27 7 7 4.19 27 26 146.0 150 68 18 45 114
Drew Pomeranz L 30 7 8 4.42 28 21 116.0 111 57 14 57 107
Derek Holland L 32 7 8 4.54 29 25 134.7 135 68 19 56 118
Jeff Samardzija R 34 7 8 4.59 22 22 131.3 134 67 19 35 109
Will Smith L 29 3 2 2.94 57 0 52.0 41 17 5 17 69
Tony Watson L 34 5 4 3.17 66 0 59.7 54 21 6 15 57
Andrew Suarez L 26 9 11 4.60 30 29 162.3 176 83 24 47 130
Conner Menez L 24 8 10 4.52 27 27 125.3 123 63 14 74 115
Carlos Navas R 26 4 4 3.93 43 1 68.7 66 30 7 24 63
Reyes Moronta R 26 4 3 3.39 65 0 58.3 44 22 4 36 74
Mark Melancon R 34 2 2 3.22 47 0 44.7 43 16 3 11 35
Ty Blach L 28 7 9 4.55 37 18 128.7 143 65 14 36 73
Chris Stratton R 28 8 11 4.73 28 26 144.7 155 76 18 57 111
Keyvius Sampson R 28 8 10 4.69 26 19 126.7 106 66 15 76 129
Derek Law R 28 3 3 3.67 49 0 56.3 54 23 4 20 49
Sam Dyson R 31 4 4 3.84 64 0 58.7 58 25 5 20 44
Shaun Anderson R 24 6 9 4.86 25 24 129.7 142 70 20 41 97
Logan Webb R 22 3 4 4.81 27 24 88.0 91 47 11 42 70
Chase Johnson R 27 3 4 4.74 19 17 62.7 68 33 6 29 40
Dillon McNamara R 27 3 3 4.21 39 1 51.3 51 24 5 23 44
Ray Black R 29 3 3 3.94 56 0 48.0 33 21 5 34 77
Tyler Rogers R 28 3 3 4.02 52 0 65.0 65 29 4 28 47
Sam Coonrod R 26 5 7 4.89 22 18 95.7 99 52 12 49 79
Pat Venditte R 34 3 3 4.44 38 0 48.7 46 24 6 24 45
Jake Barrett R 27 2 3 4.03 53 0 58.0 52 26 6 31 62
Sam Moll L 27 2 2 4.02 40 0 47.0 48 21 4 18 37
Travis Bergen L 25 3 3 4.13 30 0 28.3 26 13 3 13 27
Steven Okert L 27 2 2 4.10 52 0 48.3 46 22 7 16 49
Tyler Herb R 27 5 8 5.17 21 21 108.0 120 62 14 49 73
Manny Parra L 36 2 2 4.14 39 0 45.7 46 21 3 23 35
Jamie Callahan R 24 3 3 4.50 29 1 40.0 41 20 4 19 32
Sam Wolff R 28 2 3 4.37 29 0 35.0 32 17 4 21 39
Pierce Johnson R 28 3 3 4.52 45 3 63.7 60 32 7 35 64
Enderson Franco R 26 6 9 5.22 26 21 119.0 135 69 17 52 86
Jordan Schafer L 32 1 1 4.59 27 1 33.3 32 17 4 17 33
Brandon Beachy R 32 1 1 5.79 6 6 23.3 26 15 4 14 15
Pat Ruotolo R 24 2 3 4.89 41 0 42.3 40 23 8 22 51
Josh Osich L 30 1 1 4.71 54 1 57.3 59 30 7 28 47
Casey Kelly R 29 7 11 5.22 28 23 131.0 151 76 21 45 89
Joan Gregorio R 27 4 6 5.35 20 15 79.0 83 47 14 39 71
Melvin Adon R 25 4 6 5.40 19 16 80.0 89 48 9 51 55
Carlos Diaz L 25 2 3 4.80 40 0 50.7 50 27 4 34 40
Kieran Lovegrove R 24 2 3 4.91 42 0 55.0 54 30 5 39 47
Garrett Williams L 24 5 8 5.30 31 16 88.3 92 52 8 67 66
Jose Valdez R 29 3 4 5.27 45 0 54.7 54 32 8 36 52
Taylor Hill R 30 5 9 5.48 23 19 106.7 130 65 18 31 53
Tyler Beede R 26 5 9 5.55 30 17 99.0 108 61 15 60 83
Jordan Johnson R 25 6 11 5.62 24 23 115.3 128 72 19 63 83
Ryan Halstead R 27 2 4 5.64 38 0 52.7 60 33 12 16 42
Michael Connolly R 27 4 8 5.85 25 14 92.3 112 60 17 37 53

 

Pitchers – Rate Stats
Player TBF K/9 BB/9 HR/9 BABIP ERA+ ERA- FIP WAR No. 1 Comp
Madison Bumgarner 612 8.27 2.27 1.29 .285 102 98 4.03 2.0 Bud Black
Johnny Cueto 561 7.44 2.37 1.15 .290 100 100 4.08 1.7 Bob Forsch
Dereck Rodriguez 630 7.03 2.77 1.11 .297 97 103 4.28 1.7 Steve Fireovid
Drew Pomeranz 511 8.30 4.42 1.09 .294 92 109 4.43 1.0 Rich Robertson
Derek Holland 590 7.89 3.74 1.27 .296 90 112 4.59 1.0 Shawn Estes
Jeff Samardzija 557 7.47 2.40 1.30 .295 89 113 4.26 0.9 Bill Gullickson
Will Smith 212 11.94 2.94 0.87 .300 134 75 2.78 0.9 Ken Dayley
Tony Watson 247 8.60 2.26 0.91 .289 124 80 3.45 0.8 Tony Castillo
Andrew Suarez 705 7.21 2.61 1.33 .306 86 117 4.47 0.8 Bobby Livingston
Conner Menez 571 8.26 5.31 1.01 .302 87 115 4.71 0.8 Trevor Wilson
Carlos Navas 295 8.26 3.15 0.92 .299 103 97 3.86 0.6 Daryl Irvine
Reyes Moronta 253 11.42 5.55 0.62 .290 116 86 3.41 0.6 Brian Wilson
Mark Melancon 186 7.05 2.22 0.60 .294 122 82 3.26 0.6 Dick Coffman
Ty Blach 557 5.11 2.52 0.98 .299 87 115 4.34 0.5 Mike Caldwell
Chris Stratton 640 6.91 3.55 1.12 .305 83 120 4.52 0.5 Kevin Hodges
Keyvius Sampson 558 9.17 5.40 1.07 .273 84 119 4.57 0.4 Victor Zambrano
Derek Law 241 7.83 3.20 0.64 .301 107 93 3.51 0.3 Mark Lee
Sam Dyson 253 6.75 3.07 0.77 .293 103 97 3.93 0.3 Jack Aker
Shaun Anderson 569 6.73 2.85 1.39 .302 81 123 4.77 0.3 Mike Lincoln
Logan Webb 396 7.16 4.30 1.13 .300 82 122 4.82 0.2 Jesus Silva
Chase Johnson 284 5.74 4.16 0.86 .302 83 120 4.70 0.2 Sean White
Dillon McNamara 227 7.71 4.03 0.88 .303 97 103 4.22 0.1 Casey Daigle
Ray Black 211 14.44 6.38 0.94 .301 100 100 3.55 0.1 Dwayne Henry
Tyler Rogers 287 6.51 3.88 0.55 .299 98 102 3.98 0.1 Bruce Dal Canton
Sam Coonrod 434 7.43 4.61 1.13 .302 81 124 4.85 0.1 Allen Edwards
Pat Venditte 216 8.32 4.44 1.11 .290 92 109 4.57 0.1 Jim Czajkowski
Jake Barrett 256 9.62 4.81 0.93 .299 98 102 4.12 0.1 George Smith
Sam Moll 205 7.09 3.45 0.77 .306 98 102 3.96 0.1 Jim Crawford
Travis Bergen 124 8.58 4.13 0.95 .291 99 101 4.21 0.1 Mike Venafro
Steven Okert 207 9.12 2.98 1.30 .295 96 104 4.18 0.1 Javier Lopez
Tyler Herb 490 6.08 4.08 1.17 .305 79 127 5.01 0.0 Ben Fritz
Manny Parra 205 6.90 4.53 0.59 .303 95 105 4.11 0.0 Joe Gibbon
Jamie Callahan 179 7.20 4.28 0.90 .303 90 111 4.43 0.0 Rick Greene
Sam Wolff 158 10.03 5.40 1.03 .304 93 107 4.38 0.0 Gabriel Dehoyos
Pierce Johnson 285 9.05 4.95 0.99 .301 87 115 4.36 -0.1 Ryan Henderson
Enderson Franco 542 6.50 3.93 1.29 .311 78 128 5.05 -0.1 Rick Sutcliffe
Jordan Schafer 148 8.91 4.59 1.08 .301 86 116 4.35 -0.1 C.J. Nitkowski
Brandon Beachy 109 5.79 5.40 1.54 .293 68 147 6.02 -0.2 Jim Abbott
Pat Ruotolo 189 10.84 4.68 1.70 .305 83 120 4.97 -0.3 Lariel Gonzalez
Josh Osich 258 7.38 4.40 1.10 .301 84 119 4.72 -0.3 John Curtis
Casey Kelly 586 6.11 3.09 1.44 .307 76 132 5.07 -0.3 Jim Magrane
Joan Gregorio 357 8.09 4.44 1.59 .301 74 136 5.29 -0.3 Carl Dale
Melvin Adon 379 6.19 5.74 1.01 .309 73 137 5.34 -0.4 Rich Dorman
Carlos Diaz 235 7.11 6.04 0.71 .299 82 122 4.79 -0.4 Brian Adams
Kieran Lovegrove 257 7.69 6.38 0.82 .301 83 121 4.91 -0.4 Lloyd Allen
Garrett Williams 423 6.72 6.83 0.82 .304 74 134 5.31 -0.4 Ken Chase
Jose Valdez 253 8.56 5.93 1.32 .299 77 129 5.29 -0.6 Marty McLeary
Taylor Hill 478 4.47 2.62 1.52 .303 72 139 5.39 -0.6 Allen Davis
Tyler Beede 464 7.55 5.45 1.36 .310 71 141 5.44 -0.7 Julien Tucker
Jordan Johnson 535 6.48 4.92 1.48 .300 70 143 5.67 -0.8 Jim Hunter
Ryan Halstead 233 7.18 2.73 2.05 .300 70 143 5.60 -0.9 Dwayne Pollok
Michael Connolly 424 5.17 3.61 1.66 .305 67 148 5.79 -1.0 Scott Shoemaker

 

Disclaimer: ZiPS projections are computer-based projections of performance. Performances have not been allocated to predicted playing time in the majors — many of the players listed above are unlikely to play in the majors at all in 2019. ZiPS is projecting equivalent production — a .240 ZiPS projection may end up being .280 in AAA or .300 in AA, for example. Whether or not a player will play is one of many non-statistical factors one has to take into account when predicting the future.

Players are listed with their most recent teams, unless I have made a mistake. This is very possible, as a lot of minor-league signings go generally unreported in the offseason.

ZiPS’ projections are based on the American League having a 4.29 ERA and the National League having a 4.15 ERA.

Players who are expected to be out due to injury are still projected. More information is always better than less information, and a computer isn’t the tool that should project the injury status of, for example, a pitcher who has had Tommy John surgery.

Both hitters and pitchers are ranked by projected zWAR — which is to say, WAR values as calculated by me, Dan Szymborski, whose surname is spelled with a z. WAR values might differ slightly from those which appear in full release of ZiPS. Finally, I will advise anyone against — and might karate chop anyone guilty of — merely adding up WAR totals on a depth chart to produce projected team WAR.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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Spitball McPhee
7 years ago

The Giants are that desperate ex who tries to cling on way past the restraining order.

Johnston
7 years ago

Damn, that outfield is terrible.

Cave Dameron
7 years ago
Reply to  Johnston

Wait until they add Ellsbury.

Tanned Tom
7 years ago
Reply to  Cave Dameron

He might actually be an improvement.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

I think this is probably the most fun roster in the league to argue about, because (a) the stakes are so low, with them not being a serious threat to anyone now or anytime soon and (b) there are a lot of players in decline, so you can reasonably disagree about how bad things are going to get.

For example, Pablo Sandoval wasn’t terrible at the plate last year, so you can imagine him as a backup for Longoria/Belt. Belt and Crawford have now had 2 consecutive 2-win seasons, so projecting 3.7 wins looks kind of rich at first, but both their hard-hit rates was actually really good last year, so maybe a bounce-back is possible. The projection systems seem to think that Posey had bad luck in addition to a decline last year, and that’s possible, although the elite defense is probably gone. Samardzija has great peripherals; Bumgarner’s a real wild-card; Derek Holland was surprisingly good last year; and Drew Pomeranz was actually pretty good when his career wasn’t being wrecked by injuries. This is a team that could be at about .500, or it could win 65 games.

The one guy here who could make a huge leap forward is Chris Stratton. Check out his spin rate sometime; it’s pretty amazing.

Original Greaser Bob
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Welcome to season six of Samardzija has great peripherals.

channelclemente
7 years ago

Samardzija biggest problem is the tool that sits on his shoulders.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

It sure feels that way, but it actually isn’t true. He dramatically underperformed his peripherals the last 2 years and in 2013 (and to a lesser extent in 2015), but his estimators and ERA were similar or better in 2016, 2014, and 2012. He definitely underperforms his peripherals, but he’s not Ricky Nolasco.

owlcroftMember since 2019
7 years ago

Sandoval is on the roster for one reason only and its name is Bruce Bochy. There’s hope that the former Kung Fu Panda will be invited to find another team this spring. Let’s keep those fingers crossed.

Kevbot034
7 years ago

“Did someone in the organization finish last in their fantasy baseball league, and this is their punishment?” lol, poor Panda, he was so fun once.

I don’t see how even a short term Bryce Harper really fixes this team. I’d be pretty disappointed if he signs in the Bay. I’d like to see either a real contender get him, or one of the teams with the rebuild juuuuust around the corner (White Sox, Padres). Would be more exciting to watch, in my opinion.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  Kevbot034

Also, I have no idea why Harper would ever sign here on a short-term deal. That ballpark swallows left-handed power, and while Harper has the sort of power that would play there, he’d be much better off signing off with another team to boost his numbers…the Dodgers, Twins, and Braves all come to mind. And of course, the White Sox would be a good place to boost his numbers on a short-term deal, and the Nationals wouldn’t be too bad.

Kevbot034
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I agree, if he isn’t getting the mega deal he wants, surely he’d prefer somewhere that would boost his numbers, not suppress them? Seeing him on the Braves would be a lot of fun, I keep forgetting about them as the “rebuilding team about to turn the corner” because they are already good. I guess they don’t seem to have much interest though. For some reason.

LightenUpFGMember since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

If Harper signs with the Giants, be on the lookout for the new, quickly-built luxury right field box seats that makes one feel they’re sitting next to the right fielder… because they are.

TwinPeaks
7 years ago

Hmmm, surprised by Duggar’s poor defensive projection.

scrap1ron
7 years ago

Pitiful team.

Kenny OckerMember since 2020
7 years ago

On the one hand, that’s one heck of a player comp for Brandon Beachy.

recontext
7 years ago

As someone who grew up crying at Giant losses late at night under the covers with a transistor radio, I’ve luckily grown up enough to resist the “battered spouse syndrome” anyone who is still a Giant fan with half an IQ, has to have at this point. I’m safe now because I don’t care anymore. I have my fantasy team. But how did this happen to a once proud franchise? A franchise that for years was the outfielder machine of the National League, and which literally hasn’t produced one since Chili Davis?

The answer is two words: Brian (“I am not an idiot”) Sabean. His “old school” incompetence was semi-masked for years by the greatest hitter since Mays, the Magowan signed Barry Bonds, and the lucky Lincecum/Bumgarner outlier years. Proving once and for all that it really IS better in life to be lucky than good.

The future all too apparent to anyone paying attention as Bonds neared the end (as the team paid zero attention to their minor leaguers, zero interest in player drafting, zero attention to the value of HRs in the modern era, and the complete ignorance of the Park Adjusted overvaluation of their pitching, and the need for extreme run production to offset the extreme park bias, have been the hallmarks of the Sabean era. ) He literally clings to his Randy Winn theory of offense, and that “a lot of singles” is the way to win.

The wreckage we see on the field (signed to long term contracts!) is the result. It will take more than cast off Dodger execs, and years of drafting by “smart people” (something the Giant’s “braintrust” obviously hates) to fix. And since it now costs a minimum 50 bucks to go witness the current torture session called the SF Giants, I won’t be there to witness a turnaround. Even if it miraculously happens in my lifetime.

If Harper signs, his BA will be around .220, which should mirror the Giant’s winning percentage. The present is grim at (plug in the corporate name) but thanks to years of mismanagement, this team’s future promises to be even worse.

Go Giants!

channelclemente
7 years ago
Reply to  recontext

The Giants are an analog team in a digital age. In any case, you’re off the beam about Sabean. It’s far more complex than that.

rhswanzey
7 years ago
Reply to  recontext

Three WS titles in five years and you’re bitching about the FO that brought them? Unreal

Slappytheclown
7 years ago
Reply to  recontext

I get where this guy is coming from. The 2010 team was pretty good with prime Matt Cain, Tim Lincecum, Brian Wilson but even that team had some ‘luck’ getting 12 War from Torres and Huff and then Burrell. They were not the best team in the league, but they were good and they won. The 2012 and 2014 teams were fluky in that I don’t know if they were even top 10-12 teams in the league those years but they go in and somehow won, so it counts.

However, a lot of this was due to Posey, Lincecum/Bumgarner and a whole lot of ‘luck’ finding the Burrell’s and Scuraro’s of the world and having them work out and then some luck in the playoffs as well. But they still won!

rhswanzey
7 years ago
Reply to  Slappytheclown

See, I think you could just as easily say that it’s very, very difficult to develop a core that good – all three players peaks were elite. It wasn’t a new roster philosophy. The 2000s Cards teams did this, repeatedly.

You could also argue every WS winner is lucky to a degree because it is very hard for mostly everyone to stay healthy and mostly everything to go right for seven full months.

Results speak for themselves. Everyone shit all over Dayton Moore for years, and then once a small market team actually got the damn banner, suddenly everyone treated a deep bullpen like it was some brand new concept.

In general, I think people are just fucking assholes to each other, and baseball is no different.

Johnston
7 years ago
Reply to  rhswanzey

“In general, I think people are just fucking assholes to each other, and baseball is no different.“

Congratulations! You have achieved enlightenment.

Adam C
7 years ago
Reply to  Slappytheclown

Talk about historical revisionism.

The 2010 Giants were right there with the Phillies as the best team in the NL. The Giants had the best pitching in all of baseball and an league average offense. The Phillies had a 97-65 record while the Giants had a 92-70 record. But their Pythagorean records were nearly identical 95-67 (Phillies) and 94-68 (Giants). The Giants had the second best run differential in the NL. The Giants split the season series with the Phillies and beat the Phillies in the NLCS in six games. Taken everything together the Giants were just as good as the Phillies in 2010.

The 2012 Giants had the second best OPS+ in the NL. They were third in team BA and fourth in team OBP overall. But it was on the road that the Giants really shined. The Giants led the entire NL in runs scored on the road by 46 runs. The Giants had the highest road team BA and highest road team OBP. They finished second in road team SLG. Their pitching was down in 2012 as the offense carried the team. This was remarkable because the 2012 Giants finished last in home runs. They were the first team to win the World Series and finish last in home runs since the 1982 St. Louis Cardinals. Then in the postseason the Giants played tough baseball coming back from 3-1 deficits twice. That was amazing to watch.

I have to agree that the 2014 Giants were a rather weak regular season team for a World Series champion. They were the second wildcard team and only had a +51 run differential. But Madison Bumgarner put on a pitching show for the ages. In 52.1 IP MadBum had a 1.03 ERA, 47 K, 6 BB, only 28 hits allowed. His game 7 performance is stuff of legends.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
7 years ago

I’ll always remember Larry Bigbie as the guy who raced a horse at AAA Rochester.
http://www.espn.com/horse/news/2002/0823/1421826.html

JediHoyer
7 years ago

I get they are a big budget team but that’s why they are in the perfect position to rebuild. Can carry the dead weight salaries and move the ones with surplus value. They also have fringe Major league youngsters who need to play, ( Shaw, Anderson, beede, black, Garcia) and really young or raw guys (Ramos, luciano, canario, Santos) and a really good quick moving prospect in Bart who can be a foundation piece.

williemaysfield
7 years ago

The 2010-2014 Teams were built by drafting an excellent core of pitchers. Cain, lincecum, Bumgarner, Romo, and Wilson. Then supplemented it by drafting/ developing a solid core of position player. Posey, Panda, Crawford, Belt and Panik. Made some under the radar free agent signings. Renteria, Uribe, affeldt, Torres, Blanco, vogelsong, Burrell, Huff, and Casilla. Traded for Vetrans players from the farm to supplement them Pence, Pagan, Lopez, F. Sanchez, and Scootro. Made some bigger not so wise free agent signings Rowand, and Zito. Zito’s game 5 start against the Cards was a career defining moment. To rip the front office that built these teams seems really odd. They also built the 2002 penant winning team. As a 53 year old life long Giants fan I have some amazing memories of this great run. Flags fly forever!
Can they rebuilt ofn the fly again? Maybe. They have plenty of money to build organizational depth and then supplement it with free agents. They’ll be fortunate to finish .500. But man i’ll Take ten years of suck after having the most amazing baseball run of my life!!!

obsessivegiantscompulsive
7 years ago

How the heck did Duggar get a -5 for his defense! If anything it would be at least +5, which would boost him to about average WAR, if not +15, which his OAA suggests. All the defensive metrics I saw (BB-Ref, StatCast OAA) had his significantly good at defense, so does this projection mean that he was that really bad in the minors?