2022 ZiPS Projections: Washington Nationals
After having typically appeared in the hallowed pages of Baseball Think Factory, Dan Szymborski’s ZiPS projections have now been released at FanGraphs for a decade. The exercise continues this offseason. Below are the projections for the Washington Nationals.
Batters
You can divide Washington’s offense into two distinct parts. The first part is Juan Soto, who got Ted Williams as his top offensive comp. That’s the straight-up, pure, 100% unadulterated Ted Williams comp, too. There’s no trick here; I’m not going to say, “Ha ha! ZiPS was talking about 1980s minor league outfielder Ted Williams.” Soto’s plate discipline is other-worldly. In his best season, Joey Votto was still nearly a quarter more likely to swing at an out-of-the-zone pitch than Soto was as a 22-year-old in 2021.
Soto isn’t going to be the kind of all-around talent that Fernando Tatis Jr. and Ronald Acuña Jr. are, but he’s the best pure hitting talent we’ve had since prime Barry Bonds or Albert Pujols. And unlike a lot of very disciplined hitters, he’s not passive at all against a crushable pitch. Indeed, crushing those pitches is what he does: his bat generates so many barrels that he should start his own bourbon distillery. If Soto actually has an improvement left in him, teams should start approaching him like turn-of-the-century Bonds.
[A typo has been fixed. To the best of my knowledge, neither Tatis nor Acuña have engaged in cannabilism. -DS]
The other part of the offense comprises the players who aren’t Juan Soto; this portion is far less exciting. ZiPS is far more excited about Josh Bell than it was a year ago, and his defense at first has improved considerably. But he’s not a star and will likely be in another uniform by the time Washington is a good team again (he’s a free agent after 2022). ZiPS remains optimistic about Keibert Ruiz, one of the players acquired in the Trea Turner/Max Scherzer blockbuster last summer. The computer isn’t giving up on Carter Kieboom, either, but even if we agree ZiPS for the sake of argument, the Nats haven’t handled Kieboom all that impressively and the fact is that he didn’t hit major or minor league pitching very well last year.
There’s no immediate help on the horizon here outside of Ruiz. Among the hitters, ZiPS only projects Soto, Ruiz, and Victor Robles to have at least 10 WAR remaining in their professional careers. While they have enough bodies on hand to cobble together league-average — or at least league-average adjacent — performances at most positions, without luck and incredible health, this is a bottom-tier offense that also happens to have Juan Soto available.
Pitchers
The news is slightly more optimistic here. ZiPS is aware that Strasburg is out with thoracic outlet surgery, which is a bigger hit to his outlook than if he had had Tommy John surgery, but his projection is still solid enough to be patient if he isn’t 100% immediately upon his return. And given the shallowness of their roster and a contract that goes through the end of the 2026 season, it’s not as if the Nats have another option waiting in the wings.
One pitcher — and arguably just one — gets a genuinely bullish projection: Patrick Corbin. ZiPS was down on Corbin last season, and he was legitimately lousy throughout 2021, but his velocity also ticked back up to normal and with slight improvements in his contact and swinging-strike rate, ZiPS thought he should have had a mild rebound in his strikeout rate last year rather than a continued decline.
Few of the other starting pitchers project well, and of the remaining lumpenpitchetariat, only Josiah Gray projects as having very much upside at all.
The bullpen forecast is especially bleak. If ZiPS is to believed, this is a bottom-five relief corp, thoroughly below average once you get past Kyle Finnegan and Will Harris; I’d actually rather have the 2022 Durham Bulls bullpen. But if you’re looking for a silver lining, ZiPS and Steamer part ways a bit here, with Steamer seeing Tanner Rainey and Patrick Murphy as more enticing options.
I think this is the last place team in the 2022 NL East. I’m not sanguine on the Marlins scoring any runs, but their rotation is so interesting that the upside dwarfs anything the Nats have outside of Soto.

Ballpark graphic courtesy Eephus League. Depth charts constructed by way of those listed here.
| Player | B | Age | PO | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Juan Soto | L | 23 | RF | 675 | 523 | 121 | 164 | 29 | 3 | 35 | 120 | 144 | 104 | 13 | 6 |
| Josh Bell | B | 29 | 1B | 568 | 495 | 78 | 135 | 27 | 2 | 28 | 100 | 65 | 106 | 0 | 1 |
| Keibert Ruiz | B | 23 | C | 430 | 394 | 48 | 106 | 20 | 1 | 17 | 59 | 30 | 54 | 0 | 0 |
| Victor Robles | R | 25 | CF | 527 | 461 | 60 | 109 | 26 | 3 | 10 | 42 | 38 | 126 | 18 | 7 |
| César Hernández | B | 32 | 2B | 615 | 551 | 76 | 137 | 23 | 2 | 16 | 62 | 56 | 122 | 4 | 2 |
| Lane Thomas | R | 26 | CF | 405 | 358 | 52 | 84 | 19 | 3 | 13 | 51 | 41 | 110 | 9 | 5 |
| Carter Kieboom | R | 24 | 3B | 491 | 428 | 62 | 102 | 18 | 2 | 14 | 54 | 50 | 117 | 2 | 2 |
| Starlin Castro | R | 32 | 3B | 499 | 463 | 48 | 126 | 25 | 2 | 11 | 58 | 29 | 86 | 1 | 2 |
| Riley Adams | R | 26 | C | 336 | 293 | 35 | 63 | 13 | 1 | 10 | 30 | 31 | 112 | 1 | 0 |
| Alex Avila | L | 35 | C | 148 | 121 | 10 | 22 | 6 | 0 | 4 | 13 | 24 | 53 | 0 | 0 |
| Adrián Sanchez | R | 31 | 2B | 263 | 246 | 30 | 64 | 13 | 1 | 5 | 24 | 14 | 46 | 5 | 3 |
| Yadiel Hernandez | L | 34 | LF | 390 | 355 | 48 | 95 | 14 | 1 | 15 | 51 | 31 | 88 | 3 | 2 |
| Andrew Young | R | 28 | 2B | 378 | 332 | 47 | 71 | 19 | 2 | 17 | 51 | 25 | 142 | 2 | 1 |
| Corban Joseph | L | 33 | 2B | 373 | 345 | 40 | 89 | 19 | 1 | 7 | 39 | 22 | 52 | 1 | 0 |
| Jake Noll | R | 28 | 2B | 493 | 460 | 58 | 118 | 22 | 2 | 14 | 55 | 24 | 92 | 3 | 1 |
| Brandon Snyder | R | 35 | 3B | 325 | 298 | 38 | 64 | 13 | 0 | 14 | 44 | 19 | 109 | 1 | 0 |
| Derek Dietrich | L | 32 | 2B | 326 | 283 | 42 | 58 | 10 | 1 | 12 | 38 | 25 | 93 | 1 | 1 |
| Tres Barrera | R | 27 | C | 339 | 302 | 35 | 67 | 14 | 1 | 7 | 32 | 27 | 75 | 1 | 1 |
| René Rivera | R | 38 | C | 239 | 218 | 25 | 45 | 7 | 0 | 10 | 31 | 14 | 80 | 0 | 0 |
| Mike Ford | L | 29 | 1B | 418 | 373 | 53 | 84 | 18 | 0 | 18 | 55 | 38 | 95 | 1 | 0 |
| Jecksson Flores | R | 28 | SS | 375 | 338 | 36 | 77 | 14 | 1 | 6 | 29 | 25 | 69 | 8 | 3 |
| Jake Alu | L | 25 | 3B | 360 | 339 | 38 | 82 | 15 | 1 | 8 | 33 | 16 | 82 | 7 | 2 |
| Drew Millas | B | 24 | C | 402 | 361 | 58 | 84 | 14 | 1 | 6 | 35 | 32 | 75 | 7 | 2 |
| Andrew Stevenson | L | 28 | CF | 360 | 329 | 40 | 82 | 14 | 3 | 8 | 38 | 23 | 100 | 6 | 3 |
| Alec Keller | L | 30 | LF | 318 | 295 | 35 | 78 | 12 | 2 | 4 | 26 | 17 | 53 | 5 | 1 |
| Richard Ureña | B | 26 | 2B | 413 | 383 | 43 | 90 | 19 | 2 | 8 | 40 | 19 | 101 | 2 | 2 |
| Ryan Zimmerman | R | 37 | 1B | 248 | 232 | 23 | 55 | 13 | 0 | 11 | 42 | 14 | 67 | 0 | 0 |
| Humberto Arteaga | R | 28 | SS | 351 | 331 | 31 | 75 | 12 | 1 | 5 | 25 | 14 | 71 | 4 | 2 |
| Lucius Fox | B | 24 | 2B | 384 | 340 | 43 | 71 | 16 | 4 | 6 | 30 | 38 | 104 | 21 | 5 |
| Raudy Read | R | 28 | 1B | 251 | 235 | 29 | 59 | 12 | 2 | 10 | 34 | 11 | 56 | 0 | 0 |
| Maikel Franco | R | 29 | 3B | 452 | 418 | 40 | 99 | 23 | 0 | 14 | 56 | 28 | 67 | 0 | 0 |
| Alcides Escobar | R | 35 | SS | 432 | 399 | 50 | 98 | 20 | 1 | 6 | 36 | 22 | 77 | 4 | 1 |
| Yasmany Tomás | R | 31 | 1B | 336 | 318 | 39 | 77 | 15 | 2 | 15 | 48 | 15 | 99 | 1 | 0 |
| Gerardo Parra | L | 35 | LF | 239 | 218 | 28 | 51 | 9 | 1 | 5 | 28 | 16 | 54 | 4 | 3 |
| Alex Dunlap | R | 27 | C | 182 | 165 | 19 | 31 | 7 | 0 | 4 | 16 | 14 | 59 | 0 | 0 |
| Jackson Cluff | L | 25 | SS | 234 | 211 | 21 | 41 | 6 | 2 | 5 | 16 | 15 | 67 | 5 | 3 |
| Carlos Tocci | R | 26 | CF | 268 | 244 | 25 | 55 | 8 | 1 | 4 | 17 | 18 | 56 | 1 | 3 |
| Rafael Bautista | R | 29 | CF | 226 | 211 | 25 | 48 | 8 | 1 | 5 | 20 | 10 | 45 | 3 | 1 |
| Ramon Flores | L | 30 | LF | 114 | 101 | 10 | 23 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 11 | 25 | 1 | 1 |
| Jordy Mercer | R | 35 | 2B | 251 | 234 | 22 | 57 | 13 | 0 | 5 | 19 | 15 | 55 | 0 | 0 |
| Blake Swihart | B | 30 | LF | 214 | 194 | 24 | 39 | 6 | 1 | 6 | 22 | 17 | 59 | 1 | 1 |
| Dee Strange-Gordon | L | 34 | SS | 346 | 327 | 33 | 84 | 11 | 4 | 4 | 25 | 11 | 48 | 11 | 5 |
| Brady Lindsly | L | 24 | C | 163 | 147 | 21 | 31 | 5 | 1 | 3 | 14 | 13 | 43 | 1 | 0 |
| Wilmer Perez | R | 24 | C | 125 | 116 | 12 | 25 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 9 | 6 | 24 | 1 | 1 |
| Welington Castillo | R | 35 | C | 204 | 190 | 16 | 41 | 9 | 0 | 8 | 30 | 11 | 58 | 0 | 0 |
| Gilbert Lara | R | 24 | SS | 480 | 454 | 50 | 97 | 18 | 2 | 11 | 46 | 20 | 128 | 2 | 2 |
| Cole Freeman | R | 27 | CF | 476 | 433 | 57 | 104 | 18 | 2 | 5 | 36 | 27 | 68 | 13 | 4 |
| K.J. Harrison | R | 25 | 1B | 376 | 345 | 38 | 73 | 16 | 1 | 12 | 37 | 26 | 112 | 0 | 0 |
| Donovan Casey | R | 26 | CF | 525 | 487 | 53 | 104 | 19 | 3 | 14 | 47 | 31 | 181 | 13 | 3 |
| Nick Banks | L | 27 | LF | 414 | 385 | 44 | 83 | 17 | 1 | 9 | 38 | 24 | 118 | 2 | 2 |
| Yasel Antuna | B | 22 | SS | 488 | 453 | 60 | 95 | 22 | 1 | 13 | 53 | 29 | 113 | 3 | 2 |
| Cody Wilson | R | 25 | CF | 296 | 268 | 27 | 48 | 7 | 2 | 5 | 18 | 22 | 96 | 11 | 5 |
| Jacob Rhinesmith | L | 26 | RF | 484 | 441 | 55 | 97 | 20 | 2 | 8 | 43 | 35 | 100 | 7 | 2 |
| Armond Upshaw | B | 26 | CF | 395 | 359 | 39 | 66 | 9 | 3 | 6 | 29 | 28 | 139 | 14 | 7 |
| Drew Mendoza | L | 24 | 1B | 408 | 368 | 46 | 71 | 13 | 1 | 8 | 33 | 31 | 126 | 4 | 1 |
| Gage Canning | L | 25 | RF | 377 | 351 | 32 | 71 | 13 | 3 | 6 | 26 | 22 | 120 | 3 | 4 |
| Player | BA | OBP | SLG | OPS+ | ISO | BABIP | RC/27 | Def | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Juan Soto | .314 | .461 | .581 | 177 | .268 | .336 | 10.6 | 0 | 7.8 | Ted Williams |
| Josh Bell | .273 | .357 | .505 | 127 | .232 | .296 | 6.7 | -3 | 2.7 | Brook Jacoby |
| Keibert Ruiz | .269 | .326 | .454 | 106 | .185 | .276 | 5.5 | -1 | 2.3 | Matt Nokes |
| Victor Robles | .236 | .320 | .371 | 85 | .134 | .305 | 4.3 | 7 | 1.8 | Darren Burton |
| César Hernández | .249 | .322 | .385 | 88 | .136 | .293 | 4.5 | -1 | 1.5 | Marv Owen |
| Lane Thomas | .235 | .317 | .413 | 94 | .179 | .302 | 4.6 | 1 | 1.4 | Ricky Ledee |
| Carter Kieboom | .238 | .330 | .388 | 92 | .150 | .296 | 4.5 | -1 | 1.3 | Pedro Castellano |
| Starlin Castro | .272 | .313 | .406 | 91 | .134 | .314 | 4.6 | -1 | 1.0 | Ray Knight |
| Riley Adams | .215 | .310 | .369 | 81 | .154 | .310 | 4.0 | -2 | 0.8 | Terry McGriff |
| Alex Avila | .182 | .327 | .331 | 77 | .149 | .281 | 3.6 | 4 | 0.7 | Jerry Goff |
| Adrián Sanchez | .260 | .300 | .382 | 81 | .122 | .303 | 4.1 | 3 | 0.7 | Dave Berg |
| Yadiel Hernandez | .268 | .326 | .439 | 102 | .172 | .317 | 5.2 | -4 | 0.6 | Joel Youngblood |
| Andrew Young | .214 | .298 | .437 | 93 | .223 | .312 | 4.5 | -6 | 0.6 | Matt Macri |
| Corban Joseph | .258 | .303 | .380 | 81 | .122 | .287 | 4.2 | -1 | 0.5 | Jack Wilson |
| Jake Noll | .257 | .297 | .404 | 86 | .148 | .294 | 4.4 | -6 | 0.5 | Greg Legg |
| Brandon Snyder | .215 | .274 | .399 | 77 | .185 | .286 | 3.8 | 1 | 0.4 | Jason Wood |
| Derek Dietrich | .205 | .307 | .375 | 81 | .170 | .258 | 3.9 | -2 | 0.4 | Shanie Dugas |
| Tres Barrera | .222 | .294 | .344 | 70 | .123 | .273 | 3.5 | 0 | 0.4 | Dave Vangorder |
| René Rivera | .206 | .263 | .376 | 68 | .170 | .273 | 3.4 | 2 | 0.4 | Raul Chavez |
| Mike Ford | .225 | .304 | .418 | 91 | .193 | .254 | 4.5 | -1 | 0.4 | Ed Herrmann |
| Jecksson Flores | .228 | .286 | .328 | 64 | .101 | .270 | 3.4 | 2 | 0.3 | Gregg Raymundo |
| Jake Alu | .242 | .281 | .363 | 71 | .121 | .297 | 3.7 | 1 | 0.2 | Juan Melo |
| Drew Millas | .233 | .298 | .327 | 68 | .094 | .279 | 3.5 | -2 | 0.2 | Mike Durant |
| Andrew Stevenson | .249 | .304 | .383 | 83 | .134 | .335 | 4.2 | -4 | 0.2 | Scott Lusader |
| Alec Keller | .264 | .307 | .359 | 78 | .095 | .311 | 4.2 | 2 | 0.1 | Gene Clines |
| Richard Ureña | .235 | .272 | .358 | 67 | .123 | .299 | 3.4 | 3 | 0.1 | Mendy Lopez |
| Ryan Zimmerman | .237 | .278 | .435 | 87 | .198 | .286 | 4.3 | 0 | 0.1 | Tom Wilson |
| Humberto Arteaga | .227 | .261 | .314 | 53 | .088 | .275 | 2.9 | 6 | 0.1 | Carlo Colombino |
| Lucius Fox | .209 | .295 | .332 | 68 | .124 | .283 | 3.7 | -2 | 0.0 | Rod Smith |
| Raudy Read | .251 | .288 | .447 | 93 | .196 | .290 | 4.6 | -2 | 0.0 | Guillermo Garcia |
| Maikel Franco | .237 | .285 | .392 | 79 | .156 | .252 | 4.0 | -4 | 0.0 | Pete Rose Jr. |
| Alcides Escobar | .246 | .293 | .346 | 70 | .100 | .291 | 3.7 | -5 | -0.1 | Greg Gagne |
| Yasmany Tomás | .242 | .277 | .443 | 88 | .201 | .304 | 4.4 | -2 | -0.1 | Tom Nevers |
| Gerardo Parra | .234 | .294 | .353 | 73 | .119 | .289 | 3.6 | 2 | -0.1 | Jalal Leach |
| Alex Dunlap | .188 | .258 | .303 | 50 | .115 | .265 | 2.6 | 1 | -0.1 | Ryan Luzinski |
| Jackson Cluff | .194 | .262 | .313 | 53 | .118 | .259 | 2.7 | 2 | -0.1 | Matt Guiliano |
| Carlos Tocci | .225 | .285 | .316 | 61 | .090 | .277 | 2.9 | 2 | -0.2 | Brett Caradonna |
| Rafael Bautista | .227 | .271 | .346 | 64 | .118 | .267 | 3.3 | 0 | -0.2 | Izzy Molina |
| Ramon Flores | .228 | .307 | .317 | 68 | .089 | .284 | 3.3 | 0 | -0.2 | Scott Bikowski |
| Jordy Mercer | .244 | .295 | .363 | 75 | .120 | .299 | 3.8 | -5 | -0.3 | Wes Helms |
| Blake Swihart | .201 | .268 | .335 | 60 | .134 | .256 | 3.0 | 3 | -0.3 | Lou List |
| Dee Strange-Gordon | .257 | .285 | .352 | 69 | .095 | .291 | 3.7 | -5 | -0.3 | Craig Reynolds |
| Brady Lindsly | .211 | .278 | .320 | 60 | .109 | .277 | 3.1 | -3 | -0.3 | Danny Ardoin |
| Wilmer Perez | .216 | .258 | .302 | 49 | .086 | .256 | 2.6 | -1 | -0.4 | Rogelio Arias |
| Welington Castillo | .216 | .265 | .389 | 72 | .174 | .266 | 3.5 | -6 | -0.4 | Steven Norris |
| Gilbert Lara | .214 | .251 | .335 | 55 | .121 | .273 | 2.8 | 3 | -0.4 | Sergio Santos |
| Cole Freeman | .240 | .297 | .326 | 67 | .085 | .275 | 3.6 | -4 | -0.4 | Melvin Mora |
| K.J. Harrison | .212 | .272 | .368 | 69 | .157 | .276 | 3.4 | 2 | -0.5 | Ryan Jones |
| Donovan Casey | .214 | .265 | .351 | 63 | .138 | .308 | 3.3 | -3 | -0.6 | Luis Terrero |
| Nick Banks | .216 | .266 | .335 | 60 | .119 | .287 | 3.0 | 4 | -0.7 | Nate Peterson |
| Yasel Antuna | .210 | .259 | .349 | 61 | .139 | .251 | 3.1 | -6 | -0.9 | Vicente Garcia |
| Cody Wilson | .179 | .248 | .276 | 40 | .097 | .257 | 2.3 | 2 | -0.9 | Nicholas Moresi |
| Jacob Rhinesmith | .220 | .282 | .329 | 63 | .109 | .267 | 3.3 | -6 | -1.5 | Erold Andrus |
| Armond Upshaw | .184 | .252 | .276 | 41 | .092 | .280 | 2.3 | -3 | -1.6 | Bobby Bonds |
| Drew Mendoza | .193 | .264 | .299 | 50 | .106 | .269 | 2.7 | -1 | -1.6 | Joe Dusan |
| Gage Canning | .202 | .255 | .308 | 50 | .105 | .289 | 2.5 | -2 | -1.8 | Randy Walter |
| Player | T | Age | W | L | ERA | G | GS | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO | FIP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Patrick Corbin | L | 32 | 12 | 10 | 4.16 | 29 | 29 | 168.7 | 170 | 78 | 25 | 51 | 163 | 4.13 |
| Stephen Strasburg | R | 33 | 9 | 6 | 3.67 | 20 | 20 | 115.3 | 99 | 47 | 14 | 38 | 129 | 3.67 |
| Joe Ross | R | 29 | 7 | 6 | 4.37 | 23 | 18 | 103.0 | 101 | 50 | 15 | 35 | 103 | 4.30 |
| Cade Cavalli | R | 23 | 8 | 8 | 4.81 | 25 | 25 | 121.7 | 120 | 65 | 18 | 58 | 119 | 4.73 |
| Josiah Gray | R | 24 | 4 | 3 | 4.55 | 20 | 18 | 91.0 | 83 | 46 | 17 | 35 | 105 | 4.59 |
| Erick Fedde | R | 29 | 7 | 7 | 4.82 | 28 | 24 | 125.0 | 130 | 67 | 20 | 48 | 107 | 4.80 |
| Kyle McGowin | R | 30 | 3 | 3 | 4.26 | 30 | 9 | 74.0 | 69 | 35 | 11 | 26 | 81 | 4.14 |
| Alex Troop | L | 25 | 6 | 6 | 4.40 | 27 | 7 | 75.7 | 81 | 37 | 12 | 18 | 60 | 4.53 |
| Kyle Finnegan | R | 30 | 6 | 4 | 3.81 | 59 | 0 | 59.0 | 53 | 25 | 6 | 27 | 65 | 3.77 |
| Steven Fuentes | R | 25 | 4 | 4 | 4.55 | 16 | 11 | 55.3 | 58 | 28 | 7 | 20 | 42 | 4.55 |
| Mario Sanchez | R | 27 | 6 | 7 | 5.03 | 24 | 18 | 107.3 | 118 | 60 | 19 | 27 | 80 | 4.88 |
| Joan Adon | R | 23 | 6 | 7 | 5.13 | 22 | 22 | 107.0 | 114 | 61 | 16 | 47 | 86 | 5.03 |
| Seth Romero | L | 26 | 1 | 1 | 4.54 | 12 | 11 | 37.7 | 36 | 19 | 5 | 17 | 37 | 4.45 |
| Will Harris | R | 37 | 2 | 1 | 3.60 | 40 | 0 | 35.0 | 31 | 14 | 4 | 11 | 38 | 3.44 |
| Matt Tomshaw | L | 33 | 5 | 5 | 5.07 | 18 | 13 | 76.3 | 86 | 43 | 14 | 18 | 58 | 4.91 |
| Sterling Sharp | R | 27 | 5 | 6 | 5.17 | 19 | 17 | 85.3 | 95 | 49 | 11 | 39 | 55 | 5.11 |
| Patrick Murphy | R | 27 | 4 | 4 | 4.83 | 33 | 9 | 72.7 | 72 | 39 | 10 | 33 | 65 | 4.75 |
| Tyler Eppler | R | 29 | 6 | 7 | 5.23 | 22 | 18 | 98.0 | 112 | 57 | 15 | 33 | 62 | 5.07 |
| Gerardo Carrillo | R | 23 | 5 | 6 | 5.31 | 24 | 23 | 98.3 | 104 | 58 | 15 | 51 | 76 | 5.33 |
| Francisco Perez | L | 24 | 2 | 2 | 4.26 | 35 | 0 | 57.0 | 52 | 27 | 7 | 26 | 61 | 4.11 |
| Wander Suero | R | 30 | 5 | 4 | 4.40 | 59 | 1 | 57.3 | 55 | 28 | 9 | 21 | 60 | 4.44 |
| Austin Voth | R | 30 | 4 | 5 | 5.13 | 37 | 12 | 80.7 | 83 | 46 | 16 | 29 | 79 | 5.03 |
| Alberto Guerrero | R | 24 | 4 | 5 | 5.07 | 35 | 9 | 76.3 | 81 | 43 | 11 | 33 | 59 | 5.00 |
| Víctor Arano | R | 27 | 2 | 1 | 4.25 | 35 | 0 | 36.0 | 32 | 17 | 5 | 16 | 40 | 4.18 |
| Paolo Espino | R | 35 | 4 | 5 | 5.32 | 27 | 16 | 88.0 | 94 | 52 | 19 | 25 | 78 | 5.13 |
| Jhon Romero | R | 27 | 3 | 3 | 4.44 | 40 | 0 | 52.7 | 54 | 26 | 7 | 18 | 43 | 4.41 |
| Jefry Rodriguez | R | 28 | 3 | 3 | 5.38 | 25 | 14 | 78.7 | 81 | 47 | 13 | 42 | 66 | 5.37 |
| Aaron Barrett | R | 34 | 3 | 2 | 4.50 | 35 | 0 | 36.0 | 35 | 18 | 4 | 17 | 33 | 4.37 |
| Carson Teel | L | 26 | 4 | 5 | 5.34 | 31 | 12 | 84.3 | 94 | 50 | 15 | 31 | 59 | 5.34 |
| Tanner Rainey | R | 29 | 3 | 3 | 4.70 | 51 | 1 | 46.0 | 35 | 24 | 7 | 34 | 69 | 4.57 |
| Francys Peguero | R | 26 | 4 | 5 | 5.32 | 26 | 9 | 69.3 | 79 | 41 | 12 | 25 | 48 | 5.30 |
| Sam Clay | L | 29 | 3 | 3 | 4.61 | 57 | 0 | 54.7 | 56 | 28 | 5 | 28 | 45 | 4.48 |
| Vidal Nuno | L | 34 | 3 | 4 | 5.33 | 19 | 6 | 49.0 | 55 | 29 | 11 | 13 | 36 | 5.61 |
| Sean Nolin | L | 32 | 3 | 4 | 5.53 | 21 | 13 | 70.0 | 78 | 43 | 15 | 28 | 59 | 5.65 |
| Ryne Harper | R | 33 | 2 | 2 | 4.70 | 47 | 0 | 51.7 | 52 | 27 | 9 | 15 | 48 | 4.57 |
| Luis Avilán | L | 32 | 1 | 1 | 4.85 | 36 | 0 | 26.0 | 25 | 14 | 4 | 12 | 25 | 4.87 |
| Dakody Clemmer | R | 26 | 3 | 3 | 4.75 | 37 | 0 | 53.0 | 53 | 28 | 6 | 30 | 43 | 4.90 |
| Curtis Taylor | R | 26 | 3 | 3 | 5.09 | 31 | 2 | 40.7 | 42 | 23 | 7 | 18 | 36 | 5.12 |
| Tim Cate | L | 24 | 6 | 7 | 5.67 | 21 | 21 | 98.3 | 114 | 62 | 17 | 40 | 62 | 5.54 |
| Ryan Tapani | R | 28 | 3 | 3 | 5.37 | 25 | 4 | 57.0 | 62 | 34 | 10 | 24 | 46 | 5.27 |
| Nick Wells | L | 26 | 3 | 3 | 5.48 | 28 | 7 | 64.0 | 69 | 39 | 9 | 37 | 50 | 5.37 |
| Bryan Bonnell | R | 28 | 3 | 3 | 5.20 | 37 | 3 | 62.3 | 69 | 36 | 12 | 19 | 48 | 5.20 |
| Alberto Baldonado | L | 29 | 3 | 4 | 5.00 | 43 | 0 | 45.0 | 44 | 25 | 8 | 22 | 47 | 5.00 |
| Reid Schaller | R | 25 | 3 | 4 | 5.44 | 29 | 3 | 43.0 | 45 | 26 | 6 | 27 | 34 | 5.44 |
| Dakota Bacus | R | 31 | 3 | 4 | 5.10 | 37 | 0 | 47.7 | 49 | 27 | 7 | 22 | 40 | 4.92 |
| Matt Cronin | L | 24 | 2 | 3 | 5.47 | 23 | 0 | 26.3 | 25 | 16 | 5 | 15 | 29 | 5.38 |
| Mason Thompson | R | 24 | 4 | 5 | 5.19 | 52 | 1 | 50.3 | 54 | 29 | 8 | 26 | 42 | 5.25 |
| Gabe Klobosits | R | 27 | 3 | 3 | 5.19 | 39 | 0 | 43.3 | 45 | 25 | 7 | 21 | 35 | 5.33 |
| Rogelio Armenteros | R | 28 | 4 | 5 | 5.91 | 17 | 15 | 70.0 | 77 | 46 | 17 | 31 | 63 | 5.99 |
| Javy Guerra | R | 36 | 1 | 1 | 5.31 | 34 | 0 | 40.7 | 45 | 24 | 8 | 14 | 33 | 5.29 |
| Frankie Bartow | R | 25 | 2 | 3 | 5.30 | 33 | 0 | 37.3 | 41 | 22 | 6 | 17 | 25 | 5.46 |
| Jackson Tetreault | R | 26 | 5 | 7 | 5.88 | 19 | 19 | 90.3 | 105 | 59 | 17 | 42 | 62 | 5.85 |
| Andrew Karp | R | 26 | 1 | 1 | 5.33 | 24 | 1 | 52.3 | 55 | 31 | 8 | 26 | 41 | 5.26 |
| Andrew Lee | R | 28 | 4 | 5 | 5.80 | 25 | 10 | 68.3 | 71 | 44 | 11 | 44 | 59 | 5.65 |
| Matt Brill | R | 27 | 3 | 4 | 5.55 | 34 | 0 | 35.7 | 35 | 22 | 5 | 25 | 34 | 5.45 |
| Andres Machado | R | 29 | 2 | 2 | 5.46 | 47 | 2 | 57.7 | 60 | 35 | 11 | 27 | 50 | 5.54 |
| Ronald Peña | R | 30 | 1 | 1 | 5.62 | 32 | 0 | 40.0 | 43 | 25 | 7 | 21 | 34 | 5.48 |
| Josh Rogers | L | 27 | 6 | 9 | 5.98 | 22 | 19 | 111.3 | 133 | 74 | 25 | 34 | 70 | 5.95 |
| Joan Baez | R | 27 | 3 | 5 | 6.18 | 24 | 7 | 55.3 | 61 | 38 | 10 | 36 | 41 | 6.22 |
| Luis Reyes | R | 27 | 6 | 9 | 6.04 | 25 | 20 | 104.3 | 118 | 70 | 19 | 54 | 74 | 5.85 |
| Ben Braymer | L | 28 | 6 | 8 | 6.15 | 25 | 20 | 98.0 | 111 | 67 | 21 | 50 | 74 | 6.14 |
| Player | K/9 | BB/9 | HR/9 | BB% | K% | BABIP | ERA+ | ERA- | WAR | No. 1 Comp |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Patrick Corbin | 8.7 | 2.7 | 1.3 | 7.1% | 22.7% | .305 | 105 | 96 | 2.5 | Harvey Haddix |
| Stephen Strasburg | 10.1 | 3.0 | 1.1 | 7.9% | 26.8% | .288 | 119 | 84 | 2.3 | Bert Blyleven |
| Joe Ross | 9.0 | 3.1 | 1.3 | 7.9% | 23.1% | .302 | 100 | 100 | 1.3 | Steve Parris |
| Cade Cavalli | 8.8 | 4.3 | 1.3 | 10.7% | 22.0% | .300 | 91 | 110 | 1.0 | Aaron Heilman |
| Josiah Gray | 10.4 | 3.5 | 1.7 | 9.0% | 27.0% | .289 | 96 | 104 | 1.0 | Rob Bell |
| Erick Fedde | 7.7 | 3.5 | 1.4 | 8.8% | 19.5% | .298 | 90 | 111 | 0.9 | Victor Santos |
| Kyle McGowin | 9.9 | 3.2 | 1.3 | 8.2% | 25.6% | .299 | 102 | 98 | 0.8 | Alejandro Pena |
| Alex Troop | 7.1 | 2.1 | 1.4 | 5.6% | 18.5% | .300 | 99 | 101 | 0.7 | Mark Peterson |
| Kyle Finnegan | 9.9 | 4.1 | 0.9 | 10.6% | 25.5% | .303 | 114 | 88 | 0.6 | Ryan Dempster |
| Steven Fuentes | 6.8 | 3.3 | 1.1 | 8.2% | 17.3% | .298 | 96 | 105 | 0.6 | Bill Caudill |
| Mario Sanchez | 6.7 | 2.3 | 1.6 | 5.8% | 17.2% | .297 | 87 | 115 | 0.6 | Josh Towers |
| Joan Adon | 7.2 | 4.0 | 1.3 | 9.8% | 17.9% | .302 | 85 | 118 | 0.5 | Clemente Nunez |
| Seth Romero | 8.8 | 4.1 | 1.2 | 10.3% | 22.4% | .298 | 96 | 104 | 0.4 | Bruce Berenyi |
| Will Harris | 9.8 | 2.8 | 1.0 | 7.6% | 26.2% | .293 | 121 | 83 | 0.4 | Trevor Hoffman |
| Matt Tomshaw | 6.8 | 2.1 | 1.7 | 5.4% | 17.5% | .304 | 86 | 116 | 0.4 | Greg Swindell |
| Sterling Sharp | 5.8 | 4.1 | 1.2 | 10.1% | 14.2% | .302 | 84 | 119 | 0.3 | Sean White |
| Patrick Murphy | 8.1 | 4.1 | 1.2 | 10.2% | 20.1% | .295 | 90 | 111 | 0.3 | Jared Hoerman |
| Tyler Eppler | 5.7 | 3.0 | 1.4 | 7.6% | 14.2% | .302 | 83 | 120 | 0.3 | Joe Mays |
| Gerardo Carrillo | 7.0 | 4.7 | 1.4 | 11.4% | 17.0% | .296 | 82 | 122 | 0.3 | Ben Hendrickson |
| Francisco Perez | 9.6 | 4.1 | 1.1 | 10.5% | 24.7% | .298 | 102 | 98 | 0.2 | Jim Poole |
| Wander Suero | 9.4 | 3.3 | 1.4 | 8.5% | 24.2% | .299 | 99 | 101 | 0.2 | Tyler Walker |
| Austin Voth | 8.8 | 3.2 | 1.8 | 8.2% | 22.4% | .299 | 85 | 118 | 0.2 | Erik Hiljus |
| Alberto Guerrero | 7.0 | 3.9 | 1.3 | 9.6% | 17.3% | .299 | 86 | 116 | 0.2 | Yoel Hernandez |
| Víctor Arano | 10.0 | 4.0 | 1.3 | 10.3% | 25.8% | .290 | 102 | 98 | 0.2 | Rich Garces |
| Paolo Espino | 8.0 | 2.6 | 1.9 | 6.6% | 20.6% | .294 | 82 | 122 | 0.1 | John Wasdin |
| Jhon Romero | 7.3 | 3.1 | 1.2 | 7.9% | 18.9% | .297 | 98 | 102 | 0.1 | Jose Santiago |
| Jefry Rodriguez | 7.6 | 4.8 | 1.5 | 11.8% | 18.5% | .293 | 81 | 123 | 0.1 | Anastacio Martinez |
| Aaron Barrett | 8.3 | 4.3 | 1.0 | 10.7% | 20.8% | .301 | 97 | 103 | 0.0 | Darrin Babineaux |
| Carson Teel | 6.3 | 3.3 | 1.6 | 8.3% | 15.7% | .297 | 82 | 122 | 0.0 | Adam Flohr |
| Tanner Rainey | 13.5 | 6.7 | 1.4 | 16.3% | 33.2% | .295 | 93 | 108 | 0.0 | Jorge Julio |
| Francys Peguero | 6.2 | 3.2 | 1.6 | 8.0% | 15.4% | .302 | 82 | 122 | 0.0 | Joe Roa |
| Sam Clay | 7.4 | 4.6 | 0.8 | 11.3% | 18.1% | .307 | 94 | 106 | 0.0 | Carmen Cali |
| Vidal Nuno | 6.6 | 2.4 | 2.0 | 6.1% | 16.8% | .291 | 82 | 122 | 0.0 | Dave Schmidt |
| Sean Nolin | 7.6 | 3.6 | 1.9 | 8.9% | 18.7% | .301 | 79 | 127 | 0.0 | Robert Lee |
| Ryne Harper | 8.4 | 2.6 | 1.6 | 6.8% | 21.8% | .295 | 93 | 108 | 0.0 | Rusty Meacham |
| Luis Avilán | 8.7 | 4.2 | 1.4 | 10.4% | 21.7% | .292 | 90 | 111 | -0.1 | Matt Young |
| Dakody Clemmer | 7.3 | 5.1 | 1.0 | 12.4% | 17.8% | .296 | 92 | 109 | -0.1 | Steve LaRose |
| Curtis Taylor | 8.0 | 4.0 | 1.5 | 9.9% | 19.9% | .297 | 86 | 117 | -0.1 | Miguel Saladin |
| Tim Cate | 5.7 | 3.7 | 1.6 | 9.0% | 13.9% | .301 | 77 | 130 | -0.1 | Ryan Spille |
| Ryan Tapani | 7.3 | 3.8 | 1.6 | 9.4% | 18.0% | .301 | 81 | 123 | -0.2 | Erik Schullstrom |
| Nick Wells | 7.0 | 5.2 | 1.3 | 12.5% | 16.8% | .305 | 79 | 126 | -0.2 | Brian Adams |
| Bryan Bonnell | 6.9 | 2.7 | 1.7 | 7.0% | 17.6% | .298 | 84 | 119 | -0.2 | Tim McNab |
| Alberto Baldonado | 9.4 | 4.4 | 1.6 | 11.0% | 23.5% | .298 | 87 | 115 | -0.2 | Bill White |
| Reid Schaller | 7.1 | 5.7 | 1.3 | 13.5% | 17.0% | .298 | 80 | 125 | -0.2 | Heathcliff Slocumb |
| Dakota Bacus | 7.6 | 4.2 | 1.3 | 10.4% | 18.9% | .298 | 85 | 117 | -0.2 | Joe Borowski |
| Matt Cronin | 9.9 | 5.1 | 1.7 | 12.6% | 24.4% | .294 | 80 | 126 | -0.3 | Taylor Tankersley |
| Mason Thompson | 7.5 | 4.6 | 1.4 | 11.4% | 18.3% | .305 | 84 | 119 | -0.3 | Mike Madden |
| Gabe Klobosits | 7.3 | 4.4 | 1.5 | 10.7% | 17.9% | .292 | 84 | 119 | -0.3 | Rick Greene |
| Rogelio Armenteros | 8.1 | 4.0 | 2.2 | 9.8% | 19.9% | .297 | 74 | 136 | -0.3 | Clint Weibl |
| Javy Guerra | 7.3 | 3.1 | 1.8 | 7.8% | 18.3% | .301 | 82 | 122 | -0.3 | Ben Weber |
| Frankie Bartow | 6.0 | 4.1 | 1.4 | 10.1% | 14.8% | .294 | 82 | 122 | -0.3 | Andy Nezelek |
| Jackson Tetreault | 6.2 | 4.2 | 1.7 | 10.1% | 14.9% | .303 | 74 | 135 | -0.3 | Chris Enochs |
| Andrew Karp | 7.1 | 4.5 | 1.4 | 11.0% | 17.3% | .296 | 82 | 122 | -0.3 | Anastacio Martinez |
| Andrew Lee | 7.8 | 5.8 | 1.4 | 13.8% | 18.5% | .299 | 75 | 133 | -0.3 | Steve Green |
| Matt Brill | 8.6 | 6.3 | 1.3 | 14.9% | 20.2% | .297 | 78 | 127 | -0.4 | Ryan Baker |
| Andres Machado | 7.8 | 4.2 | 1.7 | 10.4% | 19.2% | .292 | 80 | 125 | -0.4 | Doug Bochtler |
| Ronald Peña | 7.7 | 4.7 | 1.6 | 11.5% | 18.6% | .303 | 77 | 129 | -0.4 | William Ormond |
| Josh Rogers | 5.7 | 2.7 | 2.0 | 6.8% | 14.0% | .298 | 73 | 137 | -0.5 | Randy Marshall |
| Joan Baez | 6.7 | 5.9 | 1.6 | 13.7% | 15.6% | .297 | 70 | 142 | -0.5 | Rob Purvis |
| Luis Reyes | 6.4 | 4.7 | 1.6 | 11.2% | 15.3% | .300 | 72 | 139 | -0.6 | Ben Fritz |
| Ben Braymer | 6.8 | 4.6 | 1.9 | 11.0% | 16.3% | .297 | 71 | 141 | -0.6 | Dan Smith |
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“…his bat generates so many barrels that he should start his own bourbon distillery.” pure gold right here.
I want a Soto 12 yr bourbon
It’s called Soto. It’s expensive. And i will need 16 more years of aging on this pure unfiltered rye mash.
Juan Soto bourbon that Juan Soto is barely old enough to drink.
This word Maker’s Mark!
‘Soto isn’t going to be the kind of all-around talent that Fernando Tatis Jr. and Ronald Acuña Jr. ate’
Didn’t know that Tatis and acuna are talent-cannibals
Like Kirby, they acquire new abilities by eating their enemies
Calling Bartolo!
Is this like a highlander situation?
So they suck?
Best laugh all day
(Whispering) They’re gonna waste him like the Angels wasted Trout, aren’t they?
At least they got the ring in 2019.
Not exactly like . . . Soto has a ring
Do they have to trade him if they don’t extend him? As I recall it, there isn’t enough help coming from the minors in the next year or two to make them a contender, there isn’t much on the roster now, and he has three years of team control left. He probably projects for more than $100M in excess value over that time, even with big arbitration awards. Moving him would suck for Nats fans, but it could potentially jump start a real rebuild.
He’s represented by Boras so unless they go to like 13/450M or something, he’s going to free agency.
He’s 23. He could blow way past the longest contract extension ever–I think Betts’ 12 years is the most. Soto would probably get 15, maybe more.
$400M/16 years sounds like it could get it done.
Tatis signed for 14 years, but I think Soto would get a longer one being a less risky type of player (especially regarding injury risk) and having a longer track record. And I don’t think he’s going to take a discount either.
If he signed an extension today it would likely replace his current arb deal ($15m). Soto has 2 years of arb left after this one. Let’s call it $50m for the next 2 years.
He’s taking no less than Betts AAV for every season after that which is ~$30.4m. So the floor for a 16 year contract (which might be too short since it would only run through his age 38 season) is ~$460m ($65m+13x$30.5m).
I think this is mostly theoretical because I don’t think the Nationals are going to extend him. $400M is a lot of money and the Nationals have largely let their big names hit free agency and leave. The only exception I can think of was Strasburg (twice, and the second time Strasburg made it to FA anyway).
And I think there’s an argument against it too. Paying someone $30.5M through their age 38 or 39 season is a lot of money. Paying someone $25M through their age 38 or 39 season is a lot of money too.
And if that’s the case, then yeah, maybe they should trade him. I don’t think they should. But I also don’t think they’ll sign him long-term.
Tatis is making something like $36m on the back end of his (granted it’s shorter). In 10 years $36m isn’t going to be near the league high figure anymore.
$400m is a lot of money but when you’re talking about $400+m over 16 years it’s not outlandish.
I don’t see any option other than extending him until he’s 40. They will never get fair value for him if they trade him.
EDIT: I am trying to think of what kind of a trade a team could pursue that would make trading him worth it, and I don’t think it exists.
Err, maybe the Rays could trade that 2022 Durham Bulls bullpen (plus much of the rest of the very good Rays B team) for Soto? I guess?
I think a real-world trade for Soto would almost have to include Strasburg (and his contract). Then you can get to something that adds up.
Dodgers take those two and send back one of Urias or May plus a Busch or Miller type. That gets you in the ballpark, I think.
Not saying it’s a remotely *likely* trade. But it’s a way to get there without any crazy permutations.
The Rangers have stockpiled a bunch of talented MI prospects, then turned around and blocked all of them for 7-10 years. With no contracts outside of Seager/Semien, they could absorb Strasburg’s deal easily. They have the prospect depth for a godfather offer and the payroll room – let’s speak this into existence! Keep Leiter/Jung and empty the tank!
Foscue, Duran, Josh Smith, Zavala, Evan Carter, Huff; sprinkle in a few pitchers and send it.
That’s interesting. I think it would probably require Leiter instead of absorbing Strasburg’s contract. I also think it would be worth it.
-Leiter
-Carter
-2 of Duran, Foscue, Smith
-1 of Owen White / Dane Acker
-1 of Acosta / Acuna
-Zavala
-A couple of arm strength goofs (Teodo,
That doesn’t even come close on surplus value but it at least wouldn’t get laughed out of the room. Maybe instead of “one ofs” they’d give them all?
This is hard. I don’t know if you can ever trade someone like Soto without getting at least a Marco Luciano or CJ Abrams or Noelvi Marte caliber of prospect back. Maybe the Nationals would see Leiter that way, but Eric doesn’t.
I hear you on Luciano / Abrams / Marte, but if you are to believe the Farm Ranking $/FV numbers (and maybe this is over-simplifying as a result), but a 60FV bat is worth $55M, whereas 50FV bats are worth $28M, and a 45+FV bat is worth $8M. So you could argue that the volume of Duran (50) and Foscue+Wendzel+Walker (45+s all) would be the rough equivalent. Throw in Leody Taveras as a guy you can throw out in OF on a losing team and let him get all the reps.
I feel like the Rangers would strongly favor keeping Leiter & paying Stras contract because they haven’t had enough pitching in forever, and am assuming the trade strip-mines them of any realistic near-term SP prospects.
I mean, if they decide to trade him, they’ll just wait a year or two, right? Getting fair value for 3 years of Soto would be impossible, but 1or 2 years is a different story.
(For the record, though, I agree that the only sane option is to extend him until he’s 40. If your system produces Harper, Turner, *and* Soto, and none of them spend the bulk of their career with your team, then you are categorically Doing It Wrong.)
Who could even pony up for him? Trying to picture the insane prospect package that would be needed.
For what it is worth, on baseballtradevalues.com the Dodgers could come close with Buehler plus Urias plus plus Lux plus prospects Vargas, Pages, and Pepiot
lol
It’s kind of the same problem as when people on these threads were talking about the Angels trading Trout – who has the prospect capital to even get such a deal done and would they even do it? You’d have to trade basically the entire top half of your prospects to get such a deal done and would any team do that?
I think it would be a lot more likely he gets traded if MLB teams could trade draft picks like in the NBA. Offer a couple top prospects and a bushel of #1 picks and you might be able to get a deal done since the Nats would be able to defer those players getting to the majors by that many more years.
The braves maybe could have done it back in 2018 but it would have emptied their team, the rumor was anderson, Riley, Wright, and touki(4 former 1st round picks all ranked top 10 in the farm system plus ender inciate(when he was coming off of consecutive 3 win seasons) and newcomb who was in the midst of his best season(still his best sadly).
its kinda amazing that the braves had a farm system that could have traded for trout and not given up albies or acuna.
Trading?!?!?!??!? They should give Soto $700M, the keys to the city, and whatever else he wants. Trading Juan Soto should land you in prison.
They don’t have to necessarily. They could just play out the string with him and let him hit free agency. Hopefully they extend the qualifying offer to him if they choose the latter option.
I don’t understand why this is getting down voted unless it is people just rebelling at the idea of trading him entirely.
The Nats have three choices – extend him, trade him, or let him walk away in free agency for a compensatory pick (or whatever gets negotiated in the next CBA). Obviously extending him is the best choice by far, but if either side refuses to do that then letting him walk for almost nothing is much worse than getting back something in return, even if it would be almost impossible to get back fair value.
He might be the best pure hitter since Ted Williams and he’s 23. I’d give him Trout’s or Tatis’ contract and build around him without batting an eye. 15/$450 probably isn’t unreasonable and he might be the first guy to get half a billion dollars, guaranteed. But it’s not my money and I’m not his agent so I don’t have any say in the matter. I know that sometimes owners do dumb things, Boras likes to have his guys get bid on, and guys who select Boras as an agent probably do it because they like to be bid on, too.
All I’m saying is that you have to have a backup plan that isn’t “be like the Rockies.”
Nah they won a championship.
They already won a championship with him and he may leave as a free agent while Trout had Stockholm syndrome.
yes
If the consensus is they are unlikely to extend him, trading him is the most logical thing to do. They’re not good enough to compete this year and there’s not much help on the horizon. As I was looking through the Rays system, it is so deep and they are constantly battling 40 man roster crunches. They also don’t have the cash to sign big names free agents so trading for a young, team controlled stud could make sense for them. Perhaps they keep him for 2 years and than trade him before he hits free agency and recoup half the prospects they just gave away. They have the resources to get it done. A package headlined by Brujan would make the most sense. Obviously they would need to add a lot more but they could add 2-3 more 50+ FVs and a 40-45 or two it would hardly make a dent in their system.
In his worst hitting season, 300 plate appearances as a 40-year-old (after serving nearly 5 years in two wars), Williams was 11% above average.
In his next worst season, as a 20-year-old rookie, he was 56% better than league average.
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Paging Luis Garcia
Is Luis Garcia here?
Oh yeah good point! He should get a solid projection.
Dan missed a guy! does that even happen! I guess once.
looks like it could be as high as 0.7 fWAR, given Escobar’s projection and the projection for SS. Unless Cluff comes up and wins a golden glove.
I know Bonds was in a class of his own offensively, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Soto get a semi-Bonds treatment this season. I look at this lineup and I say “can’t let Soto beat you.”
sorry responded to the wrong comment. 🙁
Do you bat Soto leadoff to maximize his at bats (and WAR) during the season, or do you try and find 1 or 2 guys who at least do a decent job of reaching base to put ahead of him to maximize RBIs? I’m inclined to bat him second and bat Carlos Hernandez first. But it’s an interesting question. Bell is a good enough hitter to bat 3rd and will probably lead the team in RBIs batting behind Soto.
I can see the Nats signing someone like Soler to hit behind Soto and bank that his 2nd half with the Braves can be continued. It’d be a relatively inexpensive gamble for them.
Has anyone gotten a better projection than this one from Soto? If so, when? I know that Barry Bonds is the obvious answer, but can’t remember if ZIPS went back that far.
I was going to say Trout but he’s only topped a 177 wRC+ once in a full season with another year at exactly 177 so maybe not. Pujols maybe – he topped 177 three times. Only other guy I can think of would be MIggy and he only topped 177 once with another year at exactly 177.
Since 2000 there have only been 23 qualified seasons at 177 or better and 3 of those were in COVID-shortened 2020
Good call, Pujols had a 185 OPS+ in 2010. So I think it’s been 12 years….I have had Trout in a sim league, so I don’t think he ever got as high as 177, unless I am forgetting something.
If we’re talking about wRC+, it has absolutely not been 12 years since someone got to a 177… (I don’t even know where to look up OPS+, but it’s probably very similar)
Trout has done it in 4 of the last 5 years…
2021 190 (36 GP)
2020 161 (53 GP)
2019 177 (134 GP)
2018 188 (140 GP)
2017 180 (114 GP)
Soto, Freddie Freeman, Marcell Ozuna, and DJ LeMahieu all did it in 2020 (we should probably put less stock in the numbers coming out of that season, which is probably artificially inflating Soto’s projection, but we’ll know more in the next year or two as we get a better sense of whether his true talent ISO is actually near or above .300 versus ~.220-.260)
Mookie did it in 2018
Harper did it in 2015
Miggy and Trout did it in 2013
That’s 12 times in the last 9 seasons (4 full season and 1 part season by Trout, and 3 full seasons and 4 part seasons by everybody else combined).
The question is whether there’s been a *projection* of an wRC+ or OPS+ of 177, not whether someone actually *did*. Those are very, *very* different things. You expect a much tighter spread with projections (since they’re 50th percentile projections).
That Corbon projection is surprising. It seems really optimistic but it’s very similar to the Steamer projection so there’s got to be something to it. On the surface it didn’t really seem like Corbon turned his year around last year but when you dive deeper into the numbers, he kind of did. As Dan mentioned, his velocity steadily increased as the year progressed and he ended the year in line with his career norms. He went from having a 6.77 K/9 through July to a 8.76 K/9 from August 1st onward. Unfortunately that was paired with a 27% HR/FB rate so his ERA didn’t look much better but he did have a 3.87 xFIP over that time period.
Another thing to note about Corbin is that his year was extremely streaky. After his first two post-COVID recovery starts in April, he was somewhat effective from about 4/16 to the end of June. 4.01 ERA, 20% K rate, .311 wOBA against, .256 / .304 / .425. He was absolutely awful in July and August (.390 wOBA, 7.56 ERA, almost 3 HR/9), then recovered somewhat in September with only one bad start. There was an article here last year that there may have been a mess up in his delivery, so perhaps July and August were due to fixable / fixed things.
The Soto/Ted Williams comp is balanced out by all the other hitter comps here. It’s a genuine game: “How Many Non-Soto Comp Names Do You Recognize?” I recognize just three, including Bobby Bonds somehow slipping in at the end.
They have some good last names in there – McGriff, Bonds. Rose, Luzinski – but they never get the guy you really want.
Mays, Molina. Heilman sort of.
Gotta love a good Wes Helms comp
Bobby Bonds seems like an awfully good comp for a 26 year old .184 hitter
Matt Nokes does not warm my heart for the Ruiz comp. Brook Jacoby had some nice years with Cleveland. And, of course as your Red Sox / Nats following mod, seeing Jose Santiago and Way Back Wasdin comp for Espino and Jhon Romero brought back memories. Maybe they can trade Reid Schaller for Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek?
Oh, last meal on a trip before Covid was at Pecan Landing.
Have to say I’m surprised by the Bell projection. Turns 30 this year and in 6 seasons hasn’t shown he consistently be much better than replacement level
It seems like ZIPS doesn’t have give as negative of a positional outlook for 1B. Pete Alonso got like a 4+ WAR projection and he hasn’t done that since his rookie year. Also Alonso is an awful defender, he should really be a DH.
Alonso’s rookie year was only two years ago, and one of those two years was covid shortened. So basically all you’re saying is Alonso didn’t perfectly replicate his 5 WAR 2019 in 2021, when he put up 3 WAR. But given those totals, projecting him for 4 WAR going into his age 27 season, while relatively bullish, hardly seems outlandish.
Also, tho he had a bad defensive reputation coming up, Alonso was a (modest) positive ar first last year according to outs above average (+1). I don’t think anyone sees him as a plus defender going forward but he’s not an abomination over there.
Also, bWAR was even higher on Alonso’s 2019 & 2021, putting him at 5.5 and 4.2 WAR respectively. Dude was legit lousy in 2020 but his only two full years as a big leaguer more than bear out a 4 WAR projection.
But why aren’t we talking abt Juan Soto? JUAN SOTO.
Statcast says differently about Alonso’s defense at least in 2021.
Alonso had +5 DRS and +1 OAA this year……..
Obviously a lot of noise in one season’s worth of data, but there’s little evidence to say he’s a DH besides minor league scouting reports from 4 years ago
SOTO*7.8
STARRING JUAN SOTO
CO STARRING…uh…PATRICK CORBIN
and, uh, KEIBERT RUIZ
COMING TO A STADIUM NEAR YOU
DID WE MENTION WE HAVE JUAN SOTO
Did you forget about Luis Garcia? can’t seem to find him on the list
They have the willingness to spend. What would a full scale sell-off net in terms of prospects? Three+ 60 FVs, three+ 50 FVs, and like six to eight 40 FVs?
If they were to trade Soto, Stras, Corbin, sign stop-gaps and 1-2 top free agents for 2023 to be respectable. Then ball out on free agents prior to 2024, they’re probably a contender again with a brand new 3-5 year window.
A player of Soto’s caliber is kind of untradeable just because it would be tough to get an acceptable package. And you’d have to pay someone to take Stras and Corbin. Both are deep in the red value-wise.
Yeah, Strasburg has 5 YEARS for $175 MILLION left on his contract, has pitched 26 2/3 innings total with a FIP over 5.60 the last 2 years..& is coming off Thoracic Outlet surgery, which is notoriously tough to come back from.
Honestly, if you were picking the most underwater contract in baseball, Strasburg might be it.
Stanton’s remaining contract is a contender. I suppose he’s still good, and has a ways to fall before getting to “unplayable” level, where Strasburg might be.
Strasburg really should give Trent Grisham a percentage of that.
Strasburg and Corbin both have underwater contracts. Corbin might be tradeable if he bounces back, but Strasburg is probably going to be on the Nationals forever.
I don’t know how you ever get full value for Soto, but by my back of the envelope calculations he’s got about $135M in surplus value, and star-level players like him have been going ahead of their surplus value. I don’t know if you could do it without a 65 as a headliner, maybe a 60. After that, add up surplus value until you get to about $135M and then start throwing in FV40+’s, FV45’s, and FV45+’s like crazy.
The other guys who might get you something are Joe Ross and Josh Bell, but we’re not looking at big returns for them. In theory I’d also say Robles but the Nationals are better off keeping him and seeing if he learns how to hit or remembers how to play defense.
I was really hoping for a better projection for Lane Thomas. sheeesh! he was pretty good after the trade last year, and is still young.
The Mendoza line is back. Drew Mendoza is projected for .193!
I think it’s clear that the Nationals are a team that gets lucky with first round draft picks and guys turning into stars but is bad at evaluating and developing everyday players.
Victor Robles and Ian Desmond are/were decent everyday players. They also had Jordan Zimmermann. But yes all this was a long time ago. Of course they also wasted a first round pick on Drew Storen.
Considering not all first round picks become MLB players, Drew Storen was far from a dud pick. He had two seasons worth more than 1 War as a reliever. Granted you hope for more than that from a first-round pick, and clearly, he is not near the top of Nats picks, but he was a legit closer for a while.
Robles was not decent last year. Plus, 3 out of all the players the Nats drafted since 2006 is still a weak performance.
I would think Robles mammoth steps backwards make him the opposite of a success story at this point. There’s time to turn that around but rn he seems like a development failure.
Wait….WHO did Ronald Acuna and Fernando Tatis eat??
Projecting a career-high in steals for Soto. I personally wouldn’t risk it.
That’s a solid projection for Lane Thomas, especially for a guy the Nats basically got for free. With Arozarena in Tampa Bay being acquired for a lesser pitching prospect, I guess teams should be hitting up STL for their superfluous outfielders. I suppose Lars Nootbaar, Justin Williams, Austin Dean, and Connor Capel are next in line to be poached and turned into MLB contributors.
Nootbaar really should open a chocolate company that has a variety of nuts in chocolate.
Luis Garcia’s projection is .270/.308/.440 in 455 AB with 15 HR, for 1.5 WAR. His top offensive comp is Bill Mazeroski (Maz was more promising offensively as a very young player than he turned out to be!)
My apologies for him not being included here. When doing 2021 projections, I accidentally gave both Garcia the prospect and Garcia the journeymanish pitcher the same MLBAM ID, so he was erroneously sorted into the Padres rather than the Nats. I didn’t catch something wrong because it still automatically picked him up for the depth chart.
That’s not bad. He could give the Astros Luis Garcia a run for his money
thanks very cool!
.440 SLG makes him 4th on the team. Thats better than expected. if he is a SS then those are reasonable numbers. I just hope the glove is good enough to stick at SS.
Making a “team of comps” might make one pretty depressed about this current iteration of the Nats…
Ted Williams!!! And a bunch of rabble.
Bert Blyleven!!! And a bunch of rabble.
I asked the Hamburglar for his thoughts. He said “rabble rabble” also.
Man! it looks like we are a 2-3 WAR starting pitcher, 2-3 War leftfielder, 2-3 War shortstop, and several .5 to 1 WAR bullpen pieces away from a .500 team. Unfortunately, this makes me think we won’t see the postseason for the rest of Soto’s tenure here.
A lot of that rests on Cavalli and Gray, if they are serviceable or even really good and can make up a good chunk of the Stras and Corbin dead financial weight, then signing a FA like Schwarber and a serviceable shortstop might work.
They are not projected to be much more than mediocre this season, but maybe one of them takes a real big step forward anyway.
I’m thinking more about the next few years while we still have Soto, not necessarily just next year. I think with the right buy low FA signings to merely plug up gaping roster holes this can realistically be a 70-75 win team.
Soto is the best hitting talent we’ve seen since Bonds and Pujols. For instance, if you just take away Mike Trout’s best eight seasons, then Soto’s wRC+ from last year, his highest in a season with more than 50 games played, is higher than Trout ever achieved!
I love Soto but surely the best hitting talent since Bonds and Pujols is Trout.
wrc+ until age 22 season
Trout wrc+ 165
(19: wrc+ 87 in 135PA
20: wrc+ 167 in 639PA
21: wrc+ 176 in 716PA
22: wrc+ 171 in 705PA)
Soto wrc+ 156
(19: wrc+ 146 in 494PA
20: wrc+ 143 in 659PA
21: wrc+ 201 in 196PA
22: wrc+ 163 in 654PA)
For age 23-29 season, Trout has wrc+ 176.
Could Soto put this up? Sure.
Is it more likely than not? I doubt it.
I take the under unless the Nats go get him more help in the lineup that they have.
Thank you for this.
I agree, Soto is currently looking up at a similarly aged Trout.
Trout has (and had at that age) hit for a 200+ wRC+ over many 50 game samples.
Trout has never performed as poorly as a mere 146 wRC+ over any 150 game sample in his whole career… Something Soto has done more than half the time!
Soto is the best hitter in my time zone since T. Williams. Which basically means he’s the best hitter I’ve watched consistently in my lifetime.
When I really think about it Zips is way more optimistic on Robles, Garcia and Keiboom than I am. All were negative fWAR last season. I’m inclined to give Robles a pass, but Keiboom and Garcia have never done much to give me confidence. I think the NATs signed Maikel Franco and Carlos Hernandez to see if they can light a fire under them. But Franco has probably signed his last contract and Hernandez is not much of a bar to hurdle.
maybe I’m blind, but I don’t see a Luis Garcia projection. If Alcides is around -0.1, and SS is projected at 0.6, I would have expected maybe Garcia would be 0.7?
edit – I see this was picked up by another post below.
Dan Szymborski
Luis Garcia’s projection is .270/.308/.440 in 455 AB with 15 HR, for 1.5 WAR. His top offensive comp is Bill Mazeroski (Maz was more promising offensively as a very young player than he turned out to be!)
My apologies for him not being included here. When doing 2021 projections, I accidentally gave both Garcia the prospect and Garcia the journeymanish pitcher the same MLBAM ID, so he was erroneously sorted into the Padres rather than the Nats. I didn’t catch something wrong because it still automatically picked him up for the depth chart.
projections for Luis Garcia?
yep definitely see that this has been asked (and answered) about 9 times now
The comment here about the Durham Bulls bullpen reminds me of last year when I was trying to determine if the AAA Rays overall would win more games than the worst team in MLB. This was earlier in the season before Franco etc got called up to the bigs.
Josh Rogers has a WAR of -0.3 in the graphic but WAR of -0.5 in the table. Which one is right?
Both. The ZiPS projection is the ZiPS projection, the depth chart graphic uses the FG Depth Chart playing time.
Woof. They’re 1 Soto away from projecting as the worst in the MLB based on the released ZiPS, and that includes pretty rosy projections for Stras, Corbin, and Kieboom.
At least they won it all in ’19, because I’m not seeing how they can ‘retool’ and avoid a drawn out rebuild