A Todd Frazier Quiz
The Mets signed Todd Frazier yesterday, for two years and $17 million. One interpretation is that this is evidence of how the current free-agent market has cratered. Frazier, over the past three years, has been worth 10 WAR, and he just posted by far his best-ever walk rate. Another interpretation is that this is evidence of how badly Frazier wanted to remain in New York. He’s already got enough money to live on, and this way he’s still close to home, with a starting job on a potentially competitive team. You might say the Mets are kind of caught in the middle, but that’s not as bad a position as it sounds. Teams in the middle can over-achieve. The Mets are in the right place to invest.
The Frazier acquisition does get in the way of Wilmer Flores‘ playing time. Flores has been a fairly good hitter lately, and he’s still just 26. Perhaps this is only a lateral move, then, but really, Flores can still play; now he’s been turned into quality depth. He’s a better hitter than Jose Reyes, and he can help out at first should Adrian Gonzalez or Dominic Smith under-perform. The Mets now are better and deeper, and, compared to Flores, Frazier’s the superior defender.
That is one thing that gets lost: Frazier is a fine defender. He’s going to help the infield. But it gets lost in large part because Frazier is known for his pop. Over the past three years, only 11 players have hit more home runs, and Frazier’s sandwiched between Mike Trout and Bryce Harper. Frazier puts the ball in the air, and those have a tendency to carry. Frazier’s a home-run hitter, and that skill isn’t about to go away.
At the same time, over that three-year span, Frazier’s managed a paltry .247 BABIP. For the sake of comparison, Albert Pujols is at .242, and Jose Bautista’s at .243. It’s true that Frazier isn’t fast, and it’s true that Frazier gets air under the ball. But it’s more than that — Frazier hits an extreme number of infield flies. Since 2015, he’s hit ten more than the guy in second, and he’s hit 20 more than the guy in third. Todd Frazier has a proven pop-up problem, as shown in the following plot.
Again, it doesn’t matter, provided you don’t care how a pretty good player becomes a pretty good player. Frazier wouldn’t be any better if all those infield flies were strikeouts or grounders. Players are the sum of their skills, and Frazier has enough solid skills to get by. Yet this pop-up issue can’t just be ignored. In any given season, it’s not clear whether Frazier will finish with more homers or pop-ups. Each stat gives the other a run for its money, and Mets fans are about to do a lot of craning of their necks. So, in honor of Frazier’s pop-ups and pop, which are the twin function of his sometimes unconventional swing, I’ve prepared a little quiz.
It’s really quite simple. There are ten questions, and, for each poll, there’s a set of two screenshots. One shows the approximate moment of contact, and the other comes a few split-seconds later. You are to choose from two options: Are you seeing a Todd Frazier home run, or are you seeing a Todd Frazier pop-up? As a hint, note that I’ve included five homers and five pop-ups. Use that as a guideline, if you need it. For now, my work here is done. Godspeed and good luck.
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1. home run
2. pop-up
3. home run
4. home run
5. pop-up
6. pop-up
7. pop-up
8. home run
9. pop-up
10. home run
At 10 minutes after this post was up, the crowd is wrong on screenshots 4, 6, 7 and 8.
I got 6 and 10 wrong
This is an interesting exercise. You have to decide what you’re going to look at: pitch location, swing path, top hand. I mostly went with the level swings as home runs and looked at the top hand as a second data point if I was confused, since in some of the follow-throughs he looks a lot like he’s pulling off the ball. This turned out to mean I voted with the crowd on all but one, and the one where I was in the minority (#10) was an additional mistake. Basically no better than chance!
6 sure looks like a home run when you look at how well his hands are in and what seems like a balanced, strong follow through, but if you look at where the ball is, it is at least 6 inches in off the plate, and might even be right around the inside of the batters box. That’s gotta be a hard home run to hit.
Joey Votto is a fun outlier on the bottom of the scatter plot. 94 HR, 3 infield flyouts since 2015.
Any idea who the dot with ~42 pop ups and 6 dingers is?
update: It’s Billy Burns: 43 IFFB (more than Goldschmidt), 5 HR (um, less than Goldy) https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=c,11,27,51,50,61&season=2017&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=4,d&page=3_30
I believe Wade Boggs went an entire season without an infield pop up.
Joey Votto thinks that’s just adorable.
I don’t know how he hit #1 out of the park, but it didn’t look like a pitch that would be popped up either. If I wasn’t given those choices, I would have bet on a little dink off the end of the bat, maybe a foul to the right side, or a complete swing and miss.
As for this acquisition by the Mets, they seemingly can’t have enough players since they’ve been bit by injury so much, although last year it was more of the pitchers rather than position players. Frasier gives them lots of infield flexibility, which was sorely needed.
I’ve watched a lot of Todd Frazier at-bats the last couple years. This article summarizes a weird thing about him: he tends to hit homers on pitches that shouldn’t result in solid contact, and to slightly miss pitches that look very hittable.
I hate pop quizzes! They’re the worst.
Let’s just put it on the record that I actually (somehow) got all of these correct. Probably more of a product of watching him on the Southside for a year and a half.
This reminds me of the Paul Goldschmidt Dinger Test!
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-paul-goldschmidt-dinger-test/
Jeff’s creativity in baseball writing is unparalleled. I love articles like this!
Given the first one is at Coors, there should have been a third option of “both” in the voting.
I almost thought you were going to bamboozle us and they would all be home runs.
“Frazier wouldn’t be any better if all those infield flies were strikeouts or grounders.”
Is that really true, though? What percentage of groundouts might move a runner or score a runner from third? How many turn into an error? How much of a run are those worth each, and in total?
I get that groundouts aren’t MUCH more valuable than a strikeout or infield fly, but to say they are ZERO more valuable just seems incorrect.
Anyone know the math on this?
The easiest is a ground ball averages .05 runs/out. (or 20 GB’s equal a run). So about 1.5 runs more. So he would be better if every IFFB was a grounder it wouldn’t be much.
If you want to look at the inputs I think its .22 GB BABIP, and an league average 10% DP conversion (only on opportunities). So approximately 6 more hits reduced by the double plays across all 35 now ground balls. So a few more double plays as well. You would also look at the percentage of times a GB advanced a runner thus changing the run expectancy.
But I would just use the .05 runs/out. You would get pretty close.
My biggest takeaway from this article is that Joey Votto is a damn wizard. He has over *100* fewer popups than Frazier over the same time period.
That was a rough top of the 1st for King Felix.