A Very Stupid Jose Altuve Hypothetical

There are certain club options we just take for granted. Andrew McCutchen has only one guaranteed year remaining on his deal, but it’s almost unimaginable that his employer might turn down his $14.5-million club option for 2018. Similarly, Chris Sale has only one guaranteed year remaining, but then he has consecutive club options, worth $12.5 million and $15 million, respectively. These are very good players, so for all intents and purposes, McCutchen’s locked up two years, and Sale’s locked up three.

I was wondering last night just how bad McCutchen would have to be in 2017 for his option to be declined. I then quickly one-upped myself. The McCutchen answer was maybe somewhat interesting. But what about an even more team-favorable option? Enter Jose Altuve. Altuve is under guaranteed contract for 2017. Then he has a club option, worth $6 million. And, for the sake of being thorough, that’s followed by another club option, worth $6.5 million. The question to be addressed: How bad would Altuve have to be this year for the Astros to not want to pay him $6 million the year after?

This hypothetical is exceptionally stupid. Let’s get on with it, then.

You can come up with various reasons why the Astros might elect to let Altuve go. Maybe he snaps and attacks the whole coaching staff. Maybe he loses a leg. Maybe he loses an arm! Maybe he switches a leg and an arm. Maybe he develops an affinity for clubhouse beekeeping. Altuve could go crazy or become disabled, and then, sure, it’s obvious how the Astros would proceed. I don’t want to entertain those ideas, though. Those feel like taking the easy way out. I want to concentrate on only on-field performance.

To begin, what’s $6 million? Under what circumstances would the Astros not want to pick up that option? They’d decline if Altuve didn’t project to be worth $6 million. We’ll use that as a strict threshold. Based on the usual assumptions, a year from now a win on the market will go for about $8.4 million. So Altuve would have to project to be worth less than 0.71 WAR.

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For simplicity, I’ll use 0.7 WAR as the target. Look — this is a post full of assumptions and simplifications. They’re being used to answer one of the stupidest baseball questions you could possibly ask. Forgive me for rounding. To get to a number, I need to work out a basic projection. We know we want Altuve to project to be worth 0.7 WAR. Let’s say that’s over a full season. For a typical projection, the calculations consider about four years of historical data. A table:

Hypothetical Altuve
Season Age WAR/600
2014 24 4.3
2015 25 3.9
2016 26 5.6
2017 27 ???
2018 28 0.7

Time to solve for 2017’s WAR per 600 plate appearances. I’ve decided to use weights of 4, 3, 2, and 1, to assign significance to each year. The 2017 numbers would matter the most. I’ll spare you the middle-school math. Here’s the answer I got.

Hypothetical Altuve
Season Age WAR/600
2014 24 4.3
2015 25 3.9
2016 26 5.6
2017 27 -5.5
2018 28 0.7

Altuve played a full season in 2014. He was great! He played full seasons in 2015 and 2016, and in each year, he was great. Let’s think about a full season in 2017, and a projected full season in 2018. To get to our number — for the Astros to want to decline Altuve’s club option — he’d have to be about five and a half wins worse than the accepted replacement-level.

I think he’d have to play like that for quite a while. If Altuve were worth -1 WAR or whatever over 100 plate appearances, the Astros wouldn’t really flinch. If he were worth -2.75 WAR over 300 plate appearances, even then, I think the Astros pick up the option. You’d need a full year, or close to it. I know it’s hard to imagine, but, imagine it. This whole post is for the imagination.

Problem: The lowest position-player WAR ever is -4.0, achieved by Jim Levey in 1933. Since 1900, there have been 35,011 player-seasons with at least 100 plate appearances. Of those, 120, or 0.34%, finished at a pace no better than -5.5 WAR/600. Picking from that group, 113 of the player-seasons ended with fewer than 200 plate appearances. The highest plate-appearance total in the group is 251. Very understandably, when a player has been this horrible, he hasn’t been able to play very much. Altuve would have to make some history to make some history.

One name of certain significance: Ben Zobrist. Zobrist turned into something really good, right? He’s still really good to this day. Earlier in his career, though, he sputtered in the majors, and he was dreadful in 2007, when he batted 105 times. His WAR/600 that year was -6.3. Worse than the calculated Altuve mark! But without enough playing time to really matter.

How could one even get to -5.5 WAR? Let’s preserve Altuve’s league adjustment, which gives him a slight benefit for playing in the AL. And we’re going to preserve the replacement-level boost that just goes into every WAR calculation. On a per-600-PA basis, we need Altuve’s offense + defense to work out to -74.1 runs. That’s compared to average. Offense includes hitting and baserunning. Defense includes performance and position.

Here’s the so-called Altuve line, against every other player-season since 1900 with at least 600 plate appearances.

altuve-line

The closest player is 1930 Tommy Thevenow, around -49 offense and -10 defense. Still 15 runs too good. So let’s construct a performance line, using 2016 player comparisons, for the benefit of familiarity!

First, we’ll plug in Yan Gomes as a hitter. In his first season as a semi-regular, Gomes posted a 128 wRC+! Last year he finished at 33. His bat was worth -48.4 runs per 600 PA. Horrible year for Yan Gomes.

Now, baserunning. Hello there, Billy Butler. He’s always been bad. His baserunning has literally cost his teams about nine wins since his debut. Nine wins! Last year, his baserunning value per 600 worked out to -12.7 runs. Already, this hypothetical Altuve wouldn’t be reaching base very often. When he would reach base, he’d have to be super difficult to move around. He’d also have to run into some stupid outs. He’d just really have to suck.

At last, defense. I’m going to use Trevor Plouffe here. Plouffe’s Def/600 last year was -14.7. In both 2014 and 2015, Plouffe rated as a positive defender. Last year he just came undone. I know Plouffe has been mostly a third baseman, and not a second baseman, but I don’t care. They’re similar positions. This is what Altuve would have to achieve, on top of everything else.

Put the numbers together: -75.8 runs. Say Jose Altuve plays something like a full season in the year ahead. If he hits like 2016 Yan Gomes, runs like 2016 Billy Butler, and defends like 2016 Trevor Plouffe, he’d end up with a WAR/600 of -5.7. At that point, factoring that performance into Altuve’s projection, the Astros might be disinclined to pick up Altuve’s $6-million option for 2018. He’d project to be worth a little bit less than that, and the Astros are all about financial efficiency.

Still, Altuve would be looking ahead to his age-28 season. There’d be that other club option, so maybe the Astros would pick it up anyway. If they didn’t, someone would sign Altuve and give him a job. Bounce-back candidate, and everything. What does $6 million even mean anymore? Teams are throwing this money around like it’s nothing.

But there’s always a limit. Following the math laid out in this post, if Altuve had his 2018 club option declined, all it would take would be by far the worst season in major-league history. That season, incidentally, would still be better than any season you could have, given the chance. Remember that in case Altuve really does just go completely off the rails.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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IMW
9 years ago

“That season, incidentally, would still be better than any season you could have, given the chance.”

… harsh, dude…

Mike NMN
9 years ago

Nice thought exercise. In 2000, Roy Halladay managed -2.8 bWAR in 67.2 IP. What would it take to have a hypothetical option exercise

HappyFunBallMember since 2019
9 years ago

LOLWUT?

YKnotDisco
9 years ago

“He’d also have to run into some stupid outs”.

You can check that 1 off the list.

Erik.T
9 years ago
Reply to  YKnotDisco

Hitting into double plays also brings this number down. He probably just needs to turn 10 of his normal steals into caught stealing and he could probably get close to that number.

ashlandateam
9 years ago

This is my favorite article premise ever.

CC AFCMember since 2016
9 years ago

This is a hilarious concept. I feel like a young player suddenly losing the ability to hit, run and field would be the position player equivalent of what happened to Rick Ankiel

Monsignor Martinez
9 years ago

Articles like this are why I kinda enjoy the offseason.

White Jar
9 years ago

So basically his whole season would have to go like this play went for the Dodgers…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLWdFeefFIA

nenrightMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  White Jar

Knew what it was before I even clicked. My favorite part of that is Vin Scully knowing that the throw was offline before it even got to the catcher and going “are you kidding?”

ashlandateam
9 years ago
Reply to  nenright

“Holy mackerel, that’s embarrassing.”

YKnotDisco
9 years ago
Reply to  ashlandateam

A part of me just died, I just came to the realization that I don’t get the honor of hearing his iconic voice call more than just a baseball game. No more of that warm feeling that I got when I tuned into a televised Dodger game. You know the one I’m talking about, the same feeling you get watching a game with your Grandpa.

MadMonkMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  nenright

as a Padres fan, that was the most fun we had late in the season in yet another loss. the best part of that is how tired Liriano was after all the running around the bases. and, yeah, the tone of incredulity in Vin Scully’s voice.

Michael Carpenter
9 years ago
Reply to  nenright

The Padre announcer said “what’s going on here? A Little League game has broken out!”

Momus
9 years ago
Reply to  White Jar

I think that was the most embarrassing, and funniest, sequence I’ve ever seen in a baseball game.

…and that includes the Rangers epic game five 7th inning meltdown against the Blue Jays in the 2015 postseason.

Da Bear
9 years ago
Reply to  White Jar

As this is an Astros article, this play might be more evocative: http://www.sbnation.com/2012/8/7/3226043/houston-astros-bad-play-oh-man-what-is-this-i-dont-even

At least on the Dodgers play, they actually turned an out.

AnonMember since 2020
9 years ago

Love it! Great article. BTW, you can turn it around as well. Matt Cain hasn’t been good since 2012 with cumulative 1.0 WAR from 2013-2016 and -0.5 WAR from 2014-2016. Matt Cain also has a 2018 team option for $21M (with a $7.5M buyout). How good would Matt Cain have to be in 2017 to make the Giants say, “I know we’ve been waiting for this day to come for 5 years so we could get this salary off the books but you know what, we’re keeping him.”

BTW 2 – is Altuve’s option the biggest “yes” no-brainer ever? THere have definitely been easier “no” team options (Ryan Howard’s 2017 team option for example, though that does come with a $10M buyout), but I would be hard-pressed to come up with a more obvious yes

White Jar
9 years ago
Reply to  Anon

If he wins the Cy Young, do they keep him?

crazycrabMember since 2017
9 years ago
Reply to  Anon

The marginal cost of Cain’s option is $14.3M, and that buys 1.7 WAR at $8.4M/WAR. Using the 4-3-2-1 weighting from earlier, Cain needs 4.5 WAR this year to project for 1.7 WAR next year.

I bet the Giants would pick up the option even with a lower WAR, if they have a rotation spot. Definitely at 3 wins, maybe even a shade less. Cain making it to 3 wins would require a dramatic improvement, dramatic enough to imply that he fixed something.

Scott Kazmir went through pretty much this. He came back in 2013 with 2.7 wins after three worthless years, and he got $22M for 2 years, ~1.5 WAR/year at the time. Almost spot on with where Cain is, so yeah, 3 wins and the Giants probably pick him up.

Da Bear
9 years ago
Reply to  Anon

John Lackey’s contract had a clause where if he missed significant time with TJ surgery (which he did, in 2012), the deal was extended by a 2015 team option at league minimum salary.

AnonMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  Da Bear

Good call on Lackey. Forgot about that one. IIRC, he was talking about retiring rather than pitching for league min. Bet he’s glad he didn’t now

Rols1026
9 years ago

You know its the offseason when you see articles like this…

But in all honesty this is the best thing I’ve read in a long time. Great writing as always Jeff.

bombguy85
9 years ago

NotGraphs…. is that you?

Angelsjunky
9 years ago

I like the idea of this article, but I would suggest making it a tad more viable by–in this case–thinking in terms of that second option. In other words, how would Altuve have to peform in 2017 and 2018 for the Astros to not pick up his 2019? Because, quite frankly, unless it is one of the phantasmagorical options you mention in the fourth paragraph, the Astros are going to pick up a measly $6 million option. No matter what he does on the field.

So you could do a similar article about Trout or Harper. How would Trout have to perform over the next few years–and for how long–for the Angels to outright release him before he’s done with his 2020 club-controlled years? Or how bad would things have to get for Bryce over the next two years for no one to offer him a major league contract in 2019? (And of course the same applies: someone would give Bryce a contract in 2019 no matter what he does on the field, so I guess the realistic adjustment would be for him to only get a One Year Prove Myself Deal).

jianadaren
9 years ago
Reply to  Angelsjunky

The real answer for Altuve is that it’s impossible for him to be bad enough to decline the 2018 option: that $6M doesn’t only buy 2018 services, it also buys the 2019 option itself.

There’s just too much option value in the two options combined that there will always be enough upside to pick up the first option, no matter how poorly he could play next year. The only way the options can get declined is if there’s something catastrophic that eliminates that upside, like a major injury.

CozarMember since 2020
9 years ago

Even if Altuve played that poorly until the All-star break, baseball would assume.e he just needs a change of scenery. Thus, the Astros would trade him and get good value still. Then the new team would pick up the option.

I think the real answer is Altuve would have to be so bad that he is untraceable, at which point tbe Astros would probably just release him.

John Autin
9 years ago

I enjoyed Jeff’s having fun with this exercise. But horrific performance alone couldn’t tempt the Astros to decline the option. It would have to come with an obvious, lingering cause.

For a sense of the rarity and limits of a collapse by a player of Altuve’s caliber and age, I built a cohort for age 24-26 based on 70% of his 18.2 bWAR. There are 199 modern players who totaled at least 12.7 bWAR for 24-26, and have now completed at least age 27.

Not one of these guys missed a whole year at 27 or 28 or totaled less than 435 PAs for those 2 years, except the three in WWII service each year.

At 27, only two had negative bWAR, and just slightly: Grady Sizemore, -0.4 in 140 PAs, and Orlando Cepeda, -0.2 in 40 PAs. All but one of the rest had at least 200 PAs, except the servicemen.

At 28, again just two had negative bWAR, none reaching a whole -1: Mike Greenwell, -0.9 playing full-time, and Al Bridwell, -0.4 in 116 PAs. All the rest had at least 194 PAs, except the servicemen and Starling Marte, who’ll be 28 next year.

For age 27-29 combined, the closest thing to a total collapse while still playing regularly was John Mayberry. He totaled 14.2 bWAR for 24-26 — 19th-best in MLB over 1973-75, but still just 78% of Altuve’s total — and then just 1.6 bWAR for 27-29, with 150+ games each year. Mayberry recovered enough to score 1+ bWAR each year from 30-32, but after 26 he was never above average. (And Bill James never forgave him.)

Momus
9 years ago

It was an amusing thought exercise but the truth is that Altuve’s first option will be picked up even if he has the worst season of all time in 2017. There is literally no level of sucking that would prevent that. A better question would be “How bad would be have to be in 2017 and 2018 to cause the team to not pick up his 2019 option?” I would still say there’s basically no level where they make that decision tbh.

Honestly, even if he had a career threatening injury that would cost him an entire season I think they still pick up both option years just in case. He’s an elite 2B being paid less than a replacement level 1B.

Timbooya
9 years ago

So… give him a lefty glove and force him to bat lefty. Would that work?

Jetsy Extrano
9 years ago
Reply to  Timbooya

Put a glove on one foot, a bat in the other, and make him run on his hands.

lesmashMember since 2017
9 years ago

If the Astros hire Dr. Nick Riviera then Altuve will regress for the leg and arm switcheroo thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgqKv9rkAE0

Brett
9 years ago

Perhaps he hits his final growth spurt and can’t handle a bigger strike zone, plus becomes a klutz on those long dancers legs.

heyfling
9 years ago

What if Altuve required Tommy John surgery near the end of 2017 season and wasn’t likely to be ready until the middle of the 2019 season? Would it be worth it to keep Altuve in the organization during his 2 option seasons, if you knew you were only going to get half a season of production out of him?

backward galaxy
9 years ago

Articles like this one are one of the reasons why I keep coming back to this site. Great work.

jianadaren
9 years ago

“That season, incidentally, would still be better than any season you could have, given the chance.”

No way man. Given the chance, I would go 0 for 4 with four strikeouts and probably 3-4 errors. Then I would be expelled from baseball with a career WAR of ~-.3. That’s way better than HypoAltuve.

Da Bear
9 years ago
Reply to  jianadaren

Not just WAR, but WAR/600, in which case your numbers (if accurate) would be good for a total of -45.

TerenceMember since 2016
9 years ago

Fun Fact:

In 2014 Jose Altuve didn’t make the top 50 of Dave’s trade value list.
In 2015 he was #35 behind Andrelton Simmons, Yasiel Puig and a bunch of guy’s whose arms have fallen off.

dustin0224
9 years ago

Very entertaining. This reminded me of the replacement level Andrelton Simmons article done a few years ago: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/a-replacement-level-andrelton-simmons/

Jetsy Extrano
9 years ago

This is my favorite scatterplot for the whole week!

SubmarineSailor
9 years ago

“The question to be addressed: How bad would Altuve have to be this year for the Astros to not want to pay him $6 million the year after?”

The answer: Dead. He would have to be literally not-alive, or maybe paralyzed, for that option to not get picked up. Even if he morphed into the Frankenstein’s Monster of suck described above, they’d exercise it, just because of the track record.