Another Way Kevin Kiermaier Is Underrated

Kevin Kiermaier is underrated. How do I know? I guess I don’t know, but by and large, Kiermaier is not considered one of the best players in baseball. This despite having performed like one of the best players in baseball. The last three years, by WAR, Kiermaier has been as valuable as Robinson Cano, Andrew McCutchen, and Yoenis Cespedes, all while collecting far fewer plate appearances. Kiermaier is projected to be as valuable as Carlos Correa and Giancarlo Stanton. The numbers are in love, and they paint a certain picture. Kiermaier is presently the most important player on his team.

Being a FanGraphs reader, you at least kind of know what Kiermaier is about. He’s underrated because his standout skill is outfield defense, and he swings a roughly average bat. I’ll say this: Although Kiermaier’s UZRs are extreme, DRS loves him even more. He has a career outfield UZR of +60. He has a career outfield DRS of +81. That would be another two wins, more or less.

So, the major reason Kiermaier’s underrated: His strongest skill is underrated. Beyond that, it doesn’t help him that he’s played for a nationally invisible ballclub. Let me add a third reason. For this part, I’m going to call in Jorge Soler.

Between Kiermaier and Soler, who was the better hitter last season? Let’s take this all the way back to the first days of your baseball education. Kiermaier batted .246, and Soler batted .238. Edge Kiermaier, right?

No, that’s stupid. Not all hits are created alike, and you can’t just forget about walks. Kiermaier had a .741 OPS, while Soler came in at .769. Advantage Soler!

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There’s still room for improvement. OPS doesn’t properly weight the significance of getting on base. Kiermaier notched a wOBA of .323. Soler, meanwhile, came in with a wOBA of .333. Soler’s advantage remains intact.

Just one more step, yes? Gotta account for environment. Soler hit more, but he also played in places that yielded more productive hitting in general. Tampa Bay is not a good hitter’s ballpark. So we’re left to consider Kiermaier’s 104 wRC+, against Soler’s 106. Soler retains a slight advantage. Really, though, the difference is negligible, and the players were tied.

That’s about as far as we tend to take things. We’ve walked through all the usual adjustments. But there’s one more adjustment that’s almost never made. It’s almost never made because data is practically impossible to track down, but hitters in the majors don’t face equivalent pitchers. There can be strength-of-schedule issues, which, yeah, of course there would be. Most of the time, it isn’t that important, and the landscape is even enough. Yet there are always players at either extreme, and you can look at them at Baseball Prospectus.

That linked report shows you the average pitcher a hitter faced in a given year. You see average BA, OBP, and SLG allowed, along with True Average (sort of their version of wOBA) and RPA+ (sort of their version of wRC+). The higher the average RPA+ allowed, the worse the average pitcher. So, I linked you to the 2016 report. There were more than 300 players who batted at least 250 times. According to this information, at least, Kiermaier was tied with teammate Logan Forsythe for having faced the toughest slate of pitchers. Why wouldn’t we think that would matter?

You can go past just this last season, too. Kiermaier in 2015 ranked at 288 out of 295, in descending order of RPA+. And in 2014, Kiermaier ranked at 271 out of 302. Provided that this information is accurate and reliable, Kiermaier has faced a bunch of tougher-than-average opponents. So the version of him we’ve seen has hit less than you’d expect of another version treated more, I don’t know, fairly.

Let’s switch back to 2016. Look at that leaderboard again. Kiermaier is at the bottom, because he apparently faced the best average pitcher. And Soler is at the top, because he apparently faced the worst average pitcher. Soler’s data point is particularly outrageous. This post could probably be about him. His average opponent was good for a 116 RPA+, and no hitter has faced such an easy slate of opponents since at least 1969, given a minimum of 250 plate appearances. The fact of the matter is that, while Soler hit well enough, he was already set up to succeed.

Let’s pull in a more familiar measure. A FanGraphs measure — specifically, ERA-. That’s park-adjusted ERA, on a scale normalized to 100, where better pitchers are under 100 and worse pitchers are over 100. Two years ago, Soler’s average opponent had a 97 ERA-. Last year, his average opponent had a 112 ERA-. That presumably helps to explain how Soler made gains in walks, strikeouts, and power. And Kiermaier? This past year, Kiermaier’s average opponent had a 96 ERA-. It’s not like he was facing ace after ace after ace, but little things add up over a full season. For 2016, Kiermaier’s average opponent was Sean Manaea, or Jeff Samardzija. Soler’s average opponent was Doug Fister, or Jorge de la Rosa.

Which gives you one more thing to think about beyond the slight difference in wRC+. Though Soler was better there by two points, he was facing worse pitchers, and therefore presumably worse pitches. Worse pitches are easier pitches to hit, or to take. Adjusting for opponent moves Kiermaier out in front. He’s even better than he seems, and he just needs a different schedule to show it.

It’s not the difference between Kevin Kiermaier hitting like Kevin Kiermaier and Kevin Kiermaier hitting like Mike Trout. His stat line still mostly reflects who he is, and even with a basically average bat, Kiermaier is a saber-stat superstar. But among the things true about him is the fact that, since Kiermaier emerged in the majors, he’s faced a lot of better-than-average pitchers. That would’ve pushed his offense down, in effect pushing his estimated value down. Kiermaier, incredibly, is even better than his WAR. And Jorge Soler? At least he’s got tools.





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Dolemite
9 years ago

Stupid question…. has anyone published a stat that is essentially WRC+, but scaled to the opponent’s era-?

Dolemite
9 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Sullivan

Keep pushing. Make it something!
MOAR STATS!

WARrior
9 years ago
Reply to  Dolemite

There have been attempts, e.g., this:

https://www.gcsu.edu/sites/files/page-assets/node-808/attachments/mortensen.pdf

The author weights SLG according to pitcher difficulty. While his approach is very interesting, there are some flaws that would be obvious to anyone following the game. E.g., the player with the highest weighted SLG for the year 2012 was Jason Kipnis. IOW, when quality of pitchers faced is taken into account, Kipnis emerges as the top slugger in baseball. Cabrera is second, which is reasonable, but Alex Gordon is third, and Trout does not make the top 100!

Aside from the fact that we wouldn’t expect that differences in pitchers faced would affect SLG that much, two of the top three pitchers in the ranking played for Cleveland, so Kipnis wouldn’t face them at all. He would frequently face three other top pitchers who played for the White Sox, but the latter would not face two WS batters who were with Kipnis in the top 5. Also, one of the toughest pitchers listed only pitched two innings the entire season.

So a lot of bugs to work out.

Baltar
9 years ago

I love this article adding another reason, in addition to his defense and base running, why Kiermaier is a great player. He’s been my favorite player since he arrived in MLB.
And to think he lasted until round 31 in the draft. 29 teams passed on him 30 or so times each.

shaq_diesel
9 years ago
Reply to  Baltar
johansantana17Member since 2026
9 years ago
Reply to  shaq_diesel

wow. Best outfield throw from a non-Cuban that I’ve seen in years.

goyo70
9 years ago

Unsurprisingly, there is a strong team bias in all of the results. The Cubs faced terrible pitching, whereas the Rays and Royals on average faced much better pitching. How consistent is this bias from year to year? Is the NL East pitching generally crappy? Is it a broader difference in strength of league?

johansantana17Member since 2026
9 years ago
Reply to  goyo70

The Cubs are in the NL Central. Their divisional opponents are the Pirates, Reds, Brewers and Cardinals. The first three teams had awful pitching last year, and the Cardinals were good but not excellent.

HarryLives
9 years ago

I imagine if you looked into pitchers and the difficulty of the hitters they’ve faced over the past several years, some Rays pitchers would be at the top of that list, too. The AL East is a tough division all around.

Sandy Kazmir
9 years ago

I’d also add that most lefties don’t hit lefties. Additionally, many lefties don’t have to hit lefties because of the platoon system. Not Kiermaier. He plays everyday regardless of opposition starter handedness. While it is one thing to say that he faced very tough pitchers, it is another to acknowledge that he had the platoon advantage less often than a guy like Soler or most other lefties who have a crutch.

Jim HMember since 2016🏆 MVP
9 years ago

Average for each division. Average every player over 250 PAs. Not weighted by PAs.

AL East 97.1
AL Central 97.9
AL West 99.6

NL East 104.5
NL Central 106.5
NL West 102.8

Jim HMember since 2016🏆 MVP
9 years ago
Reply to  Jim H

By team. Every player over 250 PAs averaged. No weighting by individual player PA totals.
BAL 96.5
BOS 98.3
NYA 97.0
TBA 94.1
TOR 99.5
CHA 95.7
CLE 102.2
DET 97.7
KCA 95.2
MIN 98.6
HOU 101.5
ANA 99.2
OAK 99.2
SEA 99.0
TEX 98.9
ATL 102.7
MIA 103.9
NYN 105.2
PHI 103.3
WAS 107.6
CHN 110.5
CIN 104.2
MIL 107.2
PIT 103.5
SLN 107.1
ARI 102.2
COL 104.5
LAN 103.6
SDN 100.5
SFN 103.4

jason shureMember since 2017
9 years ago
Reply to  Jim H

is there a place to see the symmetrical stat, factors comparing the lineup strength of teams?

johansantana17Member since 2026
9 years ago
Reply to  Jim H

It’s very interesting that all AL divisions faced better pitchers than all NL division. Usually the NL is thought of as the strong pitching league and the AL the strong hitting league.

John Autin
9 years ago
Reply to  johansantana17

The AL is simply the better league, year after year, so why wouldn’t that include pitching?

roadrider
9 years ago

Eh, comparing Kiermaier to Soler who, despite his tools, kind of sucks is hardly an argument for Kiermaier as one of the “best players in baseball”. He’s one of the best if not the best defensive outfielders. At the plate? Meh. Would I take him on my team? Absolutely. My team has Jacoby Ellsbury, who overrated in his prime, is now well into his decline phase and is owed tons of money that he’s no where near being worth for a lot of years. Kiermaier probably is underrated but hardly by the amount you claim. I admit my bat first bias and my disdain for how FG overvalues defense on the basis some rather dubious statistics. But that said, IMNSHO Kiermaier while clearly an above-average player is no where near guys like Trout, Betts, Bryant, Seager, Machado, or Harper (even with his down year). You don’t have to construct abstruse statistical arguments to give any of those guys a tiny edge on a scrub like Soler.

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9 years ago
Reply to  roadrider

Hein, comparing Kicker Kiermaier Soler is, however, almost no one argument Kiermaier was one of “the best baseball player.” It’s one of the best, if not the best protection against. On a plate? I’m not sexy? It will be on my team? Absolutely. My team Ellsburi, Jacobi’s Municipality has overrated its strength, is now in the decline stage and have a ton of money, it is not nearly the problem for years. Kiermaier can be ignored, but most of the Fund’s receivables. I admit that I am biased first dish and my disdain for the vai FG defense overestimates rather vague statistics. However, he said, IMNSHO Kiermaier until it’s clear that players on average almost salmon, Bets, Bryant brought, trying, Machado or location Harper (even with him over the years). You don’t need to build statistical ilanke that none of these people give a slight edge to the handle as Soler.

Mahoney
9 years ago

Kevin Kiermaier hitting like Mike Trout = 11 WAR per season.

Noah BaronMember since 2016
9 years ago

This article also could have been about how the Cubs hitters benefit greatly from facing bad pitchers