Baseball’s Hardest Thrower Gets the Second-Fewest Strikeouts
I’m going to show you two clips, featuring right-handed rookie relievers around their top fastball speeds. One of these relievers has struck out almost a third of the batters he’s faced. That’s good! It’s not exactly Josh Hader good, but then, nobody is. Hader is on another level. Anyway, the other one of these relievers hasn’t struck out even a tenth of the batters he’s faced. Absent any other information, that’s bad! It should at least make success very difficult to achieve. I know I’ve kind of ruined it with the headline, but I don’t care, we’re still doing this. I’m the one in control of how this goes.
PITCHER A
PITCHER B
Pitcher A is Jordan Hicks, of the Cardinals. His fastball has averaged about a hundred miles per hour. Pitcher B is Adam Cimber, of the Padres. His fastball has averaged about 86 miles per hour. Hicks has thrown his fastball roughly three-quarters of the time. Cimber has thrown his fastball roughly three-quarters of the time. But it’s Cimber who has 31 strikeouts in 24.2 innings. Hicks has nine in 22. This is the opposite of what the average person would think.
Hicks, today, stands as the hardest thrower in the major leagues. He’s the hardest thrower by average velocity, and he’s the hardest thrower by peak velocity. There’s not that much of a separation between Hicks and Aroldis Chapman, because Chapman will be throwing 96 even after he’s dead, but Hicks has the lead by almost a tick. And he made waves on Sunday when he reached almost unprecedented speeds. Facing Odubel Herrera, Hicks threw a couple fastballs that might’ve been 105. They also might’ve been 106. The recording instruments can be only so precise, and the specific number doesn’t really matter, anyway. No one ever sees 105. Only Chapman had ever done that, to our knowledge. Hicks pitched at the very limit of human capability. No, he wasn’t sitting at 105, but even just getting there is amazing.
You’d think that we should be able to draw a straight line. The faster the pitch, the harder it is to hit. Indeed, major-league pitchers benefit when they get to higher speeds. It seems like it ought to be simple. Hicks throwing 105 is amazing in part because, pretty much no one else can do that. And Hicks throwing 105 is amazing in part because, who could possibly hit that? It feels like Hicks should be the most dominant pitcher in the game. At least, the toughest to make contact against.
Nope. Out of every pitcher who’s thrown at least 20 innings, Hicks has the second-lowest strikeout rate, ahead of only Alex Claudio. And out of the same pool, Hicks has the single lowest K-BB%. Over the past five years, when position players have taken the mound, they’ve posted a collective K-BB% of -4.3%. Hicks is at -7.4%. Out of 95 batters faced, he’s struck out nine of them, while walking 16. He’s also hit another three. The saving grace here is that Hicks has a top-ten rate of ground balls. He hasn’t allowed a homer. But his xFIP is 53% worse than the average. Jordan Hicks is perplexing.
And Hicks is useful, because he’s a reminder of a few different things. He’s a reminder of just how good major-league batters are at getting the bat on the ball. He’s a reminder of how fastballs are more than just their velocities. And he’s a reminder of how pitching is more complicated than it seems like it should be. You have to do more than throw hard — even if you throw harder than literally anyone else.
Part of this is easy to understand. Why doesn’t Hicks strike more batters out? Just look at the walks. He’s wild. Been better lately, but still wild. Hicks’ overall strike rate ranks in the sixth percentile. Batters are better when they’re not behind in the count. If you don’t have command, you want to at least have control.
Another factor here is that Hicks doesn’t throw a hard four-seamer. Rather, he throws a sinker, and while it’s a hard sinker, sinkers in general are more hittable. This year, four-seamers at 95 or harder have allowed a contact rate of 76%. Meanwhile, sinkers and two-seamers at 95 or harder have allowed a contact rate of 81%. Not all sinkers are created alike, and, of course, someone like Zach Britton can get whiffs on a sinker all day long, but the movement tends to just be more contact-friendly. We know that because it’s what the numbers have always suggested. A rising four-seamer can appear to be deceptive. Sinkers are thrown lower, and they drop closer to the bat path.
As you’d imagine, there’s still another factor. Hicks doesn’t exclusively throw his fastball — he also has a breaking ball around 85. But it’s not a slider he controls very well. I looked at pitcher swing rates, league wide, when they throw non-fastballs. The swing rate against Hicks’ non-fastballs ranks in the 1st percentile. Almost the lowest rate in the game. Which could be a good thing, if Hicks could reliably spot his slider around the zone edge. Instead, Hicks has been a fastball pitcher without a pitch for hitters to chase. As noted earlier, major-league hitters are exceptionally good, and they can time any existing fastball provided they don’t have to worry about anything else.
It seems bizarre for Hicks’ strikeouts to be where they are, just given his arm strength. And yet we should remember we’ve seen hints of this. Chapman has forever been a strikeout machine, because he’s paired his four-seam fastball with a dangerous slider. Yet Brian Ellington averaged almost 100, and he posted underwhelming strikeout rates. Ditto last season’s Joe Kelly. Ditto 2016’s Mauricio Cabrera. Cabrera’s fastball actually averaged over 100. He struck out 19.8% of opponents. Josh Collmenter struck out more batters than that. Hicks is the most extreme data point in both directions, but baseball has been telling us for a while that velocity doesn’t equal punch outs. Not, at least, at the velocity levels we’ve observed.
Some of you might be thinking that I’m overrating whiffs. Sure, Hicks hasn’t missed many bats, but he’s got a 2.05 ERA. Hasn’t allowed a home run. He’s allowed a total of only four home runs as a professional, over more than two full seasons. Isn’t that ultimately the point? Getting outs on weak contact? Especially given how aggressively Hicks has been managed by the Cardinals, you could easily see his debut as impressive.
It is impressive, for Hicks to go straight from High-A to important innings in the bigs. He’s 21 years old. There’s so much remaining room for growth. In part, I’ve talked about strikeouts because it seems like that should be the greatest, most obvious consequence of extreme velocity. But in part, I’ve talked about strikeouts because, at some point, you need to get strikeouts. Either that, or you need to have pinpoint command. Hicks doesn’t seem to have pinpoint command, nor does he even seem to generate particularly weak contact. By regular wOBA allowed, Hicks ranks in the 62nd percentile among relievers. But by expected wOBA allowed, he’s in the 16th. By average exit velocity, he’s in the 24th. Hicks can use double plays to get out of some jams, but this is going to catch up to him. That is, unless he gets better.
Josh Hader is the best reliever in either league. The progress began last August. Through August 12, Hader threw just 61% strikes. After that, he threw 70% strikes. This year, he’s at 68% strikes, with a much-improved slider. Over the span of a week in the middle of August, Hader started to figure it out. It happened on the fly, and he hasn’t looked back. Hader came up as a thrower. Less than a year later, he’s perfect. He’s making the most of the talent he has.
I wouldn’t say that Hicks is there yet. Hicks is remarkable for the fact that he throws so fast, and for the fact that he strikes so few hitters out. Pitching is hard, and the hitters are outstanding. When you see a clip of Hicks throwing 105, you’re not seeing the most unhittable pitcher in baseball. What you’re seeing is someone who could become the most unhittable pitcher in baseball. What the velocity gives Hicks is a foundation. Dominant upside, should he ever improve a second pitch. Major-league batters can time any fastball, if all they have to think about is the fastball. If they also have to think about something else — that’s where the speed becomes deadly.
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.
Isn’t this “paradox” similar to the case of Nathan Eovaldi? High velocity for career but does not seem to get corresponding strikeout % ?
Yep. Just more extreme, and for a reliever instead of a starter
I seem to recall Billy Koch still threw 100 when he was out of the majors. Simply had little movement. For a guy who threw in 3-figures his whole career to have a career rate of only a 7.9K rate per 9 IP goes against everything we’ve been taught about velocity.
Spin rate sucked. Easy to hit straight fastball
Easier*. Nothing in the big leagues is easy.
Except first base.
Tell him, Wash
“This year, four-seamers at 95 or harder have allowed a contact rate of 76%. ”
I mean, look at this admittedly small sample:
http://m.mlb.com/statcast/leaderboard#pitch-velo,r,2017
50 fastest pitches,
4 called strikes
9 swinging strikes
28 fouls or balls in play
That’s a contact % on swinging strikes of about 75%, (28 of 37) which is really close to the 2017 league average contact rate, and really close to the number cited above. So the argument should be simple – the guys who have elite velocity and put up big strikeout numbers are doing so by virtue of something other than merely the velocity (I am assuming the answer is: secondary pitches as pointed out in the article), because major leaguers don’t struggle with velocity any more than they do with the average pitch.
Except you are ignoring his 2.00 ERA, and his weak contact rate. Plus when he has been used it has been in tough situations, where double play grounders are ideal. So while his low strikeout rate isn’t ideal, the Card’s bull pen has been their weak link, so for now he is needed, plus the last thing the Red Birds need is another starter with Reyes on the way next week, numerous AAA guys already blocked, and their current starting staff young and excelling.
Nice article Jeff. I’m biased as a Cardinal fan, but I think Hicks and his extreme velocity/K-rate disparity is one of the most interesting stories of the season.
Personally I think that coaching might be playing a role. He gets into a lot of 2 strike counts and continues to throw fastballs until the ball is put in play rather than trying to get the hitter to wave at a slider. His slider is very good and should be a weapon for him long term. I just think the coaches recognize he’s extremely raw and trying to learn a lot all at once, so they tell him to not worry about Ks and just focus on throwing the ball in the zone. It’s also possible that his slider just doesn’t tunnel well with his sinker, which would make it easier for hitters to avoid chasing it and could be more of a long term threat to his career. I’m not sure how to give about analyzing that, but I’d be interested to read about it.
Well written article.
It seems kind of self-evident that Hicks should be developing in the minors, probably AA right now, and as a starter, so he can cultivate both his overall command and a secondary pitch — maybe even a third one.
The constant daily pressure at the MLB bullpen level to “just get the next guy out” will clearly inhibit his ability to develop any other offerings, and what’s worse it will pressure the 21-year-old to throw with absolute max effort over and over and over. Poor combo for pitcher development in every way.
Except he isn’t a maximum effort guy, plus he has been handled with kid gloves so far. I too agree he should be in as honing his craft but currently he is needed at the Big League level. He may be a reliever for awhile, however due to the Red Birds current glut of great arms in the starting rotation. Reyes returns next week and has been starting. So either the Cards go with a 6 man rotation or trade one of the starters, most likely Wacha, for a much needed left handed slugger. The problem there is the rise of Tyler O’Neill makes adding an outfielder less likely. That also means Jose Martinez has to stay at first. Carpenter starts tonight at second, but his defense there is less than ideal, as 3rd base is his best position, which forces Gyorko to the bench and robs the Cards not only of his bat, but especially his glove. You get the picture, multiple conundrums. The bull pen is the weak link, which at least for now means Hicks stays where he is with his 105 mile sinker and 2.00 ERA.
The Cardinals almost never viewed him as a starter, something fangraphs continues to lobby for. His early scouting reports from them, even while starting, was that he was looked at as a future closer. Maybe he should be down their starting still to force development of the secondary offerings, but he’d never make it as a starter.
My suspicion is that batters must be seeing something in his delivery that’s telling them the slider is coming. If they can eliminate the slider and just worry about making contact with the sinker (which is meant to be hit weakly, after all), then they can at least avoid striking out.
So, to increase his whiff rate, it seems that he needs to either disguise the slider better (and throw it for strikes), or he needs to learn the four-seam grip and pitch higher in the zone. Alternating between the sinker and the four-seamer, with that kind of velocity, could be really scary for hitters expecting to dig in and knock the sinker around.
Kid’s undeniably fun to watch though. He’s still so raw, the sky’s the limit.
Agreed with you especially on using a 4-seamer. Have to think he could touch 106 with it in addition to giving him another movement band to work with.
Some pitchers just have natural sink (low spin) to their fastball regardless of grip. If he starts throwing a 4-seam it could be just an uneffective Evoladi 4-seam fastball that doesn’t get a lot of wiffs or groundballs.
Maybe he just doesn’t have a great feel for pitching? I think that is what you see when ability > results. Everyone always like to dream that things are a mechanical fix away or someone else’s fault, but it rarely is… he is also young and samples are small, so I don’t know anything. If pitching were as easy as addressing issues at need then everyone would do it at an elite level.
I am not sure there is so much room for growth here. How far away is an injury following a velo spike like this? The velo shouldn’t climb and should reverse course you’d think. At some point he will learn more about pitching, but the stuff will likely be reduced so I don’t know what you call that. At some point he will probably take something off in the name of strikes and movement… but then he won’t be in the headlines either. In any case, I am very glad that current Jordan Hicks exists for this analysis.
The article mentions it, but he’s a 21 year old who hasn’t pitched above A+ before 2018. On a normal development path, he’d be getting at least 100 IP as a starter with significantly less pressure to focus on getting outs, allowing him to work on another pitch. I think his incredibly lucky start will give him a long leash, so when the batted balls start landing and his ERA rises, Matheny will still think he’s an elite guy, when right now, he just shouldn’t be in the majors. It’s absurd that a 4 IP start, right before ST ended, was enough to ruin Hick’s development.
Agreed, on all counts, Mr. Douglas.
Well all but one, one that was implied. For me, Matheny gets none of the blame on this. This is a roster decision blunder, and therefore lands squarely on Mozeliak’s desk.
Matheny and Maddux are working with a pitcher they should never ever have been given in the first place.
Over his final two months of 2017, as a starting pitcher Hicks had a better than 4-1 K/BB, a better than 4-1 groundout/flyout, allowed zero homers, and needed just 12.8 pitches per inning. That’s a goddamn potential ace starter, not a (bleeping) relief pitcher.
Hi Hicks is a reliever out of necessity. With Reyes, Flaherty, Mikolas,Wacha,Martinez, and Weaver ahead of Hicks he has no path to the Bigs, except as a reliever where the Cards are weak. So if his talents are to utilized he is a reliever for now.
I agree, N-HOJP, that Hicks’ development would be helped by a return to the minors. However, I don’t think that 4:1 K:BB ratio in the last 2 months of 2017 says so much about his abilities as a starter vs. reliever as it does his abilities against hitters in A-ball vs. hitters in the majors.
There’s nothing wrong with this path. He could end up being a great reliever like rosenthal or he could go back and develop as a starter in the minors.
What can be wrong about getting some big league experience before he goes back. If he never goes back, it’s because he is good enough to be on roster
I’m a believer that pitchers only have so many pitches in their arm. I’m glad he’s up in the Show so we can watch
He was never looked at as a starter by the Cardinal organization. At least, from the scouting reports they shared with fans.
Waitasecond, he’s throwing that gas on a sinker?! I thought that pretty much any pitch that hit triple digits was a 4-seam fastball, and it’s nuts to think he’s getting that kind of velocity on a sinker. Are there are other triple-digit sinkers out there, or is that it?
I saw the headline about him throwing 105, and thought, “huh, that’s impressive” but the fact that it isn’t a 4-seam fastball is really mindblowing.
Blake Treinen is probably one of the guys I would find highlights of if 98+ power sinkers are your thing.
Thor, Zach Britton, and Matt Bush are three more who can hit 100 with their sinker.
That’s a bold statement saying Hader is the best reliever in baseball. No doubt, he has been the best this year, but Fangraphs’ projections have him with the 62nd best projection for FIP (starters and relievers). Projections still have guys like Kimbrel and Chapman as far better relievers.
I don’t really think it’s that bold of a statement. Sure, other relievers have a longer track record so they have better projections, but at this moment, based on what we know has actually happened, Hader has been the best reliever in baseball.
(By FIP based WAR at least. If you prefer WPA or RA9-WAR then the best reliever in baseball as of this moment is Josh’s teammate Jeremy Jeffress.)
When are we going to see a Brewers article? We’re 30% through the season and they are still playing .600 ball.
Pet theory: By the time you are the “best” reliever someone else is already emerging to take that mantle. Relievers [mostly] have short peaks and the churn rate is extreme around the league. Factor in how many failed SP join the pool of RP every year and the competition for best RP is intense. By the time there is enough data for the projections to catch up to your status as “best” there’s likely another ascendant RP putting up better numbers in the here and now.
I kinda see your point, but even Mike Trout doesn’t have the best numbers always, but that doesn’t keep people from comfortably calling him the best. While I wouldn’t put any one reliever in that category, I feel pretty comfortable leaving the triumvirate of Chapman/Kimbrel/Jansen as the top relievers (and I wouldn’t argue too much about throwing Miller in, too).
Those guys have been elite for an unusually long time for relievers, and I would guess that at least one of them will shortly churn out, and there will be new blood at the very top of the reliever hierarchy. It very well may be Hader. I’d say he has as good a chance as anyone. But I’m not calling him the best reliever anymore than I’d call Mookie Betts the best outfielder.
Well said TKDC: the one difference between Trout and the top tier of relievers is how he is probably a whole standard deviation better than anyone in WAR/600 since he’s entered the league whereas I can’t imagine any of the top tier relievers has quite separated himself to that degree from the rest of the reliever population. In a given season Donaldson/Altuve/Harper/Betts have put up Trout numbers but their career rates aren’t at that level. There is an upper echelon of great relievers to me and it’s probably a pretty fluid group of 5-10 guys that all put up more similar values per inning. Trout is a tier unto himself until someone starts outproducing him on a rate basis for multiple seasons.
Remember Steve Dalkowski. Almost certainly able to hurl a 100mph fastball.
Never went further than AAA.
I don’t want to over-analyze this, but I think all hard-throwing pitchers would benefit from a secondary pitch that (a) changes the eye level and (b) separates the velocity. Major-league hitters seem to be able to deal with any speed at all, as long as they know what’s coming at them.
I would pay to see an experiment with hitters against a gun that fires 115 mph.
Several former NPB players have done so on TV in Japan. Takeshi Yamazaki’s try against a 300km/h pitching machine is well documented, though obviously unsuccessful. Norihiro Komada successfully put the third 250km/h pitch he saw into play after missing the first two, though he had no luck against a 290km/h pitch either.