Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat – 11/19/20
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2:01 |
: I’m probably going to keep it short-ish and sweet-ish today, because I don’t anticipate there being a ton to talk about
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2:02 |
: Unless you have some good recipes to share, or games to talk about.
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2:02 |
: Let’s kick things off with non-tender/trade type stuff
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2:02 |
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2:03 |
: I don’t know if Bryant will get non-tendered, but I don’t think it will be a complete shock if it happens. He probably shouldn’t be — 20 million dollars isn’t out of the question for someone of his skill level
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2:04 |
: But the worries are kind of there
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2:05 |
: If he signs for his 18.6mm arb estimate, it’s hard to see a team seeing much surplus value there. Maybe two FV 45 prospects, that kind of range? He’s a big name, but there are serious questions about his being able to sustain his previous performance level and he’s only a year from free agency anyway
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2:05 |
: Brandon Marsh, David Fletcher, Patrick Sandoval, and Luis Rengifo for Blake Snell. Who says no?
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2:05 |
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2:07 |
: They’re in a constant roster crunch as it is, so adding 4 players who need to be on the 40-man seems like a weird move for them
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2:07 |
: I guess net 3, but still
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2:07 |
: And meanwhile, the Angels probably shouldn’t be trading bulk for a single pitcher, they are kind of thin as it is
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2:08 |
: More Snell stuff:
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2:08 |
: Should the Yankees non-tender Gary Sanchez?
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2:08 |
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2:08 |
: Love the juxtaposition here
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2:09 |
: As Craig Edwards wrote about, Sanchez doesn’t have much trade value
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2:09 |
: Not to the point where I think he’ll get non-tendered, but he’s not a valuable chip at the moment
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2:09 |
: Snell is, so I don’t really see this happening
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2:10 |
: Is Atlanta going to let Austin Riley run with 3B this year or put a vet in front of him? I’m kind of encouraged by the plate discipline changes he made last year.
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2:11 |
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2:11 |
: I think you can feel fine projecting him for more power, and probably a better BABIP
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2:13 |
: I don’t have a great feel for his defense at third, but if you think he’s abysmal, that’s not great
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2:13 |
: If you think he’s average, as OAA does, much more encouraging
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2:13 |
: What comp do you put on Riley? Does Casty with more power work?
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2:14 |
: I’m not really a comparison guy, I just feel like I make bad ones too often
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2:14 |
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2:14 |
: If your team needs a catcher, would you prefer to sign Yadier Molina to a 1-year, 10MM deal, Brian McCann for a 2-year, 30MM deal, or JT Realmuto for a 5-year, 95MM deal?
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2:14 |
: I think I’d go Realmuto, then Yadi, then McCann
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2:14 |
: 2/30 for McCann is a LOT
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2:15 |
: And to be clear, I thikn we’re talking about James McCann here, right?
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2:15 |
: Suppose the Blue Jays sign Springer, the Yankees bring back LeMahieu, the Red Sox sign Bauer, and the Rays trade away Snell. How does the AL East shake out next year?
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2:15 |
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2:16 |
: Assuming no setbacks, is Clevinger ready for OD 2022?
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2:16 |
: That’s my guess — maybe a start or two later than that
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2:16 |
: Are the Royals going to give Franchy a real shot to see what he can do this year (assuming health)?
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2:16 |
: Would have felt better about this before they just signed Michael A Taylor
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2:17 |
: Do you think the Reds’ experience with Akiyama’s (lack of) offense this year will make them reluctant to seriously consider Kim as a SS option, on the grounds that stats from Asia aren’t a great indication of MLB success?
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2:18 |
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2:18 |
: Along with being active in free agency, do you think it would be a good idea for the Mets to trade for a bad 1 yr contract (Thinking like an Ian Desmond, Avi Garcia, Eduardo Escobar, etc.) but also acquiring a promising young player in the deal? Essentially “buying a prospect.” I think their financial situation gives them unique opportunities in this market as a lot of teams seem to be looking to shed underwater contracts.
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2:19 |
: If it’s on offer yes, but I haven’t really heard of a lot of teams champing at the bit to do this. That discussion would happen quietly most likely, but yeah, if they can do it, they should definitely be open to it.
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2:19 |
: If you were Mike Rizzo, assuming Bryant is tendered, what do you trade to get him?
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2:19 |
: If you’re the Nats, would you rather pay blood & treasure for Bryant, or mere dollars for a big (but older) FA bat?
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2:20 |
: I’ll level with you — I don’t know much about the Nats’ minor league system. I’d part with two back-of-the-top-10 prospects in their system assuming it looks roughly like Eric has it — top-heavy with Kieboom without much depth
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2:21 |
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2:21 |
: They can’t demand more prospect value than a rough estimate would find “fair” in exchange for the privilege of adding a superstar b/c I don’t really consider Bryant a lock All Star type anymore
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2:22 |
: What kind of player does Sung Bum Na project as in MLB? Sounds like there’s plus power, but can we expect any OBP, defense and/or stolen bases?
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2:23 |
: We’ll certainly have a writeup out about this sometime soon, so keep your eyes peeled. I will definitely not be doing it because I couldn’t tell you enough about him, aside from the fact that he has a lot of pop and I like the Dino’s jerseys
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2:23 |
: ‘Tis the season for fictional trade proposals. Correa for Hader. Who says no? Thanks!
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2:24 |
: Ooh, I think this is kind of close, but that the Brewers would say no
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2:24 |
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2:25 |
: Especially given the fact that they’d like to keep Hiura at second; seems like a bit of a waste to fill up shortstop then and have nowhere to put Urias or Arcia
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2:25 |
: Not that they’re both necessarily world beaters, but teams like the Brewers need to be maximally efficient with their roster given ownership’s payroll dictates
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2:25 |
: Helpful tip for trade proposals: when the player is a non-tender candidate, don’t try to build a package around them for Blake Snell.
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2:26 |
: Posting this comment only in hopes that you’ll tell me some delicious recipes you’ve recently made
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2:26 |
: What’s gotten into the royals? Any other teams going to start before Wednesday?
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2:26 |
: I doubt it, but I’m happy we at least have something to talk about
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2:26 |
: And I really do like the Minor signing
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2:26 |
: You can never have enough pitching
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2:27 |
: Who is the single HOF candidate where your opinion of his candidacy most diverges from the conventional wisdom?
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2:27 |
: For me, Gary Sheffield should be a no-doubt lock
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2:27 |
: I’m not someone who delves deeply into HOF stuff
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2:27 |
: But Sheffield’s bat waggle just SCREAMS baseball to me. I spent my entire youth trying to replicate it
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2:28 |
: That feeling of terror he inspired just feels to me like it should be in the Hall
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2:28 |
: Do you think the Yankees should try to make a deal with LAD for Ruiz or SD for Mejia?
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2:28 |
: I think they should either sign Realmuto or try to work with Sanchez
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2:29 |
: He still has sky high potential
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2:29 |
: Dan Straily: Legitimate MLB pitcher in 2021?
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2:29 |
: Thoughts on Raul Alcantara from the KBO?
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2:30 |
: I’m more in on Alcantara than Straily
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2:30 |
: Not because I have some secret information on either, or anything like that
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2:30 |
: They were both awesome in 2020
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2:30 |
: But Alcantara is four years younger, and he didn’t have Straily’s disastrous 2019
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2:31 |
: How about McCann to the Yankees?
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2:31 |
: Yeah I suppose that would work for me as well
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2:31 |
: Re: McCann: 30MM is perhaps high, but he also has the 2nd highest wRC+ of any catcher over the last two years with at least 500 PAs, beating out, among others JT Realmuto. Not sold on his offense?
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2:33 |
: Yeah, I’m not completely sold on the bat — and to be clear, projection systems really aren’t either. Steamer projects him for an 80 wRC+ next year, and maybe that’s too low, but he hit for a TON of power this year without any clear indication that he’s hitting the ball harder or barreling it up more or anything like that
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2:34 |
: I’m higher on him than Steamer, but still think that he’s going to be something approaching an average catcher offensively, particulalry when handling an everyday workload
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2:34 |
: What do you think about the Rays potentially pursuing Rich Hill?
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2:35 |
: Seems reasonable, they will need to add average-or-better pitching depth and he fits the bill
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2:35 |
: I wouldn’t count on a full season out of him, which complicates things, but look, I love Rich Hill, I’m super into it
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2:35 |
: Thoughts on the MLB draft league that MLB just announced?
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2:35 |
: Haven’t read enough about it yet to have a good informed take
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2:36 |
: I’ll tell you that I’m going to be going in skeptical, because minor league baseball was a formative part of my youth, but I hope that this can somewhat replace that in communities losing minor league affiliates
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2:36 |
: Could you see the A’s dangling Bassit or Montas in a trade to try to acquire a 2B/SS? Both are getting more expensive for OAK and market demand for SP seems to be high. OAK MIF depth is very thin at the moment and Lemahieu, Semien, Simmons, etc. figure to be out of their spending range
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2:37 |
: For sure! If I were them I’d try to trade Montas, because (perhaps foolishly) I think he’s better-regarded but also worse
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2:39 |
: But those are valuable pieces, and I think they could withstand the loss of one or the other if it made them a lot better on offense/defense
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2:39 |
: Starting pitching is Oakland’s biggest weakness. I don’t see them trading Montas
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2:39 |
: I don’t agree that it’s their biggest weakness
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2:39 |
: I think they have essentially a number 2 and four number 3’s
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2:40 |
: They need more than that, but I think the middle infield is now their biggest weakness
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2:40 |
: Whats the biggest surprise non tender on Wednesday?
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2:41 |
: I’ll stick to my Bryant guns, but I don’t really believe they’ll do it anymore. I thought Theo going out on that note would have made more sense. I give it a 15% chance
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2:41 |
Our breakfasts of choice: https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1018354-pumpkin-maple-muffins https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2019/03/thick-and-fluffy-pancakes…. Stovetop mac and cheese (definitely add some acid, whether that’s jalapenos or hot sauce, to cut through the cheese) https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/10/the-food-labs-ultra-gooey-… The most amazing soft, buttery Parker house rolls: https://www.kingarthurbaking.com/recipes/parker-house-rolls-recipe We’ve tried a bunch of chili recipes, this is our go to. No issues with burn warnings. https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1019159-pressure-cooker-classic-be… Great pantry meal pasta option. Use good ingredients, especially olive oil, on simple recipes. https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1778-penne-with-roasted-cherry-tom… |
2:41 |
: Excellent!
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2:42 |
: We’ve made those pumpkin maple muffins, or something very similar, and they were excellent
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2:42 |
: Javier Baez and JD Martinez had terrible years, which they attributed at least in part to their difficulty adjusting to not being able to make as extensive a use of video replay as in the past. How do you see 2021 playing out for them?
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2:43 |
: I think they’ll both be able to adjust to it, but I can totally buy that the switch from one method to another can be jarring
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2:43 |
: Though I do think a good deal of that is just mindset and comfort
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2:44 |
: So playin a season without it probably involved growing pains
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2:44 |
: How do the Yanks fill out the rotoation?
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2:45 |
: I kind of think they’ll resign Tanaka?
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2:45 |
: Lot of organizational comfort there
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2:46 |
: And then maybe do some poking around at reclamation projects
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2:46 |
: Minimalist recipe: bake a sweet potato, broccoli, red pepper in the oven until potato is to your liking. Marinade pressed tofu in teriyaki sauce, fry over medium heat until all sides are cooked. Serve over rice. The point isn’t to have exotic flavors, but a cheap, simple, healthy meal in a flash.
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2:47 |
: I’m eating some tofu for lunch as we speak!
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2:47 |
: This is the kind of recipe my wife and I make most frequently: cook some veggies and some protein, either as a one-sheet-pan meal or one in the oven one on the stove
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2:47 |
: I doubt he’d be traded and don’t want him to be traded, but for how many teams would Dom Smith likely be an upgrade at 1B?
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2:47 |
: A lot!
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2:47 |
: Hm, let’s be more specific
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2:49 |
: Roughly half
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2:49 |
: I told a buddy a few days back that GMDM saying he wanted a SP and a middle of the order bat meant going down the free agent lists until he reached guys that no other teams would compete for. They then signed Minor and Taylor. Same old Royals, or sneaky good signs?
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2:50 |
: I like the Minor signing, because the starting pitching market sets up such that unless you’re getting Bauer, Minor provides a roughly equivalent level of production to the next tier
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2:50 |
: Now, if Taylor is their middle of the order bat, that’s a problem
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2:50 |
: But given that he signed for $1.75 million with $1 million in incentives, I don’t think that’s the case
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2:51 |
: Speaking of tofu: who is the player comparison? An under appreciated and multi versatile staple that the casual fan stubbornly says sucks?
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2:51 |
: I think it’s Kolten Wong, as seen by Cardinals fans
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2:51 |
: does a lot of things,strangely disliked
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2:51 |
: I’d love get into the tofu game because I can’t make my favorite vegetarian Indian dishes since the pandemic because I can’t source some of the ingredients and spices. Favorite recipes?
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2:53 |
: Honestly I never do the tofu cooking, but I asked my wife, and she says we don’t have any particular recipes we always use, just generally marinate it in Asian spices, coat in corn starch, and pan fry
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2:53 |
: More of a cook-by-feel situation there
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2:53 |
: Re: Tanaka: He seems like he could be the new Gardner or Kuroda, where the Yankees just continually bring him back on a one year deal until he gets sick of playing. Or do you foresee a multiyear contract?
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2:53 |
: I could totally see this. Don’t have any info either way though
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2:53 |
: In your opinion will Ji-Man Choi get non tendered?
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2:54 |
: No. Near the line, but I don’ see it
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2:54 |
: If Realmuto/Springer demand can be had for same contract, say 5/$125. Which one do mets sign? Neither? Both?
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2:54 |
: I think Realmuto, but I don’t know whether it’s just a subconscious bias I have that the Mets have learned their lesson from playing guys who can’t quite play center in center
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2:55 |
: For Kiermaiers beautiful eyes: Buffalo tofu wrap. Marinate the pressed tofu in Buffalo sauce, cut into pieces and bake on 425 for 30-45 min, cover any leafy greens you’d like and drench in vegan ranch dressing, add tofu, place in wrap, enjoy!
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2:55 |
: tofu? why not just eat real meat!
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2:55 |
: It’s nice to switch things up and have a lot of different meals
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2:55 |
: Tofu is also something you can keep in the fridge and make with less planning than, say, chicken
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2:55 |
: And cooks pretty quickly
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2:57 |
: One thing I like doing is buying a bag of Rotisserie chicken from Costco, then shredding it and freezing it in individual Ziploc bags
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2:57 |
: Which makes for a good cheap portion-reasonable way to make chicken, but does require thawing overnight
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2:57 |
: I’ve got chili on the go in the slow cooker, I’ll let you know how it goes next week
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2:57 |
: Yes more chili recipes always welcome
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2:57 |
: When GMDM got to KC, he said he wanted to get a “high OBP middle of the order bat” and subsequently traded for Mike Jacobs. Just sayin’. Wouldn’t be surprised if he thinks Taylor IS that guy. I mean, you know he’s not going to sign Ozuna.
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2:58 |
: Taylor has 132 PA in the 2-5 spots in the lineup out of his career 1804 PA
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2:58 |
: Jacobs’ most common spot was 4th, second-most-common was 5th
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2:58 |
: It’s not the same thing
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2:58 |
: Is Michael A. Taylor the regular CF in KC? He did fairly well the one year the Nats gave him playing time.
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2:59 |
: I could see that. It seems cheap for a guy who has been totally acceptable when he’s needed to fill in
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2:59 |
: It’s a glove-first profile, but that’s maybe at its best in cavernous KC
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2:59 |
: What’s the MLB equivalent of what happened with the Broncos yesterday? It’s Chico, right?
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3:00 |
: Definitely Chico
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3:00 |
: I’m a bit confused by your response to the Realmuto/Springer question- are you saying that you think the Mets have learned their lesson, and that Springer should not be playing CF? Or that they have not learned their lesson, and will keep playing guys like Nimmo there?
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3:00 |
: The first
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3:00 |
: Not that he shouldn’t be right now
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3:00 |
: But that if you sign him for five years, you’re planning on him being a corner guy for a decent chunk of it
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3:00 |
: But they’re overloaded on corner guys as it is
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3:01 |
: What’s wrong with signing Springer to play CF for 2-3 years and then getting a new CF to replace him then?
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3:01 |
: Mainly just that I think it’s more like 0-1 years
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3:01 |
: When should we expect to hear about whether 2021 will be 162 games and a regular schedule/opponents?
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3:01 |
: I have absolutely no clue
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3:02 |
: What payroll level do you think the league would like the Cubs to have before allowing positive press again?
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3:02 |
: I don’t really know what this means but allowing positive press? Huh? I think the league would love the Cubs to keep spending a ton and competing for the division
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3:03 |
: They’re a team in a big city with a lot of fun players, and I’m sure MLB would vastly prefer the stories coming out of there to be about the players rather than the front office saying they can’t sign relievers or whatever. The best Cubs story of the 2010s is Javy Baez’s tagging, imo
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3:03 |
: (ex the obvious one)
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3:03 |
: Did you know Hunter Pence streams his Magic gameplay on Twitch? Think I remember reading you like that game
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3:04 |
: I did indeed know that!
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3:04 |
: A friend of mine here invited him (via Twitter, so only kind of I suppose) to his local game
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3:04 |
: He did not reply, unsurprisingly
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3:04 |
: If you slice medium tofu then freeze it when you thaw it literally all of the water squeezes out and it turns into a sponge that soaks up all of the sauce.
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3:05 |
: Ben, how can a voter justify voting for Andruw Jones – known domestic abuser, but not vote for Curt Schilling – known Nazi. How does a voter compare and contrast offenses across the board from a number of these players and appropriately weigh who was worse than others? I’m not celebrating or in favor of either of them being enshrined and given a platform – but it bothers me how we look aside some horrid acts but not others.
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3:06 |
: This is obviously a difficult topic to address, and I will say that I’m not completely sure what I’d do if I were a vote.
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3:06 |
: voter*
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3:06 |
: One of the trickiest things about the Hall, to me, is how to weigh on-field accomplishments against other things that may or may not be disqualifying
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3:07 |
: I truly don’t know where I’d come down on each individual case for the Hall this year, and I also don’t know how I feel about considering off-field things, period, in it
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3:07 |
: It’s obviously very difficult to weigh the various ways people can be terrible against each other
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3:08 |
: and then weigh THAT against baseball
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3:08 |
: When will we get the word on the new minor-league alignment for 2021?
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3:08 |
: No official word but I’d guess next week at the latest? The announcements are coming in fast and furious
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3:08 |
: Should I expect a white guy in his 30s from an Ivy league school and some family money to be the next GM of the Cubs?
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3:09 |
: That’s probably your best bet! I guess of those 5 things (white, guy, 30s, Ivy Leaguer, family money)
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3:09 |
: I think that family money is the one that is least likely, followed by 30s, and then Ivy Leaguer
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3:10 |
: How long before the Texas Rangers are the all-time postseason wins leader in their own stadium?
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3:10 |
: So, I think the Dodgers won 11 games there
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3:11 |
: If you win the DS and lose the CS, you’ll play somewhere between 3 and 7 home games
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3:12 |
: Peg it at 5, figure you win 50%-ish, that means you’ll need 4-5 playoff runs to do it
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3:12 |
: You’re around 60% to make the WS if you play in 4 playoffs and it’s all coin flips, so let’s say 4 playoff runs
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3:13 |
: I dunno — 12 years?
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3:13 |
: Will the Tigers NT Niko Goodrum?
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3:13 |
: Nah, is he even being discussed as an optoin?
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3:13 |
: I didn’t realize he was eligible even
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3:14 |
: Yeah looks like he’s ARB1 this year, but no, I don’t think he’ll get non-tendered
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3:14 |
: What kind of contract does Yoennis Cespedes get?
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3:15 |
: 1/3 with huge performance bonuses or something? Truly no clue, he’s a real wild card
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3:15 |
: The Rangers fell off a cliff immediately after Odor punched Bautista for doing a fun and cool thing it is fate.
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3:15 |
: Can’t really argue with that
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3:15 |
: Will the Rays really NT Jose Alvarado? Saw on MLBTR he’s a candidate…Averaged 98 MPH as a LHRP!
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3:16 |
: I do not think they will, because he’s only Arb1 and didn’t pitch much this year
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3:16 |
: So the cost just won’t be very high
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3:16 |
: Which is more surprising: that Mike Mussina never won a WS, or Wes Welker never won a SB?
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3:16 |
: Wow, Wes Welker for me for sure1
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3:16 |
: !*
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3:16 |
: Like I half thought you somehow had that wrong. He was on a bunch of good teams
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3:17 |
: What does your typical day / week as a writer look like (total hours, time spent writing vs. editing vs. stat / data searching, etc.)? Do you have a sense of how that varies among the FG staff?
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3:17 |
: Hey Meg!
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3:18 |
: (presumably not actually editor Meg, but who knows!)
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3:19 |
: I’m not really sure how to apportion time correctly, but I generally start working around 7 a.m., finish around 6 p.m., but spend a non-negligible amount of the time in between going for a walk, or working out, or playing a game to clear my head, or stuff like that. it’s definitely nothing near a solid 11 hours
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3:19 |
: Then there’s the fact that Fridays are lighter and Sundays heavier than a normal job
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3:19 |
: But the vast majority of time is searching for article ideas
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3:20 |
: I get the sense that I spend the least time actually writing per article that anyone here does, though I’m not 100% ont hat
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3:20 |
: Will Ohtani pitch in 21? Will Ohtani pitch well in 21?
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3:20 |
: I’m just gonna say no to both.
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3:21 |
: On that note, I’m going to call it a day. Sorry I couldn’t get to more of your questions, as this chat ended up being a lot busier than I expected, but I have a project I’m working on that I just got a great brainstorm for, and I want to strike while the iron is hot. I’ll be back next week so that we can finally look at who was non-tendered instead of guessing who will be non-tendered
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3:22 |
: Have a great day, everyone, and as always, let me know what chili recipes you like, beans and all.
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Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Twitter @_Ben_Clemens.
It is indeed unfortunate that the current social landscape is systematically against certain people solely based on these individuals’ demographic markers. Seriously, in 2020, you’d think that being angry/hateful at a whole group of people, because of what, their race and gender? – You’d think that wouldn’t exist. I mean, you’re supposed to assess each individual or something, right? Take the chatter above, complaining the next GM will probably be a white guy, I mean the nerve, right? To want to disqualify someone from a job, or at the very least put him/her/they/them/ze/zir at the bottom of the pecking order, because of some random demographic data, having nothing to do with competence, intelligence, or fit…I just can’t even! Well, at least the fangraphs crowd gets it. At least their characters are comprised of sufficient morality & critical thinking skills to avoid becoming groupthink ideologues. Thank goodness.
ZMP – Theo Epstein himself said that he has not done a good job surrounding himself with a diverse group of people to challenge his thinking and that many people that he hired looked like him and had very similar backgrounds. That doesn’t mean that the people he hired were not qualified for the job, but it means that he was a less effective leader and decision maker because he didn’t get a diverse set of viewpoints to consider when making decisions. There are multiple people that are qualified for these jobs, and the majority of them may be white males based on past opportunities that were given (whether done through biases or otherwise). However, that does not mean that they will be the right person for the job if they cannot bring a diverse viewpoint to the table. Regardless of how you feel about the current racial landscape, there is research that shows that having a diverse organization leads to more innovation (ex. https://www.forbes.com/sites/annapowers/2018/06/27/a-study-finds-that-diverse-companies-produce-19-more-revenue/?sh=13aa45a8506f). It is in the best interest of an organization to seek out diversity.