Bourn vs. Papelbon: a Pitcher Pace Case Study

FanGraphs keeps track of pitcher Pace, which you already knew. Here’s a definition of what pitcher Pace is, in case you need to brush up. The data comes from PITCHf/x timestamps, and while Pace doesn’t have any meaningful correlation with wins and losses — that is, it doesn’t make you better to speed up or slow down — it does have a meaningful correlation with what we might call “watchability”. While we’re all ultimately in it for the baseball, it’s a lot more fun to watch a game with a fast tempo than a game with a slower tempo. A game with a fast tempo makes the baseball more concentrated. Somebody just signed Miguel Batista the other day, and I’m not interested in looking up who, but that was a bad move as far as watchability is concerned. Batista, like other slow pitchers, can be dreadful to watch.

Pace is interesting, because it describes part of the viewing experience. So Pace can be fun to play around with. In late September, I decided to look at opposite extremes. What Pace tell us is that Mark Buehrle is the fastest-working pitcher, and Carlos Pena is the slowest-working hitter, because Pena has a whole routine he gets into. I was curious to see what the Pace would be in their head-to-head matchups. The results basically split the middle between Buehrle’s Pace and Pena’s Pace. Buehrle made Pena speed up, but Pena also made Buehrle slow down. Science!

But that’s not the only case study worth examining. According to PITCHf/x data between 2008 and 2012, Jonathan Papelbon has been baseball’s slowest-working pitcher. Meanwhile, Michael Bourn has been baseball’s fastest-working hitter. We can come up with our own reasons for why these might be. Everybody knows that Papelbon takes forever to throw each pitch, because he has to take his deep breath and make his best Orgazmo face. Relievers generally have slower Paces than starters, and Papelbon is an extreme reliever in this regard. As for Bourn, he doesn’t hit for power, and catchers and pitchers might have to “think less” when they’re facing him. That’s just speculation on my part, but I can imagine a link between Pace and power hitting.

So just as it was worth examining matchups between Buehrle and Pena, it’s worth examining matchups between Papelbon and Bourn. There have been just five of them, all within the last two seasons: one in 2011, featuring the Red Sox and Astros, and four in 2012, featuring the Phillies and Braves. This is a very small sample of matchups, but we’re not conducting academic research. Additionally, I didn’t collect official PITCHf/x Pace data, and instead approximated using MLB.tv timestamps. I can’t imagine why this would make a meaningful difference, but it’s a potential source of error.

I watched all the matchups, and I went in assuming that Papelbon would keep working at more or less his own Pace, while Bourn would have to slow down. The Buehrle vs. Pena results made sense to me — Buehrle could give Pena a little more sense of urgency, but Buehrle couldn’t pitch until Pena was back in the box. With Papelbon, he’s the guy in control of his plate appearances. Just because the hitter might be in the box, ready, doesn’t mean Papelbon would have to hurry up. If he wants to take half a minute to compose himself, he can do that, and the hitter can’t stop him.

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Between 2008-2012, Bourn had a Pace of 18.8 seconds. Papelbon, meanwhile, had a Pace of 31.0 seconds. Bourn edged out Chris Getz by four-tenths of a second. Papelbon edged out Rafael Betancourt by three-tenths of a second. Bourn, against Papelbon, has gone 1-for-4 with a single, a walk, and two strikeouts. Papelbon’s approximate Pace over the five plate appearances: 31.3 seconds.

The data comes with error bars, but what it suggests is that, indeed, a fast hitter can’t make a slow pitcher in Papelbon speed up. Not that Bourn didn’t try. Following are a couple .gifs of Michael Bourn waiting for Jonathan Papelbon to do something.

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The dimensions of the .gifs are small because, when I tried to make the .gifs bigger, the file sizes were too large to upload to the website. That’s what FanGraphs thinks of Jonathan Papelbon’s working Pace on the mound. Bourn doesn’t really have a routine — he steps back after each pitch, then he steps back in, maybe waving the bat around a little. He might tap it on the ground or on the plate. Papelbon does have a routine, a very familiar routine, and probably the only thing Jonathan Papelbon is thinking about when he’s on the mound is Jonathan Papelbon. Something tells me he doesn’t care if the hitter is ready, because something tells me he doesn’t notice the hitter.

In order to reach a certain conclusion about Michael Bourn vs. Jonathan Papelbon, we need more matchups between the two players. In order to reach a certain conclusion about fast hitters vs. slow pitchers, we need to analyze a lot more matchups between a lot more players. But we know more now than we used to know, which is always a noble goal. Jonathan Papelbon: kind of annoying to watch. Unflappably kind of annoying to watch. Whatever works for him, though.





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wilt
13 years ago

Those .gifs are excruciating.

Bip
13 years ago
Reply to  wilt

Really, I found them exciting.

It’s funny how when we’re studying pitcher pace, watching an exceptionally slow pitcher is very interesting. Under normal circumstances, when I want to know what pitch the pitcher is going to throw next, and what the batter will do with it, I would find the same thing to be excruciating.

tylersnotes
13 years ago

i assume being forced to write an article about papelbon’s pace is what counts as ‘community service’ at fangraphs

I Agree Guy
13 years ago

Has he ever thrown a pitch that didn’t violate the league’s rules regarding delay?

juan pierres mustache
13 years ago
Reply to  I Agree Guy

i always thought he should immediately set and throw maybe once every 40 times, because it’d be totally unexpected

Bip
13 years ago

It would probably go over the catcher’s head.

DaveP
13 years ago

Orgazmo face – lol.

That Guy
13 years ago
Reply to  DaveP

The lights are on and stable captain – woohoo! – let’s see some fucking action!!!

That Guy
13 years ago
Reply to  That Guy

oops – forgot to add – Papelbon is essentially the bizzaro Dave the Lighting Guy in that regard.

Jamie
13 years ago

As a fan of the Mets, and someone who went to many games in Seattle towards the end of Batista’s time there, I don’t think that pace is the only reason that signing him would be a bad idea.

Voice of Reason
13 years ago

A’s v. Mariners Season Series (Excluding Two Games Played in Tokyo, Japan)
49:53 Total Time 160 Innings 18.7 Minutes Per Inning

Yankees v. Red Sox Season Series
60:57 Total Time 166 Innings 22.0 Minutes Per Inning

There were eleven more hours of baseball accounting for just six more innings of play!

The Party Bird
13 years ago

Why are the Japanese games excluded? No recorded time?

Voice of Reason
13 years ago
Reply to  The Party Bird

I’m just going under the assumption that there are park factors at work, and the Tokyo Dome is not a usual place where the two teams play…by the way, I decided to be fair to New York and Boston and look at total numbers of batters faced…

A’s/Mariners(excluding Tokyo):
1255 Batters Faced 2 Min 23 Sec Per Batter Faced
Red Sox/Yankees:
1424 Batters Faced 2 Min 33 Sec Per Batter Faced

Evidently, only ten seconds per batter faced difference–but over the course of the year, that accounted for an extra 3 hr 57 min, or approximately 36% of the difference (4 hr out of 11 hr). The other 64% was accounted for by the Red Sox and Yankees bringing more batters to the plate.

Tonyc
13 years ago
Reply to  The Party Bird

To make an even comparison, you should probably take out the nationally televised games. I think that would make that 36% even lower, although still not close to 0.

Shao
13 years ago

This comparison doesn’t make sense to me. You probably should take OBP and runs scored into account. The more people get on base, the longer the game takes. Mariners happened to be one of the poorest teams in offense, if not the only, while NYY and BOS are both elite.

MustBunique
13 years ago

Sorry bud, but Pap is pretty awesome to watch. I feel the exact opposite about Mark Buehrle. I will take watching a guy who is amped up over an edge-living control artist for my entertainment every time. I will even wait a few more seconds, or minutes to be entertained that much more. Has today’s cultural dependence or demand for instant gratification trickled down to the point where it is for certain that a faster game is more fun than a slower game? Personally, I enjoy my time at the ballpark or on my couch watching a game.

snoop LION
13 years ago
Reply to  MustBunique

Relax old man. Obviously its all good if a closer takes his time because normally the games pretty exciting at that point, the slowness maybe even adds to the tension. But for a starter I’d much rather watch a game pitched by Buerhle than most other starters.

MustBunique
13 years ago
Reply to  snoop LION

Ha. OK, I’ll use my walker to question why you would rather watch Buehrle than Strasburg, Kershaw, or any of the other top ten to twenty strikeout pitchers. Regardless of how long they take, I would rather watch a strikeout pitcher or someone that throws hard over Buehrle. I’m not saying being a strikeout pitcher or throwing hard makes them better, but it makes them more entertaining. Their pace doesn’t even enter the equation.

Antonio bananas
13 years ago
Reply to  snoop LION

I like seeing balls in play, so I’m with the contact/artist type philosophy on watchability. Unless I am seeing a historic k performance, it does very little for me.