Cardinals, Red Sox Link up Again in Willson Contreras Trade

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‘Twas the week before Christmas, and all through Fenway, every fan was insistent: “Get a first baseman, today.” Or, well, probably not – why would there be fans at Fenway when there are no games, anyway? Why Christmas week in particular? Why did they construct their sentence awkwardly to suit a rhyme scheme? But forget about how hard it is to open an article – or at least how hard I’ve made it seem with this one. There’s a trade afoot! The Red Sox have acquired first baseman Willson Contreras from the Cardinals in exchange for right-handed starter Hunter Dobbins and righty pitching prospects Yhoiker Fajardo and Blake Aita, as Jeff Passan first reported.

In a free agent market awash in slugging first base/DH types, Contreras flew under the radar this offseason. Kyle Schwarber and Pete Alonso were the top names at the position, and both secured the deals befitting that status. The Red Sox were clearly interested in adding some offense, particularly in the infield, and were linked to both sluggers before they signed elsewhere. But there are more ways to improve your team than on the open market, and a pivot to Contreras soon followed.

If you’re an fan of an AL team who mostly checks in on the NL via the playoff race, you might be a little confused at this point. Aren’t all the Brothers Contreras catchers? Didn’t Willson catch the last pitch of that curse-breaking Cubs World Series win back in 2016? But while the Cardinals faded into the background of the national conversation and entered into a rebuilding phase, Contreras shifted to first base (after some trials and tribulations behind the plate), putting the tools of ignorance away and acquitting himself fairly well at his new defensive home. This year was the first season of his career where he didn’t appear behind the plate; instead, he played 120 games at first base and 15 more at DH.

Contreras has always had the bat to play first base. His career 122 wRC+ would fit right in among the top full-time first basemen of the past five years. In 2025, he posted a 124 mark while also racking up the most plate appearances of his career at age 33. Switching from catcher does wonders for your durability, as it turns out.

In that expanded playing time, Contreras basically did what he’s always done: He tried to hit the snot out of the ball every time he came to the plate. He’s one of the hardest swingers in the majors, and he puts that ferocity to good use by lifting and pulling the ball. That approach comes with its fair share of strikeouts, but Contreras has sneaky good bat control for a guy rotating this ferociously. He struck out 25.2% of the time in 2025, much less than you’d expect if you just watch him swing. He has a solid sense of the strike zone, too, and while he makes a below-average amount of contact, it’s not that far below average. Most major leaguers capable of scalding the ball this frequently come up empty more than he does.

If there’s one concern about Contreras’ offensive fit in Boston, it’s how many line drives he hits. His hardest contact clusters in the line drive/low fly ball area, optimized for distance, whereas Fenway rewards loft, particularly for right-handed hitters. Baseball Savant calculates expected home runs by park, transforming initial batted ball trajectories to each park’s particular conditions and dimensions to approximate what a hitter’s production might look like if he played 100% of his games there. For his career, Contreras’ batted ball mix would produce very few home runs in Fenway, as it turns out, with the Monster turning many into smashed singles or doubles. In fact, only cavernous Kauffman Stadium would be a tougher home run park for him, per this calculation.

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That sounds worse than it is, though, because turning some homers into doubles isn’t the end of the world. It’s also worth considering that players are the products of their environments; put a 600-foot wall 17 feet from third base (all calculations approximate), and many righty batters will naturally start hitting with more loft. ZiPS thinks that the bigger threat to his offensive potential is that old implacable enemy, time:

ZiPS Projection – Willson Contreras
Year BA OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB OPS+ WAR
2026 .254 .350 .443 413 57 105 25 1 17 64 44 117 4 120 2.2
2027 .249 .345 .425 374 50 93 22 1 14 55 39 108 3 114 1.7
2028 .240 .335 .401 334 42 80 19 1 11 46 34 99 3 105 1.1

I asked Dan Szymborski for a three-year projection to match Contreras’ contract. After a slight reworking of his deal in the trade to the Red Sox, he’s due $18 million in ‘26, $17 million in ‘27, and then either a $7.5 million buyout or a club option for $20 million in ‘28. The Cardinals are kicking in $8 million of that, bringing Boston’s commitment down to either two years and $34.5 million or three years and $47 million. The option year is very much up in the air; the median ZiPS projection would probably lead the Sox to decline the option, but it wouldn’t take much of an outperformance to change the math. The computer would offer Contreras $36 million over two years or $44 million over three, basically a match for his real-life contract.

Personally, I value Contreras more highly than that. It’s harder than you’d think to find good offense at first base. Jorge Polanco just got two years and $40 million to mostly play first, and while he’s more versatile than Contreras, I think he’s a worse hitter. Reliable power hitters have been beating a WAR-based estimate of open-market value for years at this point. Contreras might be heading into his age-34 season, and he might not be one of the very best hitters in baseball, but a lot of teams would love to plug in 20 or so homers and a 120ish wRC+ at first.

The Red Sox seem to agree with me, because they surrendered multiple pitching prospects to acquire him. Hunter Dobbins, the headliner, is the kind of depth starter that most teams would seek out to boost the bottom of the rotation. He throws an average fastball about 40% of the time, and the way that his broad mix of secondaries develops will have a lot to say about how his career goes.

Dobbins’ most frequently used secondary is a hard slider that sits somewhere in the middle of the gyro/sweeper spectrum. He can also sweep it at a lower velocity against righties. Continuing down the velocity spectrum, he throws a big two-plane curveball that might be his best strikeout pitch. Against lefties, he mixes in a low-90s splitter that is still a work in progress. It’s occasionally classified as a splinker, which is a lot less fearsome at 90 mph coming from Dobbins than it is at 98 from Paul Skenes. There’s room to dream on the pitch developing into something more devastating, but Dobbins struggled to miss bats in the majors this year, as lefties just weren’t fooled by his offspeed stuff, and he didn’t have much of a backup plan.

Dobbins is rehabbing from a season-ending torn ACL that he suffered in July. It was a freak injury, incurred during a scramble to cover first base, but unfortunately it’s the second time he’s torn the same ACL. If everything goes well in his recovery, he’ll be ready by spring, but there’s certainly some risk there. That risk suits the rebuilding Cardinals just fine, though; they’re hoping to get valuable contributions from Dobbins in future years when they’re contending, and their eyes are squarely set past 2026 at this point. Perhaps the repeated ACL injuries and a past Tommy John surgery point to poor durability in his future, but who knows? Injuries are notoriously tough to predict, and Dobbins looks like a nice depth piece when healthy, with room to improve from there if he can figure out a better option against lefties. He might end up as a multi-inning reliever, and he looks like a pretty good option there, too; he has the kind of fastball that would especially benefit from a few extra ticks on the radar gun.

Fajardo is a teenager who signed with the White Sox in 2024 before getting his sox dyed red in a minor trade last offseason. I got some notes from Brendan Gawlowski to complement my scouting of the stat line, and those notes are interspersed with my commentary below:

Fajardo sits in the low-to-mid 90s with a fastball that doesn’t have a ton of shape; he also has strong feel for spin, currently best exemplified by his slider. He has a nice curveball and an inconsistent changeup. Brendan sees less chance of increasing velocity than you’d expect from someone Fajardo’s age thanks to his already-mature frame, but there’s still space for his curveball and changeup to develop into excellent pitches.

He made 13 starts in Low-A this year and looked excellent there, with a near-30% strikeout rate and a nice clean zero home runs allowed. It’s a low enough level, and his stuff and location are good enough that those numbers won’t necessarily translate upwards. Brendan noted that Fajardo’s straightforward delivery and early-opening hips give opposing hitters a great look at the ball, which limits his deception. He also shows an inconsistent ability to command the ball glove side, an important long-term skill for a spin-reliant starter. Put it all together, and he looks like a future backend starter, with a nice fallback as a reliever given how much increased velocity would flatter his pitch mix.

A sixth-round draft pick in 2024 out of Kennesaw State, Aita throws a dizzying array of pitches, with a big-spinning slider the highlight. He added some offspeed options in 2025 as he made 19 starts between Low-A and High-A. He didn’t miss a ton of bats at either stop, and he pitched most of the year at age 22 to boot, so it’s not like he was super young for the level or anything. Brendan highlighted Aita’s strike-throwing ability, which offset his low velocity and helped him against lefties even as he struggled to find an offspeed pitch with which he’s comfortable.

Aita will likely need some new pitches to keep advancing, and Brendan particularly highlighted the need for a new offspeed option. The Sox clearly thought the same. His current arsenal just doesn’t look good enough to propel him up the minor league ladder; he was so heavily slider-reliant that the pitch played down despite good measurables. You can only throw so many of the same breaking ball, even to A-ball hitters, before they start to see it coming. If you’re looking for an irresponsible upside comparison, imagine Aita rebuilding his entire game around his ability to spin. The rpms on his slider are massive, and he could lean more into a hard cutter as a primary option to get more out of that given his below-average fastball. That’s easier said than done, though; if every pitcher with a good slider and so-so fastball could turn into Corbin Burnes overnight, the league would look very different. More realistically, Aita is a potential up-and-down starter or long reliever. There’s plenty of volatility around that projection, of course, but count him as an interesting lottery ticket, not a likely difference maker.

The Cardinals had the luxury of not being in a hurry to trade Contreras, and I think it paid off for them here. Dobbins can absolutely be a part of the next good St. Louis team, and the organization has had enough difficulty drafting and developing starters in recent years that adding outside help makes a ton of sense to me. Even if Fajardo and Aita don’t pan out – that’s the median outcome for prospects that far from the majors – 100 innings a year of competent pitching from Dobbins sounds mighty nice given how much the Cardinals have struggled to produce that, even with meaningful spending in free agency, during their most recent window of contention.

To be clear, though, I also like this trade for the Red Sox. They sorely needed a reliable first baseman, and reliable infielders in general. Triston Casas, the heir apparent to first base for years at this point, has struggled with injuries and strikeouts for long enough now that they can’t count on a healthy and effective year from him. The outfield is overstocked with great players who don’t really fit on the dirt. There’s probably no room at DH given that outfield glut. Improving the offense runs through the infield, and probably through the corners. There are still plenty of third basemen available — among them Alex Bregman, who opted out of the contract he signed with the Red Sox back in February — and I think they’ll likely sign one of the better ones, but first base was looking like a weak point that couldn’t be addressed through free agency.

Does it hurt to give up a depth starter and some interesting prospects to make this work? Sure. But even Dobbins wasn’t likely to be a huge contributor to the Red Sox in 2026 given how much pitching depth they have – or maybe it’s more accurate to say that they won’t suffer much from losing him thanks to their great supply of Dobbins-esque arms. Fajardo is a high-upside prospect, but he’s incredibly far from the majors. None of the three pitchers alters the trajectory of Boston much at all. Contreras, on the other hand, gives the team a reliable power-hitting regular at a rate that you mostly can’t get those guys for anymore.

By trading for Contreras and Sonny Gray instead of signing equivalent options in free agency, the Red Sox have kept their financial powder dry. At the moment, we estimate their projected 2026 payroll as $16 million lower than it was in 2025. That will change if they re-sign Bregman or get another marquee third baseman, but that’s a lot more doable even within the constraints of the Fenway Sports Group’s budget now that they’ve added two stars for less than $40 million in combined 2026 salary.

Call it a win-win, then; Chaim Bloom and his former team have partnered on another swap that benefits everyone involved. Maybe this wasn’t the present most Bostonians hoped to find under the first base tree this Christmas – Schwarbinos and Polar Bear Petes are very popular this year – but it’s a great gift nonetheless, and the Cardinals got to fill their stockings with a depth starter and minor league pitchers in return.

This article has been updated to include ZiPS projections.





Ben is a writer at FanGraphs. He can be found on Bluesky @benclemens.

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OkraMember since 2016
8 months ago

Think the Red Sox have to trade one of Casas/Duran/Abreu now which i’m sure kills Breslow because he either has to sell low on Casas or come down on his price for Duran/Abreu. Will be interesting to see what they can get.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  Okra

Casas has 3 options, and with the way he looked last year the Red Sox should consider using at least one of them when he’s healthy enough to play.

I maintain that the root of all the Red Sox’s problems on this is an unwillingness to give up on Masataka Yoshida and just play their best players at what they do best. They’re working so hard to make things efficient that they’re doing things that actively make their team worse (playing Rafaela in the infield, sitting better hitters for Yoshida).

bigpizzamanMember since 2019
8 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yoshida missed half the season last year and when he came back various players were out (Abreu and Anthony were injured at different times, and Casas was out for season). I’m not sure who the better hitters they sat for Yoshida were. It will be interesting to see how things go this year with a (maybe) healthier roster

MoMember since 2024
8 months ago
Reply to  bigpizzaman

They really rushed Yoshida back last year. He seemed to get better as he readjusted to major league pitching.

JimmieFoxxalorianMember since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

FWIW, Yoshida had a 160 wRC+ over his final 51 plate appearances of the regular season. But he’s also been absolute crap over a much larger multi-year sample. Yoshida has battled injuries and hasn’t come close to being worth his AAV, but I can’t shake this weird feeling that he’s going to have at least 1 good year before his contract is over. That said, it’s well overdue that the Sox cut their losses and move on from him anyway. Whether they eat the contract or pay down part of it, they need to move him.

The Red Sox cannot truly progress while clogging the roster with him. If he had any fielding ability (especially in the infield), things would be different, but a Sox team loaded with outfielders is not going to proceed through the season well with a gloveless punch-and-judy DH/LFer hogging all the DH at-bats. Yoshida’s mere presence prevents Cora from occasionally resting players via rotating them through the DH slot. Not only does Yoshida not field well (contrary to the infamous ferris wheel scouting report), but he also doesn’t run well. What he is good at, is making contact. A team that prioritizes having a DH with limited power and strong contact skill might have a use for his services

bigpizzamanMember since 2019
8 months ago
Reply to  Okra

I think they neeeed to move either Casas or Yoshida. I wouldn’t mention Abreu or Duran

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  bigpizzaman

Who would you trade for Masataka Yoshida?

I wouldn’t trade any of Javier Baez, Lance McCullers, Taijuan Walker, or Andrew Benintendi for him straight up.

I would trade Kris Bryant though. I hear the Red Sox have wanted more right handed bats!

All kidding aside, I actually think Arenado or Nick Castellanos might be plausible options. Red Sox would definitely have to throw in something though to make the deal happen. Maybe Shane Drohan or Tyler Uberstine or Dalton Rogers. David Sandlin or Hayden Mullins if the Cardinals or Phillies drive a hard bargain.

Arenado would be preferable because he can actually play a position and the Red Sox could always use another infielder, but he’d be redundant if they re-sign Bregman. Castellanos would strictly be a DH, and mostly against left-handed pitching. But between Fried, Rodon, McClanahan, and Trevor Rogers he would get a fair amount of playing time against some of the better starters on their division rivals.

MoMember since 2024
8 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I don’t think Castellanos, Bryant, and Benintendi should be on major league rosters. Yoshida is a limited player who should never be in the field, but I think he’s still a slightly above-average hitter. He would be a better DH than several teams have now.

I think the red sox could eat $25M and trade him for nothing.

Uncle SpikeMember since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The Sox just need to trade Yoshida and $25M for a bucket of balls. Don’t trade Casas, he still has three options and a lot of potential.

OkraMember since 2016
8 months ago

Also, I recall from the trade value series that injured pitchers are excluded because of the perception that they are untradable. I know Dobbins isn’t a sexy name, but here is a guy recovering from his second torn ACL headlining a return for a top 12 first baseman. Just re-affirms that IMO guys like Ragan, McClanahan, and Schwellenbach are absolutely top 50 trade values in MLB.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  Okra

That’s his knee. I know that’s important for pitching too, but the three guys you mentioned had rotator cuff, elbow, and a combination UCL / nerve injuries. Which we know is super duper important for pitching. Unfortunately I know a lot about ACL injuries, and I can assure you that the arm and shoulder are both more important for throwing the ball.

Personally I think the concerns about all three of the guys you mentioned are overblown, especially Schwellenbach. The probability that they return back to where they were before is pretty good. But that’s not at all how teams operate. They are not trading for guys with injuries to their throwing arms unless they get an enormous discount. And usually the other side doesn’t want to do that. The reason why the reaction to the Taylor Ward trade was so negative was because Grayson Rodriguez was throwing like a #3 when he got hurt with four years of team control left.

Pitchers with serious pitching arm injuries have minimal trade value even though they probably have real-world value not too far off what they would be if they weren’t hurt. Teams are too risk averse. Ben is right to exclude them.

Last edited 8 months ago by sadtrombone
CC AFCMember since 2016
8 months ago
Reply to  Okra

Cmon, Contreras is an aging first baseman who’s making a good bit of money. He also had a no trade which basically limited his market to only contenders who needed a first baseman, which is a super small number of teams. This was a salary dump for the Cards not Dobbins fetching some big return

Brock244
8 months ago
Reply to  CC AFC

Contreas has a 130 wRC+ and .360 xWOBA over last 2 years.

CC AFCMember since 2016
8 months ago
Reply to  Brock244

Using the past two years is putting the thumb on the scale since 2024 was better than 2025 for him and he’s just getting older. I’m not saying it’s a bad contract, but the impetus for this is a team that doesn’t want high paid veterans around dumping the salary on a contender that was willing to take it. It wasn’t getting Dobbins that drove this.

Brock244
8 months ago
Reply to  CC AFC

Dating back to 2022, Contreras has a .365 xWOBA. He’s really good and fills a real need for the Sox and an impact hitter + good defender.

While he is old he is still performing and has top scale bat speed, so should be a fine short term option

Last edited 8 months ago by Brock244
maguroMember since 2016
8 months ago
Reply to  Brock244

Contreras is a good hitter, no one is disputing that. He’s just an older, defensively limited player on a largeish contract, which is why the main return on him is a 40+ FV pitcher.

Lanidrac
8 months ago
Reply to  maguro

“Defensively limited” is a questionable argument. He may only play 1B, but he’s become a pretty good one.

Keith Hernandez was also a defensively limited 1B. Not that Contreras is anywhere near his level with the glove, but the same argument applies.

Jon SealsMember since 2018
8 months ago
Reply to  maguro

They got three pitchers, not one. Fajardo is a top-10 prospect. (Dobbins was No. 11 the previous year, then went 4-1 in the bigs.) The Cardinals also clear more at-bats and innings for Burly, Herrera, and others with Contreras out of the picture.

PressXToJason
8 months ago
Reply to  Brock244

So you were told that he’s an aging hitter whose past performances are less and less relevant, and your response is to go further back.

Lanidrac
8 months ago
Reply to  CC AFC

It’s not that the Cardinals don’t want any highly paid veterans. They were willing to keep Contreras if the right deal didn’t come along, and they could’ve kept paying both him and Arenado if necessary.

The Cardinals are trading away their vets primarily to acquire young talent, not to dump salary. So yes, it was indeed acquiring Dobbins and the others that drove this deal.

Last edited 8 months ago by Lanidrac
sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  Ben Clemens

Hey, I agree with you. At least partly because you, you know, talk to sources.

OkraMember since 2016
8 months ago
Reply to  Ben Clemens

I’m not offended. But I think doing something like a trade value ranking is a fun thing (debating it is fun) and saying some guys can’t be ranked is a bit arbitrary and not fun. It’d be like if Eric said he’s not ranking any pitching prospects who just blew out their elbow.

OkraMember since 2016
8 months ago
Reply to  Okra

But I get it. I’m just some dude in the comments. Love your stuff Ben.

Jason BMember since 2017
8 months ago
Reply to  Ben Clemens

“That really grinds my gears” Ben is my favorite Ben so far

Lanidrac
8 months ago
Reply to  Ben Clemens

But that’s the thing; the Cardinals weren’t largely clearing salary. They had absolutely no need to move Contreras’s contract, and they were strongly considering keeping him.

But still, neither Dobbins nor Contreras belong anywhere near that list.

Last edited 8 months ago by Lanidrac
Lanidrac
8 months ago
Reply to  Okra

Considering Dobbins was only the headliner for acquiring Contreras (with only a relatively small amount of cash included), if Dobbins belonged on the trade value list, then Contreras himself would’ve belonged even higher on that list.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 months ago

Yeah, he’s not a perfect fit for the stadium, but I am not sure I would care about that too much if I were the Red Sox. One of the great things about having a guy who hits line drives is that it plays well in every stadium. Maybe you give him rest at home more often than on the road because he’s old and dealing with the wear and tear of being a catcher for most of his career but he was 25th in xwOBA this year among players with a minimum of 500 PAs. And that’s lower than his xwOBA for any year between 2022 and 2024. He’s probably going to hit very well at home even if he hits half as many homers and 50% more doubles.

Even better, he seems to actually be a decent defender at first base. On most teams this would not be such a big deal but the Red Sox have put such terrible defenders in the infield lately that they need to be looking for guys like this any chance they can get.

For this, the Red Sox give up a guy who pitched like a #4 last year, is projected to pitch like a #5 this year by Steamer, and has two minor league options and two prospects who were #37 and #38 on last year’s list. As much as I thought the Red Sox gave up a lot for a year of Sonny Gray when he could have vetoed a trade anywhere he didn’t like, they basically didn’t give up anyone here that they’re likely to miss. I think the Red Sox-Cardinals ledger is even now.

Pretty much all they have to do now is get another infielder–could be Bregman, but maybe a second baseman–so they can play Mayer and Story at the other two spots and aren’t as tempted to play Rafalea in the infield again. Yeah, they could do some more consolidation in the rotation, but they don’t have to.

lmb2020Member since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

You know who has an infielder they’re looking to trade? That’s right, the St. Louis Cardinals. Go ahead Chaim, trade with Breslow one more time.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  lmb2020

Donovan would be a fantastic fit for them even if they do re-sign Bregman. They could put Bregman at third, Mayer at short, Story at second, and they could have Donovan play for whichever one of those three is hurt because one of them will be*.

And then they could never play Rafaela in the infield again.


*moving Story to short if Mayer is hurt.

MoMember since 2024
8 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I love this idea!

lmb2020Member since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Somehow Donovan would end up in left and Rafaela at 2nd.

Halladay In CambodiaMember since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  lmb2020

I hate how this is true

dangledangleMember since 2024
8 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Dobbins was excess for the Sox. They had a bunch of dudes returning from injury then traded for a couple of additional starters. They do need to finish cleaning up their infield. I know Casas is an inconsistent hitter but he’s consistently been one of the worst fielders in the league when he’s been healthy.

lmb2020Member since 2020
8 months ago

Willson is absolutely going to fight a Yankee.

Willians Astu-stu-studilloMember since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  lmb2020

Now I’m remembering Dobbins’ raw and factually unjustified hatred of the Yankees. Yeah, Contreras is going to have some big shoes to fill in that clubhouse.

jdbolickMember since 2016
8 months ago

I’m shocked by how little it took to get Contreras. I would much rather have him for $47 million over the next three seasons than giving $155 million to Alonso over five.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  jdbolick

$47M and Hunter Dobbins! Don’t forget Hunter Dobbins! Who is…not going to be worth $100M.

I really think this was a situation where Contreras was only willing to approve a trade to teams that won at least 85 games last year, or something like that. It’s the only explanation for why the Orioles, Mets, and Pirates didn’t double the prospect value here. It’s hard to make a deal at all when a player has a no-trade clause. I’d argue this is more in line with what I would expect and the fact that the Cardinals could extract so much value in the Sonny Gray trade was much more surprising.

maguroMember since 2016
8 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Why would he not want to go to the Mets?

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  maguro

Who knows! Maybe they didn’t win enough last year. Maybe he and Carlos Mendoza had a run-in and he doesn’t like the guy. Maybe the Queens accent makes his skin crawl.

David Klein
8 months ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’ve seen nothing about him not wanting to be a Met. Sny reported that Contrearas was plan b behind Polanco.

PhilMember since 2016
8 months ago
Reply to  David Klein

Hmm… If I’m Contreras, the Mets wanting Polanco over me might make me quite hesitant to waive my no trade clause to join them.

David Klein
8 months ago
Reply to  Phil

Sorry I should be more clear if they didn’t sign Polanco they would have tried for Contreras they preferred Polanco.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
8 months ago
Reply to  David Klein

There was also some reporting that the Mets were still in on a potential Contreras trade after signing Polanco. But at that point it does seem like it’d be a harder sell to get him to waive his no-trade. Moot point anyhow, since presumably they could’ve topped this package if they’d really wanted to.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  David Klein

Hard to know, but it’s possible they moved on with Polanco because he wanted to go to the Red Sox instead.

But if not…if I were the Mets I absolutely would have preferred Contreras. By a lot. I would have traded either Santucci or Wenninger for him plus more, and both of those guys are better than Dobbins. Polanco is going to miss huge chunks of time.

And neither Polanco or Contreras should be getting more than 550 PAs a season at this point to keep them fresh. I would have absolutely gone for both of them.

What I’m trying to say is that the only good reasons to go for Polanco over Contreras are if he wasn’t waiving the no-trade or if the Cardinals were asking for a higher level prospect. And I’m pretty sure they weren’t based on this return.

CC AFCMember since 2016
8 months ago

Woulda just gone with Casas if I were the sawx. Don’t think the return was much of anything for the cards, but there was a limited market for Contreras so the salary dump for mediocre prospects is fine

dangledangleMember since 2024
8 months ago
Reply to  CC AFC

He’s likely going to AAA, he has three options left and he has no value right now.

Lanidrac
8 months ago
Reply to  CC AFC

They got a decent MLB starter, too, don’t forget. Dobbins may not do much in 2026, but the Cardinals now also have control over him for the 4 years after that. He’s at least a better long-term piece than Fitts is.

joelbarlow
8 months ago

At some point Bloom is going to have to do deals that DONT involve his previous employer. I’d be very concerned he’s not maximizing returns by limiting his targets to players that he knows. Not that I actually care.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 months ago
Reply to  joelbarlow

I had a thought kind of like this too. But aside from this deal–where the guy had a record of not wanting to waive his no-trade clause–he’s gotten strong value on his trades with the Red Sox.

marchandman34Member since 2020
8 months ago

Didn’t Willson catch the last pitch of that curse-breaking Cubs World Series win back in 2016? “

The first out yes, Miguel Montero the last one.

Nathan AndersonMember since 2021
8 months ago

As a Cardinals fan, I’m honestly sad to see Contreras go. While he didn’t have the winning legacy like with the Cubs, I thought he handled his time as a Cardinal very professionally. It’s a solid pickup by the Red Sox, getting consistent production at 1B. He’s not a superstar, but definitely better than what they have been getting.

For the Cardinals, they get something back that could potentially be useful and save some money. I guess you can’t ask much more. I’m glad Contreras is going to a good team.

maguroMember since 2016
8 months ago

He did handle things professionally, much more so than the Cardinals did in that first year.

raregokusMember since 2022
8 months ago
Reply to  maguro

Yeah he honestly deserved better than what the Cards gave him. I’m glad he went to a contender. It’ll be fun to finally watch him without fan bias in the way

KeithMember since 2024
8 months ago

I think the trade was great and it has a 2nd coming of Mike Napoli vibes to it….

Greg SimonsMember since 2016
8 months ago

“a fastball that doesn’t have a ton of shape”

I’ve been a baseball fan for nearly half a century, but I don’t know a lot about scouting lingo, so I have no idea what this phrase means. Anyone able to help? Thanks.

Jon SealsMember since 2018
8 months ago
Reply to  Greg Simons

I’m glad this is a place where someone can ask a genuine question and get a genuine answer. Hats off to David, Meg, and everyone else at FanGraphs.