Chris Sale and Death by Diversity
We tend to take the greatest players for granted, so it ought to tell you something when even one of the established elites is raising eyebrows. Chris Sale’s one of the very best starting pitchers in the world, of that there’s no question, and still he’s recently been generating all kinds of positive attention. Just Monday, he struck out 14 against the Astros in eight innings. It was his fourth consecutive start with double-digit strikeouts, and his fourth consecutive start with at least 20 missed bats. I won’t go through the specifics, but in terms of unhittability, Sale just tied one record with Sandy Koufax. He set a couple new all-time White Sox records, and he became the first pitcher to do a particular something since Randy Johnson. This is Chris Sale at the top of his game, and no one’s allowed a lower contact rate over the season’s last month.
Sale has established a few new personal bests, which, again, is a difficult thing to do, when you’ve been as excellent as he has. It seems like forever ago that he owned a near-6 ERA and people were wondering whether something was wrong. He’s yielded eight runs in six starts, he’s on a career-low FIP, and he’s on a career-low xFIP. When you look at the overall picture, at this point Sale looks more or less like himself. But underneath, you can see him evolving, and now Sale’s turned into one of the rarest sorts of pitchers.
You know about Sale’s slider. Sale’s always had a wicked slider, and while he started to move away from it some a year ago, it’s come back lately, and it’s never not been a dangerous weapon. Sale knows full well what his breaking ball can do.
You know about Sale’s changeup. It’s the changeup Sale leaned on more often as he decreased the usage of his slider. On a per-pitch basis, Sale’s changeup has his highest value, and while those numbers can occasionally deceive, they get the general message across. Sale’s got an awesome breaking ball, and he’s got an awesome offspeed pitch.
And the fastball? Mike Petriello wrote about Sale’s fastball in January. But it only continues to improve. This season, when Sale has thrown a four-seamer, a sixth of them have been cut on and missed. A third of all swing attempts have whiffed or, at least, tipped the ball into the glove. Consider this diversity of repertoire. What Sale can do is extremely uncommon.
On a hunch, I turned to the Baseball Prospectus PITCHf/x leaderboards. I looked at data for 2015, and I isolated pitch types that pitchers have thrown at least 100 times. I hunted for pitches with a swinging-strike rate of at least 15%. Not surprisingly, there’s no pitcher in baseball right now who’s thrown four of those pitches. These are the guys who have thrown three qualifying pitches:
- Chris Sale
- Corey Kluber
- Matt Harvey
Sale qualifies because of his four-seamer, slider, and changeup. Kluber qualifies because of his four-seamer, slider, and cutter. Harvey qualifies because of his slider, changeup, and curveball. And that’s it. Those are the three names. And one could make the argument that Sale is the most impressive, here, because he so rarely has the platoon advantage, and because he’s thrown the slider 15% of the time. Kluber’s thrown 11% four-seamers; Harvey’s thrown 11% changeups. And Harvey, of course, is in the National League.
In a sense, Sale has peers, and in another sense, Sale stands alone. Whether he’s really alone doesn’t change the point — he’s absolutely terrific, and he’s joined the exclusive three-weapon club because of the improvement of his heater. From Brooks Baseball, we can observe Sale’s evolving whiff rates:
All the pitches have higher rates in 2015, but you can see the four-seamer cross the 15% threshold. Relatedly, Sale has been throwing his four-seamer higher in the zone — or beyond it — making it all the more difficult to catch up to:
Sale has increasingly embraced the putaway elevated fastball, and so against righties — who he faces by far most often — they have to look for fastballs up, sliders down and in, or changeups down and away. Sale’s command is good enough that he can put those pitches in the zone when he needs to, and he can expand when he’s ahead in the count. So there’s no predicting what you’re going to get. But one clear trend: more and more of Sale’s strikeouts are coming on heaters.
At one point, early in his career, Sale got an eighth of his strikeouts on four-seamers. That’s up now to a half. Against the Astros on Monday, Sale recorded eight fastball strikeouts, establishing a new high. There’s nothing really different about the fastball — Sale just uses it better, which makes all his pitches better. Which is something Sale didn’t need, but I guess he feels greedy.
Now for some satisfying clips, for your perusal. Sale using a fastball for a strikeout on Monday:
Sale using a slider for a strikeout on Monday:
Sale using a changeup for a strikeout on Monday:
Sale’s throwing a career-high rate of first-pitch strikes. So he’s also throwing a career-high rate of pitches in pitcher-friendly counts. Regardless of the count, Sale isn’t afraid to throw any of his weapons, but when he’s ahead, he gets to make the zone a little bit bigger, which makes the task of hitting him unspeakably unfair. More than ever, he’s able to locate his pitches appropriately for the circumstances, and it’s just impossible to defend against everything. Sale can pick from the four quadrants, and from top to bottom velocity he spans nearly 20 miles per hour. There’s no such thing as being ready to hit him. There’s only being ready for a mistake. He’s making fewer of those.
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“Death by diversity”?
This sounds like an Ann Coulter article.
More like Clint Coulter, amirite?
By top 8 Pitchers, In Order, for this seasont now:
1. Chris Sale, having watched him, I really think he’s the best, and i love the cubs.
2. Clayton Kershaw
3. Matt Harvey
4. Chris Archer
5. Corey Kluber
6. Greinke
7. Masahiro Tanaka
8. AJ Burnett
And King Felix is . . . ?
Ranked ahead of Max Scherzer.
…chopped liver!
I think the top 3 pitchers in baseball in no order are Sale, Kershaw, and Kluber. Right after them are Felix, Scherzer, and maybe Archer, but I feel like I’d want to see him do this for longer.
Those rankings are bunk! Here are the real SP rankings:
1. Arrieta
2. Lester
3. Hammel
4. Hendricks
5. Wada
6. Travis Wood
7. Edwin Jackson
8. Getting hit by a car
9. Kershaw
10. Sale
11. Kluber
12. Harvey
13. Cole
14. Greinke
15. Scherzer
Man, getting hit by a car’s stuff has been absolutely *filthy* this year
Would definitely take getting hit by a car over watching Edwin Jackson pitch, at least it’s over quickly.
Hernandez is having a good season, sure; but his overall seasont number have fallen a bit. IN ORDER.
This may just be when I’ve seen him pitch, but his velocity looks to be up a tick as well. Whereas he used to sit 94-95 and touch 98, it seems like he’s sitting 95-96 and touching 99. With the most movement in baseball. (I don’t buy the Pitch F/X numbers. They have his overall fastball as averaging 89.9 and his two-seam only at 94.4, which means that they’re calling a bunch of his 85 mph change-ups “fastballs.”)
I’m wondering if maybe the late start to the season is the reason he seems a little stronger? In any event, in past seasons he’s started off at peak Randy Johnson levels (or better, with respect to last year) and then come down to something not as good as the season wore on. We’ll see if that’s the case this year.
Yeah, the Pitch F/X numbers here on fangraphs are simply wrong for Sale. Look him up using the pitch f/x tool on brooks baseball and you’ll get a more accurate picture of his pitches. They show his 4-seamer averaging 95.4 mph this season.
I’d love to know why the two sources have different data even though they’re both labeled pitch f/x. I have found brooks baseball to be more reliable.
The raw PitchF/X data is just an algorithm, so it puts some pitches with exceptional velocity and/or movement into the wrong buckets. The Brooks data is corrected by a person, so most of those errors get fixed in post-processing.
If Sale were to qualify on Baseball Reference’s career leaderboards (1,000 innings), he would rank 10th all-time in WHIP (1.06), 4th all-time in K/9 inn at 10.0, 2nd all-time in K/BB ratio at 4.37 and 6th all-time in ERA+ (147).
If that doesn’t tell you about the dominance of Chris Sale, I don’t know what will. He is legitimately pitching as one of the greatest pitchers of all-time.
Do keep in mind that he’s probably right at his peak at age 26. It’s a glorious peak, but if he pitches into his mid 30s the career rate stats will get worse.
Whoa, Dave, let’s cool the jets on the Chris Sale G.O.A.T. talk. Sale is nasty and his rate stats are top notch. But ‘greatness’ is achieved over time and generally includes winning. Sale has 1 lonely 200 inning season and he did that in 30 starts two years ago when he lost 3 more games than he won. Plus he is pitching in the post-steroids era and scoring is waaaaaay down. The GOAT’s were guys like Pedro, Unit and Schilling who absolutely dominated in an era that was defined by prolific offenses. So while Sale is certainly ‘pitching as one of the best pitchers of the last 3 years’, he doesn’t merit consideration for the GOAT list.
Schilling? In the discussion for greatest of all time? Naw.
Greatest former pitcher to bilk the state of Rhode Island in a video game company gone belly-up? Perhaps.
Jason,
Try to block out your hatred for people that think differently than you, and focus on the stats. Dave mentioned several rate stats like k/BB, WHIP, and K/9 so I just came up with 3 names off the top of my head who excelled in those categories. Schill dominated those categories at times: he led the bigs in K/BB FIVE TIMES, let the bigs is WHIP twice, three times he K’d 300 in a season. Nuff said
Well clearly he’s the greatest of all time! Who knew?! It’s every bit as ridiculous as including Sale in the discussion.
Also I like that you (wrongly) gleaned my political leanings from my comment. Try again!
Jason,
Some believe that Schill would be in the HOF if not for his outspoken nature and political leanings along with his failed video game deal. Your post implied that you’re in that camp. To reiterate: Schilling has the best K/BB rate of ALL TIME – he is the K/BB GOAT. Which you erroneously describe as ‘some good ratios or something’. Try again. Put your feelings aside, check the numbers and make a cogent argument.
I think Schilling likely will be, and definitely should be, in the HOF.
Which feelings am I to set aside? I couldn’t possibly care less about the video game debacle, I’m not footing the bill for that one. I was just pointing out an area where he was unquestionably the greatest of all time – ex-MLB pitchers who got some taxpayer funds to help their company and then failed spectacularly. He is the unquestioned pinnacle!
He is also the GOAT among ex-MLB’ers pushing a weird (and easily falsifiable) brand of young-earth creationism. (Probably a larger universe than the former category, but still undeniably the loudest and wrongest.)
I don’t hold these things against him; he is unquestionably the GOAT in these areas. As far as pitching? Excellent. HOF-worthy. Not GOAT. That’s all I was getting at!
I also like people who say “set your feelings aside”, like they are robots, completely devoid of feeling or emotion. Reminds me of our dear (but recently strangely quiet?) friend Rational Fan. 🙂
Schilling had a terrific peak to be sure, but to me it’s sacrilege to talk GOAT and not mention guys like Hubbell, Johnson, Grove, Koufax, Seaver, etc. There are all kinds of adjustments one has to make (for example, batters’ attitudes toward K’s, and consequently K% has changed dramatically to make contemporary pitchers look better), but when you talk GOAT, you have to include those guys that dominated whole eras. To me, Schilling is more in the Dizzy Dean category–great peak, but a relatively short one.
I missed you too. Sadly, I am bogged down like crazy with work and the season so I don’t have as much time to chat on fangraphs with my fellow brethren as I do before the season and afterwards.
As for the Schilling comment; why does this guy keep saying Schilling has better peripherals? He doesn’t, and it’s not really close.
Sale: 9.98 K’s, 2.28 Walks, 4.37 K/BB, 1.06 WHIP, 18.4 WAR (accumulates about 1 WAR every 40 innings pitched.) 2.97 FIP
Schilling: 8.6 K’s, 1.9 Walks, 4.5 K/BB, 1.13 WHIP, 80.1 WAR (accumulates about 1 WAR every 41 innings pitched). 3.23 FIP
Schilling spent the majority of his career in the National League as well; while Sale has spent his entire career in one of the three best hitters parks in the league.
Although others have pointed out that Sale is in his peak, but he is only getting better at this point and feel he may be able to reduce his numbers even more before the slight increase due to aging.
Yeah the Schilling inclusion strikes me as a bit strange there. Sure, I think he should be in the HOF, but other than a couple years with the terrible Phillies, I don’t think he was ever the best pitcher on his own team (2nd to each of the other 2 guys you mentioned).
But he had some good ratios! NUFF SAID.
(or…something)
I should have clarified – I was just trying to show that Sale is very good, but he’s not close to Pedro, Unit and Schill in the rate categories that Dave picked. Pedro and Unit are in the HOF (that’s where the GOATs reside) and Schill has a good case himself, but I included him because he is the ALL-TIME leader in K/BB (yes, all caps is warranted when we are talking about all-time). I just thought Dave was a little flippant with the GOAT call on Sale, that’s all.
Which is totally fair. We were just saying it was likewise a stretch to include Schilling in that GOAT discussion also.
I stopped reading after “when he lost 3 more games than he won”.
ok. for pitchers who’d thrown 600 or more innings through age 26 (more or less three full seasons), he’d be tied for 11th in WHIP with clayton kershaw and chief bender, 5th in k/9, 3rd in k/bb, and tied for 4th in ERA-.
sorry, i was using the data here on fangraphs, so i used ERA-, since that’s whats available.
he’d also be 3rd in LOB% at 79.2%, if that matters.
crud. that was intended as a reply to bridgeport joe. not my finest hour.
And yet it’s the no-name that gets the no-hitter because Giants luck trumps all skill.
Sale got pulled after 6 no-hit innings last year because he was just coming off his injury. Oh, for what could have been!
When it comes to no-hitters, luck basically always trumps skill.
I call bullshit on that!
In bed.
If im carlos rodon im attaching myself to sales hip for as long as humanly possible.
That seems uncomfortable for all parties involved.
Beautiful frame by Flowers on the slider K.
Just to beat the “Chris Sale has been really, really good” dead horse, in his last six starts:
46.2IP, 24H, 8R (7ER), 7BB, 67K.
So he is striking guys out like an elite reliever and walking guys like Mark Buehrle. Striking out nearly 10 times as many as he walks and allowing about 6 base runners/9IP. There are all kinds of amazing numbers you can pull out of that small sample size, just suffice it to say that he’s been pretty good.