Tony Cingrani, Now In A Position To Succeed

Tony Cingrani is going to the Reds bullpen, having already been ruled out of the Cincinnati starting competition. If that’s a surprise, it’s only because after they shed Alfredo Simon and Mat Latos over the winter, the team might now actually start the season with one (or both!) of Paul Maholm and Jason Marquis in the rotation. As Dave Cameron laid out yesterday, that’s absolutely no way for a team on the fringes of contention to be operating.

Cingrani isn’t pleased about it, but let’s be honest and admit that he seemed like a future reliever from the day he set foot in the big leagues. In a short cameo at the end of 2012, he threw 90% fastballs. In 104.1 innings in 2013, he threw 81% fastballs, trying desperately to find a useable second pitch. Last year, he got that down to 73%, but he also missed a considerable portion of the season with a shoulder injury, not pitching at all after June 19.

Or, put another way:

Fastball usage, 2013-14, min. 150 IP (179 total pitchers)

  1. Cingrani, 78.6%
  2. Danny Salazar, 68.6%
  3. Juan Nicasio, 68.2%
  4. Shelby Miller, 67.7%
  5. Kevin Gausman, 66.6%

Cingrani’s ahead, and not by a little. It’s pretty difficult to be a major league starter when you rely so heavily on only a single pitch, at least if you’re not Bartolo Colon. It’s harder when you don’t have great control (career 11.1% walk rate), do have a home run issue (1.40 HR/9), and have shown difficulty working deep into games (16 of his 29 career starts haven’t made it through six innings).

Add that to what the Reds surely know about the condition of his shoulder that the rest of us can’t, and there’s more than enough evidence to at least understand the move, if not necessarily support it given what it leaves in the rotation. (Although, that they would do it despite the condition of their rotation perhaps says enough on its own.)

Now, “Relatively unproven starter with questionable health loses shot to be a fifth starter” isn’t exactly noteworthy on its own, but Cingrani isn’t exactly a generic journeyman pitcher, either. For all the things he might be doing wrong, he’s absolutely been able to miss bats right alongside some pretty impressive names…

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K%, 2013-14, min. 150 IP

10) Felix Hernandez, 26.7%
11) Corey Kluber, 26.0%
12) Cingrani, 25.9%
13t) Madison Bumgarner / Wade Davis / Francisco Liriano, 24.9%

… and remember that one of those seasons not only ended early due to the shoulder injury, but had a 15-day May stint on the disabled list due to back trouble.

You probably know where this is going, now. Teams have gotten a lot of recent mileage out of turning failed starters into dominant relievers. That’s been true historically — hi, Mariano Rivera, Dennis Eckersley, and countless others — but it’s felt especially prominent now. Before the Royals did it with Davis, they did it with Luke Hochevar. The Orioles started Zach Britton 46 times before giving up and getting a great 2014 season of relief. Brett Cecil made 74 mostly fruitless starts for Toronto. Andrew Miller spent most of five seasons trying to start before figuring it out in the bullpen. You get the picture.

Now, there’s Cingrani, and you know how this usually works. Starters who convert to the bullpen not only often enjoy a boost in velocity, they get to toss aside pitches that aren’t working. Miller, for example, ditched his ineffective change in favor of a strict diet of fastballs and sliders. We haven’t seen a ton of Cingrani in relief — only seven games — but you don’t have to squint all that hard to see that both benefits could be hugely helpful in this case.

Back in 2013, he spent a few weeks of June in the Cincinnati bullpen. You probably didn’t need me to highlight that span in green to notice where the velocity jumped from ~92 to ~95, but hey, I’m here for you.

cingrani_2013_velo

While that’s a not-at-all-inconsequential jump — it almost mirrors Miller’s, with the obvious caveat that Miller has been a reliever for years, not weeks — what’s maybe most important there is the break in the otherwise steady blue line. That’s the changeup, and while Cingrani has been attempting to work it into the mix more (just under 7% in 2013, just over 12% in 2014), the problem is that it’s just not very good. — or at least, hasn’t been very good. Though Cingrani told Eno Sarris last year that he felt his change was better than his slider, the data has shown exactly the opposite:

Pitch Pitches O-Swing% Z-Swing% Swing% O-Contact% Z-Contact% Contact% SwStr% GB% wRC+
FA 2395 27.8% 63.3% 46.7% 68.0% 83.8% 79.3% 9.7% 31.5% 112
CH 277 20.5% 54.4% 31.8% 76.3% 94.0% 86.4% 4.3% 45.0% 185
SL 259 28.8% 46.7% 34.0% 43.4% 88.6% 61.4% 13.1% 69.0% 24

Hitters don’t offer at Cingrani’s change, and when they do, they make solid contact, particularly in the zone. It’s not hard to see which swinging strike number looks out of place, or that wRC+ column at the end. The slider even generates more grounders than the change does.

When it’s working, as the slider did here against Evan Longoria after a few fastballs in a row, there’s the potential for a pretty good pitch.

cingrani_slider_longoria

With a nod to the fact that we don’t know how much resistance Cingrani is going to put up to the move, he really seems like the perfect candidate. He’s got one good pitch, maybe two. He’s got good velocity as a starter that could potentially be elite as a reliever from the left side, and there’s enough concern about his durability to make the idea of limiting his workload appealing.

So if you stop asking Cingrani to pace himself, and stop having him worry about pitches that aren’t working, maybe, just maybe, you have something. And if the Reds need anything, it’s “something,” especially with a potentially disappointing season pointing directly to Aroldis Chapman being the most fascinating July trade piece we’ve seen in years. You hope for something good for this team, and while it’s not that Cingrani could never have been a successful starter, the odds — as they are with most any pitcher — are increased in the bullpen. Usually, I dislike the idea of giving up on a young pitcher as a starter before it’s proven they can’t handle it, which Cingrani has not. In this case? Yeah. This makes sense.





Mike Petriello used to write here, and now he does not. Find him at @mike_petriello or MLB.com.

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vivalajeter
11 years ago

“Cingrani’s ahead, and not by a little. It’s pretty difficult to be a major league starter when you rely so heavily on only a single pitch, at least if you’re not Bartolo Colon.”

Actually, according to PITCHf/x, Colon is a two-pitch pitcher (four seamer and two seamer). If you sort by Pitch Type, instead of PITCHf/x, then the top-5 Fastball usage are:

1. Colon, 84%
2. Cingrani, 78.7%
3. Masterson, 76.9%
4. Lynn, 76.2%
5. Salazar, 73.7%

He’s behind Colon, and the next three pitchers are much closer to him (and they’re pretty good pitchers, as well).

Looking at your PITCHf/x link, it seems that he’s the only one who doesn’t throw a two seamer. I wonder if adding that pitch would help him out a little.

DAN
11 years ago

Any thoughts/speculation about Cingrani’s specific role in the bullpen? Will he be the primary setup guy for Chapman, ala Cecil/Miller or more of a lefty specialist? It doesn’t seem likely they would move him into the bullpen just to be a long reliever/swingman. Can’t remember the last time a team had lefties in the 8th and 9th inning jobs.

Francis C.
11 years ago
Reply to  DAN

I’d imagine that he would start off in very low leverage situations and if he performs well, he will slowly move up the food chain, ultimately settling in as a set-up guy who can get holds.

Carl Allen
11 years ago
Reply to  Francis C.

I had the chance to watch Cingrani a lot in Louisville, and he just chewed up the competition. Aside from a slightly concerning walk rate (and what has caused his mediocrity so far at the MLB level) he has every chance to be a very good back-end reliever.

Even watching him as a starter in AAA, he had the makeup and “stuff” of a reliever. Two pitches (fastball, slider) and the fastball can touch the high-90s. He’s best out of the bullpen simply because he’s not the kind of guy who can, imo, be successful with a low-90s fastball and below-average control.

His stuff can be dominant, but out of the bullpen.

Michael
11 years ago

It’s a very well to do report; and everything makes perfect sense.

But only IF he doesn’t work out as a starter. This is the second time the Reds have taken a dynamic left handed pitcher, and rather than give him his shot at starting the major leagues; simply relegate him to the bullpen. 60 innings from Chapman a year is absolutely ridiculous, and I’m sure we’ll be saying the same about the 70 Tony is likely to get this year.

Give the kid his fair chance to make the big money in this league. He’s dominated at every level, including his one healthy year in the bigs … he deserves his fair shake to be a front line starting pitcher. What’s the harm if after a year of 12-14 and a 3.8 ERA, you then move him to the pen?

I mean for God’s sake. Jason Marquis is the #4 on this team. The Reds are not contending for a good long time.

BipMember since 2016
11 years ago

It’s one thing if he physically can’t handle a starter’s workload. He obviously had had injury problems, so that may be the case. However, I don’t think he’s gotten exposed for not having enough pitches. If he didn’t have enough looks for hitters, then he wouldn’t likely be able to maintain such a great K rate. The fact he gets so many Ks as a starter is a big deal.

I looked at his “times facing opponent in game” splits for 2013. He saw a huge increase in OPS against from the first to the second time facing a hitter, and then a slight reduction the third time around. I’m not sure if this split is meaningful, or if it is enough data, but it seems to me like the kind of thing that might indicate a guy is better suited to the bullpen.

To me it goes without saying he’d be a great in the bullpen. He’s a starting pitcher, of course he’d be great in the bullpen. My question is whether he can cut it as a starter, because I wouldn’t put him in the bullpen unless the answer to that question is no.