Cincinnati’s Winter Has Been a Disaster
Even against the backdrop of a slow offseason, watching the NL Central this winter has been an exercise in hot stove drudgery. Until the mini-flurry of activity that saw Adam Wainwright and Joc Pederson join the Cardinals and Cubs, respectively, the division’s top signed free agents, at least by ZiPS’s reckoning, were Daniel Robertson and Jace Peterson. Figuring out which team has been the most disappointing has been like an Agatha Christie novel: Bar the doors, everyone’s a suspect!
St. Louis has largely presented a convincing alibi with the Nolan Arenado trade and bringing Wainwright and Yadier Molina back for one last caper. So, whodunit? Was it the Pirates, a team that has become the baseball equivalent of a farm that is paid not to grow crops? Is it the Cubs, a team burdened by the apparent transformation of Chicago from a large-market megalopolis to a tiny town (or so they would have us believe)? Is it the Brewers, who, with Christian Yelich and Lorenzo Cain at their core, ought to be in full win-now mode? My pick, though, is the Inspector Cincinnati Reds — the division’s hero in the previous two mysteries — going rogue.
The Reds of the last two winters were among the few teams that made an effort to push forward to a division title, acquiring Sonny Gray, Yasiel Puig, Alex Wood, Matt Kemp, and José Iglesias. Not all of these players were good additions, but this initial flurry represented a genuine desire to compete. And when this group wasn’t enough, the organization doubled-down instead of folding, picking up Trevor Bauer from Cleveland and signing Mike Moustakas, Nick Castellanos, Wade Miley, and Shogo Akiyama. The result wasn’t an overwhelming success, but it was enough to get the team over the .500 mark and sneak into the playoffs, both things Cincinnati hadn’t done since 2013.
Last year’s playoff run ended ignominiously, with the Reds failing to score a single run in 22 innings against the Braves. It seemed inevitable that Bauer was headed to another city for an enormous raise (and he did), but free agency left the rest of the team’s core intact. With nobody in the division apparently possessing any burning desire to actually win the division — or so it appeared back in November — surely Cincinnati would find other options than Bauer to fix team holes!
About that…
One challenge was to replace some of Bauer’s 2020 performance in the rotation. While Cincinnati would be hard-pressed to do that, it was also a winter in which few starting pitchers attracted much interest. Charlie Morton, Corey Kluber, Garrett Richards, and Drew Smyly took one-year deals, and Mike Minor wasn’t breaking any banks with a two-year, $18 million contract with the Royals. The Reds passed on all those pitchers, as well as possible pillow-contract options like Robbie Ray or Rick Porcello, and haven’t signed a single starting pitcher to a major league contract to date — this in an offseason in which only two pitchers have signed multi-year deals with an AAV of at least $15 million (Bauer and Liam Hendriks).
Cincinnati’s rotation doesn’t project as a major issue, with ZiPS ranking it 12th and our depth chart rankings placing it 10th. The problem is that while the rotation isn’t a drag on the team, it’s also not a source of considerable strength as it was in 2020. The Reds’ starting five ranked third in baseball in WAR last season, trailing only Cleveland and the Yankees. When they “only” ranked eighth, as in 2019, that wasn’t enough to compensate for the team’s holes elsewhere, as shown by the team’s 75–87 final record. Cincinnati new general manager, Nick Krall, shot down the rumors of Gray and Luis Castillo being shopped, but the team’s lack of action largely fueled the idea that it was inching towards a fire sale.
Nor have the Reds made any moves to address the problems of the team’s lackluster offense. Their wRC+ of 88 over 2019 and ’20 ranked 24th in baseball, generally only above teams fighting to get out of last place. No lineup hole appeared wider this winter than the shortstop. Freddy Galvis was hardly a star at the position, but he’s no longer on the roster, leaving the team’s best in-house options as Jose Garcia, Kyle Holder, and, as weird as it still seems, backup catcher Kyle Farmer. Luckily for Cincinnati, there were few better times to sign a shortstop in free agency than this winter. Here are the ZiPS projections for the top available shortstops at the start of the offseason alongside Cincy’s realistic internal options. (Also included are Dee Strange-Gordon, inked to a minor-league deal this week, and Jonathan Villar, now a Met but who was rumored to be close to signing with the Reds. The latter two I’m projecting as shortstops here; neither ought to be considered shortstops at this point, but both represented at least theoretical choices at the position.)
| Player | BA | OBP | SLG | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | OPS+ | DR | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Marcus Semien | .268 | .341 | .497 | 589 | 99 | 158 | 31 | 4 | 32 | 93 | 66 | 120 | 11 | 116 | 2 | 4.4 |
| Ha-seong Kim | .272 | .343 | .480 | 606 | 100 | 165 | 34 | 4 | 28 | 104 | 62 | 121 | 17 | 113 | -2 | 3.6 |
| Didi Gregorius | .277 | .322 | .483 | 480 | 74 | 133 | 24 | 3 | 23 | 85 | 30 | 70 | 5 | 107 | 1 | 2.6 |
| Andrelton Simmons | .275 | .321 | .384 | 498 | 63 | 137 | 26 | 2 | 8 | 50 | 32 | 55 | 10 | 84 | 12 | 2.5 |
| Jonathan Villar | .246 | .314 | .385 | 533 | 69 | 131 | 19 | 2 | 17 | 57 | 53 | 159 | 39 | 82 | -9 | 0.7 |
| Kyle Holder | .234 | .285 | .352 | 418 | 43 | 98 | 18 | 2 | 9 | 34 | 27 | 88 | 5 | 66 | 0 | 0.0 |
| Kyle Farmer | .241 | .292 | .364 | 286 | 27 | 69 | 15 | 1 | 6 | 30 | 17 | 65 | 3 | 71 | -7 | -0.5 |
| José Garcia | .220 | .264 | .316 | 431 | 42 | 95 | 19 | 2 | 6 | 35 | 16 | 118 | 11 | 51 | 1 | -0.7 |
| Dee Strange-Gordon | .273 | .306 | .345 | 440 | 57 | 120 | 13 | 5 | 3 | 26 | 17 | 68 | 24 | 71 | -12 | -0.8 |
Semien, Kim, Gregorius and Simmons are all taken (along with most every other competent free agent), leaving little if anything behind. Missing from the options list: Nick Senzel. Despite him being a year removed from shoulder surgery and the conundrum of a crowded outfield, the Reds have shown little inclination to revisit Senzel at the position. Willy Adames is another possible option, but the Rays likely have a large asking price, which is unlikely to get cheaper now that there are fewer shortstops available.
The sum of Cincinnati’s inaction has eroded its position since the end of the 2020 season. Arenado brings a ton of upside to St. Louis, and the Brewers and Cubs, while not blowing away the market, have at least made some incremental improvements. The Reds have fallen farther behind in a footrace where everyone is mostly jogging. Below are the ZiPS-projected NL Central standings at two points: after non-tenders, and as of this morning.
| Team | W | L | GB | Pct | Div% | WC% | Playoff% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| St. Louis Cardinals | 82 | 80 | — | .506 | 29.9% | 2.9% | 32.8% |
| Milwaukee Brewers | 81 | 81 | 1 | .500 | 24.5% | 2.8% | 27.3% |
| Cincinnati Reds | 80 | 82 | 2 | .494 | 22.1% | 2.4% | 24.6% |
| Chicago Cubs | 80 | 82 | 2 | .494 | 21.3% | 2.5% | 23.9% |
| Pittsburgh Pirates | 72 | 90 | 10 | .444 | 2.2% | 0.3% | 2.5% |
| Team | W | L | GB | Pct | Div% | WC% | Playoff% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| St. Louis Cardinals | 85 | 77 | — | .525 | 46.3% | 5.0% | 51.3% |
| Chicago Cubs | 82 | 80 | 3 | .506 | 24.3% | 4.9% | 29.2% |
| Milwaukee Brewers | 81 | 81 | 4 | .500 | 20.3% | 4.3% | 24.7% |
| Cincinnati Reds | 78 | 84 | 7 | .481 | 8.9% | 2.2% | 11.1% |
| Pittsburgh Pirates | 68 | 94 | 17 | .420 | 0.1% | 0.0% | 0.2% |
By the team’s inaction, more than half of the playoff scenarios projected three months ago have evaporated into the aether. The Cardinals are the main beneficiary, and the Cubs and Brewers have done enough to hold serve. Pittsburgh’s decline is more severe than Cincinnati’s, but the Pirates at least have a long-term direction.
That’s the larger problem for the Reds: This is as good as it gets. They’re not waiting for a bevy of exciting young prospects to storm the NL Central barricades; the team’s offense looks even worse when we look to the future. Just for a very rough idea, I instructed ZiPS to construct depth charts for MLB based on 2023 projections using only players who are under team control. Obviously, this isn’t actually a projection in a traditional sense, but it does give us a look at each team’s strengths down the road.
| Team | W | L | GB | PCT | DIV% | WC% | PLAYOFF% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| St. Louis Cardinals | 87 | 75 | — | .537 | 62.5% | 3.6% | 66.1% |
| Milwaukee Brewers | 82 | 80 | 5 | .506 | 27.4% | 5.1% | 32.4% |
| Chicago Cubs | 78 | 84 | 9 | .481 | 8.5% | 2.0% | 10.6% |
| Pittsburgh Pirates | 71 | 91 | 16 | .438 | 1.1% | 0.2% | 1.2% |
| Cincinnati Reds | 70 | 92 | 17 | .432 | 0.6% | 0.1% | 0.7% |
In other words: Yep, this is as good as it gets. This future is extremely speculative, not even written in pencil at this point. But the trajectory the Reds are following is a negative one, and there’s a real risk that without the front office being smart and aggressive, this team has already hit its high-water mark.
Cincinnati dipped its toes carefully into rebuilding, getting a slow start, as I wrote in 2018.
The organization’s reluctance to trade older players is likely rooted in laudable intentions — namely, to retain a recognizable core who have a history with the team and who resonate with fans. Nevertheless, that reluctance has come back to bite the team over and over. And I’m not even talking about Joey Votto, a hitter who has actually earned his contract but has been publicly insistent that he’s not leaving Cincy, with the no-trade clause to back up that desire.
I’m also not even talking about older moves, like the sell-low trades of Todd Frazier and Aroldis Chapman. This pattern continued in 2018. Matt Harvey, picked up to flip at the deadline, turned out to never be flipped at all, reportedly because of ownership’s desire to retain him. Adam Duvall was traded after his collapse season rather than before, and the team made few significant inquiries into trading Billy Hamilton. Raisel Iglesias stayed put because there’s nothing more valuable for a last place team than a closer or something.
Cincinnati’s rebuild hasn’t been a disaster or anything, and there are plenty of big names to come. But you have to wonder if the organization has enough of that hard-hearted side that’s frequently necessary for a successful team. George Orwell once wrote that journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed and everything else is public relations. Putting together a great baseball team and good PR don’t always go hand-in-hand. Too often, the team chooses the PR side over the baseball one.
The team quickly shifted gears into more of a win-now mode, but this path came with risks. Once you start the train, you can’t really stop it. But that’s precisely what the Reds are trying to do right now. Yes, the financial losses resulting from COVID-19 are real, but those revenue struggles don’t change the basic contours of the roster. They still need to take advantage of Eugenio Suárez, Moustakas, Gray, and Castillo while they have them. Refusing to throw good money after good makes all of it bad.
The saying “nothing ventured, nothing gained” is a warning, originally attributed to Geoffrey Chaucer. Unfortunately for the Reds, they appear to be adopting it as their 2021 motto.
Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
For a sec I was like whoa what did the Cubs do to pick up a couple wins since the winter began. Then I remembered the article’s premise and I laughed… and then cried
I appreciate the humor, but I still don’t get what ZiPS sees there. Cubs lost Darvish, man. Brewers haven’t lost anyone near that important, added Wong, and tossed in a few strategic fliers (e.g. Robertson, Lopez, Hardy). ZiPS must adore Joc Peterson or something.
Anyhoo, not the point of the article I know. Just jumped out at me … as it clearly did you.
Bad Chili Bias!!!!!!! ;-P
As a Reds fan, I don’t need much analysis to know this offseason has been a disaster. But I do like the conceit of the NL Central as an Agatha Christie novel, and I wanted to thank you, Dan, for consistently including such creative devices to make your articles not just informative, but also enjoyable to read.
This is a great line too: “Refusing to throw good money after good makes all of it bad.” Wonderful work and a pleasure to read.
Perhaps I’m not understanding the “refusing to throw good money after good…” reference.
The Reds spent $164 million on Moustakas, Castellanos, Akiyama, and Miley over the last two years. Moustakas slashed .230/.331/.468 last year and that’s not even looking at his glove. Castellanos had a 102 wRC+ last year. Akiyama was an 85 wRC+. Miley pitched 14 innings and had a 4.90 xFIP. The Reds barely made the playoffs and were utterly crushed by a better team.
Would spending even more money this year, even given a potential (not actual, yet) down year in the Central, have made sense? Let’s say the Reds keep literally everyone. Are they better than the Dodgers? The Padres? The Braves? The Mets? They could spent twice as much on payroll and still – if they are lucky – get to, and lose in, the first round of the playoffs.
I can’t stand when ownership green-lights huge financial commitments to players that aren’t that good and then decides to not address the problems the team faces when the players they acquired end up performing like they usually do.
Moustakas’ WAR/600 in the three seasons leading up to 2020 was 2.4 and he averaged 2.4 WAR in those seasons. It was unfortunate that he only played in 73% of the Reds regular season games when he’d played in 91% of his teams’ games from ‘17-‘19 but his WAR/600 in 2020 was 2.6. They got what they paid for.
Castellanos has never added value as a baserunner, is a terrible defensive outfielder and needs to mash to even be average. His wRC+ from ‘17-‘19 was only 121 and it was also 121 in 2019. Any hitter can see their wRC+ fall 19 points from one season to the next. That’s what ended up happening to Castellanos in 2020. Factor in his defense and baserunning being as bad as usual and he ends up with only 0.4 WAR, 1.0 WAR/600. They got what they paid for.
Akiyama was a 31 year old who had never faced major league pitching and his biggest strength as a player was his defense. His defense was good, his offense was bad, he played in 54 games, and he put up 0.5 WAR, 1.6 WAR/600. They got what they paid for.
Wade Miley was injured but his contract was modest and pitchers get injured a lot.
Oh, and none of Yasiel Puig, Matt Kemp, or Alex Wood were very good when they decided to trade two good prospects for them and the privilege of not paying Homer Bailey anymore. This team sucks at “going for it”.
Agreed. So it should be “good money after bad”.
At the risk of feeding the up-and-coming juggernaut in Pittsburgh, the obvious remedy is to trade for Pirates SS E Gonzalez. The Pirates have an infield crowd with more on the way, and he is cheap enough despite being into his arb years.
Interestingly, ZIPS hates him (-0.6 WAR).
Yeah, I don’t think Gonzalez would be much better than in-house option Garcia.
Any chance we could get that 2023 chart, and maybe a few other future seasons, for all teams? Might make a fun standalone article…
I’d be interested to see that, too. Kyle Farmer, Michael Lorenzen, and Wade Miley are all due to be free agents after 2021. Tucker Barnhart and Sonny Gray are free agents after 2022. Other than that, everyone else on the Reds is controllable through 2023 or beyond. I suppose the expectation is that the free agents will leave without reinforcements while Moustakas, Suarez, Votto, and Castellanos will all decline.
To do that I think you would have to manufacture landing spots for all those 2021 and 2022 FAs…I feel pretty sure that they come out of the teams’ projections once they reach free agency. It would be a fun read, but a pretty Herculean task to construct all the offseason moves for all 30 teams.
It seems like the front office is really banking on positive regression from the hitting and pitching development to keep churning out arms. They ran a historically poor BABIP last season and most of the lineup underperformed by Statcast metrics. You can squint and see potential for a solid offense. Pitching development really helped Lucas Simms and Tejay Antone turn into quality pitchers last season and Boddy has been raving about Jose de Leon all offseason. Maybe he, Doolittle, and whoever else figures it out are enough to stay competitive? No excuses on the shortstop, though.
True, but ZiPS also considers quite a lot of regression from their BABIP! They were way under their peripheral stats and ZiPS does know that.
I am eyeing their Jeff Hoffman acquisition as another potential pitching boost.
I find it mildly entertaining that last year’s media swans are this year’s ugly ducklings. We all want to see ownership invest money in their product (or if not all, at least non-saps), but I find it odd that most outlets cling to spending as Good and not spending as Bad, which shapes the coverage of those teams. The thing that I find interesting is the Reds’ decision-making here. Why would they go all in on 2020 and immediately cut bait? It just makes no sense if we look at it from the perspective of “they genuinely cared about competing before, and now they don’t.” What changed?
N.B. This is not me criticizing Dan at all—he does a fantastic job in analyzing how individual transactions affect team success, and my question is outside the scope of this article.
Also, FWIW, I bear no relation to Cincinnati GM Nick Krall.
What about Nick Kroll? Or 1983’s “sci-fi fantasy swashbuckler” Krull?
I am unrelated to all Kralls, Krolls, and Krulls is the public sphere, although I do enjoy the band Krill.
Business decisions are tied to the economy. So what do these MLB owners believe about the near future of the economy?
But not every owner is behaving the same way, even now with a questionable economy. I don’t know that it’s quite that simple, although I do believe it is mostly due to economic consideration.
Not every owner’s other business ventures, finances, or area their operations are in is the same.
That, and teams are at different spending levels wrt to their revenue streams. The Reds were probably closer to the “red” zone than, say, the Blue Jays, who haven’t spent much lately, were when the off-season started.
It could be that they actually overspent last year compared to what they were comfortable doing in an attempt to go for it in a weak division while figuring that they could hold payroll steady or even cut it a little and still remain competitive in 2021.
If that’s the case, then COVID hit them even harder than most teams, thus forcing them to drastically cut payroll this offseason, yet they still have enough pieces that they still want to make a competitive attempt in MLB’s weakest division.
I’m surprised this is needing to be written in the comments and quite intelligent authors like Dan, close enough to Cincinnati, can’t figure this out.
The Reds pushed in probably more than was “smart” to do last offseason, and they were heralded as being aggressive and competitive. COVID REALLY adjusted their finances, when they looked at extra tickets from a playoff run in a 162 game season and everything that comes along with that.
After not getting that portion, but still fielding a competitive team, they’re stuck trying to figure out what to do with a likely directive from ownership to not add money this offseason. Why is this hard to figure out?
I’ll also add: don’t be surprised if the Reds show up as more competitive than it looks right now. Their offense historically under-performed and, while they weren’t the Big Red Machine in an off-year, it’s not hard to see a tad more production from that part. For pitching, losing Iglesias and, of course, Bauer is huge, but they also have an interesting assortment of new arms. Tutelage under Boddy shouldn’t be understated as he was at least part of an improvement in pitching in every metric worth-noting from 2019-2020. Is it enough to make-up the difference between a Cy Young season from Bauer and a career year from Iglesias? Probably not, but I think expecting repeats commensurate to financial commitment from both of those pitchers was also not something to expect.
This is a very solid take.
The Reds were rightfully *very* aggressive in 2020 with their elite rotation, knowing Bauer wasn’t forever, and did what they had to improve an offense with many holes – (arguably) overpaying for Castellanos and Moustakas.
As a Reds fan I continue to lament the waste of Votto’s all-time-great Prime Years, and hope he can find one more year with a .380 OBP, power or not.
Winker broke out big time and figures to be a legitimate 1-3 type hitter (vs RHP, at least). Reminds me of Shin-Soo Choo.
Senzel, we’re still waiting, but he has all the tools of an elite hitter (and he’s far from old).
Moustakas, Castellanos, and Suarez are not a middle of the lineup to be taken lightly. All underperformed, if I remember correctly.
Granted, if the Reds don’t make a move for a real shortstop, they’re likely in trouble. If they swing a rental deal for Trevor Story or make a blockbuster type move for Adames (likely trading 2-3 high end prospects), they will be real contenders in that division.
No, I feel the same way. I just want more nuance in my baseball financial discussions than all spending is good and all purging is bad.
Love the writing on this site, and this was no exception. Though, there is a glaring bald faced lie here. “The Pirates have a long term direction”. Maybe they do, but only in the sense that the underwear gnomes had a long term direction, and that doesn’t count.
I was wondering the same thing. I didn’t realize ‘cheap’ was a direction.
Pittsburgh’s stockpiling prospects. It’s disgusting how little they’re spending on major leaguers and insulting to their fans but they have a better long-term projection than the Reds currently do.
Okay, but did we really expect anything different? The Reds threw a lot of money at problems last offseason. Both the Castellanos and Moustakas contracts were about 25% more than they should have paid, and neither one are clean defensive fits. When we applaud teams for breaking their stereotype by spending freely, it doesn’t mean they’ve changed; it often just means they will be much stingier than usual in the future. That is fine when “the future” means “when your core is no longer ready to contend” and a lot less fine when it is “when your owner gets annoyed that the expensive free agents you signed are not as good as you said they were.”
I don’t really buy that we should be applauding the Reds for spending wildly in an off-season (last offseason) when it so obviously involves shoving everyone one slot higher on the defensive spectrum than they should be playing. Because now they’re in a situation where they’re not a particularly good team and the avenues for improvement are relatively limited because their owner has turned off the money spigots and none of the pieces fit together on defense. This is a team that has a top-notch pitching acquisition, development, and coaching and everything (everything!) they do on the position player side is bad. Meanwhile, the owner veers between capricious spending and capricious cutting. If you want to applaud them, we should applaud them when they hire someone who knows what they’re doing with position players, and when they get an owner who doesn’t get cold feet and is willing to see plans through.
Totally agree with calling BS on last year’s hype train and happy to say I never bought into the Reds as NL Central favorites (though I was curious as to whether they would/could keep pushing forward in 2021 — answer: apparently no).
The Reds (and Cubs before them and Marlins before them) are the reason I look at the Padres’ offseason with a raised eyebrow more than giddiness. Their payroll took a huge jump in a short period and the FO talks as if they’re still not maxxed out. But it’s one thing to exceed budget for 1-2 years. Can they really keep up this payroll for 5 years? Can they adjust to injuries? Pivot away from unexpected underperformance? Perhaps their TV deal is more profitable than meets the eye. For SD fans I hope so.
I, like everyone else, would love to see more teams attempt to win. But so many baseball writers seem so hung up on the tanking-sucks narrative that they refuse to acknowledge the legit risk for small- and mid-market teams. This joke of an NL Central is proof that not every team is lying about economic constraints. Ownership for Brewers, Reds and Cards has repeatedly shown in past a willingness to spend when opportunity avails. The fact none of them did so this offseason indicates that their lost revenues were not unsubstantial and that their margins may truly be thinner than franchises with massive TV deals.
Lack of meaningful revenue sharing is what’s causing the tankfests, and writers need to sharpen their quills on calling out the Yankees/Dodgers/Red Sox owners for preventing the reform that might actually solve this growing discrepancy as opposed to first touting then mocking ill-conceived spending sprees by the Reds of the world.
To be fair, MLB has a lot more revenue sharing than it used to have. As long as teams have their own private TV deals, I don’t see the owners willing to accept massive revenue sharing on the same level as the NFL.
You aren’t totally wrong, but I’ve gotta disagree about the Padres. They are spending at the perfect time — their farm system is fantastic, and they’ve produced a MVP-caliber player to build around. They signed another MVP-caliber player to pair with him (and Machado is still under 29 years old!). They’ve got a decent amount of cash to throw around, but at this point, they don’t necessarily need to spend much more.
Like with all teams, there are gaps and holes, but these Padres are in no way similar to the Reds or to the Padres of a few years ago.
So I don’t know if I would put the Brewers and Cards and Reds all in the same boat. The Brewers punch way, way above where you’d expect. Their TV deal is awful and their market is small, but the owner likes to win and they invest pretty heavily in the on-field product (and attendance reflects that investment). So they invest more when they’re competitive and cut when they’re not. I still think they screwed up letting Grandal go last offseason–they keep Grandal, they would have had a real shot of winning the division last year and might be
The Cards do too, although their revenues are actually easily in the Top 10 despite being a relatively small market; this is because the Cards have worked really hard to develop a fanbase.
I don’t know what to make of the Reds. Part of the issue is that they’re just really bad at everything related to position players. They thought they had a shot and they took it but I think they lack a considerable amount of self-awareness about where they are as a team.
I generally think we can slam the NL Central because this division is right there for the taking and nobody seems to want to seize it. In particular, I think the Cardinals are missing a golden opportunity. So on that level, I think it’s okay to drag the Reds but they never should have gone on that spending spree last winter either. There were plenty of 2nd basemen available without shoehorning Moustakas in at 2nd, their outfield consists of two guys who should be playing first base and a converted infielder, they have no shortstop…and last offseason, the Reds had a much tougher uphill battle than they do right now.
The problem isn’t a ‘lack of revenue sharing’. Rather it is a complete lack of consequences for tanking and deliberately failing to compete. If anything the revenues that accrue to MLB teams are too stable.
You want a real alternative? German and English soccer teams get relegated to a much worse league with poor media contracts when they choose to lose. They have to get rid of all their big player contracts – in exchange for nothing. Some teams go back and forth between promotion and relegation limbo. But mainly teams that are not managed well enough to survive in the best league – don’t stay there either. Teams that are managed well enough to be promoted – get promoted without having to tear everything down with FO hired to a different team.
As an aside – why is it that Shoeless Joe Jackson isn’t in the Hall of Fame but Frank Comiskey is?
Apparently it is verboten for players to throw a season but exceptionally brilliant and wise for team owners to do so.
FWIW, I agreed with the 1st line or 2, but you’re flat-wrong about a lot else. “the owner veers between capricious spending and capricious cutting.” Can you not connect the dots that COVID would affect some teams and ownerships differently than others? A year ago, the ink was very much not dry on them handing out ANOTHER 4-year, $64M contract for a FA hitter and we were still a month away from being able to spell “coronavirus.” You assume that its unrelated, the Reds operate in a bubble shielded by that, and ownership doesn’t have to change course from the after-effects.
Okay, there is one thing that I do think we slam the Reds for this offseason, and it’s the same thing we slammed the A’s for yesterday: Totally misreading the shortstop market. They let Freddy Galvis sign a $1.5M deal with the Orioles and while he’s not a world beater, they really don’t have anyone to play the position right now who can even pretend to hit major league pitching.
I think that there were some teams, like the Reds and A’s, who really took the “deep freeze” rhetoric on free agents to heart. They expected other teams would be as stingy as them and the deals would roll in. And that didn’t happen. They completely misread the offseason, and the teams are going to be worse than they were last year in a division they would have had a chance of winning.
Small market teams are just not spending with 2020 covid revenue issues and possible 2021 covid revenue issues…it’s only bargains for teams like the Rays and Reds. The Padres may be the exception, though I would not call SD a small town anymore.
SD was exactly in the right position to get much better very quickly. They had the farm which had to be thinned out because it was getting overpopulated and at Rule 5 risk. They had the opportunity because their first round of kids had really panned out. And no one else was spending, so they could grab not one but three major SP talents on the trade market.
I think the Reds (and the Rockies and other smaller market teams) just realized they weren’t going to get to the mountaintop, and at that point there isn’t much tangible that you’re actually buying, and so from the owners’ point of view might as well keep more.
The Dodgers should send a thank you card to the Reds for serving as a taxi squad and transaction partner for their recent playoff runs
The final offseason move by the Reds front office will be to name Skyline as the official ‘Chili with Beans’ of the Cincinnati Reds.
Amed Rosario would also be a potential SS target for the Reds. He’s is extra depth for Cleveland if they use Gimenez at SS & Hernandez at 2B again.
I’m no Reds fan, but i don’t think ZIPs or any other projection platform is intuitive enough to account for the gains that Red SP’s like Antone and Mahle will bring in 2021. They’re only a couple games from being in the thick of it. Their attendance for the most part has been abysmal the last 15 years or so. Even so, they went for it and it got them nowhere. They will come up with a serviceable SS for a helluva lot less than what Semian or DiDi signed for.
Shogo made adjustments the last month and looked pretty good. Moose and Castellanos are going to be better than short sample 2020. Votto is about done, but he finally conceded and changed his launch angle. Suarez will surely be better. Senzel has a chance to be pretty good health permitting. The thinning of solid bullpen options is more of a worry than SS in my view. They will have a pretty good rotation and lineup.
Great article–thanks. This is the almost inevitable result of a decade of half-measures and lack of a cohesive plan for the roster. Even the money they spent last year was not done wisely. They seemed to go after established, good (not great) players irrespective of where they would fit. Moustakas was signed early, so it wasn’t as if they were forced into that deal which then required moving him to 2b for a team that already was below average on defense. Similarly, they signed Castellanos despite already having a crowded OF. Sadly, it now looks like their only hope would be to spend their way out of this, which clearly won’t happen under current ownership. Until the team is sold to someone with truly deep pockets, this is indeed as good as it gets.
Reds fan here. I wish Jeter Downs was still around.
Not to mention Josiah Gray is now the top prospect in the Dodgers organization to boot!
Don’t overlook the big international signing they had with Nicolo Pinazzi out of Milan, Italy. He is a 21-year-old left handed pitcher that had a 3.53 ERA, averages about 91 MPH and tops out at 94 MPH. Full of raw talent, if he can harness control of his fastball, look for him to raise quickly through their farm system and make an impact on their MLB team by 2024. Most might say well it’s easy to be good in Italy, well take note that Junior Guerra pitched in Italy’s SERIE A baseball league before getting signed by the Milwaukee Brewers where he quickly became their ace.
Junior Guerra’s stat line in Italy: 1.29 ERA, 62.2 IP, 30 H, 12 R, 99 SO
Nicolo Pinazzi’s stat line in Italy: 3.53 ERA, 51 IP, 25 H, 102 SO