Daily Notes, With WS Odds Converted into Projections

Table of Contents
Here’s the table of contents for today’s edition of Daily Notes.

1. World Series Odds, Converted into Projections
2. Actual Transaction News
3. Video for No Reason: Mets Prospect Josh Edgin

World Series Odds, Converted into Projections
Regarding What This Is
This past offseason, after internet sportsbook Bodog had published their early odds for 2012’s World Series winner, I converted those odds into very basic projections, with a view towards seeing what the wisdom of the crowd might reveal about the upcoming season.

Now, with the season roughly at its midway point, I present updated World Series odds, once again converted into projected winning percentages for the league’s 30 clubs.

One Way This Is Different
One way these projected winning percentages are different from those from Novemeber is that these are based on odds from Pinnacle sportsbook, not Bodog. As reader Cliff noted in that first post, Bodog is what’s known as a “square’ book — which is to say, it tends to take bets from casual bettors who are more likely to bet on favorites or for their hometown team, for example. Accordingly, these books will offer less favorable odds on more popular clubs — and artificially inflate the projected World Series chances of those clubs, in the process. A “sharp” book, meanwhile, tends to cater more towards experienced bettors, who are more likely to place reasoned bets. Pinnacle appears to have a reputation as being a sharp book.

Another Way This Is Different
Another way this is different, is that the odds here — unlike in that original version — include the original stake, so the break-even point is just the listed odds divided by one.

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Table: World Series Odds, Converted into Projections
I’ve included the odds for each of the 30 MLB teams below. I’ve also included the break-even (BE) point (i.e. the likelihood of winning above which a team must have in order for a bet to be profitable) and a generic “projected” probability (i.e. what the odds suggest is the likely chance of each team winning the World Series) calculated by scaling the total break-even percentage for all 30 teams to 100%.

Team Odds BE Proj%
Texas Rangers 5.99 16.7% 14.6%
New York Yankees 6.75 14.8% 13.0%
Los Angeles Angels 11.33 8.8% 7.7%
Washington Nationals 11.82 8.5% 7.4%
Cincinnati Reds 15.21 6.6% 5.7%
San Francisco Giants 15.46 6.5% 5.7%
Atlanta Braves 19.26 5.2% 4.5%
Los Angeles Dodgers 20.79 4.8% 4.2%
Detroit Tigers 21.3 4.7% 4.1%
Chicago White Sox 22.31 4.5% 3.9%
St. Louis Cardinals 23.34 4.3% 3.7%
Boston Red Sox 25.36 3.9% 3.4%
Tampa Bay Rays 25.36 3.9% 3.4%
Philadelphia Phillies 34.49 2.9% 2.5%
Pittsburgh Pirates 36.52 2.7% 2.4%
New York Mets 41.59 2.4% 2.1%
Cleveland Indians 43.61 2.3% 2.0%
Arizona Diamondbacks 46.66 2.1% 1.9%
Baltimore Orioles 51.74 1.9% 1.7%
Toronto Blue Jays 56.81 1.8% 1.5%
Miami Marlins 61.87 1.6% 1.4%
Milwaukee Brewers 79.13 1.3% 1.1%
Oakland Athletics 137.96 0.7% 0.6%
Kansas City Royals 340.84 0.3% 0.3%
Colorado Rockies 457.5 0.2% 0.2%
Minnesota Twins 457.5 0.2% 0.2%
San Diego Padres 457.5 0.2% 0.2%
Chicago Cubs 609.67 0.2% 0.1%
Houston Astros 609.67 0.2% 0.1%
Seattle Mariners 680.68 0.1% 0.1%

Actual Transaction News
Thornburg Recalled, Will Relieve
Milwaukee right-hander Tyler Thornburg — ranked second among Brewers prospects by our Marc Hulet this preseason and second by John Sickels of Minor League Ball and fourth by Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com and fourth by Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus and also fourth by Baseball America — has been recalled by the club and will pitch in relief for the present, reports Adam McCalvy of MLB.com. Thornburg, 23, has posted this line at Double-A Huntsville this season: 75.0 IP, 8.52 K/9, 2.88 BB/9, 0.72 HR/9, 3.39 FIP. He made his major-league debut, a start, on June 19th — nor did it go excellently, as Thornburg conceded four home runs in 5.1 innings (box).

Royals Prospect Montgomery Demoted
The Kansas City Royals demoted left-handed prospect Mike Montgomery, 23, on Wednesday to Double-A Northwest Arkansas from Triple-A Omaha, reports Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star. Montgomery entered the season as the second-ranked prospect in the Royals system, according to our Marc Hulet — and the 33rd-ranked overall prospect in baseball. Montgomery has had problem at Triple-A this season, however, posting a line very similar to — if not exactly the same as — this one: 91.2 IP, 6.58 K/9, 4.22 B/9, 1.18 HR/9, 4.95 FIP. GM Dayton Moore, per Dutton, suggests that a change in mechanics — and a subsequent lack of velocity, from around 95-96 mph to 90-92 — could be to blame.

Edgin to Replace Gee
The New York Mets will replace Dillon Geeto whom a horrifying thing appears to’ve happened — on their active roster with left-handed pitching prospect Josh Edgin, reports MLB.com’s Paul Casella. Edgin, 25, has done this so far this year year at Triple-A Buffalo: 37.0 IP, 9.73 K/9, 4.38 BB/9, 0.00 HR/9, 2.58 FIP… Actually, now I notice it, Edgin isn’t a starter like I thought he was when I began writing this note. “What’s the use?” one wonders. To which the empty room responds only with a deafening silence.

Video for No Reason: Mets Prospect Josh Edgin
Here, not for any reason a man or any other gendered person could ascertain, is a video of Mets prospect Josh Edgin.





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13 Comments
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Fred Vincy
14 years ago

I’d guess the use of Edgin is that with Monday off the Mets won’t need a fifth starter until July 22. They can use Edgin in the pen until then and then decide who to bring up (assuming they haven’t traded for anyone by then).

Aaron (UK)
14 years ago

? (AL teams Proj %) = 56.5%
? (NL teams Proj %) = 43.2%

Is this simply a consequence of the top-end teams in the AL being the strongest overall (TEX/NYY), or is there a market bias here? Probably a bit of both.

As a bookmaker, I noted that the WS odds for most clubs did not move after the All-Star Game, which they probably should have done.

Aaron (UK)
14 years ago
Reply to  Aaron (UK)

Please read the ? as a sigma (i.e. sum) symbol. It didn’t render properly.

PiratesHurdles
14 years ago

Interesting that the Phillies who are dead last and in disarray in a tough division have better odds at the WS than the team with the 4th best record in MLB that has a very soft remaining schedule (51 of 77 vs losing teams).

Yeah, but the Bucs collapsed last year and the Phillies were good so therefore it has to happen again.

Jason B
14 years ago
Reply to  PiratesHurdles

Sincerely,

Disgruntled/underloved Bucs fan

guesswork
14 years ago
Reply to  PiratesHurdles

The numbers come from a sportsbook. I’m guessing the average fan would rather bet on the powerhouse Phillies (at least in recent memory) over the hapless Pirates (again, in recent memory). My recommendation to you: show your anger by putting down your entire life savings on the Pirate to reach the WS.

PiratesHurdles
14 years ago
Reply to  guesswork

Its not anger, its just laughable. In general, the media hype surrounding the East Coast teams is ridiculous. The Pirates have the best TV rating in MLB right now, yet ESPN can’t be bothered to notice. You would think that MLB would want to promote small revenue success stories, but we get fed more of the same.

Cutch and Votto are the two best hitters in baseball right now yet we get a Josh Hamilton interview during Cutch’s derby appearance and a Chipper Jones discussion while he bats in the showcase. Not surprising at all, just annoying.

PiratesHurdles
14 years ago
Reply to  guesswork

I also don’t mean to underestimate the stupididty of your average sports book gambler. I just thought the juxtaposition of these two teams was humorous.

TKDC
14 years ago
Reply to  guesswork

As a fan of another small market team that is 9.5 games ahead of the Phillies, yet also listed behind them, I agree with you.

– Jerry Seinfeld

Baltar
14 years ago

Publishing the WS-winning odds in this format is very refreshing.
It should be sobering to fans of the better teams who think their team’s chances are anything up to 50% and above, but it probably won’t be.

mcawesome
14 years ago

“GM Dayton Moore, per Dutton, suggests that a change in mechanics — and a subsequent lack of velocity, from around 95-96 mph to 90-92 — could be to blame.”

Uhhh, you think? A 4-5 MPH loss is going to expose you a bit.

Mariner's Fan
14 years ago

So you’re saying there is a chance….

byronMember since 2016
14 years ago

I don’t understand how square and sharp books could persist, assuming that the vig is the same at both. If you’re a sharp bettor, and you want to bet on an unpopular team, it would be to your advantage to do so on a square site, where the odds have been shifted towards the popular teams. And if you’re a square, you’d be better off betting on your popular teams at a sharp site.