Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 11/13/25

12:00
Avatar Dan Szymborski: And awaaaaay we go!

12:00
Ryan: After writing your Phillies report, do you see them as a fit for Jarren Duran? If not them, who?

12:01
Avatar Dan Szymborski: If they want him and have enough to tempt the Red Sox, I think most teams could fit in Duran’s skillset

12:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I have to admit, I’m still not sure how much of the trade buzz is smoke and not fire, even if it makes sense due to the logjam

12:02
The person who asks the lunch question: Is it a lunch day? What’s for lunch, if so?

12:02
Avatar Dan Szymborski: No lunch today

12:02
War2D2: What were your feelings on the NL Cy Young? I heard some grumbling that Sanchez had a more difficult schedule and should have at least garnered a couple 1st place votes.

12:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m a bit ambivalent as I think it was pretty close, closer than the first palce vote tallies. I haven’t really dug into WHO I think is the better candidate though.

12:03
Mike: Of these three, who will still be on the Twins when the season starts… Lopez, Ryan, Buxton? Thanks.

12:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I actually think they will all be

12:03
Sam: Woohoo for ZiPS season! Regarding the Phillies projections – the outfield seems weak (per usual unfortunately). What would your ideal and realistic outfield look like for 2026? (i.e., resigning Bader for CF and trying to find a right fielder)

12:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I expect them to come to terms with Schwarber in the end and search for a fill-in candidate similar to what they did with Kepler

12:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: One uncertainty is I just don’t have a feel for how THEY feel about Castellanos

12:05
Dan: How do you see Sonny Gray faring next year (and in 27 if his option is exercised)? Can he go toe-to-toe with the Cease/Valdez/Suarez cohort for a year or two?

12:06
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He’d do decently, but it would likely be short term; remember, 2028 is his age *38* season.

12:07
Avatar Dan Szymborski: If he’s a free agent after next season opting out after Cards exercises option, he’ll probably get an extra year at that salary, not a big salary bump

12:07
Mike: Wow. Is that the right thing for the Twins?

12:08
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Probably not. Once you take a heel turn, it’s best not to leave it half done.

12:08
wheelhouse: does zips see tucker as being as likely to live up to the contract he’s projected to get as other recent #1 free agents? i know he’s great but i just see this 30th-percentile outcome where he’s either a poor defensive RF or a 1B/DH with half the contract left to go

12:08
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I do not. ZiPS does not either, though I don’t always agree with ZiPS

12:09
War2D2: What does ZiPS think of Horton going forward? The projections on FG right now are…not good, to say the least. Having watched almost every start of his I personally feel like he’s probably better than a 1.4 WAR player, given how well he controls the zone. I think he has the possibility to be a pretty good #3, sort of another Taillon (for a comp in his own rotation). I realize even that prediction will disappoint most Cubs fans!

12:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: ZiPS likes him quite a bit more than Steamer does

12:10
Lars: Why do MLB players foul so many more balls off themselves than, say, high schoolers? Way more inside pitches? So much more movement?

12:10
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think there’s a lot of truth to this. And a major leaguer is much more competent at connecting with a shitty inside pitch they shouldn’t have swung at

12:11
matt w: Have you already started thinking about the special typeface you will use for Skenes in the Pirates projections? Also, how are the cats?

12:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’ve already thought about how to be obnoxious along these lines. But you’ll have to wait and see if I am

12:13
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Unfortunately, Mercutio crashed a few weeks ago with acute kidney failure, which basically fast-forwarded him from his early stage chronic kidney disease to end stage. He basically went from normal to unable to walk in about five hours and when I brought him to the vet, his temperature was down to 90 degrees. There was no choice what the humane thing to do was (he was 17)

12:13
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Constantine is the one who most noticed he’s gone; Constantine used to fetch him for dinner and has been meowing a bit in Merc’s favorite spots. The other two are fine.

12:13
Guest: Sorry if I glossed over any prior explanation,  but has there been any changes to the zips system that effected this years projections?

12:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Nothing super different!

12:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: There’s an intro for the ZiPS launch!

12:14
Devil Ray Jay Johnson: Did you have an awards vote this year? If so, what was your general process?

12:14
Avatar Dan Szymborski: NL ROY, and I did a piece on it too! https://blogs.fangraphs.com/my-2025-national-league-rookie-of-the-year…

12:15
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Haven’t really thought about my Hall ballot in specifics yet; they’re supposed to be mailed out from Cooperstown this coming Monday

12:15
TameImp: Is it safe to say that if Fairbanks had no takers at $11mm then Devin Williams probably isn’t worth $22mm for one year?

12:16
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’d definitely be surprised if Williams got that

12:16
Chef Boyardee is here: Any weird dreams lately?

12:16
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Nothing too odd really

12:16
Tiger Fan: Hey Dan, broad FG question here: are positional adjustments displayed publicly, and if so, where? I was wondering if 2B or 3B was higher. It feels like 3B defense is publicly considered more important than 2B, even though a 2B has a lot more ground to cover. Thanks!

12:17
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The ones I use in ZiPS are a bit “mellower”

12:18
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I use C 9, 1B -9.5, 2B 3, 3B 2, SS 7, LF -7, CF 2.5, RF -7, DH -9.5

12:20
Lord Thunder: Will Adley be considered a top 5 catcher in MLB 3 years from now?

12:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Honeslty, I’m leaning to no

12:20
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Though it’s certainly quite possible he is

12:20
Insert Witty Name Here: How can baseball regulate their gambling revenue stream to where all star pitchers who make tens of millions of dollars won’t juke their stats for 1919 Black Sox money?

12:21
Avatar Dan Szymborski: That’s the thing that amazes me, the piddling amounts of money involved.

12:21
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s like if a team asked me to change a projection to a fake on they provide and paid me with a sandwich

12:21
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I can buy my own sandwich, thank you very much

12:21
Tom: Ha-Seong Kim, do you think he ends up being getting a contract less than consensus – and who makes the most sense to you? That seems high for a waiver claim a few months back…(FYI 3/ $45M per crowdsource)

12:21
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I tend to think he will and shoudl probably consider a pillow deal. We’ll see

12:23
Shandy Koufax: Saw today that DRS and FRV, despite both being above average stats, sum to very different non-zero values. What gives? (FRV was -33, and -6 the last 2 years and DRS was 427 and 466)

12:23
Avatar Dan Szymborski: DRS isn’t being ruthless rebalanced to average clearly!

12:23
Mike: This likely isn’t the last gambling issue sports has. We have to believe some NFL officials are doing this, yes? How bad will it get how fast?

12:23
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’ll probalby get worse before it gets better. It’s kind of a messy thing

12:23
Boo Dodgers: I have a number of coworkers who think MLB teams can just buy world series nowadays and point to the Dodgers as their prime example. I agree with them that money matters and helps, but I don’t think it is the primary factor for determining success. Yes, teams that win WS tend to have spent more money, but part of that is good teams spend money when it is more valuable to them to do so. The Dodgers also happen to be the among the best at developing players. What do you think?

12:24
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The thing is, money only goes so far because the sport is *inherently* coin flippy

12:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: A team going from a 15% chance of a WS trophy to a 60% chance just by spending a whole crapload of money would be a real problem

12:25
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But if the best that money alone can do is move you from, say, 15% to 19%, it’s hard to care THAT much about it

12:25
matt w: I’m sorry about Mercutio. We lost our 17-year-old cat a little over a year ago and it was very hard. Now we have three young cats.

12:25
Guest: Sorry for your loss, Dan. Losing a furry family member is always really tough.

12:25
Alby: No question, just sorry to hear about Mercutio. It’s always tough.

12:26
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Thanks! It was quite a surprise since he had been acting relatively normal.

12:26
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But he *was* getting that old cat look so it had been in the back of my mind for about a year.

12:26
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He was getting bonier and his arthritis was bad, and I’m pretty sure he was going deaf

12:27
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He was getting monthly injections for his arthritis which had been helping, but still, he was only going to get worse, not better

12:28
Avatar Dan Szymborski: When I got the vet ER, I did have them perform a battery of tests and try to stabilize him, just so I could be sure what was going on. Since it was so quick, a number of things could have happened

12:29
Avatar Dan Szymborski: but his blood chemistry from his kidneys was off the table bad

12:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski: the vet thought it was triggered by pancreatitis

12:30
Guest: Obviosley you aren’t going to completely spoil it for us, but how does ZIPS feel about the Reds rotation? Top 5?

12:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’ll just say it decently likes them!

12:30
War2D2: As an aside: sorry I’m machine gunning you with questions, I’ve not been able to attend a chat in like a month. I appreciate that you do these!

12:30
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t usually do chats during playoffs simply because I’m sneaking every minute to get zips ready that I can! So you didn’t miss anything

12:30
Schwarbomb: Are you able to change a players home ballpark and see hypothetical changes in their projections? Ex. Schwarber plays 81 games at GABP, vs 81 games at Oracle Park. Is that something you can play with?

12:31
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Yeah. In fact, a common thing that player-agents like is a readout of the ZiPS for a player in every park

12:31
mmddyyyy: What do you try to do for professional growth?

12:32
Avatar Dan Szymborski: At this stage in my career, I’m just trying to arrest professional decline!

12:32
War2D2: Don’t the piddling amounts kind of imply that Clasé et al had more going on? I tend to assume that if you’re so desperate for $5k you’re probably over-extended. I’m not by any stretch a rich man, but I don’t think $5k would be enough for me to even consider making a change in the data I use at work.

12:33
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s certainly possible, but I don’t want to speculate what EXACTLY was going on, since I don’t know.

12:33
Avatar Dan Szymborski: People sometimes just do very stupid things that provide them no real benefit

12:33
Avatar Dan Szymborski: For instance, I’m a sucker for gas station hot dogs and lukewarm gas station breakfast sandwiches

12:34
Guest: Sorry about cat, I had 13 year old lab i lost and now my 13 year old Scottish terrier and I miss her terribly

12:34
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m sorry for your losses as well! My grandparents had a scotty when I was little that I was very attached to

12:34
Tom: What is the highest 80th percentile projection you have seen ZIPS produce, and does it surprise you that it was 2026 Paul Skenes?

12:34
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’m pretty sure it was a de grom

12:37
Springerdingding: How unusual would you guess or would ZiPS say is a rebound year like we saw from Springer?  This many years past the steroid era, any signs of re-lengthening of the peak performance window as a result of non-cheating conditioning and surgical improvements?

12:38
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s on the unusual side – 4% of players beat their 95th percentile OPS+ and Springer was one of them

12:38
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I haven’t seen any performance changes

12:38
War2D2: Condolences for the loss of Mercutio as well. I lost my 17yo tux cat in 2019 and I still accidentally call both my dog and my new cat by his name.

12:39
Avatar Dan Szymborski: BRB

12:41
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Ok internet just went out so im on phone. This will be slower

12:41
JD Martin: has the widespread availability of AI tools helped ZiPS at all?

12:42
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Not really. It’s helped clean up some of my hamhanded visual basic code

12:43
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Zips is already more or less a supervised model

12:44
Tike Mrout: Are there any players that you think ZiPS is flat wrong about, but in ways that are difficult/impossible to fix within the model?

12:45
Avatar Dan Szymborski: This was a larger problem the first few years, but wringing put calibration issues has eliminated this as a big problem

12:45
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Year to year misses are uncorrelated, and I’ve found no common threads on large misses

12:46
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Which is too bad; I wish there were easy accuracy boosts out there to be found

12:47
Cats: Adding to the chorus of condolences here. It’s such a sad thing. Have you ever explained to us how you arrived at your cats’ names? Mercutio is an 80-grade name.

12:47
Avatar Dan Szymborski: No rhyme or reason really. I like historical and literary names

12:49
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I was going to name my sibling pair Antonio and prospero, but I thought that people who didn’t get the reference would think i gave that cat a random person name

12:49
Avatar Dan Szymborski: It’s weird to me when cats have common person names

12:50
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I know someone who has a cat Ed. That’s just so odd to my ears

12:50
Sir Nerdlington: Any idea how ABS will change the catching defensive value in zWAR? Do I need to start working with my kid on anti-framing and yoinking balls out of the zone?

12:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Probably not a huge amount in this sorta robot system

12:51
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Wish they just went to all robot location rather than this half measure

12:52
romorr: Phillies first, Dan? Where are the Orioles? Your bias isn’t showing.

12:52
Avatar Dan Szymborski: All random!

12:52
TameImp: Given that Gleyber Torres was only able to get 1 for $15mm last year, was his 2025 season bounce backy enough to get more bidders on board? Just seems like something in his profile that doesn’t excite teams.

12:53
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Hell get a better deal but nothing huge

12:53
Sir Nerdlington: The Cubs payroll is infuriating, but I’m trying to mature and give them the benefit of the doubt. Do you have any insight as to whether they’re spending considerably more than other teams on tech, FO staff (not scouts obv), amenities? Or is it just paying off the Hotel Zachary?

12:54
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I don’t. It’s one of the things least likely to be communicated to me.

12:55
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Teams are usually happy to talk shop with me, and everyone knows im not a reporter, but im still journalisty enough that there a limits on what’s shared

12:56
Patrick Kivlehan: What goes into the decisions regarding displaying “external” stats on Fangraphs? Thinking of the PitchingBot grades as a recent example, and wondering if something like SEAGER from BPro might make an appearance.

12:57
Avatar Dan Szymborski: That’s a question for Dave mostly! I’m sure price is a factor too

12:57
Mike: How do you do, zips for a team like the Twins who have maybe two guys in the bullpen, no first baseman, one catcher?

12:58
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I mean its mostly zips for the players currently associated with teams rather than actual team projections

12:58
Avatar Dan Szymborski: But that’s a pretty wordy article totle

12:59
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Uh oh I hot dog finger d a w about which nl west team is biggest threat to la

1:00
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think in 2026 probably Arizona. Padres have a lot of pitching to find and limited payroll to do it

1:03
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Thank goodness, the internet’s back. I much prefer typing on a REAL computer.

1:03
Towson Marketplace: Thinking that Trent Grisham would be great get for Orioles… U in or out on him?

1:04
Avatar Dan Szymborski: He’d be interesting, but I’m not sure that he’d be a priority. If the Orioles want to spend money, I’d want a pitcher

1:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Is there anything even left at Towson Marketplace? Last I drove by I know PetSmart, and Ollies are there and Target

1:05
mmddyyyy: At what age do players stop getting faster?

1:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Very young

1:05
Tacoby Bellsbury: 1/30th of the way through, what’s the most surprising thing ZiPS has spit out so far?

1:05
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Well, the first ZiPS batch run, it projected 2000 hitters and named them all Zyhir Hope

1:06
Avatar Dan Szymborski: The Crawford projection is kinda weird in that ZiPS thinks he’s a very solid player right now, but basically has him plateauing at this level

1:08
Oaktown Blues: Which of the 2000 Zyhirs Hope had the most surprising projection to you?

1:08
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Well, the one in which Zyhir Hope projected to 7 point something WAR. That’s a lot for Hope

1:09
drplantwrench: do you have thoughts on the Angel’s coaching hires? are they doing something good for once?!

1:09
Avatar Dan Szymborski: Kind of a wait and see. I’m most optimistic abotu Keith Johnson

1:11
Insert Witty Name Here: Any ideas for a new cats name? I told my wife our next one is going to be Yoshinobu Yamamoto just because it’s so fun to say and I’m mostly looking forward to the Vet’s face when they hear it.

1:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I think Pet names are a personal thing!

1:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: On that note, I have the next team ZiPS to finish for publication, so it’s time to go!

1:11
Avatar Dan Szymborski: I’ll see you all next time





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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