Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 11/13/25
| 12:00 |
: And awaaaaay we go!
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| 12:00 |
: After writing your Phillies report, do you see them as a fit for Jarren Duran? If not them, who?
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| 12:01 |
: If they want him and have enough to tempt the Red Sox, I think most teams could fit in Duran’s skillset
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| 12:02 |
: I have to admit, I’m still not sure how much of the trade buzz is smoke and not fire, even if it makes sense due to the logjam
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| 12:02 |
: Is it a lunch day? What’s for lunch, if so?
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| 12:02 |
: No lunch today
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| 12:02 |
: What were your feelings on the NL Cy Young? I heard some grumbling that Sanchez had a more difficult schedule and should have at least garnered a couple 1st place votes.
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| 12:03 |
: I’m a bit ambivalent as I think it was pretty close, closer than the first palce vote tallies. I haven’t really dug into WHO I think is the better candidate though.
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| 12:03 |
: Of these three, who will still be on the Twins when the season starts… Lopez, Ryan, Buxton? Thanks.
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| 12:03 |
: I actually think they will all be
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| 12:03 |
: Woohoo for ZiPS season! Regarding the Phillies projections – the outfield seems weak (per usual unfortunately). What would your ideal and realistic outfield look like for 2026? (i.e., resigning Bader for CF and trying to find a right fielder)
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| 12:04 |
: I expect them to come to terms with Schwarber in the end and search for a fill-in candidate similar to what they did with Kepler
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| 12:04 |
: One uncertainty is I just don’t have a feel for how THEY feel about Castellanos
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| 12:05 |
: How do you see Sonny Gray faring next year (and in 27 if his option is exercised)? Can he go toe-to-toe with the Cease/Valdez/Suarez cohort for a year or two?
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| 12:06 |
: He’d do decently, but it would likely be short term; remember, 2028 is his age *38* season.
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| 12:07 |
: If he’s a free agent after next season opting out after Cards exercises option, he’ll probably get an extra year at that salary, not a big salary bump
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| 12:07 |
: Wow. Is that the right thing for the Twins?
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| 12:08 |
: Probably not. Once you take a heel turn, it’s best not to leave it half done.
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| 12:08 |
: does zips see tucker as being as likely to live up to the contract he’s projected to get as other recent #1 free agents? i know he’s great but i just see this 30th-percentile outcome where he’s either a poor defensive RF or a 1B/DH with half the contract left to go
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| 12:08 |
: I do not. ZiPS does not either, though I don’t always agree with ZiPS
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| 12:09 |
: What does ZiPS think of Horton going forward? The projections on FG right now are…not good, to say the least. Having watched almost every start of his I personally feel like he’s probably better than a 1.4 WAR player, given how well he controls the zone. I think he has the possibility to be a pretty good #3, sort of another Taillon (for a comp in his own rotation). I realize even that prediction will disappoint most Cubs fans!
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| 12:09 |
: ZiPS likes him quite a bit more than Steamer does
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| 12:10 |
: Why do MLB players foul so many more balls off themselves than, say, high schoolers? Way more inside pitches? So much more movement?
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| 12:10 |
: I think there’s a lot of truth to this. And a major leaguer is much more competent at connecting with a shitty inside pitch they shouldn’t have swung at
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| 12:11 |
: Have you already started thinking about the special typeface you will use for Skenes in the Pirates projections? Also, how are the cats?
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| 12:11 |
: I’ve already thought about how to be obnoxious along these lines. But you’ll have to wait and see if I am
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| 12:13 |
: Unfortunately, Mercutio crashed a few weeks ago with acute kidney failure, which basically fast-forwarded him from his early stage chronic kidney disease to end stage. He basically went from normal to unable to walk in about five hours and when I brought him to the vet, his temperature was down to 90 degrees. There was no choice what the humane thing to do was (he was 17)
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| 12:13 |
: Constantine is the one who most noticed he’s gone; Constantine used to fetch him for dinner and has been meowing a bit in Merc’s favorite spots. The other two are fine.
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| 12:13 |
: Sorry if I glossed over any prior explanation, but has there been any changes to the zips system that effected this years projections?
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| 12:14 |
: Nothing super different!
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| 12:14 |
: There’s an intro for the ZiPS launch!
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| 12:14 |
: Did you have an awards vote this year? If so, what was your general process?
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| 12:14 |
: NL ROY, and I did a piece on it too! https://blogs.fangraphs.com/my-2025-national-league-rookie-of-the-year…
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| 12:15 |
: Haven’t really thought about my Hall ballot in specifics yet; they’re supposed to be mailed out from Cooperstown this coming Monday
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| 12:15 |
: Is it safe to say that if Fairbanks had no takers at $11mm then Devin Williams probably isn’t worth $22mm for one year?
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| 12:16 |
: I’d definitely be surprised if Williams got that
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| 12:16 |
: Any weird dreams lately?
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| 12:16 |
: Nothing too odd really
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| 12:16 |
: Hey Dan, broad FG question here: are positional adjustments displayed publicly, and if so, where? I was wondering if 2B or 3B was higher. It feels like 3B defense is publicly considered more important than 2B, even though a 2B has a lot more ground to cover. Thanks!
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| 12:17 |
: The ones I use in ZiPS are a bit “mellower”
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| 12:18 |
: I use C 9, 1B -9.5, 2B 3, 3B 2, SS 7, LF -7, CF 2.5, RF -7, DH -9.5
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| 12:20 |
: Will Adley be considered a top 5 catcher in MLB 3 years from now?
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| 12:20 |
: Honeslty, I’m leaning to no
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| 12:20 |
: Though it’s certainly quite possible he is
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| 12:20 |
: How can baseball regulate their gambling revenue stream to where all star pitchers who make tens of millions of dollars won’t juke their stats for 1919 Black Sox money?
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| 12:21 |
: That’s the thing that amazes me, the piddling amounts of money involved.
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| 12:21 |
: It’s like if a team asked me to change a projection to a fake on they provide and paid me with a sandwich
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| 12:21 |
: I can buy my own sandwich, thank you very much
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| 12:21 |
: Ha-Seong Kim, do you think he ends up being getting a contract less than consensus – and who makes the most sense to you? That seems high for a waiver claim a few months back…(FYI 3/ $45M per crowdsource)
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| 12:21 |
: I tend to think he will and shoudl probably consider a pillow deal. We’ll see
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| 12:23 |
: Saw today that DRS and FRV, despite both being above average stats, sum to very different non-zero values. What gives? (FRV was -33, and -6 the last 2 years and DRS was 427 and 466)
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| 12:23 |
: DRS isn’t being ruthless rebalanced to average clearly!
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| 12:23 |
: This likely isn’t the last gambling issue sports has. We have to believe some NFL officials are doing this, yes? How bad will it get how fast?
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| 12:23 |
: It’ll probalby get worse before it gets better. It’s kind of a messy thing
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| 12:23 |
: I have a number of coworkers who think MLB teams can just buy world series nowadays and point to the Dodgers as their prime example. I agree with them that money matters and helps, but I don’t think it is the primary factor for determining success. Yes, teams that win WS tend to have spent more money, but part of that is good teams spend money when it is more valuable to them to do so. The Dodgers also happen to be the among the best at developing players. What do you think?
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| 12:24 |
: The thing is, money only goes so far because the sport is *inherently* coin flippy
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| 12:25 |
: A team going from a 15% chance of a WS trophy to a 60% chance just by spending a whole crapload of money would be a real problem
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| 12:25 |
: But if the best that money alone can do is move you from, say, 15% to 19%, it’s hard to care THAT much about it
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| 12:25 |
: I’m sorry about Mercutio. We lost our 17-year-old cat a little over a year ago and it was very hard. Now we have three young cats.
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| 12:25 |
: Sorry for your loss, Dan. Losing a furry family member is always really tough.
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| 12:25 |
: No question, just sorry to hear about Mercutio. It’s always tough.
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| 12:26 |
: Thanks! It was quite a surprise since he had been acting relatively normal.
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| 12:26 |
: But he *was* getting that old cat look so it had been in the back of my mind for about a year.
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| 12:26 |
: He was getting bonier and his arthritis was bad, and I’m pretty sure he was going deaf
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| 12:27 |
: He was getting monthly injections for his arthritis which had been helping, but still, he was only going to get worse, not better
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| 12:28 |
: When I got the vet ER, I did have them perform a battery of tests and try to stabilize him, just so I could be sure what was going on. Since it was so quick, a number of things could have happened
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| 12:29 |
: but his blood chemistry from his kidneys was off the table bad
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| 12:30 |
: the vet thought it was triggered by pancreatitis
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| 12:30 |
: Obviosley you aren’t going to completely spoil it for us, but how does ZIPS feel about the Reds rotation? Top 5?
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| 12:30 |
: I’ll just say it decently likes them!
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| 12:30 |
: As an aside: sorry I’m machine gunning you with questions, I’ve not been able to attend a chat in like a month. I appreciate that you do these!
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| 12:30 |
: I don’t usually do chats during playoffs simply because I’m sneaking every minute to get zips ready that I can! So you didn’t miss anything
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| 12:30 |
: Are you able to change a players home ballpark and see hypothetical changes in their projections? Ex. Schwarber plays 81 games at GABP, vs 81 games at Oracle Park. Is that something you can play with?
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| 12:31 |
: Yeah. In fact, a common thing that player-agents like is a readout of the ZiPS for a player in every park
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| 12:31 |
: What do you try to do for professional growth?
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| 12:32 |
: At this stage in my career, I’m just trying to arrest professional decline!
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| 12:32 |
: Don’t the piddling amounts kind of imply that Clasé et al had more going on? I tend to assume that if you’re so desperate for $5k you’re probably over-extended. I’m not by any stretch a rich man, but I don’t think $5k would be enough for me to even consider making a change in the data I use at work.
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| 12:33 |
: It’s certainly possible, but I don’t want to speculate what EXACTLY was going on, since I don’t know.
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| 12:33 |
: People sometimes just do very stupid things that provide them no real benefit
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| 12:33 |
: For instance, I’m a sucker for gas station hot dogs and lukewarm gas station breakfast sandwiches
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| 12:34 |
: Sorry about cat, I had 13 year old lab i lost and now my 13 year old Scottish terrier and I miss her terribly
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| 12:34 |
: I’m sorry for your losses as well! My grandparents had a scotty when I was little that I was very attached to
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| 12:34 |
: What is the highest 80th percentile projection you have seen ZIPS produce, and does it surprise you that it was 2026 Paul Skenes?
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| 12:34 |
: I’m pretty sure it was a de grom
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| 12:37 |
: How unusual would you guess or would ZiPS say is a rebound year like we saw from Springer? This many years past the steroid era, any signs of re-lengthening of the peak performance window as a result of non-cheating conditioning and surgical improvements?
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| 12:38 |
: It’s on the unusual side – 4% of players beat their 95th percentile OPS+ and Springer was one of them
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| 12:38 |
: I haven’t seen any performance changes
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| 12:38 |
: Condolences for the loss of Mercutio as well. I lost my 17yo tux cat in 2019 and I still accidentally call both my dog and my new cat by his name.
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| 12:39 |
: BRB
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| 12:41 |
: Ok internet just went out so im on phone. This will be slower
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| 12:41 |
: has the widespread availability of AI tools helped ZiPS at all?
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| 12:42 |
: Not really. It’s helped clean up some of my hamhanded visual basic code
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| 12:43 |
: Zips is already more or less a supervised model
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| 12:44 |
: Are there any players that you think ZiPS is flat wrong about, but in ways that are difficult/impossible to fix within the model?
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| 12:45 |
: This was a larger problem the first few years, but wringing put calibration issues has eliminated this as a big problem
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| 12:45 |
: Year to year misses are uncorrelated, and I’ve found no common threads on large misses
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| 12:46 |
: Which is too bad; I wish there were easy accuracy boosts out there to be found
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| 12:47 |
: Adding to the chorus of condolences here. It’s such a sad thing. Have you ever explained to us how you arrived at your cats’ names? Mercutio is an 80-grade name.
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| 12:47 |
: No rhyme or reason really. I like historical and literary names
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| 12:49 |
: I was going to name my sibling pair Antonio and prospero, but I thought that people who didn’t get the reference would think i gave that cat a random person name
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| 12:49 |
: It’s weird to me when cats have common person names
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| 12:50 |
: I know someone who has a cat Ed. That’s just so odd to my ears
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| 12:50 |
: Any idea how ABS will change the catching defensive value in zWAR? Do I need to start working with my kid on anti-framing and yoinking balls out of the zone?
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| 12:51 |
: Probably not a huge amount in this sorta robot system
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| 12:51 |
: Wish they just went to all robot location rather than this half measure
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| 12:52 |
: Phillies first, Dan? Where are the Orioles? Your bias isn’t showing.
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| 12:52 |
: All random!
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| 12:52 |
: Given that Gleyber Torres was only able to get 1 for $15mm last year, was his 2025 season bounce backy enough to get more bidders on board? Just seems like something in his profile that doesn’t excite teams.
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| 12:53 |
: Hell get a better deal but nothing huge
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| 12:53 |
: The Cubs payroll is infuriating, but I’m trying to mature and give them the benefit of the doubt. Do you have any insight as to whether they’re spending considerably more than other teams on tech, FO staff (not scouts obv), amenities? Or is it just paying off the Hotel Zachary?
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| 12:54 |
: I don’t. It’s one of the things least likely to be communicated to me.
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| 12:55 |
: Teams are usually happy to talk shop with me, and everyone knows im not a reporter, but im still journalisty enough that there a limits on what’s shared
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| 12:56 |
: What goes into the decisions regarding displaying “external” stats on Fangraphs? Thinking of the PitchingBot grades as a recent example, and wondering if something like SEAGER from BPro might make an appearance.
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| 12:57 |
: That’s a question for Dave mostly! I’m sure price is a factor too
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| 12:57 |
: How do you do, zips for a team like the Twins who have maybe two guys in the bullpen, no first baseman, one catcher?
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| 12:58 |
: I mean its mostly zips for the players currently associated with teams rather than actual team projections
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| 12:58 |
: But that’s a pretty wordy article totle
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| 12:59 |
: Uh oh I hot dog finger d a w about which nl west team is biggest threat to la
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| 1:00 |
: I think in 2026 probably Arizona. Padres have a lot of pitching to find and limited payroll to do it
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| 1:03 |
: Thank goodness, the internet’s back. I much prefer typing on a REAL computer.
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| 1:03 |
: Thinking that Trent Grisham would be great get for Orioles… U in or out on him?
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| 1:04 |
: He’d be interesting, but I’m not sure that he’d be a priority. If the Orioles want to spend money, I’d want a pitcher
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| 1:05 |
: Is there anything even left at Towson Marketplace? Last I drove by I know PetSmart, and Ollies are there and Target
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| 1:05 |
: At what age do players stop getting faster?
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| 1:05 |
: Very young
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| 1:05 |
: 1/30th of the way through, what’s the most surprising thing ZiPS has spit out so far?
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| 1:05 |
: Well, the first ZiPS batch run, it projected 2000 hitters and named them all Zyhir Hope
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| 1:06 |
: The Crawford projection is kinda weird in that ZiPS thinks he’s a very solid player right now, but basically has him plateauing at this level
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| 1:08 |
: Which of the 2000 Zyhirs Hope had the most surprising projection to you?
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| 1:08 |
: Well, the one in which Zyhir Hope projected to 7 point something WAR. That’s a lot for Hope
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| 1:09 |
: do you have thoughts on the Angel’s coaching hires? are they doing something good for once?!
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| 1:09 |
: Kind of a wait and see. I’m most optimistic abotu Keith Johnson
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| 1:11 |
: Any ideas for a new cats name? I told my wife our next one is going to be Yoshinobu Yamamoto just because it’s so fun to say and I’m mostly looking forward to the Vet’s face when they hear it.
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| 1:11 |
: I think Pet names are a personal thing!
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| 1:11 |
: On that note, I have the next team ZiPS to finish for publication, so it’s time to go!
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| 1:11 |
: I’ll see you all next time
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.