Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 12/30/13
11:56 |
: You know what I hate? When sportswriters are seen as the bottom of the writing pyramid, slack-jawed mouth-breathers too stupid to do anything else with their lives.
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11:56 |
: You know what I hate more? When the BBWAA voting members do their very best to prove them right.
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11:57 |
: Welcome to today’s edition of the Very Angry Zim chat.
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11:58 |
Do you have Zips by you ATM? Curious what Zorilla’s defense looks like at other positions in +/- terms |
11:58 |
: I don’t, windows is updating there.
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11:58 |
Every year ZiPS predicts Ben Rever will hit a HR and I laugh. Can you go into the process that leads to such a crazy projection? If he’s “rounding up to 1” is he slowly dropping from 0.8 HR to 0.6 HR or something? |
11:58 |
: I don’t keep the decimal places, so I’m not really sure.
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11:58 |
Also, to get more clicks for your upcoming articles, what zips can we expect the rest of this week? |
11:59 |
: Detroit Friday.
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11:59 |
Does Alex Rios (+ ___) for Homer Bailey (+ ___) make sense for both teams? CIN needs OF help and TEX has injury risks in the rotation. |
11:59 |
: As always, depends on how the + is.
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11:59 |
ZiPS seems very bullish on Alex Guerrero. What elements suggest that level of production? |
12:00 |
: Cuban stats take a very severe translation, but he still comes out looking decently. Sadly, we don’t have a bigger sample.
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12:00 |
How would you fix the Reds outfield for next year? |
12:00 |
: At this point, I’m not sure they can really do anything.
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12:01 |
: Most likely they’d need a trade, probably get an outfielder for Homer Bailey (as noted above)
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12:01 |
Steamer and Oliver have vastly different projections for Billy Hamilton. Which one do you lean towards? |
12:02 |
: The difference seems to mostly be defense, so it’ shar dto say. ZiPS is somewhere int he middle there.
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12:02 |
Matt Moore of T-Bay. Fair to compare his command issues to Burnett and Beckett in early years ? Or does the much discussed velocity loss put him in a different bucket ? |
12:03 |
: I’m not *too* alarmed by the velocity loss yet, we’ll see in 2014 what his velocity is. His command issues are concerning and put a limit on his ceiling.
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12:03 |
Can this just be a “quote lou whitaker’s stats” session. Cause I love me some Lou. |
12:03 |
Bottom line–is he a buy or sell ? |
12:04 |
: I can’t answer a question that rigid! It always depends on the circumstances.
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12:04 |
Matt Holliday hits the living crap out of baseballs. As a result, his babip is higher than the average baseball player. Please pass this along to ZIPS so it can stop being wrong all the time. |
12:05 |
What does ZiPS think of Dan Shaughnessy’s HOF ballot? |
12:06 |
: ZiPS has no judgment. I’ve certainly had a lot to say.
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12:06 |
Think there’s a chance only Maddux is inducted this year? |
12:07 |
: I think Glavine’s in too. As of right now, Repoz’s HoF Ballot Collecting Gizmo has 67 full ballots, Maddux 100%, Glavine 98.5%, Thomas 88.1%, Biggio 82.1%, Piazza 71.6%, Morris 65.7%.
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12:07 |
: As a whole, the public ballots tend to be slightly less stupid, so I think it’s pointing to a Maddux, Glavine, Morris induction, with Thomas maybe 50/50 and Biggio maybe 30/70.
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12:07 |
There’s some guy on Fangraphs that seems on edge about HoF ballots. What should I do to push him over the edge into the maw of madness? |
12:08 |
: Dunno, but given my history, it’s not a difficult push.
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12:08 |
It sounds crazy, but should the Astros go all-in for Tanaka? They have $ to spend, he’s young, and they could set up a Tanaka-Rodon-Appel top 3 by 2016. |
12:08 |
: I wouldn’t. There will be future opportunities to do this kind of thing when the team’s closer. If we were talking *Darvish* that would be one thing, but I don’t think Tanaka will be near Darvish’s class.
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12:08 |
Is Tanaka’s work load at a young age at all concerning in terms of his future durability? |
12:09 |
: That’s kind of difficult as usage is a little different in NPB than it is here.
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12:09 |
Can you make it so that Greg Schiano manages the Marlins this year? Thanks in advance, Dan. |
12:09 |
: That’s kind of cruel, no?
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12:10 |
cruel to who, though? |
12:10 |
: The Marlins fan?
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12:11 |
Hey! From the racks and stacks, it’s the best on wax! How ’bout another double-golden-oldie-twin-spin-sound-sandwich from Z-I-P-S in Portland? Iiiiiiit’s…DAN! |
12:12 |
I have Ian Desmond locked up for $25 for 2014 if I want to keep him. With a dearth of SS with power/speed, I am considering keeping him, but I fear he may go for around $20 in the auction if I let him go, making me a huge verbal dartboard in my league. |
12:12 |
: It’s hard to say – I’m not sure what else is available in your league. It may be smart to overpay a little unless your team is really solid elsewhere.
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12:13 |
Of the things that went right for the Blue Jays in 2013, which ones won’t recur in 2014? |
12:14 |
: Rasmus won’t be as good. Lind won’t be close to as good.
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12:14 |
Thanks for the chat, Dan! Quick diversion from HoF ballot craziness: are those wOBA calculations for the ZiPS articles park-adjusted? |
12:15 |
: wOBA on FG is never park-adjusted, unless they’ve made a recent change.
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12:16 |
How much of Cano’s $240M will he actually get after taxes, paying his agent, and any other reductions? With a salary that large, does it get taxed like when you win the lottery? |
12:16 |
: Enough that he should at least have enough to take his family out for a fancy dinner.
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12:16 |
top 5 players you think zips is the most optimistic and the most pessimistic on? |
12:16 |
: Too early.
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12:16 |
if Jack Morris gets in, would the better option be 1. someone starting a rival “REAL” HOF that will more accurately ascribe value or 2. try to remedy the current system moving forward and leaving the current current members? For the record, I say #1 even though they wouldn’t have the artifacts/be officially sanctioned |
12:17 |
: Try to remedy. A rival real HOF would be a very expensive undertaking.
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12:17 |
: Remedy the process so that great players get in. Let Morris be a punchline in the future.
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12:17 |
So uh, how about that HoF voting? |
12:17 |
: ZIM SMASH!!!!!!!!!!!11111oneoneone
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12:18 |
Desmond Jennings steals 27 bags this year?!?!?!?! |
12:19 | : FATALERROR #385A USER NOT ASKING QUESTION IN FORM OF A QUESTION CAUSED A KERNEL PROTECTION FAULT IN |
12:19 |
I just want to say that I’m very pleased that the ballot gizmo is showing that Frank Thomas might get in, at least. |
12:21 |
When do the Nats zips come out? |
12:21 |
: nats are one of the last teams to go.
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12:23 |
Which TF2 weapon best represents the BBWAA on HOF matters? Short Circuit? |
12:23 |
: Tomislav. It used to be a non-terrible idea, but it was nerfed and worthless now.
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12:23 |
Why didn’t I get an projection.? |
12:23 |
: Always some guysa re missed – Cooney’s likely to have one by final.
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12:24 |
i always have questions to ask when a chat is not going on. and now i cannot think of them. |
12:24 |
: That’s why St. Peter invented Twitter in 45 A.D.
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12:24 |
Is 5 years too short of time span for Hall eligibility? Would maybe a few more years give a better perspective? I know it doesn’t change performance, but maybe gives these guys who vote on “feel” more time to…I don’t know…feel? |
12:24 |
: If they can’t be bothered to think in 5 years, they probably can’t be bothered to think in 10 years.
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12:25 |
: I’d be in favor of *reducing* the time after reforming the voter base.
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12:25 |
: I see no benefit for making poor Mike Mussina have to wait even longer to hear the judgment of idiots.
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12:25 |
Have you tried challenging the BBWAA to an arm-wrestling match yet? Winner gets to fill out the loser’s ballot. |
12:26 |
: Do they all go against me at once or do I challenge them gauntlet/black ninja style?
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12:26 |
: I believe I would do well – I can still do some chinups and I’m a big fat dude. I still have strong arms.
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12:27 |
: Though I don’t do a lot of arm-wrestling, so I’m not sure if there’s specific strategy, tactics involved.
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12:27 |
you guys need to ask zim calming questions. his shift key must be damn near worn out by now. dan, what are your thoughts on fish lazily swimming in a koi pond on a mild summer day? |
12:27 |
: Are you supposed to swim in a koi pond?
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12:27 |
: I prefer rivers. Moving water is way cooler!
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12:27 |
: and oceans. Waves are fun.
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12:28 |
Who have been the top 5 defensive projections you have seen so far? I assume Machado and Simmons are 1 and 2. |
12:28 |
: *Of the teams I’ve done*, the top 5 so far (for their respective positions) are Simmons, Machado, Heyward, Victorino, Uribe.
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12:28 |
: But keep in mind I have 503 offensive projections and that usually ends up between 1000 and 1100.
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12:29 |
Words are transitory. Please communicate your feelings to us through the universal medium of MS-PAINT. |
12:31 |
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12:31 |
You probably have answered this before and they are a competitor of yours but what are your feelings on FRAA from BR as a defensive metric? |
12:32 |
: I think it throws out the value of zone-based metrics.
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12:32 |
Is Piazza HOF? |
12:32 |
: Ought to be, easily.
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12:32 |
Think Kenny Lofton has a shot this year? One of the best all-around players of … oh, wait, nevermind. |
12:33 |
: Heh, when I saw the start of the Q, I assumed I was going to have to give you some bad news.
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12:33 |
You still have time to call out all the ballots in the form of GoldenEye weapons. A+ = Golden Gun. F = Klobb. Chass Murray = Oddjob blowing himself up on his own proximity mines |
12:33 |
: Chass would not be Oddjob. Oddjob was hard to kill because of his height.
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12:33 |
: We had a rule that you could not play as Oddjob or Moonraker Elite #2.
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12:33 |
: Chass is more Jaws.
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12:33 |
Best reform to HOF voter base? |
12:34 |
: A second Committee that cleans up the mess of players not inducted.
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12:35 |
: Close second – smallpox released at Morris Induction After Party.
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12:35 |
Can you give me any sort of argument that results in Jack Morris being more worthy of the HOF than Schilling? Even by old school things like “clutch performances” and “feeling like an ace” he qualifies. I just don’t get it. |
12:35 |
: No.
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12:35 |
: Well, I guess you could say “Morris is more worthy of the Hall of Fame because I’m a giant idiot” but I don’t think that’s quite what you have in mind.
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12:35 |
Who would be on your HOF ballot, if you had one (assuming no limit)? |
12:36 |
: Clemens, Bonds, Maddux, Bagwell, Glavine, Mussina, Schilling, Thomas, Trammell, Walker, Edgar, Raines, Biggio, Palmeiro, Pizza, McGwire, Kent, Sosa. 50/50 on McGriff.
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12:37 |
: Though I may have missed someone of f the top of my head – that should be 18 guys and McGriff.
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12:37 |
My team has 2 very good starting pitchers who are 2 years before their first free agency – Fister and Zimmermann. Can you think of some instances where a pitcher made it to the last two years before his first free agency, did not sign a deal that locked him up for those two years and his first few years of FA, and regretted it (e.g., got hurt or dropped off significantly in performance)? |
12:38 |
: Off hand, no, but I’m sure they are out there. That’s the kind of sit-down-and-consider question
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12:38 |
Would you rather have Jeff Francouer (age 29) as the Orioles RF in 2014, or Minnie Minoso (age 88)? |
12:38 |
: Minoso. At 88, he’d likely be injured enough to keep him out of the lineup
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12:38 |
Why cant projection systems allow for the fact that Trout might actually have that high of a BABIP? |
12:38 |
: They do. They reflect that he *might* have that high a BABIP.
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12:39 |
If every player in the majors retired this year, who would be deserving of your hall of fame vote? |
12:39 |
: You mean just these guys, right?
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12:39 |
: Not Bonds/Clemens/Maddux?
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12:41 |
: A-Rod, Pujols, Halladay (he is retiring this year technically!), Jeter, Pettitte, Beltran, Utley, Beltre, Cabrera, Suzuki, Rivera,
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12:41 |
What places and toppings make your Pizza HoF? |
12:41 |
: Cheese. Only indie pizza.
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12:41 |
What is being learned here today? |
12:41 |
: The depravity of postironic humanity.
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12:42 |
I played goldeneye the other night and would like to point out that anyone who makes you play remote mines on stack is actually worse than Murray Chass |
12:42 |
: Back in college, we used to go through cases of beer, tons of pot, and hundreds of dollar in bets on Goldeneye Weekends.
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12:42 |
: I once net $600 by winning an *8 hour* proximity mine in battle.
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12:43 |
Does Machado see some time at SS this year? |
12:43 |
: No
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12:43 |
Depth charts has the Yankees at 79-83. How are you going to explain their 85+ win season come october? |
12:44 |
: How would I know? I don’t know what happened or if their projection is even 79 wins yet.
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12:44 |
we should just have a BBWAAWAA that votes on who gets to be on the BBWAA in the first place. Then we get to forever banish Chass from the internet after he fails to get 5% on the first ballot |
12:44 |
Aren’t Morris and Stieb pretty much the same guy? |
12:45 |
: No. Morris had better attendance. Stieb was much better at preventing the other team from scoring runs.
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12:45 |
Pizza is definitely in my HOF, although it’s less inspiring since I gave up eating meat. |
12:45 |
What’s your take on Dave’s percentile approach to the hall of fame? While I appreciate the point he’s making and agree that too few are getting through, I don’t know that there should be a set percentage. |
12:45 |
: Not a set percentage, but it should be a guideline. If the percentages aren’t matching up previous percentages, something done broke.
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12:45 |
Here is my problem with HOF. Pete Rose and Barry Bonds both have tons of stuff at the HOF, just they are not enshrined. If you want to leave them out, leave them out entirely. |
12:45 |
: But problem is that you have a *lot* of stuff on non-HOFers.
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12:46 |
: Like no-hit balls.
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12:46 |
Do you accept the reverse steroid argument, as in, a player did well in the steroid era without any known PED usage? (McGriff) |
12:46 |
: No. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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12:47 |
: No player since Dianabol was introduced in the late 1950s should be considered clean of steroids without testing and no player since WWII should be considered clean of amphetamines without testing.
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12:47 |
: It’s an unknown, not that I particularly care given the somewhat arbitrary Reefer Madness-esque manner in which drugs are separated into “legitimate” and “illegitimate” categories.
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12:47 |
Why is the Frank Thomas vote even close? |
12:48 |
: The education system has failed our youth for decades.
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12:48 |
Forget about Piazza, let’s talk about pizza! What kind of topping does the ol’ Zim prefer? I’m a pepperoni and banana peppers sort of fellow. |
12:48 |
: Cheese.
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12:48 |
What happened to Mark Reynolds’ power? It seems weird that he’s not striking out or walking more but the power dried up in what should be his prime at 29. |
12:48 |
: His swing’s actually cut down a little. That kind of thing never seems to work.
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12:49 |
: For pitcher either. I remember when the Orioles tried to fix high K/high BB Cabrera by having him dial it back. Which resulted in a low K/high BB Cabrera
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12:49 |
No HoF for Johan Santana? |
12:49 |
: Borderline.
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12:49 |
: On peak.
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12:50 |
: I’m not quite sure his peak is *quite* good enough without a little more mass to his career.
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12:50 |
What is the Piazza HOF argument? |
12:51 |
: That he’s the best hitting catcher in baseball history and his defensive struggles have been greatly overrated.
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12:51 |
Are you a fan of the new posting system? Will this attempt for parity eventually give way to a salary cap? |
12:51 |
: Not really. Less of an incentive for teams to let their talent come here.
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12:52 |
Could Nelson Cruz sign after the draft? |
12:52 |
: No, he signs before then.
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12:52 |
I had a group of people that refused to play Goldeneye with me if grenade launchers were in the game. I got pretty good at banking them around corners. |
12:52 |
Has anyone noticed that the Oliver defensive projections don’t make any sense? For example, Coco Crisp being +15 in CF? |
12:52 |
: Some have looked a little weird but given that ZiPS does technically compete with Oliver, I don’t think it’s may place to question Brian.
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12:53 |
What is the baseball equivalent of getting hit by a blue shell in mario kart? |
12:53 |
: Kershaw. You know the curve’s coming, you know you’re going to try to swing at it no matter how insistent you are that you will not, you know you’re going to miss it.
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12:54 |
Who was better, Jack Morris or Joe Magrane? |
12:55 |
: Well, Morris. Morris would be deserving of a J.M. Hall of Fame induction. I guess along with Joe Mauer, Jim Maloney, Jeff Manto, John Mayberry, etc.
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12:55 |
I found Dan Farnsworth’s article on J.D. Martinez interesting, but he wasn’t taken in the Rule 5 draft. Are you similarly optimistic on his future? |
12:56 |
: Haven’t read it yet. I’m not optimistic.
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12:56 |
Apologies if this has been explained but how do you decide the order that ZIPS projections are released? |
12:56 |
: Last year’s order flipped, except a few teams that got “promoted” due to Twitter trivia.
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12:56 |
: Every other year, the order is set by random number.
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12:57 |
Is there a comparable pitcher to Fred McGriff |
12:57 |
: Depends what you mean. If you mean epitome of 50/50 candidate that you could go either way on, the pitching equivalent for me would be Tommy John.
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12:57 |
Why is batted ball data so dramatically different between sources – say, between FG and BR? For example, David Ortiz has a GB/FB ratio of 1.00 and 0.67, respectively and I get a different ratio from those using Retrosheets data. |
12:57 |
: Sometimes it’s definitional.
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12:58 |
Where do I find your chats on ESPN? |
12:58 |
: I’m an event chatter there – I chat on all the announcement events, playoffs, WS, etc.
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12:59 |
: It hasn’t come up, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t have me on the HoF announcement one as there’s a good chance that I’ll go ballistic at the results.
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1:00 |
: I’m not exactly a calming influence once I’ve been wound up about something.
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1:00 |
Will Mike Mussina get screwed out of the hall? Dude is massively underrated. Much better candidate than Glavine. |
1:01 |
: What really gets me mad is the Morris no Mussina ballots.
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1:02 |
: Morris isn’t just worthy of carrying Mussina’s jockstrap, he’s unworthy of holding a paper reporting a rumor of the location to a map that holds a book with the name of the country that has a PC that contains the possible location of a picture of Mussina’s jockstrap.
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1:02 |
How is Olney as a guy? I feel like I’d like him |
1:02 |
: He’s actually one of the guys I don’t know very well.
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1:04 |
: People like him though. There’s a very collegial atmosphere, at least among the writers, TV guys, etc. I’ve been working for ESPN for nearly 4 years now and there still hasn’t been a single instance in which I’ve felt unwelcome or any kind of friction.
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1:04 |
Do you think having better framing numbers would have hurt Piazza more? He seemed like a bad defensive catcher but other than base stealing numbers we had little way to quantify that. |
1:05 |
: Piazza was a very hard worker behind the plate – I’m not so sure that his framing numbers *would* be bad.
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1:05 |
You are an idiot. The hall has a lot of stuff from Rose and Bonds. You know like bats, balls, uniforms. |
1:05 |
: wait, what?
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1:05 |
Dan I love your chats…..but my wife gets a little nervous walking by and seeing some game ad saying “play for free” game featuring make believe girls that would make Playboy nervous….any way to stop that? Please keep up the good work. |
1:05 |
: I have no idea how the ads are determined and even if I did, I’m not a decision maker at FanGraphs.
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1:06 |
isn’t getting upset about Baseball HOM kind of like being upset about Rock and Roll HOF ? Paul Allen built EMP as an alternative to R & R. How does he feel about baseball ? It’s worth a shot. |
1:07 |
: A Hall of Fame induction is the current highest honor a baseball player can earn. I love baseball and also get my salary from writing about baseball. I want that honor to mean as much as possible. When unworthy players get the award and worthy players don’t, it makes that honor less significant.
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1:07 |
Why on Earth would Rakuten agree not to accept payola from Tanaka? This new rule screwed them, and they don’t owe anything to Bud Selig. |
1:07 |
: It’s in NPB’s interests that MLB honors NPB’s reserve clause.
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1:08 |
Goldeneye and Mario Kart ruined my academic career. Nice to see that they still have the same effect at work. |
1:08 |
: I was a mediocre student and I turned out OK.
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1:08 |
Oddjob sucks if auto-aim is on. Lots of headshots that would hit torso of any other player. |
1:09 |
: But even if auto-aim is off, manual aim is harder when you’re used toa different height for all the other characters.
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1:09 |
Sorry, my McGriff question got cut off. I meant a really solid accumulator whose peak is not very high but was quite good for quite a while. |
1:09 |
: John’s still not bad then.
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1:09 |
Oh, wow – what a fantastic spectacle it would be to have you as part of the HoF announcement chat. The other participants will be telling their grandchildren about it years from now. |
1:09 |
: But I also like being employed.
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1:09 |
: If I have a nervous breakdown in the middle of a live chat, I can’t imagine that’s a great career-move.
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1:10 |
Which is a harder concept for most fans to grasp: (1) regression to the mean; or (2) BABIP? |
1:10 |
: regression
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1:10 |
Is there an argument against Curt Schilling HOF that isn’t, y’know, full of stupid? |
1:11 |
: Not really. You can argue against him for a personal Hall of Fame that has about 20-30 pitchers, but the case against him being in the real Hall of Fame is terrible.
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1:11 |
Why is Fangraph’s minor league FIP always calculated with a 3.2 constant instead of changing it so that the league FIP matches the league ERA? |
1:11 |
: I think mostly becuase FG doens’t really put a lot of emphasis on minor league data.
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1:12 |
Does ZiPS use velocity for pitchers as an input variable? |
1:12 |
: Yes
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1:12 |
Would you ever wear a bowtie? |
1:12 |
: Maybe. Bowties aren’t great on fat guys unless you’re going to go *really* over the top.
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1:12 |
Do people at ESPN ever ask you to explain advanced statistic concepts to them? Or try to argue against them or anything like that? |
1:13 |
: The former sometimes, the latter not really.
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1:14 |
Do you ever feel bad about ripping Morris? It’s writers that you should rip… not him as a person |
1:14 |
: I’ve only ripped Morris as a player. But, he’s also been vocal in favor of his case, so that would make him fair game.
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1:15 |
Who doesnt belong in the HOF that is currently inducted? |
1:16 |
: Schalk, Hunter, Perez, Kelly, McCarthy, Lloyd Waner, Marquard, Haines, Schoendienst, Rizzuto (etc)
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1:16 |
Bkgeneral got your argument completely backwards. |
1:16 |
meanwhile, my ads are advising me to buy an AutoCAD program for $$3932 (not a typo, they actually used two $ signs) |
1:17 |
: $$ means squared dollars I think so that’s what, 15 million or thereabouts?
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1:17 |
: I think you can get an autoCAD program for less than that, though I’m not an expert.
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1:17 |
When does the Blue Jays ZiPS Projections come out? |
1:17 |
: Blue Jays are likely an end-of-January team.
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1:18 |
: A few more and then time to go. This is your last chance for random ridiculous Qs!
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1:18 |
RE: The cartoon sexy girls auto-play video… set your browser to not play videos automatically. I just did this at work. |
1:18 |
: While i’m not sure what ad you’re referring to, cartoon sexy girls sounds like a terrific ad.
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1:18 |
Custom DanGraph: http://www.fangraphs.com/graphsw.aspx?players=293,1010897 |
1:19 |
: Rice was borderline for me too. I think I would have erred in not putting him in, but unlike Morris, Rice *did* have a real peak.
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1:19 |
If your wife is worried about a video game ad, I think there may be other issues at a fundamental level. But, I’m glad you like my pixels. |
1:19 |
FWIW, I think the ads are user generated. Mine are mostly Amazon and Disney. |
1:19 |
: So then, if you have cartoon sexy girls ads, it’s because you’ve expressed a like for sites dealing in cartoon sexy girls!
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1:19 |
Let’s say Kershaw gets $250MM and blows out his shoulder and never pitches during that contract. Does that change baseball free agency at all, or would it just be a blip? |
1:19 |
: Blip. Teams want players and risk is always factored into the price.
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1:21 |
: If you had a pitcher that was *guaranteed* to be worth exactly 5 WAR a year next 10 years, no more, no less, then that contract should be 10/350 or so on the market.
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1:21 |
Next year, does Youkilis get posted? |
1:21 |
: YOukilis wouldn’t be part of the posting system, as far as I can tell.
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1:21 |
I would love to see you in the HOF chat because the followup piece from the ombudsman would be a gem |
1:21 |
i would have liked to read you on twitter when it was decided that the hall of fame would be in cooperstown since that was “the birthplace of baseball” |
1:22 |
: AAAUUUGHH ZIM SMASH
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1:22 |
What’s your opinion of Deadspin buying a HOF vote? |
1:22 |
: the deadspin readers will do a better job than the average BBWAA member.
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1:22 |
Favorite multiplayer level? I like stack and facility. |
1:22 |
: Bunker.
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1:23 |
Jayson Stark seems like a fun guy. True? |
1:23 |
: He seems like a cool guys.
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1:23 |
You could go for the Jonah Hill in Wolf of Wall St. look if you wore a bowtie |
1:23 |
There’s nothing that subtly mocks a person’s formal gathering quite like a bow tie. “You say you want me to take you seriously, this bow tie says otherwise.” |
1:24 |
: I hate dressing up.
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1:24 |
Is the zips PC rebotted yet, re: Zobrists extra-2b D? |
1:24 |
: Yeah, but I’d have to think about it.
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1:24 |
Hahahahahahaha, you fools! |
1:24 |
Odd Job did end up taking direct headshots fairly often, though |
1:24 |
I placed my own argument. IF you are okay have artifacts from Bonds or Rose, you should be okay with enshrining them. |
1:25 |
: I’m still confused then – why were you so mad at me earlier?
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1:25 |
Perfect Dark better than Goldeneye? |
1:25 |
: If released at same time, yes, but at that point, the engine was kind of played out.
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1:25 |
: Though we did still play a lot of it, not as much as Goldeneye
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1:25 |
Xbox one, PS4, or neither as you’re more of a PC gamer? |
1:26 |
: I’ll probably have a PS4 by the spring because MLB The Show. Unless the PC version is atrocious, I will always choose the PC version over teh console version.l
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1:26 |
Man, you know what I could go for right now? MS-PAINT sexy girls. Aw yeah. |
1:26 |
: I can barely draw things that are recognized as people.
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1:26 |
you are starting a detroit tigers hall of fame. Does verlander go in before Morris? |
1:26 |
: Yes
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1:26 |
Will the Orioles be better or worse (true talent) in 2014 than 2013? |
1:26 |
: Worse.
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1:26 |
Who is your go-to character in Super Smash Bros? |
1:27 |
: Honestly, haven’t played much.
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1:27 |
One player you are still surprised to find is in the Hall of Fame. Mine would be Don Sutton |
1:27 |
: Ned Hanlon maybe?
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1:27 |
I missed out on GoldenEye, but OddJob sounds a lot like King Hippo. |
1:28 |
Is this the most frustrating offseason for you as an Orioles fan ever? I’m frustrated and I am completely indifferent towards them. |
1:28 |
: It’s very frustrating. It’s one thing for them to be sad and pathetic when the team’s sad and pathetic anyway, but another when the team’s actually decent.
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1:29 |
: Most frustrating O’s offseason for me since after the 1997 season.
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1:30 |
: They signed Doug Drabek, Joe Carter, and Norm Charlton all within like a week
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1:30 |
Steamer really high on George Springer. What say ZIPS? |
1:30 |
: High
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1:31 |
I had the random thought that maybe the Orioles have been holding out to make a play for Tanaka, but I hesitate to give them that much credit. |
1:31 |
: Oh, they’re not.
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1:31 |
: Duquette already told Roch Kubatko that Tanaka wasn’t in play weeks ago.
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1:31 |
: O’s are so fucking lazy that they can’t even be bothered to feign interest in top players.
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1:31 |
Surprised by Don Sutton? 85.8 WAR, 5282 IP, career 3.24 FIP, 300 win, 3000 strikouts, nice guy, broadcaster for Braves and Dodgers |
1:32 |
: And on that note, time to end the chat for this week!
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1:32 |
: Thanks for joining me as always.!
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Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.
My team has 2 very good starting pitchers who are 2 years before their first free agency – Fister and Zimmermann. Can you think of some instances where a pitcher made it to the last two years before his first free agency, did not sign a deal that locked him up for those two years and his first few years of FA, and regretted it (e.g., got hurt or dropped off significantly in performance)?