Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 2/11/19
12:00 |
: The ancient prophecy that was foretold, about a chat coming at noon has now come to pass.
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12:00 |
: Can you explain the frank Thomas comp for Tyler white in your recent ZiPS projections?
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12:00 |
: There are two Frank Thomases of note in history.
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12:00 |
: One is FRANK THOMAS
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12:00 |
: the other is Frank Thomas.
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12:01 |
: rather than use all caps, for the purpose of ZiPS comps, Frank Thomas is Not That Frank Thomas
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12:01 |
: You think White Sox are favorites to land machado or do you see them as long shots seeing that they’ve never signed a marque free agent in the past and are also coming off a 100 loss season
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12:01 |
: They have a chance and it wouldn’t come down to history, but someone giving them more money.
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12:01 |
: What are the chances that Harper and/or Machado hold out till Opening Day?
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12:01 |
: Very slim.
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12:01 |
: What are you getting me for Valentine’s Day?
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12:01 |
: Nothing
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12:01 |
: You should really move your chat to like…11:15, so I can run and grab lunch quick.
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12:03 |
: Was Mike Tyson getting knocked out by Buster Douglas a big deal wherever you were when it happened?
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12:03 |
: Probably asleep. It was a Sunday and I was in 6th grade in 2/90.
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12:03 |
: For2020, if you had to guess if Nolan Arenado is playing for the Rockies or the field. Who do you take?
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12:03 |
: Rockies
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12:04 |
: If the idea of a limit to the number of pitchers on a teams roster is implemented, will that put an end to the growing practice of position players doing mop up work?
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12:04 |
: No, and I don’t think doing that is a pressing issue.
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12:04 |
: In fact, you might see more of that in blowouts
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12:04 |
: It’s me, the Chinese knock-off Teddy Ruxpin, here to tell you a tale of cheap vodka and a ruined pair of polyester slacks….
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12:04 |
: Good Monday Dan. Is Yasmani Grandal looking to be a top tier catcher this year? Saw the ZIPS for Brewers…that ballpark and others in the central division alone help out don’t they? There goes the -.92R^2 for the chat right off the bat.
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12:04 |
: He was a top tier catcher last year and there’s no reason to think that’s changed.
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12:04 |
: Could you name three possible break out candidates that go against the grain of your prediction model.
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12:05 |
: Stay tuned – that’s one of my yearly conceits!
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12:05 |
: When will the perception of padres baseball not be a joke?
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12:05 |
: I don’t think it’s a joke now. People know they have an excellent farm system.
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12:05 |
: Have both Vlad Jr & Andujar on my keepers for this year – is Alex Reyes a good return value for unloading Andujar or should I be looking for more?
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12:05 |
: I think given the uncertainty around Reyes and teh fact in fantasy, yo udon’t have to worry about ANdjuar’s defense, it’s too light
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12:05 |
: Lack of Isaac Paredes projection with Tigers was an oversight right?
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12:05 |
: Yeah, he already has a projection in the system waiting.
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12:06 |
: How disappointed should I be that the Padres made the right decision in not pushing more chips in the middle this season?
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12:06 |
: You shoudln’t be. Pushing more chips in the middle right now is for a big score, a Harper or a Machado. Everything else is garnish.
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12:06 |
: This century, Barry Bonds, A-Rod, Pujols, and Miggy have all had periods as the consensus best player in the game. Who do you think will eventually take that title from Trout and how many years away is that?
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12:06 |
: Person’s probably in high school now.
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12:07 |
: Dan, Bryce Harper just signed with the Blue Jays for less guaranteed ?? than Stanton. What are the first six words of your reaction?
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12:07 |
: You let the Jays outbid you?
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12:07 |
: Ibsen Dana Elcar played Colonel Thomas A. Lard in the Baa Baa Black Sheep TV Series from 1976-1978 before he was in McGyver. Back to -.92R^2.
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12:08 |
: MacGyver had a first season episode called Trumbo’s World which amuses me now because I think of Mark Trumbo. The episode featured them fighting a horde of self-aware ants. Imaging Mark Trumbo fighting ants amuses me even more.
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12:08 |
: Giants reportedly offering Harper a high AAV/short term deal. But what contender wouldn’t sign Harper for 3yr/$125mm? He’s not going to bite on anything like that, is he?
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12:09 |
: It’s an awkward amount of years for Harper to take.
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12:09 |
: why does ZiPS love Moustakas so much? Projection was nuts
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12:09 |
: ZiPS thinks his line should have been a lot better in 2018 than it actually was
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12:11 |
: Any recommendations for a music lover who’d like to check out some classical? I like darkness and dissonance and most of the stuff on the Clockwork Orange soundtrack.
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12:11 |
: Rite of Spring
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12:12 |
: It’s not that dissonant, but for darkness, Liszt’s Totentanz for piano and orchestra
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12:13 |
: For bleakness, try an Allan Petterson symphony
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12:13 |
: pettersson
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12:14 |
The deal makes him better now and worse in the future, but his team is uber far away from contending and Hendricks doesn’t dent the huge gap he needs to make up. He doesn’t understand his team’s position and the way the market works. The commish thinks nothing is wrong with this. How do you reason with this? |
12:14 |
: Doesn’t your league have a veto rule? It should
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12:14 |
: Is it smart of me to keep Harper at $29, or 20% of my budget? If I do am I destined for my usual place in the cellar?
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12:14 |
: 20% of your budget? That’s a little rich for me
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12:16 |
: Oh, and previous classical music user, you can DM me on twitter for more and better detailed recommendations.
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12:16 |
: Do you think the late season success of Amed Rosario and Reynaldo Lopez were just hot streaks or a sign of things to come in 2019?
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12:16 |
: I’m very optimistic about Rosario
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12:18 |
: Less so on Lopez. I think he’ll be OK, and his K rate improved IIRC, but unless I’m mistaken, he had a big BABIP improvement too that probably isn’t maintainable
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12:18 |
: Are the mariners really going to cut vogelbach?
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12:18 |
: Or trade. I don’t think they have a plan to use him.
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12:20 |
: Once the season was pretty much over, there was little reason to not see what they had
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12:20 |
: It’s not like Healy was good
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12:21 |
: After April, eh didn’t really resurface to get starts until the last few days
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12:21 |
: were white sox fans more annoying when you got 1000000000 jose quintana trade offers per chat or now when they are asking when machado/harper will sign and for how much?
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12:22 |
: I haven’t had an issue with White Sox fans
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12:22 |
: The most annoying is the Nick Markakis trolling.
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12:22 |
: Do you think Senzel starts from day 1 or they wait until the end of April? SErvice time games stink…
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12:22 |
: Oh, they’ll play games with him, I’m sure
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12:22 |
: I’m not 100% positive the Reds even realize Matt Kemps tinks
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12:23 |
: Are the Reds going to be able to participate fully in the international free agency market in 2019?
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12:23 |
: If I’m not mistaken — I could be — last year was their second year of the two-year penalty
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12:24 |
: What would be the most appropriate way for the Dodgers to finally honor Glenn Burke when they choose to do so?
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12:25 |
: I’m not sure what the best *way* to honor him is, though it would be nice if they did eventually
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12:25 |
: I wouldn’t think they’d do it with Lasorda still living. Teams don’t like awkward controversy.
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12:25 |
: ZIPS ‘regressed’ Bregman to ‘only’ 5.2 WAR. What’s the usual aging curve for 24 year old all-stars? His BB:K ratio last year was elite. Usually that doesn’t flip back hard the other way. What’s the upside projection for Bregman?
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12:26 |
: Depends on the percentile you’re looking for! I don’t have ZiPS on this laptop though
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12:26 |
: has the reliever build changed in this year’s ZiPS? Feels like there aren’t nearly as many obscure minor leaguers with mid-70 to low-80 ERA- projections
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12:26 |
: Not particularly, there are always some well projected minor league relievers.
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12:26 |
: ZiPS is better equipped to deal with minor league BABIP though after years of harvesting some interesting data.
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12:28 |
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12:29 |
: 10 players you forgot were orioles, go!
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12:29 |
: The 2018 roster if I drink enough
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12:29 |
: (It’s hard for me to forget an Oriole)
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12:29 |
: Though from a history standpiont, Reggie Jackson, Oriole has mostly been forgotten
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12:30 |
: And it wasn’t like a PIazza stint, Reggie was an O for an entire year
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12:30 |
: Hello Dan can we make this chat all about Brett Lawrie thanks in advance
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12:30 |
: heh
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12:31 |
: Which teams do you see possibly using an opener approach this year?
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12:31 |
: Mostly teams with better bullpens and weaker or question-mark laden rotations
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12:31 |
: Look for teams with progressive front offices too
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12:31 |
: So without specifically doing any investigative reporting, it owuldn’t surprise me to see the A’s and O’s do more
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12:32 |
: Is Yu Darvish done as a front line starter?
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12:32 |
: Too soon to say that
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12:32 |
: If you were able to send refreshments, which refreshments would you serve?
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12:32 |
: Beer
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12:32 |
: What are some telltale signs that someone is a serial killer other than pouring milk then cereal and eating pizza crust first
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12:32 |
: A lot of duct tape and zip ties in their trunk?
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12:32 |
: Will the Harper/Machado contracts come with an opt-out in the first two years?
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12:32 |
: I expect an opt out
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12:32 |
: David Dahl this season – thoughts?
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12:32 |
: I think he’ll be average+
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12:32 |
: Assuming they can afford only one, who should the Stros extend – Verlander or Cole?
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12:33 |
: Cole, he’s got more tread on his tires
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12:33 |
: over/under on BOTH machado and harper signing deals: Feb 20 where are you?
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12:33 |
: Harper before 20th, Machado before 3/1
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12:33 |
: What position(s) are you happy to sit back on and wait til the later rounds to scoop up your starter?
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12:33 |
: Catcher
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12:33 |
: 3B
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12:33 |
: If Harper remains unsigned by March 1, what are the odds he takes a one-year deal?
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12:34 |
: By March 1? Very long
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12:34 |
: ZiPS seems to like McHugh. Do you feel confident that he will get enough IP in the starting rotation to allow him to reach that value?
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12:34 |
: I think so, ZiPS didn’t project a crazy amount of innings
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12:35 |
: It’s not like he had shoulder surgery and missed 2018; he was in relief, but pitched very well.
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12:35 |
: Yeah, he was injured in 2017 but he came back solidly
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12:35 |
: Think of it as easing him back into the rotation
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12:35 |
: Do you enjoy the current style of strikeout/HR type of baseball today or do you prefer the high contact, low power/K style of yesteryear?
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12:36 |
: Ideally, I wouldn’t want to choose one or another, but see a mix of them.
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12:36 |
: But MLB’s designed in a way such that the former style is objectively better for scoring runs
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12:36 |
: So MLB has the tricky challenge of finding a way to change the incentives.
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12:36 |
: Without grossly changing the game.
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12:37 |
: I’d definitely like to see the ball deadened
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12:38 |
: And a requirement for bat handle thickness
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12:38 |
: Have Braves done enough? Donaldson is great if healthy, but still feels like they’re a 3rd place team in the East right now.
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12:38 |
: I think they have – there wasn’t a lot that was NEEDED
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12:38 |
: now, signing Harper would’ve been great, of course
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12:38 |
: Mark Trumbo would be better at fighting ants that fielding balls in the outfield
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12:39 |
: I hate the Nationals bullpen outside of Doolittle. Change my mind.
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12:39 |
: The back *is* fairly shallow
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12:39 |
: To this point has any one projection really surprised you?
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12:39 |
: ZiPSs aggression on Kyle Tucker for one
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12:40 |
: Why doesnt zips like springer? Also the astros sure dont look nearly as threatening as they did last year
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12:40 |
: I’d hardly call that hate.
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12:40 |
: Cat update please
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12:41 |
: Not sure what any of them are up to right now.
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12:41 |
: Galileo was asking for milk about an hour ago, but haven’t heard from him since
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12:41 |
: I wasn’t invited to a single Alliance of American Football game to perform at halftime. What gives?
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12:41 |
: I’d rather see Randy Levine sing halftime
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12:41 |
: ZIPS is going to like Tatis more than PECOTA right? I can’t get excited for a .199/.243/.372 projection Dan!
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12:41 |
: Yes
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12:41 |
: Is ZiPS projecting the Astros to be even better than last year’s projections?
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12:42 |
: Comes out around the same
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12:42 |
: and you can push it one way or the other depending on assumptions
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12:42 |
: What’s the most hilarious outcome for a Machado sigining? What about Harper?
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12:42 |
: x
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12:43 |
: sorry
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12:43 |
: Harper signing with Nats for exactly the contract they offered him last year
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12:43 |
: Machado signing with a team but after signature, team and Machado all of a sudden have very different opinions of where they’re playing him in the infield
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12:43 |
: Where do you stand on Freddy Peralta? He ever gets quite as much buzz as Burnes or Woodruff.
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12:44 |
: He’s not a very hard tosser, but results in the end tend to rule
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12:44 |
: Do you see Rhys Hoskins taking step forward this year Or is he maxed out?
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12:44 |
: I think he is what he is. Maybe a little bit of improvement given that he no longer has to worry with being put in an awkward place defensively
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12:44 |
: Con: Baseball games take 4 hours
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12:44 |
: Con: Baseball games take 4 hours Pro: Baseball atbats and pitcher changes are done with the fanfare of the WWE……Are you down with this sickness?
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12:45 |
: If only they were done with the fanfare of the WWE!
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12:47 |
: I just want to hear Len Kasper go “that music…that music…BUHGAWD THAT’S PEDRO STROP’S MUSIC”
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12:47 |
: If you permed your hair, you’d have a more than passable Larry Fine look going
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12:47 |
: With a perm, I’d look like how Jonah Hill’s character in Superbad would look in a sequel set 20 years in the future
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12:48 |
: Guys in NGNL are always trying to highjack the league I started and claim my Commishdom from me. Any suggestions as to how to keep them down or at least my greatest threat, a guy they’re calling Qmish?
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12:48 |
: A few public executions to instill fear.
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12:48 |
: Like Michael Scott, you want them to be afraid of how much they love you
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12:48 |
: Making my way through the WWE Network. Ric Flair just sided with HHH to beat RVD at Unforgiven 2002. Forgot how effective heel HHH was.
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12:49 |
: Thoughts on Sixto to the M’s? Any acceleration in his path to MLB?
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12:49 |
: Jerry dipoto WISHES
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12:49 |
: I think they’ll see how he does in the high minors. The team’s bad enough there’s no need to rush him
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12:49 |
: But you still want to see how he actually does
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12:49 |
: Wondering your thoughts on a few guys with great projections but small track records: Nimmo and Bieber. Will they live up to the projections?
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12:50 |
: I’m fairly confident on those
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12:50 |
: Does anything do more to kill a good sandwich than stale bread?
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12:50 |
: You’re forced to eat it at gunpoint? That can make it awkward
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12:52 |
: What’s the album you’ve listened to the most in your life?
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12:52 |
: Hmm, classical music, probably Perahia’s recording of the Schumann piano concerto
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12:53 |
: Modern stuff, probably Nevermind or OK Computer
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12:53 |
: If you could create a player by combining a hitter and pitcher, but the player had to use the letters of both players in his name, what would be your player’s name?
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12:54 |
: oh god, I can’dt think of htat one fast
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12:54 |
: Jeremy’s Iron!
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12:54 |
: what does a minor league gm do? it seems like the pro-level gm makes all their decisions. <insert office space gif here>
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12:55 |
: It’s not a job of that type, minor league GMs are more overseeing normal day-to-day operations
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12:56 |
: what was your take on the service time proposal from the players union. i liked it as every time i see a suggestion there are holes in it. this proposal seemed to reward good young players for their production.
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12:56 |
: It’s at least creative
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12:57 |
: I’m not sure how I feel – the penalties being too high you’d have a incentive to keep players down even longer so they rank lower inthose awards
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12:57 |
: too low and it won’t do anything
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12:58 |
: Just thinking off-the-cuff I’d increase service time for FA to seven years but have all players on 40-man roster get service time
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12:58 |
: I frequently have forgotten about half of the 07/08 Orioles rosters when their birthday’s pop up on Camden Chat
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12:59 |
: Are people overlooking what being in a good hitters park all year will do for Andrew McCutchen? He’s never had a entire season in a good hitters park. SF and PIT were two of the worst.
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12:59 |
: It’ll make his stats better, but won’t necessarily make his actual contribution better
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12:59 |
: With the FA market as such now, why is everyone still saying Trout will basically write his own check? He’s two years out, what if he has an injury or two these next two years. He could be 29 and coming off some injuries. Yes he’s in the GOAT convo, but that screams risky contract. I wouldn’t be into 10 years at that point.
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12:59 |
: It’s hard to say because we rarely see a player like that hit FA
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1:00 |
: Expecting a bounce back from Jon Gray this year?
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1:00 |
: Cautiously optimistic
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1:00 |
: Who’s your Rockies 2B starter on opening day? Fantasy relevance?
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1:00 |
: I still think it would be mcmahon in the end and a Rockies hitter is almost always going to be fantasy relevant
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1:01 |
: Unless they’re absolutely horrific
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1:01 |
: I think the ‘Stros passed on Realmuto because they genuinely believe Tucker/Whitley/Yordan to some extent are their future. All three play positions currently occupied by really old dudes. Should be a smooth transition over the next couple years right?
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1:01 |
: I think the lineup transition will be easier than the pitchers
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1:01 |
: The contributing hitters are more or less the younger ones
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1:02 |
: and while there are a lot of phenomenally talented minor league pitchers in the system, they have a LOT to possibly replace
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1:02 |
: Mike Elias’s interview in the Athletic today was a breath of fresh air as an O’s fan. No question, just happiness despite a 115 loss team.
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1:02 |
: Why does ZiPS regress pretty much every great/good player?
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1:02 |
: Because that makes projections more accurate.
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1:02 |
: Great players dont’ have pretty bell curves among their expected future.
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1:04 |
: The better the player, generally, the more negative the skewness
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1:04 |
: Best baseball video ever? MLB2005 right?
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1:04 |
: Baseball Stars
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1:04 |
: and honestly, MLB the Show has passed those 2K/EA games
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1:05 |
: Mike Trout has 35 facial hair. I don’t think he has shaved since his rookie season and no one can tell
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1:05 |
: I know his pain
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1:05 |
: What possible reason would you have for playing Healy over Vogelbach on a non-contending team?
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1:05 |
: Family being held hostage by Healy-rights groups?
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1:05 |
: Do you get as weirded-out as I do by people asking you for updates about your pet?
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1:05 |
: No, especially given how much galileo sends tweets
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1:06 |
: Have there ever been any cinderella stories, players who didn’t grade out as superstars but somehow developed into one?
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1:06 |
: Half the stars in baseball!
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1:06 |
: Pujols wasn’t highly drafted
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1:06 |
: Piazza
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1:06 |
: You can name ’em all day!
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1:06 |
: Is the Markakis signing really a problem if they had a competitive offer for Harper?
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1:06 |
: No
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1:06 |
: What is your least favorite baseball jargon?
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1:06 |
: “resumed baseball activities”
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1:06 |
: sounds like a euphemism
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1:07 |
: If your friend had stomach flu and you asked if they were feelign better
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1:07 |
: and they replied “I have resumed consumption activities.”
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1:07 |
: You shoudl punch them in the face. Not hard, but just hard enough to nip that in the bud.
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1:08 |
: “How’s your ankle Alan?”
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1:08 |
: “I have resumed all pastimes reflecting of an ambulatory character.”
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1:08 |
: <karate chop to face>
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1:09 |
: As close to 1R^2 for any chat Dan. That is disturbing to me.
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1:09 |
: I still don’t get this, what are we correlating it with?
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1:09 |
: Ever yield (zips)^2 by running zips on zips projections? I’m sure it leads to at least x4 times the accuracy
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1:09 |
: ZiPS is a great predictor of ZiPS!
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1:09 |
: What’s the worst injury you’ve ever suffered?
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1:10 |
: Tore my wrist tripping over a cat in the dark on the stairs and getting my hand stuck in the bannister as I tried to catch myself.
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1:11 |
: Though stepping on a piece of glass and making a cut from under my fourth toe to the side of my foot and most of the way down was worse than I thought at the time
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1:11 |
: I just tied it off with a sock I used as a tourniquet and went about my business and checked it every few hours to see if the bleeding had stopped.
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1:11 |
: Took a really long time
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1:11 |
: My sister, in medical school at the time, was absolutely furious about this
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1:12 |
: She said I needed about a dozen stitches
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1:12 |
: the right side of my foot was numb for about 6 months and then slowly feeling crept back up where the cut was
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1:12 |
: But eventually it stopped. A couple of years later, I still don’t have feeling on the outer half of my pink toe and I think that’s permanent.
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1:13 |
: And with that gross story, I bid you all adieu for another week!@
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1:13 |
: Thanks for coming everyone!
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
20% of Martin Riggs Cellardweller salary for HARPER is too rich for you?
LOL
Good thing u don’t play in my AL Only Keeper league. Paid 24.2% of my budget, $63, for Mike Trout 23/260
Depending on his keeper list, 20% easily could be done.
Almost took down the league and finished a comfortable 2nd.