Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 3/12/2020
12:01 |
: Welcome to SzymChat where the only thing contagious is friendship! And maybe chickenpox.
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12:01 |
: Let’s start with the obvious one: Will there be baseball on March 26th?
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12:01 |
: No
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12:01 |
: dan,
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12:01 |
: I haven’t even DONE anything yet.
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12:01 |
: Will players be paid their full salaries this season if games do get cancelled, or if they only play, say, 120 games, will players only get paid 120/162 of their salary?
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12:01 |
: I believe they get paid, but I am not 100% sure about that.
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12:02 |
: Oh, since it’s been a couple of weeks, I’m bringing back the Lightning Round.
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12:03 |
: So I’m saving off-topic Qs for that round.
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12:03 |
: Do you prefer Jack Flaherty or Shane Bieber?
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12:03 |
: Flaherty slight.
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12:03 |
: Lee
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12:03 |
: Dan, given that at this point, an extension seems pretty unlikely from Lindor, do you think the Indians are going to begin to look to “blow it up?” Or do you think it’s more likely that they attempt to remain in playoff contention until that window has been firmly closed? Seems like a bit of a strange situation on that team.
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12:04 |
: I don’t think they’ll move him this year, but I think they will next winter
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12:04 |
: The Brewers, a small market team who relies heavily on paid attendance & revenue from in game attendance, would get hit devastatingly hard by lost revenue from non-attended or cancelled games. Does MLB have some sort of contingiency plan in place to help teams out in a case like this where a major segment of the season stands to be effectively unable to generate in-stadium revenue?
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12:04 |
: I don’t have any specific knowledge of what MLB does in this situation; I have to think I never really consider MLB and civil emergency
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12:04 |
: But given how poorly MLB prepares for things, I’d be mildly surprised if they ahd a plan
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12:05 |
: Corbin Burnes: Was 2019 a flukishly bad season, or was his relatively decent run in 2018 the fluke, and last season is who he really is?
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12:06 |
: I think it’s largely a fluke
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12:06 |
: The NBA has suspended their games until further notice…isn’t Major League Baseball going to do the same thing, you can’t have 30 or 40 thousand people together in a confined space
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12:07 |
: Which bad team with a good farm system do you have the most faith in?
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12:08 |
: Marlins maybe?
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12:08 |
: Think Kelenic makes it to the show this year?
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12:08 |
: Maybe for a wee espresso
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12:08 |
: So as a person who has worked from home for most of their career what are your tips to those of are new to working from home on being productive? Which I’m obviously not doing a good job at right now.
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12:09 |
: Not a question, but there is a restaurant in Miller Park that just opened, literally called the “Restaurant to be Named Later”.
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12:09 |
: Do you prefer an $8 Moose or an $8 Hiura? H2H categories league with OBP/SLG instead of BA.
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12:09 |
: Hiura if you’re a weak team needing upside, Moose if you’re a stronger team that needs certainty.
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12:10 |
: Am I correct to assume Tatis was left off your ESPN article because zips projects him to play under 100 games for each of the next three seasons?
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12:13 |
: yeah, he missed; ZiPS is suspicious about his playing time
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12:13 |
: Dan, how much do you think my question to you influenced Mike Bolsinger to file a suit against the Astros?
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12:13 |
: I don’t remember the Q
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12:13 |
: but I imagine not
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12:13 |
: Is Urshela good enough to cover up Gleybers miscues or do you see that being a problem?
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12:14 |
: Urshela’s just an averageish 3B
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12:14 |
: And really, unless Torres is sub-Hanley bad, it’s pretty much a who cares unless he’s not hitting, which he ought to be
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12:14 |
: ZIPS thinks that Barreto is a tier above Machin and Mateo and should be the clear favorite for the platoon job next to Kemp (Pinder needs to play OF with the Piscotty injury). Do you agree and do you think the A’s agree?
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12:16 |
: I think options will result in Barretto/Mateo being prioritized
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12:16 |
: Though as I’ve joked, my desired result is an 80/20 Barreto/Pinder split so I can call it the Parreto Principle
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12:16 |
: How amazing would it be for a pitcher to call his pitches in a game against the Astros like Bauer did? I mean it in a ‘just to be an ass’ kind of way.
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12:17 |
: I like trolling
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12:17 |
: Looks like I get to play a full season
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12:17 |
: Technically, I suspect nobody’s playing a full season!
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12:17 |
: Long-term, Gavin Lux or Keston Hiura?
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12:17 |
: Lux
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12:17 |
: Can’t get booed if there aren’t any games!
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12:17 |
: Hi Dan, off the top of your head, does the Yelich extension tell us anything about how much Betts or Lindor should expect, or should have expected during recent negotiations?
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12:17 |
: I don’t think it tells us anything new
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12:17 |
: Yelich’s contract is about what you expect given the service time
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12:18 |
: Should MLB Postpone the start of the season a month? If it is not safe until May 1st should they make up the games and play into November? I know it might be too early at this stage to think about how they deal with fallout if they can’t play, but it is still kind of interesting to consider the potential options.
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12:18 |
: I’d make up the games, but I’m not sure how MLB feels
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12:18 |
: Probably would hae to involve lots of doubleheaders, which teams and players don’t like
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12:18 |
: so probably won’t happen
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12:19 |
: See anything special in Linblom or Houser? Enough to make the Brewskis
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12:19 |
: They’ll both be on the team
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12:19 |
: Back to MLB and COVID; we’re in new territory here
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12:19 |
: so I really have no idea what’s going to happen a day, a week, a month from now
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12:19 |
: I’m not sure MLB even knows
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12:20 |
: So this is gonna be another of those years in great players’ counting stats (like Trout’s WAR) we have to discount like 94, right? In fact I HOPE it’s like 94 and not, uh, war credit entire season stuff.
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12:20 |
: stay safe Dan!
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12:20 |
: I’m awesome at social distancing, so if I get sick, everyone else already is!
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12:21 |
: I swear, someone asked me about work at home productivity question and I didn’t answer it and I don’t know where it went
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12:21 |
: Unless I’m losing my mind.
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12:22 |
: Anyway, I think the best way to effectively work at home is to not do anything I do
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12:22 |
: Because I’m a disorganized mess.
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12:22 |
: So, I would say put yourself on a schedule. Dress like you would as if you were going somewhere. Don’t wander off and get tacos.
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12:23 |
: Don’t get distracted by a video game release or crawling around chasing cats until your right knee is in intense pain because you’re a fat middle aged dude crawling on your knee
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12:23 |
: Do not devote a section of your desk to used dishes.
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12:24 |
: Given that we’re going to have some baseball-free time soon, ever think about publishing some “what if” ZIPS projections? Like projecting Nomar if he hadn’t fallen apart after 03, etc.
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12:24 |
: I think we’re wait-and-see
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12:24 |
: Thankfully, not being a beat writer, I still have tasks to do
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12:24 |
: Things like that and I always have a data work “to do” list a mile long
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12:24 |
: Scherzer, Verlander, Kershaw, Greinke: who ends up the best, who ends up in the Hall?
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12:24 |
: I think it’s still Kershaw in the end
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12:25 |
: This is super important – if there’s no audience and so games are played in near total silence, we will quickly find out which pitchers make the most embarrassing noises when they throw the ball. I bet you Bumgarner is a mad grunter.
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12:25 |
: While doing the ZiPS breakdowns which players really surprised you with how high ZiPS was on them?
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12:25 |
: One of my pieces coming!
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12:25 |
: With his 89mph blazing heater, is this the year Greinke becomes just average?
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12:25 |
: ZiPS sees more homers, but him still being effective
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12:25 |
: I don’t understand why people say baseball is hard if I were a baseball player I would simply do what Mike Trout does it’s easy
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12:25 |
: I ‘Ctrl+F’ the CBA for suspend, postpone, and cancel regarding the schedule, and found nothing, surprisingly.
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12:25 |
: Thank you for infecting me with your friendship, Dan.
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12:25 | : Rosenthal wrote about paying the players in this article about the league and COVID-19. No paywall. |
12:27 |
: Sounds like the MLB/MLBPA did not plan for this specific issue
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12:27 |
: 1996 Yankes won the world series with only two players north of 20 HRs on the season (Tino Martinez and Bernie Williams!). When’s the next time that happens in baseball? ever?
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12:27 |
: I was going to say 2015, but I forget about Kendrys
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12:27 |
: Though if there’s two Kendrys, I’m not sure if it’s not 11 HR per Kendry
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12:28 |
: should the Mets have Matz in starting rotation just to make sure they have a lefty or is there really no benefit added there? I think he’s better than or beats out wacha so point might be moo(Joey tribiani) anyway.
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12:28 |
: I think he’s better than Wacha
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12:28 |
: I can’t picture squeezing in another month’s worth of games. The season already goes into November, and you’d start getting snow outs and the like. Plus you don’t want Philly fans with snowballs.
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12:28 |
: You could do playoffs in neutral warm-weather cities
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12:28 |
: It’s not ideal, but it’s possible
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12:29 |
: What do you prefer, postponing the opening day but keeping the same 162 games or just shortening the length of the season?
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12:29 |
: I personally prefer 162 games because more baseball > less baseball, but I’m not in charge of anything
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12:29 |
: For fantasy purposes, if the season is shortened, should strategies remain the same, or should we target higher floor players?
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12:29 |
: Not sure, I don’t think it drastically changes things other than making the end results more volatile
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12:32 |
: If MLB suspends the season, would you anticipate the down time to affect players’ performances negatively?
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12:32 |
: Not really
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12:32 |
: How much of a chance do you think Yelich has of catching Robin Yount for most career WAR as a Brewers?
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12:33 |
: Certainly under 50%
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12:33 |
: 50 WAR is a lot
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12:34 |
: “Dress like you would as if you were going somewhere” So pajamas then?
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12:35 |
: Spring Training May be cancelled soon, per multiple sources.
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12:35 |
: Wait and see? I like see. I don’t like wait. Wait bad. See good.
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12:35 |
: If MLB goes ahead and suspends spring training games today, how long do you think Opening Day would have to be postponed so players can get back into game shape?
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12:35 |
: It’s not really as much of a problem in 2020.
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12:35 |
: It’s not 1930.
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12:36 |
: re: neutral warm weather cities: Miami’s stadium should be awfully available come October…
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12:37 |
: If the season is delayed, do you think spring training games will be extended to keep players fresh?
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12:37 |
: No
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12:37 |
: If the delayed season start happens, who would be the biggest winner/loser of this? Maybe Yankees could be a winner, right?
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12:37 |
: I would imagine teams with deeper rosters
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12:37 |
: Is MLB playing with fire not suspending operations in the face of a virus that is well documented as bat borne?
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12:37 |
There is a feeling of inevitability among executives that Major League Baseball will be suspending spring training as soon as today, sources tell ESPN.
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12:37 |
: Spring training is too long anyway, I feel
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12:37 |
: Million dollar idea: Separate the divisions teams into neutral cities with baseball stadiums and have all the teams live together in compounds/mansions like reality TV. Teams still play each other so the season can start, they remain quarantined, and we get the MLB trash TV we’ve always wanted. Imagine the drama!!
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12:38 |
: if it comes to a point where games get cancelled, its not going to be just 1 or 2 months of games.
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12:38 |
: I’m not sure I buy that logic.
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12:38 |
: There’s a lot of money involved. They’re not throwing in the towel easily.
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12:39 |
: They’re not going to go “Oh well, no APril games, well, everyone just show up refreshed next year!”
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12:39 |
: If games are suspended or played in empty parks, I’m not worried about the owners. The are billionaires. Worry about the concession workers and ushers and small businesses around the ballparks. They are going to get creamed.
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12:39 |
: With the O’s projected putridity, wouldn’t they be better served for the future by giving Mountcastle as many ABs as possible this year?
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12:39 |
: Yes
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12:39 |
: There’s no good reason for Chris Davis to ever where an Orioles uniform again.
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12:40 |
: where?
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12:40 |
: really dan?
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12:40 |
: I have a draft coming up Monday. That being said should I move up injured players on my board such as Verlander Paxton and Clevinger?
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12:40 |
: It’s not the worst idea
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12:40 |
: The Yankees would have to be the team to benefit the most from a postponed start, no?
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12:41 |
: They’d certainly benefit
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12:42 |
When might we see the ZiPs spreadsheet?
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12:42 |
: I have to finish my positions for our positional rankings first
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12:42 |
: So who’s simulating the 2020 season, if parts of it can’t be played?
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12:42 |
: I’d probably do a lot of Twitch Diamond Mind
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12:43 |
: maybe have readers as opposing managers?
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12:43 |
: Why do you think there is such a long delay regarding the results of the Red Sox investigation?
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12:43 |
: I swear, Bryant’s arbitration hearing took 5 years
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12:43 |
: Which is more likely following a postponed opening day: games made up or shortened season? cuz man oh man I wanted to watch my Redlegs play 162
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12:43 |
: Shortened season more likely
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12:43 |
Following his fall (and hopeful rise) is the most intriguing thing about the orioles on the major league roster right now. |
12:43 |
: SOunds like no players are currently on the fields in Florida, baseball is shutting it down
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12:43 |
: Is this the big break that Esports has been waiting for? How should they capitalize on this opportunity?
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12:43 |
: Weirdly, they’re axing events too
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12:43 |
: Because a lot of them play in person
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12:44 |
: Though I think they should play online when stuff like this happens
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12:44 |
: it’s kinda silly for a pandemic to cancel a video game tourney
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12:45 |
: FOr some reason, questions have stopped coming
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12:45 |
: Dan, how much rice have you stored away?
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12:45 |
: I have more beans, I don’t really like rice that much
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12:46 |
: But…why? You don’t use them for chili…
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12:47 |
: There are many uses for beans
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12:47 |
: Jus tnot chili
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12:47 |
: So if you’re forced to self quarantine, how long would you hold out before you ended up having to make chili with those beans?
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12:47 |
: Depends how fast I get tired of spaghetti and ramen
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12:48 |
: Those beans will be excellent for chili
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12:48 |
: No
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12:48 |
: Dan confirmed eating beans on the side of chili as a loophole.
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12:48 |
: I didn’t say I’d eat them on the side
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12:48 |
: there’s soups and stuff
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12:48 |
: and you can just eat beans
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12:49 |
: you don’t need a side for chili, you just eat chili
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12:49 |
: Isn’t corn bread a traditional side for chili?
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12:49 |
: Yeah, but I don’t do it personally
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12:49 |
: It’s not verboten or anything
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12:50 |
: I don’t see people putting forward the empty stadium options for getting in 162
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12:50 |
: I get playing fan-less games, but the psychological distraction provided by sports can’t be overstated. Let’s (keep) play(ing) ball!
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12:50 |
: Has anyone tried Skyline Chili as an anti-viral?
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12:50 |
: The cure is worse than the disease!
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12:51 |
: What’s your favourite cheese?
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12:51 |
: I like a good Fourme de Montbrison
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12:51 |
: Have you ever considered using ZIPS to “back-project” how good a player “could have been”? For example, if you showed ZIPS only Charlie Morton’s recent seasons, could it tell you how good it thinks he would have been over his career?
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12:51 |
: I do that at times
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12:51 |
: Like I’ve done it for Eric Davis
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12:53 |
: and both sides for Al Rosen
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12:53 |
: The psychological distraction provided by sports can be overstated. Sports don’t matter
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12:53 |
: How easy is it to go from an in person auction draft to online? Never done an online draft before but I’m thinking it might be best to try.
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12:53 |
: Seems it wouldn’t be hard, but I’m an online guy
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12:53 |
: Will Addison Russell play this year?
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12:53 |
: I think he’ll eventually get signed
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12:53 |
: Not having baseball is going to really really really suck
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12:53 |
: head to head points league redraft, who should be drafted first in your opinion….josh bell or Matt Olson?
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12:53 |
: Olson
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12:53 |
: am I getting a refund on my mlb.tv subscription?
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12:53 |
: No idea at all
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12:54 |
: I’m just answering off-topic Qs; not enough traffic today to hold over Qs
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12:54 |
: Do you drink sour beers?
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12:54 |
: Yeah, but I’m not *huge* on them
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12:55 |
: head to head points league who should go first, JD Martinez or Bryce harper? and then what about meadows or Gallo?
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12:56 |
: I’d still go with Harper first and Meadows easily
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12:56 |
: Would you rather be suspended from your cats for a month or have baseball be suspended for 2 months?
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12:56 |
: Wait, do I just not see cats or they starve to death or something?
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12:56 |
: does the poor attendance argue that a big part of your chat group are college kids?
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12:56 |
: Which MLB GM would you like to be quarantined with so you could berate him for two weeks straight?
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12:56 |
: Bridich
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12:57 |
: and if I get mad and have a stroke, he can perform brain surgery!
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12:57 |
: You don’t see your cats. They are taken care of but living somewhere else and you cannot come into contact with any other cats.
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12:57 |
: Oh, then I’ll take the baseball over the cats
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12:57 |
: As long as they’re fine, I like having job security
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12:57 |
: Should more teams sell their baseball teams/games as an awesome, laid-back, enjoyable pass-time? Seems like it could remove a lot of the negative “only one happy team at the end of the season” mindset.
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12:57 |
: Yes
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12:57 |
: Or sell the teams at ALL
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12:58 |
: Like the Red Sox making sure to announce they had to dump Betts as many times as possible.
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12:58 |
: Have you ever seen McDonald’s advertise “Come have the new mediocreburger. Our revenues are down so we’ll make our burgers shitty!”
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12:58 |
: You heard the man God. Send his cats to the neighbors and give us baseball.
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12:58 |
: Which do hate the most, the 3 batter minimum or the new roster rules around two-way players and position players pitching?
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12:58 |
: The latter because of the way they did that
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12:59 |
: They made the bright lines on the latter way too high
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12:59 |
: It’s just a sign that the world is going dark. I can only attend today because I’m ahead in preparing for our Mad Max future. I’m hoping for a job thrashing a guitar at the forefront of the local warlord’s makeshift car armada
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12:59 |
: I don’t have a useful skill set for the apocalypse
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12:59 |
: And really, no internet, no a/c in the summer, I’m not down with that
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12:59 |
: I’ve been busy during chats for a while know but I’m curious how much Severino would likely have made if he went year to year in arbitration and had the same injury/stats/playing time as he did in real life?
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12:59 |
: Maybe I’ll doa piece
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12:59 |
: So far I have drafted Trout, JRam, deGrom, Gerrit Cole & Wander Franco for my ottoneu squad, who will be the worst major leaguer I roster this year? 14 team
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1:00 |
: Dol you own all 14 teams?
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1:00 |
: Franco’s not going to be valuable in 2020
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1:00 |
: Not because he sucks of course
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1:00 |
: ZIPS says the Dodgers’ Cody Thomas would turn in -1.3 WAR if he played a full season. Does his spring training alter your personal thoughts about him at all?
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1:00 |
: Not really
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1:03 |
: Last year’s spring HR leaders included Lew Brinson, Travis Shaw, Jung Ho Kang
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1:04 |
: how did you become a writer/contributor for FanGraphs?
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1:04 |
: Well, I worked for ESPN and then I was hired to write here.
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1:04 |
: I then I filled out a new w5
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1:05 |
: Arcia or Urias for the Brewers at SS? The former was terrible last year, but that was driven partly by a paltry BABIP, and he’s looked much better in the spring; the latter has much more upside, but he too failed to hit last year, and he’s been slowed by a wrist injury so far this year.
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1:05 |
: Urias
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1:05 |
: Which of these two options constitutes a better fantasy baseball team name, “Reese’s Public Pieces” or “Peter Peter Reese’s Beater”? Can you make this a poll? (was very tempted to spell poll pole)
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1:06 |
: Will the result be binding?
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1:07 |
: Sure?
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1:07 |
Name My Fantasy Team
Reese’s Public Pieces (22.2% | 6 votes)
Pete Peter Reese’s Beater (25.9% | 7 votes)
Peter Piper Picked a Peck of LAST PLACE (11.1% | 3 votes)
I Have a Sexual Mancrush on Peter Riegert (40.7% | 11 votes)
Total Votes: 27
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1:07 |
: I will name one of my fantasy teams the winning name
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1:07 |
: Does Zack Collins have a long-term place in Chicago with Vaughn, Grandal, and Abreu around? What team might be interested in him if he’s a trade candidate?
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1:07 |
: I think he’ll be in another org eventually
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1:07 |
: My thinking on suspending the season lasting more than 1 or 2 months is that the virus is not going to just stop spreading in May, unless it turns out to be affected by heat and humidity (like flue, which isn’t known yet.
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1:08 |
: At the rate we’re blowing up — and I’m assuming we do a crap job of flattening the curve — I think the worst will be over
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1:08 |
: I’m ashamed to admit I’ve already resorted to cannibalism in this hellscape. Everyone in the office appears to be understanding, besides Mr. Lunch of course.
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1:08 |
: Jose Marmolejos is Paddington’s jam.
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1:08 |
: What ever happened to Ryan Zimmerman’s defamation lawsuit against Al Jazeera for their steroid “documentary”?
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1:08 |
: It’s been a while since I heard about that. No idea
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1:08 |
: Dan, what does the neural network have to say about COVID-19 affecting baseball?
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1:09 |
: Let’s see
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1:10 |
: well, bad news if you’re a Giants or Pirates fan
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1:10 |
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1:11 |
: But seriously, talk me down and tell me why Marmolejos isn’t a very good sleeper bat in the mold of Jose Martinez? Could be helpful, right?
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1:11 |
: He’s at least interesting. Seems like the type who ends up in Japan
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1:11 |
: If a player is on the 26-man roster for both games of a doubleheader, does he get two days of service time?
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1:12 |
: Not normally since it’s days and not games, but I imaigne something would have to be changed in a shortened season
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1:12 |
: Everyone in 1995 got a full year of service time
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1:12 |
: what time will the chat be over today? so I can post proof of naming a fantasy team the winning result?
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1:12 |
: I’m going to close it in about 5 minutes as I have other work to do
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1:12 |
: You can post the proof next week!
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1:13 |
: Assuming you’re healthy
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1:13 |
: if I’m not, you can do it in Ben or Jay’s chat and confuse them
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1:13 |
: I know what ZiPS thinks about Matt Olson, but what do you think about him? He’s one of the players I’m most excited to watch this season.
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1:13 |
: I like him a lot
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1:13 |
: Other work as in figuring out how to use your projecting skills in the upcoming apocalypse?
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1:13 |
: Getting the ZiPS in-season stuff ready
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1:13 |
: Still want to plan things normally
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1:13 |
: H2H points league: Would you rather keep a $0 Gallen or a $0 Luzardo
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1:13 |
: Gallen for certainty, Luzardo for upside
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1:14 |
: I’m sure ill be fine I’m actually a news monster and therefore immune to the corona virus
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1:14 |
: Is there a schedule for when each team’s prospect ranking list will come out? I’ve been eagerly awaiting the list for the Mariners
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1:14 |
: I believe there’s a list, but I am not privy to it
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1:14 |
: And even if it were, I don’t even tell you guys the *ZiPS* order!
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1:14 |
: What four pro wrestlers would you put on your version of a pro wrestling Mount Rushmore?
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1:15 |
: Guerrero/Hart/Flair for sure
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1:15 |
: Even brain-damaged, I can hardly put Benoit up there, even if he was my favorite wrestler at the…uh…time
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1:16 |
: I’ll go with Hennig
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1:16 |
: Your bobblehead collection includes………….
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1:16 |
: Suarez.
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1:16 |
: End.
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1:16 |
: From a giveaway awhile back
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1:16 |
: I don’t really collect physical things
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1:17 |
: So, projections think the Mariners are somewhere between bad and horrible. As a Mariner fan, I find this a little lazy. Walker, Graveman, and Marco should be average. I think Sheffield and Kikuchi are going to be better than that. The lineup is so young, I get dinging them for lack of track record, but their range of outcomes is very high. Am I thinking too hard about projections, or not hard enough?
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1:17 |
: How are computer projections lazy?
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1:17 |
: You collect metaphysical things?
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1:17 |
: I’m more of a digital hoarder
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1:17 |
: And on that note, time to end the chat for another week!
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1:17 |
: Hope to see you all next week!
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1:18 |
: And the poll has ended Morbo
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
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