Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 6/27/24
12:01 |
: It is time. A time for chats.
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12:01 |
: RE- KC Royals. A lot of fans seem to think it might be a mistake to “sell the future” for reliever rentals and whatnot, and obviously there is a balance. But to me, the farm system is so bad and the team is so far away from actually being a legitimate looking sustainable contender that it could be another 5 years before they are in this type of position again. Do you think it actually makes more sense to sort of “go all in” to some degree for KCR?
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12:02 |
: I think there’s something to that…if not for Cleveland.
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12:02 |
: I think if you go all-in, you at least want to have a really good shot at the division
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12:03 |
: and the second best record
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12:03 |
: It becomes trickier when you’re mostly chasing a wild card
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12:03 |
: The other problem is that it’s a real sellers’ market
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12:03 |
: I’m not sure the Royals can offer as much as a lot of teams can
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12:04 |
: So in the right circumstances, it might make sense
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12:04 |
: What will Coby Mayo’s long term position be in the majors?
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12:04 |
: I’m still going to be hopeful and say 3B
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12:05 |
: His rudimentary 3B defensive numbers aren’t really bad and the O’s remain confident enough that he’s still played 3B like 80% of the time and they’ve yet to use him in OF
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12:05 |
: I feel like at this point most analytics types have (rightfully) dismissed the playoffs as a carnival game, and the owners have no incentive to change that, but is there any change that you’d do to make it consistently reward actually good teams if you had the power? (ex: shorter timeline, NPB/KBO-style 1-0 series leads or ladder structure, etc)
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12:06 |
: I’ve spoken in favor of using handicaps to reward in-season play
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12:07 |
: With the right set of rules, you can have a 30-team playoff tournament that greatly rewards regular season play
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12:07 |
: like make the White Sox win seven consecutive games against Phillies to advance
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12:07 |
: Is there a way to get monthly splits for plate discipline stats? This would be massively helpful for differentiating between hot streaks and potential skill improvements.
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12:07 |
: You can actually do splits on the regular leaderboard pretty easily and get whoever you want
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12:10 |
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12:10 |
: David Fry is cooling off a little now, but he’s got a chance to make it to the second round of All-Star voting, despite appearing at 5 different positions (plus DH), and nowhere more than 22 times out of 58 appearances (or 38% of his games). Is he threatening the greatest “super-utility” seasons of all time, for players whose most common position in a season made up less than 40-50% of their total appearances?
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12:10 |
: Certainly has to be up there
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12:11 |
: Though I think in the super-utility pantheon, you need to give more credit for the up the middle positions
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12:11 |
: Fry has C
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12:11 |
: but Zobrist played three of the four middle positions in some of those seasons
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12:13 |
: Would you consider Festa a worse, equal, or better prospect than Povich?
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12:13 |
: I think they’re in the same general vicinity
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12:14 |
: Does Zips buy Blanco and Browns’ breakouts? Is Spencer A a 4 or is dominating the Rockies what he’s supposed to do?
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12:14 |
: To an extent. Brown more than Blanco
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12:14 |
: Brown had been doing really well early in the ZiPS z stats
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12:15 |
: ZiPS is less enthralled with arrighetti
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12:15 |
: Do you often second guess trades you make? Standard H2H league. Traded away Skenes for Tatis Jr. If I’m deep in pitching, that’s a good move right?
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12:15 |
: I try not to second guess because I have a tendency to hate everything I do
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12:16 |
: Every time I submit an article, I suddenly get the feeling that it was the worst piece of crap ever
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12:16 |
: Any hope for Suwinski?
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12:16 |
: Sure, though you do have to realign your expectations negatively compared to preseason
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12:17 |
: I hope they don’t trade him, but if they do what do you think a Skubal trade looks like?
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12:17 |
: Oh, they’d get a pretty solid package, it’s the type of trade you’d see a top 50 guy move
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12:17 |
: What do the O’s do with their OF? I’m a huge believer in Cowser given the combination of plate discipline and contact quality (T50 in both SEAGER + Damage/BBE to borrow Robert Orr’s dashboard), but his biggest issue is that he isn’t pulling the ball and he isn’t getting the everyday ABs needed to make that adjustment. He’s also one of the most valuable defenders in the league this year! Can you trade Kjerstad? Wait for an injury? Mullins has been absolutely awful for a full calendar year outside of the last two weeks.
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12:17 |
: I think the Orioles just keep rolling with the OF
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12:17 |
: they’re scoring a lot of runs
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12:18 |
: and the rotation’s going to be the bigger concern to deal with
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12:18 |
: His underlying numbers seem to suggest more in the tank. Does he have breakout potential?
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12:18 |
: I’m skeptical. I still think he’s a good stopgap or fourth OF type
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12:18 |
: Which is actually better than I felt about him a few years ago
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12:18 |
: Has his recent run changed his long term outlook?
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12:18 |
: Slightly more optimistic for sure
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12:19 |
: How/why did you become a member of the Cincinnati BBWAA.
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12:19 |
: Well, Cincy because I live in the area
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12:21 |
: I probably could have gotten into the BBWAA before 2016, but I was a real wuss about asking. Passan applied some kind peer-pressure on me to ask Trent Rosecrans and I did.
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12:21 |
: One of my decision-making flaws as a person is I have a crazy amount of inertia
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12:21 |
: if I’m content about something, I generally like the status quo
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12:22 |
: Am I closer to the reincarnation of Javy Lopez or did I lose my power?
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12:22 |
: I think that was always too high a projection if you’re saying Javy Lopez
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12:22 |
: But Diaz ought to be a decentish offense-first catcher no matter his 2024
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12:22 |
: what do you like better, a time for chats or un temps pour chats?
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12:22 |
: I see what you did there
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12:23 |
: Though cats aren’t being very interesting at the moment
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12:23 |
: Reading this book called Marx for Cats. Thought of you, I’d suggest checking it out and we can discuss during the off season.
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12:23 |
Bonds was a great hitter. Judge is crushing. A guy who has done it before. This isnt a surprise. He has no lineup protection. Yet, everytime I look up some scrub is trying to get a meatball past him. Last night Soto on and thrown right down the damn middle in a 1-2 count. Orrr, face JD Davis, Verdugo, DJ LeMahieu, and Austin Wells. I even own Judge on one of my two teams. Just drives me insane. Also, Ohtani also hitting .300+ and 25+ HR has… 2 IBB. At least Gunnar bats leadoff and has bats behind him Right up there with, “our beat hitter is coming to bat, let us try and steal and get caught to end the inning.”. WHYYYY???????? -End Rant |
12:23 |
: It’s just that for intentional walks, you need to have a REALLY big gulf between batters
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12:23 |
: it’s what we called “weak protection” in the 90s
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12:24 |
: in that there wasn’t really an observable protection effect as generally thought of
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12:24 |
: BUT, in very lopsided situations, like the #8 batter in NL games, there was a real intentional walk effect
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12:24 |
: Which is why if you look at NL IBB leaders in individual years in the 80s and 90s
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12:25 |
: You’ll see great hitters and the occasional crappy SS or C
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12:27 |
: Like the back to back IBB leads for Garry Templeton (post-1981 when he was no longer good)
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12:27 |
: What is your immediate reaction to the Texas A&M shakeup? LaViolette instantly the most exciting player to hit the portal since…?
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12:27 |
: Do you fault Schlossnagle for leaving A&M in the current college environment? Is it as simple as Texas showed him what $100 bills looked like when measured in cubic yards?
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12:28 |
: I only know the basic situation! This isn’t really my area of expertise. You should bug the Baseball America guys on twitter or something
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12:28 |
: wwait, I didn’t mean to sound negative
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12:28 |
: That came off really badly and I apologize
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12:28 |
: I mean that you should ask them as they pay more attention to the day to day stuff
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12:31 |
: Hey Dan, any explanation for the NL home run drought of 1946? Kiner lead the league with 23! The AL seemed normal.
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12:31 |
: I think it’s just one of those weird quirks
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12:31 |
: You still had the effects of lower quality wartime baseballs
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12:31 |
: and the difference in league HRs wasn’t THAT huge
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12:32 |
: Would love a model that shows updated trade values from zips. Any chance we ever get it ?
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12:32 |
: Not sure. I’d need to figure out more automation
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12:32 |
: How sticky are your hands right now?
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12:32 |
: Not at all!
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12:32 |
: I have a weird hangup about having anything on my hands and wrists
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12:32 |
: i never wear a watch or any kind of ring
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12:33 |
: and even a bandaid, I’ll basically take off as soon as accidentally hitting the area won’t cause bleeding
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12:34 |
: so if I have a sticky spot or something, I’ll get it off immediately
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12:34 |
: even if I just spit in my hand
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12:34 |
: (don’t worry, I don’t do this in public)
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12:34 |
: I wear latex gloves to do cat food or even a can of tuna
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12:34 |
: Yankees manage .500 the second half? Seems like the same problem as last year. Older underperforming players
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12:34 |
: They have a great deal of downside for sure given the construction
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12:34 |
: but they ought to be better than .500!
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12:35 |
: With injuries absolutely killing the Reds, its looking more and more likely they’ll be in selling, rather than buying, position at the deadline. If they are, who do they even sell? Does anyone even want Frankie Montas??
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12:35 |
: They’re not getting an amazing package or anything for him
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12:35 |
: but it is a sellers market. If he looks healthy in July, they’ll get something, almost no matter what he does
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12:35 |
: Thanks for the answer re: Fry! Looks like Zobrist had one season (2012, .848 OPS) where he didn’t play 50% of his games at one position (71 of 157 appearances in right field). Fry’s at .940 so far with a ZiPS RoS of .747, which would put him right in line with that season
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12:35 |
: Sorry, ZiPS RoS of .767*
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12:36 |
: his full fat ZiPS RoS is better though!
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12:37 |
: Have you done a time warp on Herb Score, Frank Tanana pre injury, Dickie Thon, or Sandy Koufax? Could be cool! Thank you for chatting
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12:37 |
: The first three are kind of in my mental queue
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12:37 |
: didn’t really think of Koufax as I figured it wouldn’t be super interesting
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12:38 |
: I mean, he’s already a highly respected easy Hall of Famer with a crazy peak
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12:38 |
: I tend to like the guys that missed a specific record or missed the Hall
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12:38 |
: Thon is a good one
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12:38 |
: REally, so are the other two
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12:39 |
: JJ Bleday is tied for 3rd in CF WAR so far this season. Are you a believer? Is ZiPS?
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12:39 |
: Neither of us are really
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12:39 |
: I doubt the demand outweighs the tech lift, but what would it take for a 3-year ZiPS that updates in-season (or maybe just once around the ASB)?
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12:40 |
: I’d need to do a simpler model like the in-season one
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12:40 |
: updating just once isn’t a bad idea though
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12:40 |
: David’s on vacation, I shoudl suggest that
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12:40 |
: Who is one guy you’re still surprised is struggling and are extremely optimistic about moving forward
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12:40 |
: Well, it WAS Acuna
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12:41 |
: Colt Keith
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12:41 |
: I can’t belief Jeff McNeil is THIS bad
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12:41 |
: That Kwan guy seems pretty good. How much has his 2024 changed his long term projection?
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12:42 |
: I’m actually doing the midway ZiPS movers/shakers piece
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12:42 |
: hitters should go tomorrow
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12:42 |
: If Harper had an opt out, what does Zips think he’d get in free agency?
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12:42 |
: I’ll run it
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12:43 |
: Though it’s really more what ZiPS thinks someone *should* pay rather than what he will
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12:43 |
: ZiPS thought Bryant should have gotten like $100 million less than he did in Colorado. But he was always GOING TO get more than THAT
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12:44 |
: Cincy use to be my adopted hometown until 1979. I was hardcore Reds fan until then. Up to 24 games of so in my best years. What part of Queen City did you live?
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12:44 |
: I live in the area (between Dayton and Cincy) not Cincy proper
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12:44 |
: my favorite place in Ohio is Jungle Jim’s
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12:45 |
Aw don’t feel so bad Dan, I’m sure that there are lots of people out there who think that about all of your articles 😉 |
12:45 |
: That did sound rude Dan but thank you for apologizing. The guys at Baseball America are very helpful
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12:45 |
: No offense taken. Love you, Simba.
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12:45 |
: I tend to use “bug X” as a less negative thing than most people
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12:45 |
: I’ll tell people to “bug me on Twitter for X” all the time
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12:46 |
: but saying “go bug other person” sounds really dickish and it was unintentional
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12:46 |
: Who are your favorite “closers-in-waiting” that are behind guys that are likely to be traded?
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12:46 |
: The latter makes it trickier!
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12:47 |
: Like Brock Stewart should be a closer at some point, but the Twins aren’t trading their closer
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12:47 |
: I’m not sure there are a lot of closers that are going to be traded really
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12:47 |
: I don’t think the A’s are trading Miller
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12:48 |
: So…Tanner Banks maybe?
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12:49 |
: the Nard Dog in Miami?
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12:49 |
: How valuable does ZIPS think Eddie Gaedel would be today?
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12:49 |
: I read all of your work and you obviously know a lot of math and stats. Did you learn about modeling and statistics while making zips? Or also in school? I’m trying to figure out how to do the stuff you do and wondering if you can give a bit of perspective. Thanks
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12:49 |
: Kinda out of ZiPS wheelhouse! (Gaedel, didn’t hit enter)
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12:50 |
: I majored in math, but most of the classes weren’t really directly applicable
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12:52 |
: and a lot I’ve forgotten, so please don’t send me differential geometry questions
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12:52 |
: I’ve always been interested in stat/prob though and I learned a lot growing up, even as a little kid
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12:52 |
: like I designed a little paper and pen baseball game with real stats when I was 8
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12:52 |
: and I had a complex D&D-like system (though less complex than that) for playing GI Joes and Transformers
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12:53 |
: and I was already tinkering with translations and had made Bill James’ Brock5 and Favorite Toy in Lotus 1-2-3 when I was in eighth grade
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12:54 |
: Is there an easy way I can see data for total complete games per season/team over the last 20 years or so?
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12:54 |
: You’d ahve to do a couple excel formulas
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12:54 |
: but the leaderboards give you enough data to do it easily
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12:54 |
: but not instantly!
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12:54 |
: How often does Fangraphs look at the positional adjustment for their WAR calculation, and how confident should we be when we compare players from different positions? If two players are otherwise quite similar, but WAR suggests one is worth more because they play second base instead of third base, would it be fair to judge them as similarly valuable players?
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12:54 |
: I think they’re roughly fair, if that makes sense
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12:54 |
: perfect precision here is fairly impossible
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12:55 |
: but remember, the largest chunk of the value still comes from the offense, which we ARE quite sure about
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12:55 |
: I know that this isn’t your area of expertise but I keep seeing that Cade Horton has a lat injury when it sounds like the injury is to his subscapularis. Isn’t that better described as a shoulder (or more specifically rotator cuff) injury?
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12:55 |
: This is definitely not my area of expertise
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12:55 |
: when they started calling injuries capsule injuries some years back, I assumed that pitchers had recently evolved a new body part
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12:56 |
: have you ever played thru any of the Diablo series?
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12:56 |
: Yup, though not II
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12:56 |
: I have IV, but I just havne’t played it as much as I expected. Not because I didn’t like it, but there are just so many games to play
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12:56 |
: And believe it or not, I spend a lot of time doing my job!
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12:56 |
: which MLB player could eat the most brats in one sitting
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12:56 |
: Chris Sale I bet
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12:57 |
: I know he had the cheesesteak record at one point
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12:57 |
: He doesn’t look like it, but he eats things like a Katamari Damacy ball
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12:57 |
: It seems like a crazy thing to say but it almost feels like Gunnar is going under the radar a bit. He’s on a 12 WAR pace!
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12:57 |
: He’s actually now #1 in ZiPS five-year WAR
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12:57 |
: Which happens first, a back-to-back World Series champ, or expansion?
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12:57 |
: expansion
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12:57 |
: would have said back to back 15 years ago
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12:58 |
: but I think we’re inching towards expansion
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12:58 |
: there have been murmurs about it and teams like cash infusions
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12:58 |
: And they’ll want to use it as an excuse to expand playoffs again, to eight division winners (barf) and six wild cards (barf)
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12:59 |
: What % would scoring increase if each team had a 28th out every game that they could deploy on offense in the inning of their choosing?
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12:59 |
: Wait, can they choose IN an inning?
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12:59 |
: Cause you’ll add at least a run per game just getting an extra out with the bases loaded or something
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1:00 |
: or do they have to choose befroe the inning?
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1:00 |
: Pitch sequencing seems like a big deal. There are rock paper scissors algorithms that learn tendencies and then consistently beat human players. How much is a similar system used by baseball teams? And how much just boils down to catchers calling for a pitch again cause the last one looked good. Or calling a different one so the hitter won’t expect it. Rather than something more data-driven and concrete.
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1:00 |
: This is one bit I’m not so sure about as I haven’t talked with a front office about it and I don’t really tinker much on the issue
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1:01 |
: I’ve wanted a pitcher to try and pitch by random selection as an experiment, but nobody has as far as I know
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1:01 |
: Hi! It seems like Jordan Westburg has pretty dramatically exceeded expectations this year—seemed like he was projected as a part time infielder/more of a bit player than a major contributor. Do you think he keeps this up? Regresses to
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1:01 |
: He’ll regress some, but there were always reasons to like him
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1:03 |
: Oh, ZiPS would offer 4/110 for Harper if he were a FA, which would absolutely not land him
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1:04 |
: Oops read wrong line, that’s three years
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1:04 |
: 4/140
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1:04 |
: still wouldn’t land him
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1:05 |
: Going back to Westburg, he’s at a 144 OPS+
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1:05 |
: in his PA so far, that would only be the 88th percentile projection!
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1:05 |
: (96 for a full season)
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1:05 |
: He already had a 20% chance at a 124 coming into the season
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1:06 |
: ZiPS had him with 15 WAR from 2025-2029 coming into the season
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1:06 |
: at 19 now
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1:07 |
: Who do you think we should be targeting to replace Pache/Dahl in left at the trade deadline?
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1:07 |
: I don’t think they’ll succeed, but the Phillies ought to be highly interested in Luis Robert
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1:08 |
: At what point do I start to believe Brandon Marsh is one of the best BAPIPers ever?
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1:08 |
: How old are you now? That is when
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1:08 |
: All the projection systems have his BABIP at .350 RoS
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1:10 |
: In 2025 projections, ZiPS currently has Marsh #2 in BABIP at .348
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1:10 |
: behind Nolan Jones, who has a park effect to thank
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1:11 |
: Some signs of life from Toglia lately. Any chance of him breaking through to being an acceptable major league starting 1bman?
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1:11 |
: Meh. He was like a wRC+ 115 (UNtranslated) guy in AAA, which isn’t impressive for a 1B
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1:11 |
: Maybe meh-minus
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1:11 |
: Seems like Jordan Westburg has dramatically exceeded expectations, going from a projected but player/part time infielder to a major offensive and defensive contributor in the orioles. Do you expect him to leep
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1:12 |
: I will note that ZiPS projected him as a three-win per year player from 2025-2029 BEFORE the season. So I certainly don’t like him less than I or ZiPS did in March!
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1:12 |
: We all knew Gunnar had power, but not like this. What do we think now? Epic random hot streak? Brady Anderson mystery 50HR season? Sustainable 40+ HR power?
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1:12 |
: I don’t think he’s gong to stay at 40 homers, but he’s elite
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1:13 |
: lol — D&D … sweet! Back in the day, a friend and I created a system for DUNE! Thanks so much for what you do! Of Schuemann, Schneemann, Austin Martin, Horowitz … who do you think might stick?
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1:13 |
: Martin’s certainly the most INTERESTING of them
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1:15 |
: I know this isn’t your area of expertise, but how will securities fraud investigations change after the Supreme Court’s decision this morning in Jarkesy?
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1:15 |
: Heh, REALLY out o fmy area of expertise
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1:15 |
: I imagine that we go back to pre Dodd-Frank limits on administrative remedies?
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1:16 |
: I’m not an expert — again, NOT NOT NOT an expert — but this feels like one of the many decisions that I think is correct even though I’m unhappy about the consequences.
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1:16 |
: KATAMARI DAMACY (DAAAMAAAHTSUIIIIIII) … hell yeah! Many nights with friends drinking and playing that on PS
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1:17 |
: But you should never ever ever be getting SCOTUS analysis from me
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1:17 |
: I am very surprised by the hitting of Joey Ortiz this year. In the past 2 months in 194 PA he has a 500 SL:G and 889 OPS. I see the projections systems aren’t buying it. What do you think?
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1:17 |
: This would be a very aggressive bump
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1:18 |
: but he always had a good chance to be really good
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1:18 |
: it’s not like the O’s didn’t like Ortiz. They knew they were trading someone would might be excellent. But they REALLY wanted Burnes
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1:18 |
: Why is Aledmys Diaz still on the A’s roster? Is it just because he can stand in between 2B and 3B and pretend to be a SS?
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1:18 |
: The A’s are standing in between April and September and pretending they’re a baseball franchise
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1:18 |
: so it seems on point
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1:19 |
: Which is the true Cardinals: the before May 12 Cardinals or the after May 12 Cardinals?
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1:19 |
: Something in between
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1:19 |
: Everyone projected them to be around .500
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1:19 |
: and they’ve been around .500
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1:19 |
: Dan, you’re running the Blue Jays. What are you doing at the trade deadline? Sell off free agents or sell everybody including Bo and Vlad? 2026 is looking scary.
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1:19 |
: I might actually sell if I haven’t been able to extend Bichette before then
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1:19 |
: This looks like a sellers market
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1:19 |
: and the Jays are in a pretty icky hole
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1:20 |
: not so far back in wins, but they have to leapfrog a LOT
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1:20 |
: Really enjoyed the piece on the 2016 Cubs last week. Had me wondering: does ZiPS give you the ability to plug in any player at any time to see what their projections would have been at certain points in their career? For instance, seeing what Beltre’s rest of career projections would have been after his last season in Seattle just to see how much he was crushing the aging curve by.
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1:20 |
: Yes, though not inseason
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1:20 |
: I can project Adrian Beltre after X season, but not after July 12th on X season as I’d have to take a few extra automated steps
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1:21 |
: (I’d have to get the in-season projection and then instruct ZiPS to then use THAT projection for the season in question)
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1:21 |
: Setting aside the feasibility of how it would get there, what animal escaping onto the field during a game would be most hilarious?
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1:21 |
: I think an elephant
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1:22 |
: Nobody in security is equipped to stop an elephant
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1:22 |
: and the elephant isn’t going to eat a player, which makes it more likely to stay hilarious rather than become tragic
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1:22 |
: Like tigers aren’t entertaining when one mauls Byron Buxton
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1:23 |
: is there any more annoying food fact than lunch meat is carcinogenic? (I’m having roast beef and cheddar today anyway)
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1:23 |
: I’m not quite sure it’s EXACTLY what you’re looking for
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1:24 |
: but I really hate unhelpful serving size proportions
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1:25 |
: I don’t know how many cookies three ounces of cookies is
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1:26 |
: and there used to be this generic brand of french bread pizza that had two french bread pizzas in the box, but the serving size was 2/3 of a pizza
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1:26 |
: HTF are you going to eat the second two thirds of a box of french bread pizza?
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1:26 |
: Heat up the 1/3 you didn’t eat from the first one and then bake the second one only to put two thirds of it in the fridge?
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1:27 |
: why is zips pro collusion /s
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1:27 |
: lol
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1:27 |
: oh god, it’s 130, I gotta go
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: Sometimes I get the vibe that you’re a libertarian, so I appreciate your refusal to discuss politics. Keep up the good work.
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1:27 |
: I’ve mentioned THAT at least
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: but I’m one of those wishy-washy pragmatic ones that ends up just coming off as a bland centrist
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1:28 |
: not one of those deranged ones that don’t pay taxes for 15 years or want to blow up everything on day one or make a troll caucus they name after Mises
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1:28 |
: which makes me a boring libertarian. And since I’m a Georgist, I have stances on things like land ownership that annoy other libertarians too
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: and really, I have no desire to browbeat anyone into thinking as I do. There are lots of worldviews out there, and there’s no reason for anyone here to give a fig about mine
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1:29 |
: I already annoy enough people with my day-to-day job.
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1:29 |
: And on that note, it’s time for me to head out!
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: Do you enjoy exercise outside of a sports capacity?
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1:30 |
: No. Exercise is best when you’re hitting something or breaking something or shoving someone or tackling someone
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Who says that they have to work for security though? Or is Aaron Judge backing down for contractual reasons? I’m sure that he is not allowed to battle elephants in the offseason but this would be different. |
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: Tigers are hilarious. You’re wrong
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elephant?
: Maybe an elephant isn’t going to eat anyone, but they could easily bring down a section of stands. I know we tend to think of the walls and stands as immovable objects, but to something as physically powerful as an |
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: Can it be more than one of a single type of animal? In that case I vote for a swarm of baboons to charge the field
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
The animal-on-the-field question is why I keep coming back for these chats. Thanks, Dan! My answer keeps it in the realm of possibility: An alligator. Some guy brought his “emotional support alligator” to a Phillies game last year, so hilarity could have ensued. Sadly, Wally is now missing.
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/03/1248880788/wally-alligator-missing-georgia