Dan Szymborski FanGraphs Chat – 7/15/2019
12:02 |
: Release the Chaten!
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12:02 |
: The lull in HS content has left me drifting to other F2P games, namely TFT. Have you played? Thoughts on the AutoChess genre?
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12:03 |
: Intrigued by it, but haven’t dipped my toes in yet. HS has been fun!
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12:03 |
: Do you have updated ZIPS numbers for Tatis? I know his babip can’t stay this good so what are realistic expectations for him?
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12:03 |
: You should see a WAR update in the trade value series. I may do something more substantial before the offseason.
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12:03 |
: Please confirm that your name is not in fact, “Szymbobski”
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12:03 |
: Sometimes I’m not even sure!
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12:04 |
: The reference is to Murray Chass’s blog about me about four years ago. I am the name of shame.
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12:05 |
: Any ideas on why more teams don’t build apartment/training facilities for their minor league teams at all levels. Even at a 2-3M cost per level, wouldn’t it be beneficial just for the longterm daily control it has on the players day to day actions.
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12:05 |
: Change comes slow. MLB teams like paying minor leaguers nothing and making it retroactive.
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12:06 |
: Trevor Bauer is playing for ________________________ by the trade deadline.. The Indians will receive _________________________ , _________________________, and ___________________ in return for the enigmatic, opinionated and durable Bauer.
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12:07 |
: Indians. I don’t think he’s traded. Maybe in the winter when they have a better idea on the status of the rest of their pitchers.
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12:07 |
: Given the turnover among Fangraphs staff in the past few offseasons, are we going to get a FG Author trade value series?
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12:07 |
: While that would be an amusing exercise, feelings will be hurt!
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12:07 |
: You wouldn’t want baseball players themselves doing a trade value series.
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12:07 |
: Is it time for the Indians to return Bobby Bradley and his sub .200 BA with 46 % strike out rate back to the minors?
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12:08 |
: I’m not there yet, it’s not like he has a huge sample size.
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12:09 |
: The Indians ought to explore him longer – they can always use the offense.
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12:09 |
: How many hot dogs are you going to eat today?
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12:09 |
: None, as far as I know
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12:09 |
: Have some chicken in the fridge to eat
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12:10 |
: and I’m making Königsberger Klopse tomorrow.
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12:10 |
: If I have two slices of bread then reattach them with an adhesive then does that make it one single slice of bread?
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12:10 |
: Only if the adhesive is bread-based.
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12:10 |
: Internet rumors are rampant that during the All Star festivities, one hotel in Cleveland reported that their housekeeping staff thought a room had been inhabited by The Who’s Keith Moon for a week…but turned out to a baseball writer celebrity instead. Thoughts Dan?
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12:10 |
: Dunno, I left my rental apartment nice and neat!
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12:11 |
: While I was in there more than I had expected, that was mostly because of a nasty hangover Sunday.
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12:11 |
: What do the Rays see in Choi to give him everyday at-bats? His bat seems light for a 1B/DH on a contending team.
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12:12 |
: Honeslty not crazy about him. The Rays have a weirdly long history with C- first basemen.
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12:12 |
: What do you think of Julio Urias/AJ Puk/Dustin May in a dynasty league? These 3 are the most obtainable in my league for young SP’s but I am not sure any could be considered an “ace” ceiling.
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12:13 |
: While they all have upside, May’s probably the safest
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12:13 |
: Do you think the Astro’s will use Kyle Tucker as a trading piece for a pitcher before this tread deadline?
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12:13 |
: I don’t think so
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12:13 |
: I’m Free! I’m Free! hahahahahah. Screw the crab cakes… I am all about the Chowda now!
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12:13 |
: Danny Boy, the pipes are calling! Can you see either Dyson or Hamilton of particular value to the Cubs as a CF and possible leadoff hitter for cheap? Dyson 34 and still average, but Hamilton in a buy low shelf since you can’t steal first base. One more… Do see McMahon of Rocs ever developing decent power?
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12:14 |
: Dyson’s far more interesting, though I think of him more as a role player on the Cubs.
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12:14 |
: Hamilton not so much.
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12:14 |
: Especially now that you have to acquire Hamilton earlier, which means he uses a 25-man spot longer.
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12:14 |
: Is Beef Vindaloo just Indian chili?
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12:15 |
: Beef? Your Indian place is weird if you’re getting beef.
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12:15 |
: MEOW MEOW I AM AN CAT!
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12:15 |
: Do you think something is physically wrong with Chris Sale? Last 8 starts he’s got a 4.38 ERA, and that’s WITH a shutout vs KC. Given up 4+ runs in 4 of those 8 starts, including 5 each in his last 3 starts. Is this all just mental, or is there something phisical with is?
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12:15 |
: Hard to tell – I thought something was physicall wrong until he went on that run in May/June.
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12:16 |
: I’m mildly concerned though.
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12:16 |
: The preamble to the trade value series has me thinking that the Padres really need to do something at the deadline to give themselves a shot since they’ve done the right thing and given up all that surplus value with Tatis and Paddack.
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12:16 |
: They’re slowly drifting out of contention though. Any move they make has to be someone that will be around after 2019, so no pure rentals.
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12:17 |
: So Mets want to trade Thor? Sure. Nationals go on a 12-game losing streak and make Scherzer available? Sure.
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12:17 |
: Rank YOUR top 5 prospects at this time. Please 🙂
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12:17 |
: I’m working on midseason top 100!
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12:17 |
: (Then we’ll do two per year starting next year)
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12:17 |
: Will there be donuts?
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12:18 |
: I only get donuts once a year. I’m fat enough from beer and not enough exercise. If I start eating terribly too, I’m going to need a rascal!
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12:18 |
: If Galileo or any other cat of yours becomes a spokes cat for Chewy.com we will know who the real sellout is Dan. Moving on. Who impressed you the most from the Futures Games activities? I assume you didn’t go all fanboy over McKenzie Gore.
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12:19 |
: Deivi Garcia looked absolutely nasty.
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12:19 |
: Dan. Lunch. Pause, please.
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12:19 |
: You know when my chat is, you gotta start eating lunch at 11:30 or 1:00!
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12:19 |
: Where is Jerry dipoto?
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12:19 |
: Set your radar to trades
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12:19 |
: Who says no first to Almora and Happ for Merrifield?
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12:19 |
: Probably Royals because Royals.
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12:19 |
: And really I’m not sure if that’s ideal for ROyals.
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12:20 |
: I think they’d overrate Almora, but not enough to overcome their weird belief that they’re on the edge of contending again.
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12:20 |
: Dan, so nice of you to join us a week late.
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12:20 |
: I was in Cleveland last week!
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12:20 |
: Is Kyle seager done?
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12:20 |
: I’m very rapidly getting there.
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12:21 |
: Domingo Santana gets traded yes or no?
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12:21 |
: I think yes and not just because Dipoto is his boss.
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12:21 |
: How many friends do you have that you would pop something on their back for? Do you need one more?
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12:21 |
: Eww
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12:21 |
: Andrew Cashner? Andrew… Cashner?
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12:21 |
: Who should Houston target? A stud like Boyd that costs a ton, or an inning eater like leake who costs way less?
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12:22 |
: Given the long-term uncertainty in the rotation, I’d want to target someone like Boyd who I would want long-term.
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12:22 |
: Which minor league organization will be the first to send their players across country in Conestoga wagons?
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12:22 |
: MARLINS ATTEMPT TO FORD RIVER, SIXTO SANCHEZ DROWNS
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12:23 |
: VICTOR VICTOR HAS DIED OF DYSENTERY
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12:23 |
: I feel like I wouldn’t be shocked if the Giants traded Bumgarner for a Darvish like package of a top 100 prospect and two other pieces, then again I feel like I wouldn’t be shocked if we got about what we got for McCutchen last year (a pair of top 20 org prospects). Where do you fall on that?
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12:23 |
: I’d be shocked at the former.
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12:23 |
: Any sense on teams’ recent/current ability to scout in Venezuela given political upheaval? There have been whispers that only certain terms were really able to watch things firsthand or is that true?
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12:24 |
: I haven’t heard anything specific other than general unease. I’d recommend saving this question for Kiley, who is way better connected in scouting world than I am.
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12:24 |
: % chance Boyd is pitching elsewhere on August 1? Who do you see as the top suitors?
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12:24 |
: 50. The Tigers are a little unpredictable.
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12:24 |
: How optimistic should we be about Daniel Ponce de Leon?
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12:24 |
: Moderately
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12:24 |
: Finish this sentence everyone:A week without a Dan chat is like:_________. I say a week of Sky Line Chili for breakfast lunch and dinner🤮🤮🤮🤮🤢
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12:24 |
: You guys should be thankful for a week off.
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12:24 |
: I still want to see you make baseball writer royal rumble
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12:25 |
: I *do* have Carson.
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12:26 |
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12:26 |
: Adam Eaton would have minor league players sleeping in the dugout …and be thankful for it.
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12:27 |
: When do you think the Orioles release Davis?
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12:27 |
: Not until last year or two probably.
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12:28 |
: I already would have out of mercy
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12:28 |
: Trade Bauer for Goldy and pick up Archer to replace Bauer?
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12:28 |
: Meh-minus
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12:28 |
: How legit is Yordan? BABIP won’t hold but the kid can mash.
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12:28 |
: The power is ultra-legit
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12:28 |
: Is a grilled cheese allowed to have anything other than cheese? Once you add something like ham then wouldnt it be a melt?
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12:29 |
: I haven’t given much thought to grilled cheese classification.
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12:29 |
: Though I like to put an egg in my grilled cheese. When you get the hang of it, you can bite into it and get a nice runny egg yolk too.
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12:29 |
: Above all …..Happy 1 year anniversary at FG Dan😀😀😀😀😀😀😃
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12:30 |
: Thanks! I hope you guys have enjoyed my work.
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12:30 |
: Does the Cashner trade move the needle for the Sox by more than 0.00%? Seems like a completely pointless acquisition.
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12:30 |
: I wrote a piece on it!
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12:30 |
: Nate Lowe gonna start all season you think?
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12:30 |
: I think he probably should.
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12:30 |
: dan will the phillies make the playoffs
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12:30 |
: I would lean towards no.
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12:31 |
: If I have two slices of bread then reattach them with an adhesive that is not bread based then does that make it a sandwich?
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12:31 |
: what is the nature of the hinge?
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12:31 |
: I’m not quite visualizing this
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12:31 |
: Measured in milliliters, what would you say is the average amount of winning you excrete in a day?
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12:31 |
: I’m good at existing more than winning
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12:31 |
: ITS CALLED BURGER KING, NOT TACO KING DAN! BURGER KING SHOULD STICK TO BURGERS AND LEAVE TACOS TO THE MASTERS AT TACO BELL!
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12:32 |
: I’m still fuzzy as to the nature of Burger King government. Is it a constitutional monarchy?
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12:32 |
: You seem to be implying that achieving “rascal status” would not be a positive for life goals. I, however, disagree
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12:33 |
: I meant this rascal
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12:33 |
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12:33 |
: Dan, Hitler used to eat lunch at 11:30 or 1. Nelson Mandela and Gandhi were strict 11 o’clockers. Be on the right side of history, Dan.
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12:34 |
: I celebrate not being Hitler by not being a vegetarian!
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12:34 |
: why arent the royals going to trade merrifield? he is 30 and will not be a good player when they are ready to compete again. i feel like the return for him would give them large boost in their next window. He would fit nicely with the cubs (amaya and happ/almora)
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12:34 |
: Because Royals.
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12:34 |
: It’s like asking why the president won’t just stay off of Twitter
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12:34 |
: The most likely player currently playing for not the Yankees who will be playing for the Yankees in August is _____________.
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12:34 |
: Stroman
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12:34 |
: Like they don’t have FG chats in Cleveland…
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12:34 |
: Yeah, think of our panel as a live Szym chat.
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12:34 |
: Does Greinke get traded? How does that contract affect his market?
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12:34 |
: I don’t think he does right now.
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12:35 |
: Galileo between two slices of bread would be: A) A Catwich B) Adorable C) slightly disturbing D) Lunch for your other two cats.
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12:35 |
: abd
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12:35 |
: abc
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12:35 |
: The other cats always respect Galileo’s authority.
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12:36 |
: Even Cassiopeia, who did not know Galileo at his peak, will be wary of him if he wants something.
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12:36 |
: do you think you could build a climate model from scratch dan if they gave you all the necessary parameters and such
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12:36 |
: I don’t know, maybe? Perhaps I’m being optimistic
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12:36 |
: There’s a lot of spcialized knowledge I don’t have
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12:36 |
: I’d probably do better at something more straightforward, like hurricane models.
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12:37 |
: But there are way smarter people than me doing that, so no real purpose.
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12:37 |
: Are bunt attempts included in my soft/med/hard hit rates?
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12:37 |
: I believe so, but I’m not actually positive.
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12:37 |
: Why would the Rockies sign Yonder Alonso? Wouldn’t it make more sense to see if they could teach Sam Hilliard to play 1B and bring his bat up to The Show if so? Is this just a case of the Rockies being the Rockies?
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12:37 |
: Well, the Rockies can always use offense and their manager doens’t know that WAR isn’t just player age minus 25.
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12:38 |
: Can the Astros get Boyd without Tucker or Whitley?
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12:38 |
: I think so, but it would have to be a decent package
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12:38 |
: But I’m not sure about the Tigers. They were quite unreasonable when it came to their Fulmer demands.
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12:38 |
: Astro’s grooming Josh James to be their #5 starter?
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12:39 |
: I believe he’ll be in the rotation long term.
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12:39 |
: I tried to search for that Fancy Adam Eaton Twitter account you often screenshot, but…it was some random guy who hasn’t tweeted in like 3 years. What gives?
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12:39 |
: It’s not a real twitter account.
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12:39 |
: I had a possibly mistaken belief that this was apparent!
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12:39 |
: Twitter doesn’t timestamp things in Fancy Time
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12:39 |
: What are the chances the Angels make a move for a controllable SP this year?
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12:39 |
: Low
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12:40 |
: Oh yes I really hate Murray Chassbobski now. Why didn’t you share earlier?! Is he going to try to have his grandson fight your grandson?
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12:40 |
: I don’t even have a grandson!
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12:40 |
: Or any kids, for that matter.
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12:40 |
: Digital Dandy???? What am I reading?!
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12:40 |
: That’s where I adopted that nickname.
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12:40 |
: please try to make sense of Gareth Morgan’s stat line this year. Is he as true a 20 bat 80 power as there is in the world of prospects?
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12:41 |
: I actually think he should be promoted. If you’re slugging .600, you’re probably not an environment in which you’re incentivized to work on other issues.
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12:41 |
: He’s being rewarded in A-ball for being extremely aggressive. At AA, that’s harder.
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12:41 |
: “The government is a lot like a Burger King. If you’re unhappy, you can ask to speak to the manager…but you will never get to speak to the owner.” – KRS-ONE
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12:42 |
: Is it true that a Manwich doesn’t include any amount of man?
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12:43 |
: It’s mostly ketchup based. They stopped including people after the people shortage during Spanish Flu.
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12:43 |
: Will Zips validate the rankings on THE BOARD? Just off hand, beyond Wander, THE BOARD feels a bit optimistic about the next 9 prospects.
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12:43 |
: You shoudln’t be using ZiPS to validate or invalidate other people’s rankings. It’s just another data-based opinion.
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12:43 |
: Twins still haven’ t lost three in a row. If they lose their next two games, they’ll have their first three game losing streak at game 94, which would be the tenth latest in a season a team had their first three game losing streak since 1900.
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12:43 |
: A grilled cheese is not a sandwich because the cheese acts as an adhesive and it is no longer two slices of bread
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12:43 |
: Interesting.
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12:44 |
: Have you given Teppen a shot yet?
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12:44 |
: No. If you want me to play, release it for Windows.
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12:44 |
: Hear me out. I get Stroman, and with so little time left, I just put Severino in the bullpen and if he comes back with Betances, just straight bullpen any nonTanaka/Paxton/Stroman game after a few innings (or any game that starts poorly). Chapman, Green, Kahnle, Ottavino, Britton, Severino, Betances. Also CC can be there too.
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12:45 |
: I’ve heard worse ideas
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12:45 |
: What was behind Jo Adell being upgraded to a 65? Is the bat tool looking better with his improved K/BB ratio?
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12:45 |
: Gotta ask McDongenhagen.
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12:45 |
: Why aren’t more people writing about Mookie Betts’ mediocre season?
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12:45 |
: I’m not sure I’d describe it as mediocre.
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12:45 |
: It’s just normal.
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12:46 |
: I’m not sure one can describe a 5+ WAR season as mediocre.
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12:46 |
: You sir, are a greedy greedy man and people should be able to enter your house and take your belongings.
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12:46 |
: Which Fangraphs alumni did you see in Cleveland?
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12:46 |
: Travis obviously since he was at our panel. Sat with Mike Petriello some during Futures.
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12:47 |
: That’st when he revealed that Statcast didn’t collect data for the celebrity softball game
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12:47 |
: Which really disappointed me.
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12:47 |
: do you think the Angels could go on a run similar to what the Redskins did 10 years ago after Sean Taylor’s death?
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12:47 |
: Probalby not. Baseball’s not an emotional game in that sense where you can carry that high for 60 games.
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12:49 |
: Rizzo’s comments about pitching inside sure seem to come across as pretty whiny, no?
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12:49 |
: Their teammate got hit in the helmet after all.
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12:49 |
: Jordan Lyles or Trevor Williams ROS?
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12:49 |
: Twilly
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12:49 |
: Robel Garcia!!!! Thoughts?
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12:50 |
: I had to do a Robel projection for DMB midseason update. For the first time ever, it looked like no hitters would debut that I didn’t run a projection for.
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12:50 |
: Betts’ 2019 WAR is 3.6
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12:50 |
: Yes and it’s mid-july
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12:50 |
: Offensive WAR 2.7 c’mon Dan
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12:50 |
: If that’s mediocre, you gotta relearn the word.
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12:50 |
: 3.6 WAR in July is having a 5+ WAR season.
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12:51 |
: Even if he *finishes* at 3.6 WAR after playign replacement level for 2 1/2 months, that’s still not a mediocre season.
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12:51 |
: will you be storming area 51 in September?
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12:51 |
: No
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12:51 |
: I think it woudl be funny if they were successful and they find out Area 51 is just where the government stashes old couches that they find on curbs.
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12:52 |
: And let’s be honest, the first dumbass getting shot will just send them all running the other way
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12:53 |
: Unarmed weirdos is not a highly efficient army.
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12:53 |
: To piggyback on the Astros starter questions…if you assume Kyle Tucker is necessary to land someone like Boyd/Stroman/Bauer/Syndergaard…better to do that? Or target a rental like Wheeler and keep Tucker?
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12:53 |
: If you can get a Syndergaard, then you can talk about the better prospects.
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12:53 |
: With the adhesive “sandwich” I think I was visualizing it differently than an earlier comment about bread and adhesive. I was visualizing it as adhesive on the broad sides of the bread, where as I now think the earlier commenter was visualizing it as adhesive connecting two pieces of bread to make a longer piece of bread (not thicker)
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12:53 |
: I’m gong to need a practical video or something.
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12:54 |
: You can’t just launch bread-based adhesive questions at me going in cold.
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12:54 |
: Ryan Yarbrough or John Means. Trying to compare the two. Any thoughts, Dan?
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12:54 |
: Still prefer Yarbrough, but Means’s changeup is good enough that he’s interesting
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12:54 |
: Dan. If you held A Loser Leave Town match or a Texas Death Match or A Royal Cat Rumble. Galileo would win?
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12:54 |
: Like me fighting him? I can take him.
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12:55 |
: No cat can defeat laundry basket jail
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12:55 |
: If a team had four pitchers combine for a perfect game, should the rest of the team expect four spectacular gifts from each pitcher, like a divorced Christmas situation, or four mediocre gifts, like a shared birthday party?
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12:55 |
: I think the pitchers have to combine and buy a single spectacular gift together.
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12:56 |
: It’s mediocre for a supposed superstar — ok I’m done, thanks for doing these chats
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12:56 |
: What does mediocre for a superstar mean?
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12:56 |
: Teams don’t win games relative to expectations.
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12:56 |
: Betts is having a normal star-level season. He’s not Mike Trout
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12:57 |
: Usain Bolt isn’t mediocre if he runs a 9.90 100.
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12:57 |
: Is it time for a beer? Or maybe a snack?
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12:57 |
: No, I have Oakland radio in a few minutes.
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12:57 |
: If a grilled cheese is not a sandwich, then you can’t consider a PB&J a sandwich, which is silly.
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12:58 |
: I think they meant the cats in a match
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12:58 |
: Do you think there’s any chance of a Mackenzie Gore September callup?
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12:58 |
: That might be a little aggressive.
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12:58 |
: If hitters are allowed to bat-flip and admire homers (which I believe they should), then pitchers should be allowed to bang a giant gong when they strike a guy out
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12:58 |
: I’d be in favor.
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12:58 |
: On that note, I have to go a couple minutes early today as I have a 1 PM appointment.
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12:58 |
: Thanks for coming everyone! Hope to see you all next week.
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Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.
John Means or Ryan Yarbrough? Your thoughts?