David Price Sheds an Albatross
To date, there have been 71 pitchers who have thrown at least 60 postseason innings in their careers. Entering Wednesday, David Price owned a 5.42 ERA, the second-highest of the bunch:
| RK | Player | Yrs | IP | HR/9 | BB/9 | SO/9 | ERA | FIP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Tim Wakefield | 1992-2008 (9) | 72.0 | 1.6 | 4.8 | 6.8 | 6.75 | 5.63 |
| 2 | David Price | 2008-2018 (9) | 79.2 | 1.7 | 2.5 | 8.1 | 5.42 | 4.67 |
| 3 | Al Leiter | 1993-2005 (5) | 81.2 | 1.0 | 4.0 | 7.5 | 4.63 | 4.29 |
| 4 | Charles Nagy | 1995-1999 (5) | 84.2 | 1.5 | 3.2 | 5.8 | 4.46 | 5.11 |
| 5t | Vida Blue | 1971-1975 (5) | 64.2 | 0.8 | 3.2 | 6.5 | 4.31 | 4.02 |
| 5t | CC Sabathia | 2001-2018 (9) | 129.1 | 1.0 | 4.4 | 8.4 | 4.31 | 4.30 |
| 7 | Kevin Brown | 1997-2004 (3) | 81.2 | 0.9 | 3.4 | 7.8 | 4.19 | 3.87 |
| 8 | Clayton Kershaw | 2008-2018 (8) | 140.0 | 1.2 | 2.6 | 9.8 | 4.11 | 3.66 |
| 9 | Matt Morris | 2000-2005 (5) | 73.1 | 1.1 | 4.2 | 5.4 | 4.05 | 4.99 |
| 10 | Zack Greinke | 2011-2017 (5) | 67.0 | 1.2 | 2.0 | 7.9 | 4.03 | 3.86 |
| 11 | Livan Hernandez | 1997-2007 (4) | 68.0 | 0.8 | 4.8 | 6.2 | 3.97 | 4.55 |
| 12 | Andy Pettitte | 1995-2012 (14) | 276.2 | 1.0 | 2.5 | 6.0 | 3.81 | 4.16 |
| 13 | Jack Morris | 1984-1992 (4) | 92.1 | 0.9 | 3.1 | 6.2 | 3.80 | 4.12 |
| 14 | David Cone | 1988-2000 (8) | 111.1 | 1.0 | 4.7 | 7.6 | 3.80 | 4.48 |
| 15 | Don Gullett | 1970-1977 (6) | 93.0 | 0.5 | 3.7 | 5.8 | 3.77 | 3.83 |
There are some very good pitchers in the above group, including one who’s already in the Hall of Fame for his, uh, postseason reputation and a few more who have a very good shot. The best of them, Clayton Kershaw, has been dogged by inconsistent performances in the postseason, but he’s had big moments as well, including Wednesday’s NLCS Game Five performance against the Brewers.
Kershaw’s October ups and downs don’t compare to the ongoing struggles of Price. Not only had the 33-year-old southpaw never notched a win — obligatory raspberry blown at the stat — in any of his 11 postseason starts, he’d rarely even pitched well, managing just four quality starts, and failing to complete five innings in his previous three turns for Boston, including Game Two of the Division Series against the Yankees and Game Two of the ALCS against the Astros. Thanks in part to just 28 runs of offensive support in those 11 starts, his teams had gone 1-10.
Whatever the reasons for Price’s failures, mundane or mysterious — remember the pitch-tipping stuff from 2015, when he was with the Blue Jays? — it’s been rather gruesome to watch those games, and even moreso to watch fans and media pile on him, because the vast body of evidence from April through September indicates that David Price is a top-flight pitcher. Not Cy Young-caliber anymore, and maybe overpaid relative to his current production, but not a guy about whom a manager should think twice giving the ball.
“Hasn’t pitched well in the postseason” isn’t the same as “can’t pitch well in the postseason,” however, and if you have any investment in something beside the narrative tropes that power our nation’s most irate radio hosts and columnists, it had to come as some relief to see Price deliver six shutout innings against the Astros in Game Five of the ALCS on Thursday night, helping the Red Sox clinch their first AL pennant since 2013 and their fourth of the past 15 years.
Maybe Price succeeded because he was reading Sheryl Ring’s suggestion regarding his repertoire:
That said, maybe scrapping the cutter in favor of greater changeup usage could work. Price’s change garnered a 19% whiff rate this year against right-handed batters — more than twice what any of his other pitches recorded against the same hand — despite posting a slightly negative run value. Price has actually underutilized the change this postseason — which could be a product of specific matchups, sure — but it appears as though it might have some use as an alternative to the cutter.
From among his 93 pitches, Price threw 39 changeups to the Astros — his highest total since July 9, 2015, when he was still with the Tigers — and they swung and missed at 12. He mixed in just 13 cutters, fewer than any of his starts this year in which he didn’t get a quick hook for performance or health reasons. He allowed just three hits, didn’t walk a batter, and struck out nine, his postseason career high.
And he did it all on three days of rest, moving forward in the rotation because Game One starter Chris Sale is still recovering from a stomach bug — that after warming up in the ninth inning on Wednesday night, in case closer Craig Kimbrel couldn’t complete a two-inning save. His Game Score (Version 2) is tied for the fifth-highest of any Wild Card Era pitcher working on three days of rest, and the highest since Josh Beckett closed out the 2003 World Series:
| Rk | Player | Date | Series | Tm | Opp | IP | H | R | BB | SO | HR | GSV2 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Mike Mussina | 10/15/97 | ALCS 6 | BAL | CLE | 8.0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 10 | 0 | 92 |
| 2 | Denny Neagle | 10/11/97 | NLCS 4 | ATL | FLA | 9.0 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 91 |
| 3 | Josh Beckett | 10/25/03 | WS 6 | FLA | NYY | 9.0 | 5 | 0 | 2 | 9 | 0 | 89 |
| 4 | John Smoltz | 10/24/96 | WS 5 | ATL | NYY | 8.0 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 10 | 0 | 81 |
| 5T | Andy Pettitte | 10/19/03 | WS 2 | NYY | FLA | 8.2 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 79 |
| 5T | David Price | 10/18/18 | ALCS 6 | BOS | HOU | 6.0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 0 | 79 |
| 7 | Andy Pettitte | 10/24/96 | WS 5 | NYY | ATL | 8.1 | 5 | 0 | 3 | 4 | 0 | 77 |
| 8 | Hiroki Kuroda | 10/14/12 | ALCS 2 | NYY | DET | 7.2 | 5 | 3 | 0 | 11 | 0 | 75 |
| 9 | Curt Schilling | 10/31/01 | WS 4 | ARI | NYY | 7.0 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 9 | 1 | 74 |
| 10 | Clayton Kershaw | 10/13/15 | NLDS 4 | LAD | NYM | 7.0 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 8 | 1 | 73 |
Price lowered his career postseason ERA to 5.04, which is to say that he’s still second on the leaderboard atop this post (which also includes two other pitchers who appear in the second table as well, Kershaw and Pettitte). The body of work, which includes some strong relief showings in 2008 with the Rays and 2016 with the Red Sox, still stands out for the wrong reasons. But he shed an albatross on Thursday night, and in doing so helped to knock off the defending world champions. It’s a performance worth savoring, yet another reminder that small-sample “hasn’t” doesn’t equate to “can’t.”
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
Every unclutch player is unclutch until they’re clutch
The top table somehow clashes with my memory of Tim Wakefield in the playoffs, but looking at the game logs…in 54 innings for the Red Sox, his ERA was 8.00!
It was the Pirates for whom he kicked ass in the playoffs.
Some of that is distorted by how the Red Sox chose to use him in the postseason. As a knuckleballer, they often threw him on the fire to mop up garbage time, etc, because they knew he could bounce back better than any of their other staff members. He wore the 19-8 loss in the 2004 ALCS, for example.
Still, overall, Wakefield wasn’t as good of a pitcher in general as the memory of him. (even measuring by ERA, which is much more accurate than FIP in this case) As with most knuckleballers prior to the current bullpen era, a huge chunk of their value was tied up in the fact that they could soak up innings with absurd flexibility and better-than-average quality. If it weren’t the fact that Steven Wright is inexplicably a top-of-the-rotation starter when healthy, I suspect the Red Sox would be using him similarly to how they used Wakefield.
Hmmm, matches up with my memory of Wakefield’s playoff performances, which, in its entirety, is:
AARON EFFING BOONE!
From memory I thought he was going to win ALCS MVP in 2003 (until the Boone homer of course). I was quite surprised as well.
My buddy in Boston and I were chatting before the game and we were both uneasy about Price because of his shaky record.
And then he went out and got it done.
My hat is off to you, Mr. Price. Well done.
I’m gonna need you to go ahead and write an article about that Rafael Devers home run, okay? Specifically, how the eff often does a ball hit with that launch angle and that exit velocity ever turn into a home run? That looked like a can of corn off the bat.
Thanks,
Lumbergh
(Note, I’m not actually sure the exit velocity was bad, but it didn’t look great. Might have just been an optical illusion of the launch angle, which was definitely steep)
The exit velo was 101.5 mph, the launch angle 38 degrees, the estimated distance 359 feet, and yet it was a homer. In other words, that’s a Crawford Boxes special.
I think the Gonzalez HR was 98 mph off the bat, similar estimated distance
Half-sized green monster helps.
I really think a big part of last night was game 2. Where he pitched pretty well after giving up those 4 runs. When Boston took the lead in the 3rd, he came out in the 4th and had a shutdown 1-2-3 inning. Even though he gave up 2 walks in the 5th still kept them in the game leading… I think that was kind of an exhale moment for him…..
I do think it’s interesting Price was on 3 days rest. We’ve had that in quite a few times this postseason- and almost every time the starter pitched really well I think…. It’d be interesting to see some analysis on that.
Lmao @ the downvotes. C’mon, stats are important but that doesn’t mean we can’t evaluate what happened subjectively. How else can we evaluate and define new stats?
I have the feeling that pitching once on 3 days’ rest isn’t generally a big deal.
They still haven’t played any good teams yet. Just wait til the world series starts.
lol wut?
WTH? The Yankees and the Astros are, by any baseball definition, very good teams.
Well played.
It’s not exactly reasonable to compare Price to Wakefield and Leiter, given the differences in offensive environments. ERA- is the stat you should be using.
Love the premise of this article: a small sample doesn’t matter because a much, much smaller sample says otherwise.
That byline lol
Out of curiosity, how are wins an “obligatory raspberry” but quality starts (6 innings with an ERA no worse than 4.50) noted as if they’re useful/notable when the second is the “save” for starting pitchers?
You are right, you correctly identified the lower bound for being awarded a quality start. What is the lower bound for a win? Well, just five innings (so easier) and no cap on the runs allowed, also easier.
And your team has to score more runs while you are in than you allowed, not really easier or harder from the pitcher perspective.
And your team has to ultimately win via offense and bullpen support, also not easier or harder from the pitcher perspective, except I suppose the deeper you go, the less you have to lean on that bullpen.
So, perhaps neither is great, but one is more stringent *and* doesn’t have team dependent conditions, so I think it is fair to call that one as less raspberry deserving than the other.
In 85 2/3 postseason innings (almost half a season) he’s allowed 50 total runs, a 5.04 ERA and a 1.24 whip; perhaps his record isn’t due to poor run support but poor pitching?