Derek Dietrich Winds ‘Em Up and Lets It Fly
“You have to be good to be a hot dog,” said Pirates play-by-play broadcaster Greg Brown during Tuesday night’s Reds-Pirates contest, quoting Dock Ellis to conclude an anecdote about the May 1, 1974 start in which the Pirates’ free-spirited righty intentionally drilled the first three Reds he faced. In illustrating the long and oft-heated rivalry between the two teams, Brown appeared to arrive at an epiphany regarding the home run celebrations of Derek Dietrich — a subject of unhealthy fixation that had dominated an often cringeworthy broadcast while clumsily recapitulating the game’s generational culture war. The 29-year-old utiltyman had just clubbed his third dinger of the game, fourth of this week’s series, seventh in eight games against the Pirates, and 17th overall, the last a career high and a total tied for fifth in the majors.
Dietrich, who spent six years toiling for the Marlins before being designated for assignment and released last November (stellar personnel management there, Jeets), isn’t a player over whom opponents generally obsess. Beyond being a bat-first type whose defensive versatility depends upon certain levels of tolerance, he’s earned a reputation as something of a cut-up. In the minors, as a member of the Double-A Jacksonville Suns in 2013, he put on a display of his juggling skill that progressed to as many as five balls, then to bowling pins, literal machetes, and flaming torches:
On May 5 of this season, when the Reds wore throwback uniforms from 1911, Dietrich wore a fake mustache made out of eyeblack, and homered that day to cap a back-to-back-to-back three-pitch barrage:
The next day, when a swarm of bees invaded a Reds-Giants game, Dietrich masqueraded as an exterminator:
The night after that, when the lights went out at the Oakland Coliseum, Dietrich showed up ready for work as a handyman, with a homemade utility belt:
Alas, that was the night that the Reds were no-hit by the A’s Mike Fiers.
Fortunately, Dietrich is playing well enough to get away with applying an extra dollop of mustard. Through Wednesday, he’s hitting .262/.368/.713 for a 170 wRC+. His slugging percentage would rank fourth in the NL and his wRC+ fifth if he weren’t 30 plate appearances short of qualifying for the batting title. Even while largely sitting against lefties, his home run frequency is within an eyelash of topping anyone with at least 100 PA in a season:
| Player | Tm | Year | HR | PA | HR/PA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ted Williams | Red Sox | 1953 | 13 | 110 | 11.82% |
| Derek Dietrich | Reds | 2019 | 17 | 144 | 11.81% |
| Matt Olson | A’s | 2017 | 24 | 216 | 11.11% |
| Barry Bonds | Giants | 2001 | 73 | 664 | 10.99% |
| Gary Sanchez | Yankees | 2019 | 17 | 155 | 10.97% |
| Mark McGwire | Cardinals | 1998 | 70 | 681 | 10.28% |
Obviously, not all of the above seasons are complete ones. Williams produced his flurry of homers in a 37-game stretch after returning from a combat assignment as a pilot during the Korean War. Olson did his damage during a 59-game stint as a rookie. Sanchez, like Dietrich, is homering at a near-record clip at a time when the entire majors is averaging 1.33 home runs per team per game, the highest rate in history.
Like Sanchez, Dietrich has been taking particular advantage of a single opponent within a front-loaded season series schedule, in this case the Pirates:
| Player | Team | Opponent | Games | HR |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gleyber Torres | Yankees | Orioles | 12 | 10 |
| Gary Sanchez | Yankees | Orioles | 11 | 9 |
| Christian Yelich | Brewers | Cardinals | 10 | 8 |
| Derek Dietrich | Reds | Pirates | 8 | 7 |
| Mike Trout | Angels | Rangers | 10 | 6 |
| George Springer | Astros | Rangers | 10 | 6 |
| Paul Goldschmidt | Cardinals | Brewers | 10 | 6 |
| Joey Gallo | Rangers | Angels | 9 | 5 |
| Renato Nunez | Orioles | Yankees | 12 | 5 |
| Eddie Rosario | Twins | Blue Jays | 7 | 5 |
In his years with the Marlins, Dietrich had never particularly wrought havoc against the Pirates, batting .231/.241/.327 in 54 plate appearances against them and homering just once, a solo shot off Trevor Williams on June 10, 2017. From the outset of this season, however, he’s been like Bugs Bunny tweaking Elmer Fudd. On Opening Day, in his first plate appearance as a Red, he swatted a three-run pinch-homer off Pirates reliever Richard Rodriguez, a blow that broke open a 2-2 game and proved decisive.
Fast-forward to April 7. After going 2-for-4 with a double the day before, Dietrich homered off Pirates starter Chris Archer, dropping the bat and admiring his 436-foot, two-run blast, which bounced into the Allegheny River just beyond PNC Park’s fences. Archer, himself prone to demonstrative displays on the mound, took umbrage, and in Dietrich’s next plate appearance, sailed a 93 mph fastball behind the hitter’s back. After both benches were warned, benches cleared, with Yasiel Puig offered to take on all of the Steel City:
Though Archer — who was not ejected at the time, but later drew a five-game suspension — went on to strike out Dietrich twice in that game, Dietrich rebounded to hit a two-run homer in the ninth inning off Nick Kingham, though the Reds ultimately lost, 7-5.
While the Pirates held Dietrich in check for most of Monday’s doubleheader — he was 0-for-5 with a hit-by-pitch before stepping to the plate in the seventh inning — he took Alex McRae over the wall in that plate appearance. Again he dropped the bat, started slowly out of the box, and took his own sweet time to round the bases. When Puig followed with a solo homer, he sped around the diamond at about double Dietrich’s speed:
Via the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette’s Bill Brink, Dietrich offered some tongue-in-cheek humor afterwards:
“Honestly, I was a little anxious the first couple at-bats. I talked to my hitting coach, Turner Ward, and he said slow it down, slow yourself down, and back it up, and that’s what I did. Unfortunately I got out a little slow out of the box again because I slowed down and I backed it up. I’m going to listen to my coaches. I’m very coachable.”
…“I was just glad that Yasiel picked me up. That was the joke about it, I guess, after the fact,” Dietrich said. “We had to even out the times, so he definitely picked me up, and it’s funny that he’s the guy that did that. I could expect maybe Joey [Votto] or even [Eugenio] Suarez to do that, but when Puig does it, it makes it that much better.”
Monday’s home run and its aftermath did not sit particularly well with Brown and his booth-mate, analyst John Wehner. The latter, who spent parts of 11 seasons in the majors (nine of them with Pittsburgh) while hitting a grand total of four home runs, aired his grievances as guest on on the 93.7 Fan Morning Show:
“I can’t stand him… I don’t understand why you have to do that. It’s different if you’re a Hall of Fame player, you’re a 60-homer guy, you’re an established guy. Nobody ever heard of him before this year. I heard of him because of his grandfather [Steve Demeter] who used to be a minor league coach for the Pirates. He was the sweetest guy in the world. He’s rolling in his grave every time this guy hits a home run. He’s embarrassed [because] of his grandson.”
Now, that’s some chutzpah. Here we can only presume that Wehner himself is auditioning to be Dietrich’s grandmother, arguably the only person with the standing to express embarrassment on behalf of his late grandfather. In a professional playing career that spanned from 1953-72, Demeter played 15 games in the majors with the Tigers (1959) and Indians (1960); he was traded straight up for Norm Cash in a 1960 deal that some Cleveland fans haven’t forgotten. He spent more than 30 years working for the Pirates’ organization as a minor league manager (1972-80 and ’87), coach (including 1985 with the big club), instructor, and scout. He died in 2013 at the age of 78.
More on his role in Dietrich’s life below, but first, more inappropriate speculation from the Pirates’ broadcasters. They made Pittsburgh’s new Public Enemy Number One the focal point of Tuesday night’s pregame segment, with Wehner airing his personal revenge fantasy:
“I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a message sent to Dietrich. Certain guys aren’t going to be bothered by it, other guys will be and eventually, he may end up getting hurt. I’m not saying the Pirates or some other team. He might do it to the wrong guy and then gets hit, breaks a bone, might miss some time and maybe he’ll get around the bases a little quicker.”
Hooboy. Stay off his lawn, kids.
When Dietrich, playing first base in place of Votto (who was out with a tight hamstring), batted in the first inning, Brown and Wehner indulged — and I mean indulged — in some conjecture. Said Wehner, “You know, if [Reds manager] David Bell was out prior to the game talking to the home plate umpire, discussing whether or not Dietrich gets a ball thrown at him, then that would suggest that he thinks that Dietrich did something wrong. [Pause] If that was what they were discussing. Who knows.” The words if and suggest are doing so much work in those sentences that they could rightfully file a complaint with OSHA.
The pair then discussed the polarizing nature of on-field celebrations and MLB’s “Let the Kids Play” campaign. “Why does baseball have to be like other sports? I don’t get it,” asked Brown. “I don’t get what’s so cool and fun about standing there watching a ball, and taking forever to get around the bases,” said Wehner, strongly implying that he himself had never hit a 430-foot home run against a heated rival whose pitcher had previously thrown at him.
The inning ended with Dietrich grounding out to first baseman Josh Bell, but the diatribe continued into the commercial break, with Brown confusing the spectacular with the banal by suggesting that Bell “should have jumped around right in front of Dietrich, up and down.” At the start of the second inning, the broadcast displayed the home run trots of Dietrich and the normally demonstrative Puig side by side to show the contrast in style and speed, then showed a clip of Puig — who in his seven major league seasons has caught endless grief from the fustiest guardians of The Right Way to Play the Game — bypassing Dietrich in the dugout, as if to suggest some measure of disapproval, a thread that both broadcasters desperately tugged at for a couple more minutes.
At the top of the third inning, Dietrich-fest continued, with sideline reporter Robby Incmikoski setting up a short segment from Monday’s postgame interview. “I let it rip and traveled the bases. That’s it,” said Dietrich. “I don’t do anything intentionally to show anyone up, I don’t do anything against any other team, I just hit the ball and whatever happens after that, you know, I come back in and try to do it the next time.”
Not exactly inflammatory stuff, but enough to keep the home(r) fires burning, with Brown taking his turn to speak on Demeter’s behalf: “I just can’t imagine that if he were alive today that he would approve of it. Obviously, we don’t know him as well as even Derek did.”
As the broadcast cut to photos of Demeter and a young Dietrich wearing various Little League uniforms, Wehner invoked another violent fantasy, saying, “I’d like to think Steve Demeter would slap him upside his head… I guarantee he would tell him it was uncalled for.” Just when you thought that he’d gone completely off the rails, he backtracked to say that Demeter was “one of the nicest men alive… a very, very friendly man, so humble and kind.” Brown pointed out that Dietrich has the words “Let it fly” tattooed on his arm as well as the dates of his grandfather’s birth and death, a reminder to respect the game. “That’s not respecting the game, the way he goes around the bases,” replied Wehner.
As so often happens, this was a case of Old Men Yelling at the Wrong Clouds. You may be thinking to yourself that the phrase “Let it fly” does not sound like advice from 1950s Squaresville when it comes to on-field conduct, and you’d be correct. From a 2013 story about Dietrich by the late Juan C. Rodriguez of the Sun Sentinel:
Tattooed on the inside of his left wrist are the words, “Let It Fly.” That was the mantra Demeter instilled in his grandson. In February, Dietrich added his grandfather’s dates of birth and death under the phrase.
“That’s always been his advice,” said Dietrich, a sophomore at Georgia Tech when he got the tattoo. “It pertains to offense and defense. Let it fly. Have fun out there. That’s kind of how I go about my business. He had so many things throughout his life and throughout our conversations that I’ve taken from him.”
Whoops.
When Dietrich came to bat with one on in the fourth, he destroyed Pittsburgh starter Jordan Lyles’ first-pitch changeup, dropped the bat, got out of the box a bit more quickly, brushed hands with first base coach Delino DeShields on his way down the line, then jumped and patted the bare head of third base coach J.R. House, who had doffed his helmet, as he rounded towards home. “A new move after this one,” sighed an exasperated Wehner. Throughout the inning, the broadcast kept cutting to Dietrich on the bench, perhaps hoping to catch him grabbing his crotch while doing a cartwheel. In his next plate appearance an inning later against Geoff Hartleib, Dietrich swatted another two-run homer; though he again dropped his bat, he played the trot straight.
As he came to bat in the seventh inning, facing Hartleib again, Brown began telling his Ellis story, and of the 1970s-vintage battles between the Lumber Company and the Big Red Machine. Mid-anecdote — which was prolonged by a visit from pitching coach Ray Searage — Dietrich followed with his third two-run homer, the aftermath of which included a bit more flair in the form of a Michael Jordan-like shrug to the Cincinnati dugout as he headed to first base. Here’s the supercut of the three homers, alas with Cincinnati’s broadcasters and camera angles (you’ll have to pull up MLB.tv to partake in the Pittsburgh POV):
“And there’s a drive to right. He has hit three home runs!” said a suddenly animated Brown, finally getting into the spirt of admiring an impressive individual performance now that the Pirates were down 10-0. “Holy smokes! Derek Dietrich, three two-run homers in three consecutive at-bats. First career three-homer game and… that is something else.” After Dietrich’s curtain call, Brown circled back to the Ellis story: “You have to be good to be a hot dog.”
“Huh,” huffed Wehner as the broadcast cut to a commercial.
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Dietrich’s performance has now livened up several clashes between the two division rivals, both very much in the thick of the NL Central race despite subpar records (27-27 for Pittsburgh, albeit with a -63 run differential, and 26-30 for Cincinnati, but with a +36 differential). As for what’s changed from his time with the Marlins, during which he hit .254/.335/.422 (109 wRC+) while homering in 2.8% of his plate appearances, the biggest difference in his mechanics appears to be the position of his front (right) foot, which he used to set up well behind his back foot in a more open stance before his stride brought his feet parallel, as in this March 31, 2018 home run off Yu Darvish:
Now, he sets up with his feet closer to parallel, as you can see from the Archer home run (again), with his bat less upright as well:
There’s probably more to the change than what I see from randomly flipping through a dozen home run clips on Baseball Savant, but that’s what’s most apparent. The results have been dramatically different:
| Year | GB% | FB% | EV | LA | Barrel% | xwOBA | O-Swing% | K/BB | SwStr% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2018 | 40.7% | 36.0% | 87.4 | 15.7 | 6.1% | .303 | 34.4% | 4.8 | 11.3% |
| 2019 | 32.6% | 52.2% | 88.3 | 20.4 | 18.3% | .393 | 28.3% | 2.3 | 11.6% |
Dietrich is elevating the ball with more consistency, and while his average exit velocity remains modest, his rate of barreling the ball has tripled, and with it, his xwOBA has skyrocketed. He’s cut his chase rate and halved his strikeout-to-walk ratio despite a slightly higher whiff rate. He’s doing virtually all of this against righties. Wednesday’s start against Pirates lefty Steven Brault was his first against a southpaw this year; he’s 3-for-13 with a double against them.
I’ll go out on a limb and suggest that Dietrich will not continue to challenge the likes of Bonds, McGwire, and Williams when it comes to home run frequency. Nonetheless, he’s become a much more powerful and entertaining hitter who has certainly added spice to the lower reaches of the NL Central standings. Here’s hoping he continues to chip away at the crustiest corners of the game.
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
I’ll never understand these old-timers who think MLB is some sort of military bootcamp. No smiles, no fun, no swagger – just keep your head down, respect your superiors, and follow orders. And get a haircut while you’re at it…
Guys, it’s a game.
It’s always the people losing who want to tell you about the right way to play the game.
Not really the case here as the Bucs have beaten up the Reds this year, 7-3 in 10 games.
Pretty sure he meant in the context of the games/broadcasts (like the 3 HR game)
We must protect Derek Dietrich’s home run trots at all costs.
While I agree that a lot of the old-timers need to lighten up, some of what Dietrich has been doing comes across as clearly disrespectful. Do a little bat flip, a coordinated high five or handshake with your 3rd base coach, or anything of that nature. But standing in the batters box for multiple seconds to watch the ball? Taking a day and a half to get around the bases? You or your manager shouldn’t complain when you get drilled by someone.
However, in watching his behavior in all of these Pirates/Reds games this year, I don’t even think it is his intent to be disrespectful. I think he is just a weird dude. But if I were a teammate of his, I would try and straighten him out because it might be one of them suffering the consequences of his actions.
Yikes
oof
Just to be clear, standing in the box for “multiple seconds” deserves being hit with a pitch, which can kill someone or severely injure them?
I love how it is often said that they “shouldn’t try to hurt someone” as if you could possibly control that outcome while throwing a baseball 90+ MPH at a person. The “safe HBP” is a ridiculous myth.
It takes a certain kind of person to blame a victim for being bullied
I want to go on the record as saying fuck the idea that bat flips or watching the ball are disrespectful to anyone. Many baseball players are apparently little baby men who need delicate treatment if they give up a big hit.
This. This. A thousand times this. The levels of insecurity that would be necessary to be offended by someone else’s celebration is kind of mind-boggling.
You apparently don’t know all MLB players. A lot of them still hate flashy bat-flips and look-at-me acts on the field.
You can say what you like about me, but you don’t get to dictate MLB culture. The players will settle that.
I know that the Joey Bats bat flip in the playoffs against the Rangers upset some people, but it absolutely made my day. And I’m not a Blue Jays fan.
I love bat flips. I love celebrations. Just open up and let it rip. The baseball game is a party. Maybe don’t yell obscenities at the pitcher afterwards, but have some fun.
Agreed. Nothing about this kind of celebration is disrespectful to the opposing pitcher. And even if it was, disrespect does not justify risking seriously injuring someone with a beanball.
And come to think of it, I’d be in favor of introducing trash talk to baseball.
The point of baseball is that it’s supposed to be a TEAM game: pitcher and catcher, 4-6-3, managers and basecoaches, AAA depth, trainers, advanced scouts, nerdy analysts etc. Showboating of any sort, as if you’re doing this without anyone else’s help seems very self-serving.
I wouldn’t object if they brought out some of the nerdy analysts to join in on pimping the homer and trotting the bases when one of the guys they helped hits a dinger.
Actually the point of baseball is to generate money for the owners.
This makes no sense. A bat flip in no way suggests you feel bigger than the team or that no one has ever helped you. What? Those things just aren’t connected.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a message sent to Wehner. Certain listeners aren’t going to be bothered by it, other guys will be and eventually, he may end up getting a flaming bag of dog poop on his doorstep. I’m not saying it’s Dietrich or some other player. He might rant about the wrong player and then get dog pooped, smell terrible, and miss some time broadcasting, and maybe he’ll be a bit more respectful of other human beings and their dead relatives
There wont be any message to Wehner, the Bucs whole broadcast team is super old-school. Which is kinda funny with the way that Greg Brown loses his mind when something good happens. Brown loves to take digs at advanced stats and theory all the time. Wehner is a typical yinzer Pittsburgh sports fan.
Bringing his grandfather into it is WILDLY out of line. If I were the Pirates, I’d be ordering him to make on air and in person apologies.
A thousand times this, talk about disrespectful actions.
Where can I get a Derek Dietrich jersey?
There’s certainly a Streisand effect going on here. I hadn’t heard about Dietrich until these comments came up, but I’ll certainly be watching him now. I guess the big takeaway is that the Reds are super fun? Time to go vote for Dietrich for the ASG.
Dietrich’s got an incredibly pretty swing and bat drop. Reminds me of, *ducks in anticipation of flying tomatoes* Ken Griffey Jr., in some ways.
This was a fantastic article Jay. Really good stuff. I hope Dietrich pimps another dozen homers against the Pirates this year.
The best way to keep someone from “pimping” a home run is to not allow one. The worst part of this entire thing is Chris Archer’s own antics on the mound. Pot meet kettle.
Hot Diggity Dog! Pass the mustard please!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHhheCf0G1I
Now I really need to see Josh Bell jumping up and down around Dietrich.
That would be so hilarious. Make it happen!
that juggling video is simply the best thing anyone will watch on the internet today. all ten minutes and eight seconds of it. the ad-libbing, the performance. it’s simply a work of art.
i hope he hits 50 in that little league park. the more, the merrier.
Not a big fan of “homer broadcast teams” in general but the Pirate broadcasters aren’t alone in this kind of rhetoric. So is this going to be a series of articles on mlb broadcast teams or does Jaffe just not like the Pirates. I will say I agree that Wehner was way over the top and he compounded the problem by not being able to let it drop.
I’ve never seen another broadcaster saying that a player’s grandfather would be turning in his grave, because of the way that player plays baseball.
I know Wehner was the offending party with the grandfather in this instance, but the Pittsburgh broadcast team frequently goes overboard with beanball stuff. Several years ago, they had an issue with Arizona; I think Goldschmidt got hit and broke his hand, and the next day, Cutch took one in the back as retaliation. For several years afterwards, Brown would bring this up in games against Arizona. It got so bad that one time, while he was ranting and raving, Tony La Russa (when he was in Arizona’s FO) came INTO the Bucs broadcast booth to confront him about it mid-inning. If you’re down in the muck with La Russa, that’s just a terrible look. It’s an embarrassment and makes them look incredibly unprofessional. I can’t say I’m surprised.
That’s awful. In any other legal profession, encouraging violent actions against a competitor is certainly grounds for dismissal, only baseball and its unwritten rules.
Came for the bat flips, stay for the roasting of Derek Jeets.
Why does it seem the Pirates organization is always around this kind of stuff? It’s probably just me thinking of Clint Hurdle, but this old school no fun approach to baseball seems to be interwoven in that org.
I looked at what happened in the rest of that series this week, and sure enough, the Pirates beaned Eugenio Suarez yesterday, who it says had to leave the game. I have no idea if it was on purpose, but it’s hard to give them the benefit of the doubt when the Pirates have already thrown at Dietrich this year and consistently talk about retribution for breaking ‘unwritten rules’.
Just stop. There is literally no downside to baseball players having more fun. The only people who can’t handle it need to check their egos at the door and start enjoying the game.
The Suarez hbp was a small grazing of his hand on an inside pitch, not intentional.
It probably wasn’t, mainly because I would hope that no one is that silly to throw at a different guy. I would have no way of knowing. But the problem with throwing at players earlier in the season is that it doesn’t get people to believe you when you don’t intend to do it. Archer and Hurdle probably should have been suspended longer for that incident in April, but MLB seems to want to undermine their own Let the Kids Play campaign.
I saw Bell’s (reds manager) post game comments too , and I sincerely hope it was just him blowing off steam, because if this starts a bean ball war, it’s going to be just as idiotic on the other side. Stop throwing at people, MLB clubs!!!
Bitter old Wehner is just aping bitter old Marty Brennaman. We can only hope this ignites a bitter old radio broadcaster feud that culminates with dueling pistols on Blennerhassett Island.
I am old, but not old school. One of the iconic moments in the long, long history of baseball was the “Great Bat Flip” offered, for all the world to see, by Jose Bautista. Other memorable moments have evolved around supposed slights and disrespecting of the game. Get embarrassed, then retaliate. Such wonderful memories of Jason Varitek planting his catcher’s mitt in ARod’s face and Pedro neatly placing Don Zimmer on his keister would never have occurred without actions similar to Dietrich’s. Maybe something will happen during this weekend series, the Sox need something to wake them up.
Oh man, the Joey Bats homer-bat flip was one of the best moments I’ve seen in years. Some of these jerks would take offense to Kirk Gibson pumping his fists after hitting a homer in the world series. I like it when my players look like they’re having fun.
Stuff like bat flips or admiring shots don’t really show up the opponent, it’s a celebration of their own achievement. Hitting is incredibly hard, you gotta pimp ’em when you get ’em.
His shrug after the 3rd home run made me giggle like a toddler and reminded me how many amazing stories happen every year in MLB
That was a truly great “Can you believe what I just did” moment
The reason Dietrich watched his first home run against Archer was that Archer had done it to him previously:
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/sporty-videos?playId=8911401a-ab31-4047-b076-8baef83c1a72
It’s AMAZING how many people are missing this. Also being missed: the Pirates PR people have promoted that Archer is demonstrative; he’s their ‘fun, edgy’ guy they’re trying to sell to the younger generations.
Odd that Dietrich has hit 7 off the Bucs, who are near the bottom in HRs allowed. He has 1/9 of their total, and no one else has more than 3. And he’s not in the top 12 of PAs against them.
No one since the first expansion has hit more than 9 in a year off the Bucs, and that was just once (Schmidt ‘74). Dietrich’s already tied for 11th on that list.
The part of this post giving Jay Jaffe’s views on baseball’s culture war isn’t for me. And that’s fine.
But as to factual matters … When I read that Dietrich has a historic rate of HR/PA “even while largely sitting against lefties” — as though that fact works against him — I must point out that it obviously HELPS his HR rate, since he has a typical platoon split and a much lower HR rate against southpaws. What possible reason was there to frame the sentence that way?
Yinzers will be Yinzers and Dietrich will Let it Fly
I personally don’t mind the styling. That said, it’s not just a game. This is how these guys make a living. Throwing inside is something pitchers do. It helps them do what they are paid to do. And it isn’t just Dietrich. A teammate might get plunked. You can criticize the jerk pitcher who threatens broken bones or worse. But that is part of the sport and almost certainly always will be. You can make the punishment harsher. I don’t like it, but I don’t think you can just say don’t be a baby and don’t give up homers. Pitchers are likely a bit testy right now with the homer fest.
If a teammate gets plunked, it’s not Dietrich’s fault. It’s the fault of the pitcher who plunked him.
You’re missing his point.
There is zero reason to accept the status quo.
I’m not accepting it, but I have nothing to do with it.
Like I said, i don’t mind Dietrich admiring his home run, bat flips, etc. I enjoy it sometimes. And I do blame the pitchers. I don’t agree with Wehner harping on it (and I’m 4 years older than he is).
But I think it’ll be something that happens (retaliation pitches, which happen even when the opponent hitter doesn’t style a homer, but just because he hits them, such as Clemens beaning Piazza, etc) long after John Wehner is dead.
I think it has something to do with the nature of the sport, the nature of the people that play it, in front of thousands of people in person, millions on tv, etc, amped up, embarrassed, etc.
I didn’t mean to justify it. It seems like some kind of bizarre overreaction to potentially wound a guy, or kill him, and somehow that became the self-policing method to prevent worse (like what, a gang war? I don’t know). Although Dietrich is king of getting plunked and he seems physically fine. Love the sense of humor, the exterminator bit, etc. Nice to see a guy busting out and having fun with it.
I just don’t think it is simply an old school thing or generational. Older guys abhor the headhunting retaliation, too. I think it won’t go way any time soon no matter how much attitudes change. You can have harsher punishment for plunking a guy, but intent is hard to prove. You can make it not an issue of intent. Plunk a guy after a homer. Strict liability.
Gotta love Jay Jaffe hatin’ on Wehner for only playing 11 years in the majors.
This article is a little heavy-handed in telling us what we should think about Dietrich and his antics. Reads like a Yahoo Sports article.
And they wonder why attendance is Down. Leftist liberals whining about logos, the “right” way to play the game, etc. is there anything liberals don’t take the fun out of? Anything? It’s a physical sport. The players are human. Let them express themselves. If a player is triggered let them be triggered and move on. Jesh, there are many other entertainment choices. Baseball better stop squeezing the joy out of the game.
Um…what?
What I remember most about the ‘70’s Pirates, WAS their ‘new school’ approach and characters.