Does Baseball Need to Reassess the “Right” Way to Play?

This is Ashley MacLennan’s sixth and final piece as part of her August residency at FanGraphs. Ashley is a staff writer for Bless You Boys, the SB Nation blog dedicated to the Detroit Tigers, and runs her own site at 90 Feet From Home. She can also be found on Twitter. Read the work of all our residents here.

“You gotta take care of your teammates sometimes. With me, if hitting a guy in the leg is what I have to do, then that’s what I did… I take care of my teammates and protect them.” Those were the words of Tigers relief pitcher Alex Wilson in the immediate aftermath of one of the most absurd and raucous games of baseball in recent memory.

Alex Wilson makes his contribution to last week’s contretemps between the Tigers and Yankees.

During the August 24th day game between the Tigers and Yankees, the benches cleared three times and eight people were ejected, including players, managers, and coaches. Multiple players on both teams were – intentionally or not – hit by pitches. An array of fines and suspensions followed.

It was, for lack of a better word, a disaster.

It was also an object lesson in one of baseball’s most notoriously silly and problematic unwritten rules. The unwritten rules — a subset of conventions that dictate baseball etiquette but don’t exist in any official capacity — are intended to mandate how players act on the field and to establish repercussions if those players fail to abide by the code. Grandstanding and bat flips are a no-no, as we saw when Texas Rangers second baseman Rougned Odor sucker-punched Toronto Blue Jays outfielder Jose Bautista as revenge for Bautista’s famous 2015 postseason bat flip. Punishment is usually swift for someone who breaks the rules, but grudges often carry over into subsequent seasons.

The trouble between the Tigers and Yankees began when Gary Sanchez was hit by a wild Michael Fulmer offering. The errant pitch was perceived as intentional, the Tigers pitcher suggesting in its aftermath that the Yankees catcher ought to stop showing off. (Sanchez had hit four home runs in one series.) Whether it was intentional is beside the point, however. The end result was a clash between two teams attempting to show each other up over and over, all in the name of the unwritten rules and an antiquated notion of how baseball is “meant” to be played.

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Since one of those pitches, a wild toss from Dellin Betances, nailed Tigers catcher James McCann in the head, it’s time we look at whether or not the old-school way is the right way, or as much a thing of the past as chewing tobacco in the dugout. Maybe it’s time to rethink what the “right way” is.

In March, Tigers second baseman Ian Kinsler received some scrutiny for the way he spoke about the on-field enthusiasm exhibited by the Puerto Rican and Dominican teams during the World Baseball Classic. Kinsler, about as old school as they come in the MLB today, said, “I hope kids watching the WBC can watch the way we [the US] play the game as opposed to the way Puerto Rico plays or the Dominican plays. That’s not taking anything away from them. That just wasn’t the way we were raised.”

In a sense, Kinsler has a point. American players are raised with these rules indoctrinated in them, the idea that the game is serious and must be played within a rigid set of expectations, where undue excitement is cause for censure. When Yasiel Puig started playing for the Dodgers, there were reports every week about his bat flips or his cavalier attitude — all behavior that failed to fit the mold of an ideal ballplayer, from the perspective of the MLB.

Again, this brings us to the question: what’s the right way to play baseball?

Bryce Harper has some thoughts on that subject, saying last year in an interview with ESPN The Magazine, “Baseball is tired… you can’t express yourself.” Harper, who is among the more flamboyant young athletes in the game, with his famous hair tosses and red-hot swing, launched a “Make Baseball Fun Again” campaign, wearing a hat with the slogan around the Nationals clubhouse. In many ways, Harper may actually be a pioneer for baseball, helping to bridge the gap between the old guard and a new generation of players like Puig, Javier Baez, and Francisco Lindor, who wear their joy and frustration openly.

Harper applauded the Jose Bautista bat flip, saying, “I enjoyed seeing it. And I think Major League Baseball enjoyed seeing it… What an incredible moment for baseball, just as a fan of the sport.”

And he’s right. At 24 years old, Harper may have a better understanding of what it means to play baseball properly than anyone else throwing intentional lobs or making mental notes about a too-jubilant bat flip. Yes, the same Harper who tried to throw his helmet at Hunter Strickland this May in what was a long-boiling feud, where Strickland felt slighted by Harper’s past home runs against him. In 2014.

That’s the absurdity of baseball. It is, in the minds of the veterans, perfectly reasonable to hit someone with a ball if he committed an injustice against you three years ago, but it’s not okay to show delight at a long-hit home run.

Baseball may be considered America’s pastime, but it isn’t exclusively America’s game. In countries like Puerto Rico, Venezuela, and the Dominican, baseball is a part of children’s lives. It’s often the most affordable option for families to keep their children entertained. Carlos Beltran recalled his youth in Puerto Rico for the Players Tribune. “When Santa came, he always brought sports stuff,” remembered Beltran. “A basketball. A volleyball. A new pair of spikes. Santa never brought electronics.” Along with this, young Puerto Rican children learned about Roberto Clemente as part of their nation’s proud history.

Many young Puerto Rican players have been raised with an awareness of just how far their accomplishments can carry them. There’s more to it than simply playing a game they grew up watching on the couch with a mother or father. Rather, there’s a sense of gratitude for being able to enjoy the game of their heroes. These aren’t just the romantic musings of an American, either. Consider: Puerto Rico’s WBC side stirred up so much excitement that there was an actual hair-bleach shortage in the country because so many people wanted to mimic the team’s signature style.

The point being, there are other ways for the game to be experienced and played that are just as right as the American standard, and it’s this exuberant approach towards which younger players like Harper seem to be gravitating. Perhaps there’s a very good reason that baseball’s award for the player who “best exemplifies the game of baseball, sportsmanship, community involvement, and the individual’s contribution to his team” is named for Clemente.

Next time a brawl breaks out over a petty on-field squabble, or a player or team are publicly called out because they don’t play the right way, we need to adjust our perspectives, and so does baseball. There isn’t one right or wrong way to play anymore, and joy or pride shouldn’t be factors that result in exclusion or reprimand. Baseball could stand for a little more energy, a little more childish glee, and maybe a few less punches.





Ashley MacLennan is a writer and editor for the Detroit Tigers blog Bless You Boys, and deputy manager for the Tampa Bay Rays blog DRaysBay. Her writing has been featured at FanGraphs, and the Hardball Times, as well as on her own website 90 Feet From Home. Find her on Twitter @90feetfromhome

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Psychic... Powerless...
9 years ago

Yes.

JoeMember since 2016
9 years ago

Love this comment and if your user name is a reference to the first Butthole Surfers album, I love it even more.

Psychic... Powerless...
9 years ago
Reply to  Joe

It is! I considered using Psychic… Powerless… Another Man’s Sac Fly, but opted for brevity.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago

Amen. It’s a game! And it’s entertainment. Taunting is one thing, but sometimes people are happy. And that’s okay!

P.S. Please stop throwing at people’s heads. Beanball is no good.

CliffH
9 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The head shot was almost certainly not intentional

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

The headshot was on an 0-2 count.

Fulmer, meanwhile started everything off when he drilled Sanchez with his first pitch for hitting a homer off of him.

Kinda weird to see the author use the same word to describe both pitches…but she is a Tigers fan.

Brad WesleyMember since 2025
9 years ago

Awesome article. Very well written and a great read. Have really enjoyed reading all your work throughout your residency. Thank you!

ssf
9 years ago

You’re still perfectly welcome to think Odor is a scumbag or whatever, but describing what happened as a sucker punch done in revenge for a batflip is a pretty serious mischaracterization of what went down. Bautista retaliated against the HBP(the actual revenge) with an incredibly late slide aimed at Odor’s back knee(Bautista trying to get revenge against the revenge), and Bautista got in his face afterward and was squaring up when Odor punched him(revenge against Bautista’s revenge).

Baron Samedi
9 years ago
Reply to  ssf

u guys sure that was a hurricane or r u still drowning in your own tears?

EonADSMember since 2024
9 years ago
Reply to  Baron Samedi

That is crass at best and awful at worst. You ass.

Baron Samedi
9 years ago
Reply to  EonADS

Oh, relax.

LHPSU
9 years ago
Reply to  Baron Samedi

Looks like that punch dealt permanent brain damage.

If there ever was anything to damage.

froston
9 years ago
Reply to  Baron Samedi

You are the hero Fangraphs needs

Free Clay Zavada
9 years ago
Reply to  ssf

It’s really not a sucker punch though. I wouldn’t even include all this other stuff about the dirty slide, not incredibly relevant. The two men were already involved in a confrontation and then Odor threw a punch. The way that it struck Bautistia’s face makes it almost look like a sucker punch, but it isn’t.

ssf
9 years ago

Broad point is that the slide was what prompted the confrontation. I’m not a mind-reader but I doubt very strongly Odor was thinking about Bautista’s bat flip at all.

BMac
9 years ago

Dude, this isn’t hockey. The punch was a total shock to everyone. Definition of a sucker punch. If Odor wasn’t ready for the hard slide then he just wasn’t playing attention.

Morris Buttermaker
9 years ago
Reply to  ssf

Definitely not a sucker punch. Also Harper didn’t thow his helmet at Strickland or he would have hit him.

Anyway, bring on the bat flips and the resulting hpb.

TKDCMember since 2016🏆 MVP
9 years ago

Yes, Harper tried to throw his helmet at Strickland and it slipped out of his hand, so technically you are right that he didn’t throw it at him. Probably saved him one or more extra games on his suspension.

Morris Buttermaker
9 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Get out. He slammed it to the ground 10 ft wide of the pitcher. From 15 feet away. Thats not a slip. He was just pissed.

TKDCMember since 2016🏆 MVP
9 years ago

Have you ever tried to throw a helmet while running at full speed? Look at the video again. Yes, he misses badly. If it had not slipped, he would have probably hit him (he might actually be a shade closer than 15 feet when the helmet leaves his hand. Strickland certainly thought he was throwing it at him, as he turns and crouches defensively. Look at the motion of Harper’s arm. It is going straight toward Strickland, but the helmet slips out too early so it goes way off to the side.

I’m not saying it is impossible that he was doing this as some sort of diversionary tactic in order to gain an advantage in the fight. He at least wanted Strickland to think he was throwing his helmet at him. But if you are going to run out and try to fight a guy with your fists, is it really so crazy to think you’d throw a helmet at him? Is it really more likely that he just happened to throw it away to the right at pretty much the perfect time to gain an advantage in the fight? People in fights don’t think that way. It’s not impossible that he was trying to throw it to the side, but the video evidence and common sense say that he was trying to throw it at him and it slipped out of his hand. Choosing the time right before you are about to get to the pitcher to toss your helmet to the side would be incredibly poor timing. Of course, he’s not going to admit that (maybe he will after he retires).

Morris Buttermaker
9 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

He wasn’t running when he threw his helmet, he didn’t really “charge the mound” in the traditional sense. Though you’re right it was a bad decision. Because he threw his helmet so late he was distracted and got decked when they closed up. But he didn’t throw it at Strickland or use it as a diversionary tactic.

jfree
9 years ago

Harrumph!! These young players should respect tradition – and get off my lawn.

CalebD86Member since 2017
9 years ago

WANTED
More: childish enthusiasm and glee
Less: childish pouting and tantrums

In regards to pitchers griping about bat-flips/pimping a HR – If you don’t want the batter to show you up, don’t give up the dinger. In 2016, the batter won the at-bat battle less than 33% of the time, struck out 21% of the time, and hit a HR about 3% of the time. Batters don’t whine about a pitcher celebrating a huge strike out, so pitchers shouldn’t complain when the batter crushes a mistake pitch. The right way to play the game is to do what it takes to win the game within the established, written rules.

texanthony
9 years ago

I think there is a middle ground to be found here. Game 5 8th inning go-ahead home runs are awesome. And to see a player like Bautista express his emotions and excitement through a bat flip are special. That moment will be remembered more *because* of the bat flip, and that may not be a bad thing. However, if you’re bat flipping up 12 in the 8th in a July contest with a position player on the mound, that may not be the best message to send to our younger generation coming up learning to play the game. Playing the game “old school” and “making baseball fun again” may not be mutually exclusive.

tung_twista
9 years ago
Reply to  texanthony

In theory, you are right, but in practice, it is a moot point,
because when has anybody in MLB done a bat flip in a situation remotely close to the one you described?

Johnny Dickshot
9 years ago

A tired topic.

The Ghost of Johnny Dickshot
9 years ago

I’m here…ooooooooooo

tmthjdbMember since 2016
9 years ago

Puerto Rico is not a country

Baron Samedi
9 years ago
Reply to  tmthjdb

Donald Trump is not my president.

Free Clay Zavada
9 years ago
Reply to  tmthjdb

You should take that up with the WBC.

Baron Samedi
9 years ago

Right: Dingers, Strikeouts, Bat Flips
Wrong: Sac bunts, “putting the ball in play,” Puritanical Repression

Baron Samedi
9 years ago
Reply to  Baron Samedi

If this gets more downvotes, then the answer is “not until more old men die”

LHPSU
9 years ago
Reply to  Baron Samedi

We can’t wait until you do the same.

YKnotDisco
9 years ago

suck·er punch
noun
1. an unexpected punch or blow.

What exactly was Bautista expecting? Them to hug it out?

Baron Samedi
9 years ago
Reply to  YKnotDisco

Punching doesn’t win baseball games.

YKnotDisco
9 years ago
Reply to  Baron Samedi

Their performance this season doesn’t help win baseball games either.

LHPSU
9 years ago
Reply to  Baron Samedi

Neither does Jose Bautista, anymore.

Llewdor
9 years ago

Unwritten rules are not rules.

jrl133Member since 2025
9 years ago

I don’t think there’s a “right” way to play to play baseball except maybe to “play to win”, but there may be a way to be a “professional” baseball player, or a “professional” in any sport or occupation.

Being a “professional” comes with a set of expectations regarding work ethic, respect for the craft, honesty and integrity, health and appearance, and all of the soft skills that come with the job.

So are bat-flips and beanballs unprofessional…probably. Sliding into second spikes up…sure. Wearing your uniform unbuttoned half way down your chest with a PR flag t-shirt…yeah, that too. ZZ Top-style beard? Yup.

So I think you could throw out all those umwritten rules about not stealing bases with a six-run lead, or celebrating every base hit with hand gestures to the dugout and you’d still be left with a lot of unprofessional behavior.

There may not be one right way to PLAY the game but there are some expectations about how it should be played by professionals

FranklinP
9 years ago
Reply to  jrl133

How is dividing players’ on-field conduct into “Professional” and “Unprofessional” (exchanging a nebulous concept [right] with another [professional]) and then using arbitrary expectations to determine the conduct falling under each heading not just The “Right Way To Play” home game? The only distinction I can see is one was developed over the century+ history of the league by those playing in it, and the other is based on the opinions of “a dude.”

timprov
9 years ago
Reply to  FranklinP

If it’s “professional” then MLB and MLBPA can co-develop an explicit Code of Conduct if they want to.

connjc
9 years ago
Reply to  jrl133

The definition of “professional” is up for debate. Certainly different businesses have different dress codes or sets of understood behaviors. What is considered professional behavior at your stereotypical video game company probably doesn’t fly on wall street. What is considered professional in the MLB is again up for debate as the players themselves don’t appear to agree. Really this is the heart of the issue. It continues to be debatable what the acceptable behavior is. And it really shouldn’t be debatable when the potential punishment is injury via a 95 MPH fastball.

piddy
9 years ago
Reply to  jrl133

Other professional expectations
– suit and tie
– keep running to a minimum
– no swinging baseball bats while at work

Captain Tenneal
9 years ago

I’m not sure what the right way to play baseball is, but if you’re hitting people in the head as retaliation, you are most definitely playing it the wrong way.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago

It was an 0-2 count.

I honestly have no idea why she equivocated between Dellin and Fulmer, especially considering that the Yankees had already plunked a Tiger in retaliation.

TKDCMember since 2016🏆 MVP
9 years ago

A lot of times, adults acting like immature children is euphemized to “enforcing unwritten rules” when really it is just one or more adults acting like petulant children.

There certainly isn’t agreement on what these rules are, or we wouldn’t see brawls.

And the enforcement of the rules is very one sided. Pitchers are essentially enforcers. But really there is no more justification to a pitcher throwing a ball at a hitter than a hitter throwing a bat at the pitcher.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Thanks, Manny.

The main thing for me is that, if you drill someone, take enough off the ball to make sure you put it in the small of their back.

That Barnes shit earlier this year was horrendous.

TKDCMember since 2016🏆 MVP
9 years ago

I don’t agree with, but understand, hitting guys when your guys get hit. Hitting players for how they celebrate is always bush league, even if the guy is being an asshole. If someone is being enough of a jerk, they should be ejected from the game. These pitchers need to grow up.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Yup.

Strickland is an absolute punk.

MarkNJ55
9 years ago

Is this Huffpost?

Let the players settle issues on the field.

wubbie075
9 years ago
Reply to  MarkNJ55

I agree completely! They should all go at each other with bats and crowbars and knives and axes “Gangs of New York” style! Then baseball could make a crap-ton of extra money by putting the games on PPV!

Doug LampertMember since 2016
9 years ago
Reply to  MarkNJ55

The game has rules, those rules don’t allow throwing at players or punching them. If someone violates the rules that is NOT “playing the game the right way”.

I’m with Wubbie075, if you’re going to “let them settle it on the field” and by that you mean by throwing at each other, then why not just hit someone with a bat? Swinging a bat is part of the game too. Except swinging AT SOMEONE is not, but then neither is trying to hit someone with a pitch.

Pirates HurdlesMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  MarkNJ55

Yep, grown men should act like immature teenagers, enforcing tit for tat stupidity. Even hockey as all but eliminated fighting from the sport and its run like a garage league by a bunch of old Canucks.

Daniel
9 years ago

These have all been great articles. Thanks for the residency, and I’ll look forward to following your work in the future.

ashlandateam
9 years ago

“That’s the absurdity of baseball. It is, in the minds of the veterans, perfectly reasonable to hit someone with a ball if he committed an injustice against you three years ago, but it’s not okay to show delight at a long-hit home run.”

PREACH

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  ashlandateam

The issue is that not a single veteran thought it was remotely alright for Strickland to throw at Harper, much less “perfectly reasonable.”

Strickland’s a punk.

London Yank
9 years ago

The real story about what happened in the Yankees-Tiger game is about the umpiring and the league office. They are the ones who really failed in this situation.

Michael Fullmer very clearly hit Gary Sanchez on purpose. Everyone in the stadium knew it. The umpires should have immediately ejected Fullmer and warned both benches. If that happens it’s over.

Instead the umpires pretended it was an accident. Kahnle then very clearly threw at Miguel Cabrera in retaliation and missed. At that point the umpires should have issued a warning to both benches. Instead, they throw Kahnle and Joe Girardi out of the game. Now, not only have the umpires allowed the situation to escalate, they’ve also seriously disadvantaged the Yankees by taking a pitcher away from them and by failing to take a pitcher away from the Tigers.

Then, Miguel Cabrera attacks Austin Romine. Cabrera pushes and swings at Romine. Romine quite reasonably defended himself. The umpires should have thrown Cabrera out of the game. Instead, the umpires throw both Cabrera and Romine out. Now the umpires have disadvantaged the Yankees again. They’ve removed they Yankees catcher, and forced them to surrender their DH for the remainder of the game, since Sanchez was forced behind the plate.

Next, Betances hits McCann with a fastball in the head. It was pretty horrific, but also clearly unintentional. At that point in the game there was no way the Yankees were looking to retaliate. Also, Betances struggles to hit the broad side of a barn in the best of times. His first pitch strike down the middle was as likely to be aimed at McCann as was the pitch that actually hit him. The umpires correctly deemed it unintentional at first, but then overruled themselves after complaining from Brad Ausmus. This was the least egregious of the umpire’s mistakes, but it also disadvantaged the Yankees by costing them a pitcher and their acting manager who were both ejected.

Then Robertson unintentionally hits the next batter. The umpires correctly recognise it as such and no action is taken. If Betances is thrown out because the benches were warned even though the umpires did not believe the pitch to be intentional, then surely Robertson must be tossed too. But if this umpiring crew was consistent in anything it was their lack of predictability.

In this entire episode the Tigers intentionally hit two Yankees with pitches (Sanchez and Frazier), and physically attacked a third (Austin Romine). The Yankees tried to intentionally hit one player (Cabrera), and defended themselves and their teammates against Cabrera during the most dramatic of the bench clearing episodes. Despite this, the Yankees lost the most players due to the bizarre decisions of the umpiring crew and this disadvantage very well may have cost them the game.

Finally, the suspensions from the league office were also bizarre. How can Austin Romine be penalized two games for defending himself against the attacks of Miguel Cabrera? How can Betances not get a single game if the umpires tossed him out of the game for retaliating? How does Michael Fullmer not get anything even though he started the entire episode by intentionally targeting Gary Sanchez? These suspensions would have never happened had the umpires done their jobs and tossed Michael Fullmer. The suspensions may yet cost the Yankees future games.

In the end, there will likely be no repercussions for the umpiring crew that screwed all of this up.

Scraptacular
9 years ago
Reply to  London Yank

I created an account on Fangraphs just to respond to this. I’ve been an Indians fan since 1980 and have hated the Yankees passionately all this time. And yet I wanted to chime in to say that London Yank is absolutely 100% correct.

Perhaps there needs to be some written and unwritten rules for umpiring the game the right way.

JD, Too
9 years ago

No.

minny505
9 years ago

This is a frequent topic of discussion in my home. My wife is a very casual MLB fan. She comments all the time about how grumpy and pissed off most MLB players look to be playing a game for millions of dollars. The most common emotions expressed on an MLB diamond are negative emotions. Her go to line is “How can I have fun when the people playing the game aren’t?” I wholly agree.

I’m 35 and I still play baseball. I celebrate (score appropriate of course) everything I deem a success. When I hit a dinger, I’m basically doing an endzone dance around the bases. When I make a crazy catch in the outfield, I yell out “That was badass”. When I steal second, I’m pointing at my dugout with a huge smile on my face, followed by a wicked set of fist pumps. Hell, even when I walk I’m clapping my hands and giving air side fives to the dugout. I am not going to allow anyone at that park to be a bigger fan of my play than I am. I’ve worked far to hard to still be competitive on the diamond to not celebrate when I have those successes. I’ve never had anyone ask me to tone it down and have received compliments from a few players on opposing teams about how they appreciate the energy.

And I do the same thing for my teammates when they do something fantastic on the field, though I do hold back a little. It’s their moment. I don’t want to show them up.

jrl133Member since 2025
9 years ago
Reply to  minny505

pitchers exacting vengeance, showboat bat-flips, and .190 BA hitters having balls and strikes arguments with umpires…umpires running players as they go back to the dugout…suggests that “it’s all about me” in todays game, “the name on the back of the jersey” has become “more important than the name on the front”

Minny had a lot to share about his baseball story and behavior…and every sentence is about “I”…and the only time Minny defers to his team or the other is when the score is out of hand or someone else has a “moment”

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  jrl133

It’s a game. You should have fun.

OddBall Herrera
9 years ago

Ok, so why is football as successful as it is? It’s not just the product, it’s because it’s turned itself into a 24x7x365 soap opera. I don’t even like football but I can be drawn into following whatever disciplinary nonsense is making headlines at any given moment

It may be discouraging to purists who want to see the game play out in a certain way (on either side of the issue), but if baseball wants to be popular it needs to have people tweeting about the most recent scandal, hot takes on ESPN, beanings, fights, etc. This is the stuff that goes viral and drives viewership and makes people tune in to find out what happens next.

What does that? Not soul searching about ‘the right way to play’. Players fighting over the right way to play does that. You need stodgy old Bumgarner, and you need Harper, and you need clashing styles that play out as drama on the field and the resulting legion of opinion mongers who want to argue about it, and fans rooting for this or that guy because he plays the game the way they like to see it played (and correspondingly against people who don’t). There’s no right or wrong way about it, baseball should encourage the old guard to be as old guardey as they want, and the Latin American players to do their thing, and Puig to do cartwheels down the basepaths until some white guy explodes, and that’ll become the show within the show, it’ll be more fun and more popular too.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago

Harper going first to third on a single, then stealing home (for his first career SB!) after Hamels drilled him in 2012 is one of my favorite baseball memories.

AA1989
9 years ago

“The errant pitch was perceived as intentional, the Tigers pitcher suggesting in its aftermath that the Yankees catcher ought to stop showing off.”

I laughed when I read the word errant. Were we watching the same game(s)? I don’t remember Sanchez showboating in those games.

“Since one of those pitches, a wild toss from Dellin Betances, nailed Tigers catcher James McCann in the head, it’s time we look at whether or not the old-school way is the right way, or as much a thing of the past as chewing tobacco in the dugout.”

Some impartiality would be nice. One was an “errant” pitch, the other “nailed” McCann in the head.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  AA1989

Especially considering that Fulmer all but admitted to plunking Sanchez intentionally, while Betances “nailed” McCann with an 0-2 count.

stansfield123
9 years ago

“The trouble between the Tigers and Yankees began when Gary Sanchez was hit by a wild Michael Fulmer offering.”

Well, no. The trouble started in the previous series, when Miguel Cabrera openly told his pitcher to hit a Yankee, without justification. And the Yankees decided not to retaliate (because they’re in a playoff race).

Had they retaliated right then and there, the issue would’ve probably been resolved with a lot less fireworks. Not retaliating resulted in two things:
1. it encouraged the Tigers’ bad behavior…next series, Fulmer ended up hitting Sanchez over too many homers, thinking “the Yankees are not going to do anything about it, anyway”.
2. it allowed resentment to build in the Yankee camp, which then exploded in a way that was a lot more ugly and dangerous than a single, well executed fastball into Cabrera’s ribs would have been.

windu
9 years ago

God yes. While it can be entertaining to watch a brawl, it is laughable that grown men (millionaires no less) act like children. Any other job you would be fired and have legal action taken against you.

coreyerb
9 years ago

Seems like it was probably a throwaway line and this is a tangent but is chewing tobacco in the dugout even a thing of the past either? I still see tons of players and some managers/coaches with a lip full, despite the restrictions on clubhouse attendants buying it for them. Seems pretty ubiquitous still.

I’m not sure how to get it out of the sport (leaving aside the “they’re grown men, they can chew if they want” argument) but the cities that have banned it and any MLB efforts haven’t worked.