Dylan Bundy Looks Ready to Breakout

LAKELAND, Fla. — Monday perhaps offered a glimpse of the Dylan Bundy we’ve been waiting for on a windy, sunny afternoon at Joker Marchant Stadium.

In the bottom of the first, the Orioles were so sure a bending Bundy curveball froze Nick Castellanos for a third strike that Bundy and the rest of the infield took a collective step to the visiting third-base dugout before home-plate umpire Jerry Layne signaled a strikeout.

Bundy also ended the second, another scoreless inning, with a curveball for a strikeout, this time a swinging strikeout of James McCann. Earlier in the inning, Alex Avila had waved over the top of a changeup for a strikeout. Bundy was generally able to locate a 92-94 mph fastball, throwing 28 of 39 pitches for strikes, a few painting low-and-outside corners. He did not walk a batter. He was able to throw all four of his pitches, including what is perhaps the most interesting new pitch experiment east Andrew Miller’s changeup this spring.

Perhaps most encouraging was the second out of the second inning when Mikie Mahtook buried a darting Bundy cutter into the infield turf for a routine groundout to their baseman Chris Johnson. The cutter is not new to Bundy, of course, but he is re-introducing the pitch this spring in what could be one of the more important adjustments being made in Florida.

As resident pitching guru Eno Sarris identified earlier this spring, the Bundy of 2016 was one of the pitchers in baseball most in need of a new pitch. And unlike any pitcher on that list in that story, unlike any other pitcher we know of experimenting with a new pitch, Bundy’s new offering, his cutter, was once arguably his best offering coming out of Owasso (Oklahoma) High School in 2011. The pitch was described as “a supreme piece of aerodynamic filth” by former-BP-writer-turned-Cubs-scout Jason Parks. The pitch was one of many reasons some felt he should have become the first right-handed prep pitcher to be selected first overall in draft. The pitch is one reason why Eno predicted he would become the ace he was always expected to be this season.

You Aren't a FanGraphs Member
It looks like you aren't yet a FanGraphs Member (or aren't logged in). We aren't mad, just disappointed.
We get it. You want to read this article. But before we let you get back to it, we'd like to point out a few of the good reasons why you should become a Member.
1. Ad Free viewing! We won't bug you with this ad, or any other.
2. Unlimited articles! Non-Members only get to read 10 free articles a month. Members never get cut off.
3. Dark mode and Classic mode!
4. Custom player page dashboards! Choose the player cards you want, in the order you want them.
5. One-click data exports! Export our projections and leaderboards for your personal projects.
6. Remove the photos on the home page! (Honestly, this doesn't sound so great to us, but some people wanted it, and we like to give our Members what they want.)
7. Even more Steamer projections! We have handedness, percentile, and context neutral projections available for Members only.
8. Get FanGraphs Walk-Off, a customized year end review! Find out exactly how you used FanGraphs this year, and how that compares to other Members. Don't be a victim of FOMO.
9. A weekly mailbag column, exclusively for Members.
10. Help support FanGraphs and our entire staff! Our Members provide us with critical resources to improve the site and deliver new features!
We hope you'll consider a Membership today, for yourself or as a gift! And we realize this has been an awfully long sales pitch, so we've also removed all the other ads in this article. We didn't want to overdo it.

Over the course of three scoreless innings Monday, Bundy offered some hints that such a breakout is looming.

What Bundy said he was most pleased with Monday was the improved execution of a pitch that’s described as a cutter-slider hybrid.

“It was a little bit tighter. It was over the plate more, not so sweepy. I was really happy with that…. They were more quality ones today. I was happy with it,” Bundy said after his second outing of the spring. “I don’t want to use the (cutter-slider) too much. I want to build it up through the spring. That’s been the plan. And I’ve stuck to it.”

I asked Bundy after his start if he decided to add the pitch because of his struggles in going through the order a third time last season. And he indicated the decision was in part rooted to the data:

Third Time’s a Charm?
OPS wRC+
1st PA vs. Bundy 0.637 67
2nd PA vs. Bundy 0.787 106
3rd PA vs. Bundy 0.960 145
1st PA vs. SP (MLB average) 0.725 96
2nd PA vs. SP (MLB average) 0.753 103
3rd PA vs. SP (MLB average) 0.792 113

“I’d say so,” Bundy said. “(The cutter) just gives me another a pitch I can show guys. I can break out at the beginning of the game or the end of the game. You never know. If you have four pitches to think about, instead of three, I think the percentages there make it a little harder to hit.”

But what’s interesting is that for Bundy to throw the pitch, to trust the pitch, he has to get over a psychological hurdle. He felt the pitch was causing pain in his forearm at the close of 2015 in the Arizona Fall League so he and the Orioles agreed to shelve the pitch.

Forearm pain is a considerable worry for Bundy as he fell victim to the Tommy John epidemic in 2013, after soaring to the top of prospect rankings.

The Orioles asked Bundy to refrain from throwing the pitch in 2012 as Orioles general manager Dan Duquette was quite adamant against using the cutter.

“First of all, the cut fastball, we don’t like it as a pitch, OK? And we don’t like it for young pitchers because it takes away from the development of their curveball, which is a better pitch long-term and also, the velocity of their fastball….

But in Bundy’s case, the 19-year-old right-hander has said that is his best pitch. Have the Orioles taken away Bundy’s top pitch? …

“We don’t like the cutter. We don’t like the cutter as an effective pitch. Name me all the great pitchers that used it as their primary pitch in the big leagues.”

Don’t bring up Mariano Rivera, because I did and Duquette isn’t hearing that one.

“That’s a fastball. That’s a fastball. That’s his only pitch, he’s a one-pitch wonder. It’s his fastball.” …

“Why don’t you take a look at the chart with the average against cutters in the big leagues, batting average against and then come back and tell me that that’s a great pitch,” Duquette said.

In 2016, according to linear weights, MLB hitters produced positive values against fastballs (707.8) and changeups (7.1), and negative values against curveballs (-26.4), cutters (-65.7) and sliders (-630.6), according to FanGraphs leaderboards.

Bundy said he and the Orioles agreed not to throw the pitch last year.

“We all kind of sat down. Me, Dom (Chiti) and Dave (Wallace) and Buck (Showalter) we talked about it at that mini-camp for about 20 to 30 minutes. Whether I should even bother with it at all. We are all agreeing that now is not the best time to throw it.

“That pitch, I was getting around it too much and it was tweaking my forearm. So we are all understanding that right now I need a full year healthy (more) than a cutter/slider.”

Well, the cutter is back this spring.

And it’s back in part because Bundy suspects it will help him be more effective deeper into games. In the small sample of his early career, he’s been dominant the first time through a lineup. What if he can become a little better a second and third time through?

What’s the toughest thing about learning to trust the pitch this spring? A pitch that has perhaps caused Bundy harm? A pitch the organization would rather pitchers not throw?

“Figuring out where it is going to move. How much it is going to move. And if you can throw it for a strike,” Bundy said. “Just trying to figure out the consistent movement of it right now I would say is the hardest part.”

I spoke with new Orioles pitching coach Roger McDowell, who does not believe there are riskier pitch types. He said he and Bundy have toyed with a number of grips this spring.

“Incorrectly thrown pitches, whether it’s a fastball or secondary pitches, any of them that aren’t thrown correctly can stress the arm,” McDowell said. “It’s a pitch he’s made a point of adding to his repertoire to make the other pitches (more effective)… As with any pitch thrown correctly and not overused, if the shape of it is consistent, if it is a pitch you can add and it’s an advantage, I think it’s something you explore.”

After starting last season in the bullpen, Bundy will begin his first major league season as part of the starting rotation. And it is with health, and a return of what may be his best pitch, that could allow him to lead a rotation and become the ace so many thought he would become. Perhaps adding the cutter back increases risk, but it could also lead to great reward.





A Cleveland native, FanGraphs writer Travis Sawchik is the author of the New York Times bestselling book, Big Data Baseball. He also contributes to The Athletic Cleveland, and has written for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, among other outlets. Follow him on Twitter @Travis_Sawchik.

18 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
mtsw
9 years ago

Writing the “[pitcher with serious history of injuries] is about to break out” article is what we in the internet community refer to as “jinxing it.”

Stay healthy, Dylan.

Jim Melichar
9 years ago

I’ve always questioned the Orioles approach to developing pitchers and this article only re-confirmed that for me. Didn’t they spend years trying to ruin Jake Arrieta as well? Not letting him throw the way he was comfortable? I’m glad they’re letting Bundy use the cutter and I’m curious why Duquette thinks it’s a bad pitch. Does he have some other data that wasn’t presented here?

RonnieDobbs
9 years ago
Reply to  Jim Melichar

Bundy’s career was close to over. He was completely derailed after his first full season of pro baseball. I think you have to consider what the Orioles have gotten out of him to be a success. Very strange to criticize the process which has led to Bundy’s health. If ditching the cutter helped him to resurrect his career, then it isn’t bad. He gets to try to be healthy this year and throw the full arsenal. We will see how it goes this year

JUICEMANE
9 years ago
Reply to  Jim Melichar

idk they did pretty good with Britton…did the Orioles prohibit Arretia from doing Pilates? He attributes that to his turn around.
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/cubs-jake-arrieta-cy-young-career-turnaround-033016

sadtromboneMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  Jim Melichar

This is the full story:
http://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2012/08/dan-duquette-on-the-os-pitching-philosophy-we-dont-like-the-cutter.html

If you don’t want to click, he thinks that throwing the cutter leads to less velocity on fastballs and that the curveball is a “better” pitch.

But it looks like a lot of the guys coming up through the O’s system throw sliders, so it’s not just that they like curveballs better. They just don’t like cutters.

Eno Sarris tackled that here:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/dan-duquette-doesnt-like-cutters/

Of course, then there is this:
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2012/12/11/3754120/revisiting-dan-duquette-cutter-baltimore-orioles-sabermetrics

RonnieDobbs
9 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Mysterious that nobody wants to talk about the cutter health issue. There are cutters, and then there are really hard sliders, which is what Bundy threw… which is what I thought the issue was until the past few weeks. It is much more fun to vilify some third-party than discuss reality I guess…

Curious Gorge
9 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

Coming from the guy who was dismissive to LandofMods below who was also trying to discuss reality. tiny violin…

btalley2121
9 years ago

Another example of the Orioles coaching staff messing with pitchers strengths and what has always worked for them.(Arrieta)

LandofMods
9 years ago

Harvey topped out at 94 the other day. He has great command and has 4 pitches. Bundy and Harvey sound like the same guy right now.

RonnieDobbs
9 years ago
Reply to  LandofMods

OK

LandofMods
9 years ago
Reply to  RonnieDobbs

Sorry, I must have eaten paint chips for breakfast and didn’t complete my thought.

There’s some concern that Harvey is only topping out at 94, but he still has command of three other pitches.

There’s talk of a Bundy breakout, but if he’s throwing 92-94 with command of three other pitches, he sounds pretty similar.

Obviously we’re going to find out soon enough, but just noticing the optimism for one and concern for the other.

Brians Sticky Sock
9 years ago
Reply to  LandofMods

I was wondering the same thing. Anybody have any constructive observations?

jrubyMember since 2026
9 years ago

My take-away:

Wow, Dan Duquette’s an ass.

Lunch AngleMember since 2016
9 years ago

Love the juxtaposition of Duquette’s quotes with actual stats.

Ryan McCrea
9 years ago

this could be an interesting case to explore how the introduction of another pitch can effect primary / secondary pitches. If DD is right that the cutter is a bad pitch ‘on the whole’, how will introducing it to help keep hitters off balance, affect his other primary pitches? Sacrifice the introduction of one historically bad pitch for the betterment of others, esp 3rd time through the order

JMerts
9 years ago

The hope for pro-Bundy-breakout fans would be that this experiment would lead to an Arrieta-esque usage of the cutter/slider, because in terms of strikeout and groundball rate, it was by far his best pitch last season. His peripherals would get quite the added boost if it worked in tandem with his four-seamer. For DD to lead the condemnation of it is laughably insane; I’d hate being an O’s fan sitting through the quotes provided in this article.

swpitcher42
9 years ago
Reply to  JMerts

That quote from DD is from 2012, hopefully Jake Arrieta’s success and/or other new information has caused him to do a little reevaluation of his stance

Jetsy Extrano
9 years ago
Reply to  swpitcher42

That would be a great follow-up.