FanGraphs Chat – 5/9/11

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May 9, 2011





 

Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs.

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ayjackson
12 years ago

I don’t know whether Morrow has the best “stuff” in the game, but you say he’s not even close in one post and then state a few responses later that K/9 is the best single stat to measure “stuff”. Well Morrow has led the league in K/9 for starters since the start of 2010.

I don’t think anyone’s overrating his stuff if they think it’s amongst the best in the league. How else do you get to 11.0 K/9?

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Lewis
12 years ago
Reply to  ayjackson

If there’s one player in the league Dave is CLEARLY biased against, it’s Brandon Morrow. Nobody’s claiming he’s a top 5 starter here. We’re just talking about pure stuff.

Going back to last year, no other starter is even really close to him in K/9. (11.03 to Timmy’s 9.98).

Dave’s concerns about long term health are legit but right now he’s top 5 for pure stuff without a doubt. To say otherwise is almost baseless.

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Dave Cameronmember
12 years ago
Reply to  Lewis

Felix, Verlander, Johnson, Kershaw, Price, Lester. That was easy.

Morrow’s stuff is good, but it’s not better than any of those guys. His strikeout rate is higher because he doesn’t throw strikes, so he finds himself in a lot of deep counts where the result tends to be a walk or a strikeout. That’s not indicative of better stuff – that’s evidence of worse command.

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Bron
12 years ago
Reply to  Lewis

You said in this very chat that K rate was the best stat for “stuff”. Now you choose this specific instance to not use that as your baseline?

If command is such a big part of this, then why aren’t guys like Halladay and Lee a part of the conversation?

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Teach
12 years ago
Reply to  Lewis

You guys are arguing about something completely unquantifiable. Just stop.

Dave, you’re coming off arrogant as ever.

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bronx_bombers
12 years ago
Reply to  Lewis

How does David Price have better stuff? His secondary offerings aren’t on the same level as Morrow’s.

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HotStubbsTimeMachine
12 years ago
Reply to  Lewis

Morrow vs. Scherzer tonight.

Over/Under on torn UCLs set @ 1.5

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