FanGraphs Power Rankings: The Start of the Offseason

The true offseason has yet to begin, as teams have begun their annual housekeeping on their rosters, but the big moves have yet to materialize. That means it’s the perfect time to see how they stack up against each other. Think of these power rankings as a glimpse at which teams are close to being ready for 2023 and which teams might have a lot of work to do before even thinking about next season.

A reminder for how these rankings are calculated: first, we take the three most important components of a team — their offense (wRC+), their pitching (a 50/50 blend of FIP- and RA9-, weighted by starter and reliever IP share) — and combine them to create an overall team quality metric. For these offseason power rankings, I’ve used each team’s projected stats based on their Depth Charts projections which are entirely powered by the 2024 Steamer projections at this point. The result is a power ranking, which is then presented in tiers below.

While these offseason power rankings will continue to emulate the format from the past few years, I am working on a new format to the rankings for the 2024 regular season that will hopefully address many of the concerns voiced about the current methodology. I hope to have more to share about what these new rankings will look like in the months ahead. Anyway, to the rankings!

Tier 1 – Ready to Compete
Team Projected Record wRC+ SP- RP- Team Quality
Braves 97-65 114 88 94 199
Rays 91-71 109 94 99 167
Astros 91-71 113 98 99 163

It’s a good sign when the team with the best regular-season record in 2023 is projected to have the best record again the following season. The Braves’ young core is locked up for years, and they look ready to dominate the National League for years to come. They’ve already addressed some needs in their bullpen by re-signing Pierce Johnson and Joe Jiménez, and they’ll likely continue adding to their pitching staff to cover for the loss of Kyle Wright to shoulder surgery. They’ve also got a need for more depth in the outfield. Still, those are small concerns; this roster as it stands would be an easy World Series favorite if the season started today.

The projections will always favor a deep and flexible team like the Rays because their ability to weather the attrition of a long season is easily accounted for in the data. Our current Depth Charts projections have Wander Franco taking the majority of the playing time at shortstop, but the step down to Junior Caminero’s isn’t that drastic. Their pitching staff looks set, with a full season from Tyler Glasnow and the return of Shane Baz hopefully in the cards. They’ll miss the trio of Shane McClanahan, Drew Rasmussen, and Jeffrey Springs, but bringing in Aaron Civale at the trade deadline this year and the emergence of Zack Littell should give them a formidable rotation.

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The version of the Astros we saw in 2023 was a diminished one compared to their dominant championship from the year prior, most of which can be attributed to injury woes that plagued them throughout the season. The majority of the core that drove so much of their success in ‘22 will be back next year, but they’ll need to add a bit of depth to their starting rotation. Justin Verlander will be 41 years old in 2024, and there’s no telling what they can expect from Lance McCullers Jr.

Tier 2 – A Couple Pieces Away
Team Projected Record wRC+ SP- RP- Team Quality
Blue Jays 87-75 106 97 98 147
Twins 86-76 104 97 95 143

Like so many of the teams atop these rankings, the Blue Jays have an enviable young core driving their rosy projections. Steamer believes we’ll see a big bounce back from Vladimir Guerrero Jr., which is critical to their future success. They have needs at third base and in the outfield, though Daulton Varsho should be able slide over and cover center field after the departure of Kevin Kiermaier. With expectations for Alek Manoah up in the air, Toronto will likely be looking to add depth to an already good starting rotation.

After nearly two decades of postseason frustration, the Twins finally enjoyed some October success this year, winning a playoff series for the first time since 2002. Their excellent pitching staff remains mostly intact, though they’ll need to find a replacement for Sonny Gray; the return of Chris Paddack from his injury late in the season should help in that regard. A lot of Minnesota’s success feels like it’s linked to the health of Carlos Correa, Byron Buxton, and Royce Lewis. If that talented trio can avoid extended stays on the Injured List, they’ll lead the way to another easy AL Central title.

Tier 3 – Contenders in Need
Team Projected Record wRC+ SP- RP- Team Quality
Yankees 85-77 103 97 99 128
Phillies 84-78 101 98 96 128
Mariners 84-78 101 97 98 122
Dodgers 84-78 108 102 101 115
Orioles 84-78 105 100 99 117
Red Sox 83-79 99 96 95 125
Rangers 83-79 105 100 101 114

Like the Twins, the position of the Yankees in these rankings greatly depends on the health of some of their biggest stars, in particular Aaron Judge, Carlos Rodón, and Nestor Cortes. They’ll also be missing top prospect Jasson Domínguez for much of the season after he underwent Tommy John surgery earlier this year, which creates a glaring need in the outfield. The age and payroll distribution of New York’s roster will make for some difficult decisions about the future, putting the team in an urgent position this offseason.

The Phillies came within one win of their second straight World Series appearance, and the majority of that roster that has been so successful over the past two seasons is returning in 2024, though they’ll be missing Aaron Nola, and finding his replacement will be their top priority this offseason. They’ll also be moving Bryce Harper to first base full-time, allowing them to get creative with potential additions to the outfield.

After a fairly quiet offseason following their first playoff appearance in two decades, the Mariners missed the postseason by one game this year. With a strong core of young players and one of the best starting rotations in baseball, they could run things back with a few marginal additions and probably be favored to claim a Wild Card spot. But considering the blowback received after Jerry Dipoto’s end-of-season comments, this offseason will likely be viewed as a disappointment unless they manage to sign Shohei Ohtani. It’s a tough position to be in, made all the worse because it was self-inflicted. If they’re interested in breaking out of their risk-averse stance, there’s plenty of room to add impact talent at a number of positions, but it would be a shock to see them actually do that.

Even with two MVP candidates anchoring their lineup, the Dodgers are in a precarious position this offseason. They have numerous holes to fill, with seven position players and nine pitchers leaving via free agency. Their starting rotation is the more pressing concern, even with the impending return of Walker Buehler from his Tommy John surgery, as they’re losing Clayton Kershaw — a free agent and sidelined until midseason after offseason shoulder surgery — along with Julio Urías and Lance Lynn. Meanwhile, Tony Gonsolin and Dustin May will likely miss all of next season due to injury. Los Angeles has proven it can fill in the margins of the roster with reclamation and bounce back projects, but the team will be pressed to find some top-end pitching talent this offseason alongside its likely pursuit of Ohtani.

The Orioles broke out of their long rebuilding cycle in emphatic fashion this year, winning the AL East with the best record in the league. There’s so much young talent already on their roster, and there’s more on the way. They have some depth concerns in their starting rotation, which should be a top priority for them this offseason. Even if they don’t add any significant talent to their pitching staff, they’ll still be favored to defend their division title next year thanks to that young nucleus.

It’s probably a little surprising to see the Red Sox ranked so highly after a largely disappointing 2023. New chief baseball officer Craig Breslow will be inheriting a roster that doesn’t have as many holes on it as you’d expect after a fifth-place finish in their division. The projections are taking into account full and healthy seasons from Chris Sale and Trevor Story, which certainly helps their position. There aren’t too many glaring issues on their roster; if they just solidify their depth all around, they could be right in the thick of things in the AL playoff picture next summer.

The core of the lineup that led the Rangers to their first World Series championship in franchise history will be intact next year. The biggest hurdle in their quest to defend their title will be a pitching staff filled with holes. Jordan Montgomery is out as a free agent, and Jacob deGrom will miss most if not all of next season after his second Tommy John surgery. Add in the diminishing effectiveness of Max Scherzer as he reaches 40 and a mediocre bullpen, and Texas will be busy trying to patch all that up this offseason.

Tier 4 – High-Variance Could Be’s
Team Projected Record wRC+ SP- RP- Team Quality
Mets 83-79 106 102 104 107
Marlins 82-80 93 90 95 108
Padres 83-79 110 108 110 99
Cardinals 83-79 108 105 102 104
Brewers 81-81 95 96 94 104
Diamondbacks 81-81 97 99 97 105

With an owner willing to invest a ridiculous amount of resources into the ballclub, the Mets will look to bounce back in 2024. Hopefully, those resources will be spent a little wiser after significant amounts of money went to the Rangers and Astros in the trades of Verlander and Scherzer. With those two out of the picture, New York will need to add a lot of talent back into the pitching staff this offseason. The lineup is in a much stronger position right now, but there’s still room to improve on the margins there, too.

The Marlins snuck into the playoffs in 2023, but they’ll have to navigate a change atop their organization as GM Kim Ng won’t return next season. Injecting a little more oomph into their lineup will once again be a top priority, especially after the departure of Jorge Soler. They’ll also miss Sandy Alcantara next year after his Tommy John surgery, though top prospect Max Meyer should be healthy and ready to contribute to this young and dynamic pitching staff.

The Padres are in a tough position this offseason. Pushing in all of their chips last season didn’t work out, and now they’re left picking up all the pieces. They have huge holes on their pitching staff; it was genuinely surprising to see them decline a team option on Michael Wacha knowing how many quality innings they’ll need to find this offseason. Reports say they’ll also be working with a smaller budget in 2024 after pushing up against the luxury tax line the past few seasons. There’s plenty of talent left on their roster, but the depth is razor thin, and the bulk of their top prospects are still too far off to contribute next year.

Like so many of the teams in this tier, the Cardinals still have plenty of talent on their roster, though nearly all of it is contained in their lineup. Like San Diego, St. Louis has glaring holes in the pitching staff. The front office has resisted investing significant resources into acquiring high-end pitching talent in the past, but the Cardinals might need to bite the bullet this offseason. The alternative is a starting rotation projected to be one of the worst in the NL.

With the saga of Craig Counsell’s future now decided, Milwaukee can turn to figuring out how to improve for next year. With the limited resources available, the Brewers already traded Mark Canha to the Tigers to avoid picking up his $11.5 million option for next year. That doesn’t bode well for their ability to add talent to their roster, and with Brandon Woodruff set to miss all of next year after his shoulder surgery, they’ve got a significant hole in their starting rotation.

It really felt like everything that had to go right did for the Diamondbacks on their surprise run to the World Series this year. The projections clearly don’t like their chances of making it that deep into the postseason next year, though all the promise of Corbin Carroll makes things much easier to build around. They’ll need to find replacements for Tommy Pham and Lourdes Gurriel Jr. in their lineup and need to add talent to their starting rotation to help out Zac Gallen and Merrill Kelly.

Tier 5 – Lots of Work to Do
Team Projected Record wRC+ SP- RP- Team Quality
Giants 79-83 95 94 100 99
Guardians 81-81 102 104 101 84
Cubs 79-83 97 100 98 91
Tigers 79-83 96 99 99 87
Reds 77-85 96 98 104 75
Angels 78-84 100 102 106 67
Pirates 77-85 95 101 99 67
Royals 77-85 97 103 102 62

The Giants missed out on all the big free agents they tried to pursue last offseason, leaving their roster in a bit of an awkward position. That’s only been exacerbated after a decent but not good enough season in 2023. They’ve emerged as early contenders for Ohtani with all those unused funds ready to be offered to the unicorn superstar. He would certainly help their position, but they’ve got roster problems that one man alone can’t solve.

The Guardians took a significant step back last year after their playoff appearance in 2022. They’ve got a pitching staff filled with exciting young talent, though they’ll need Shane Bieber and Triston McKenzie to return healthy next year. Their biggest issue is their lineup, where there just isn’t enough support surrounding José Ramírez. They do have a couple of young prospects in Brayan Rocchio and Kyle Manzardo who could help, but that won’t be enough. They desperately need some middle of the order bats to help drive in runs next year.

The Cubs were just a game away from clinching a playoff spot this year, though there are a few key contributors who have departed in free agency. They’ll need to find replacements for Cody Bellinger, Marcus Stroman, and Jeimer Candelario, but the outline of a good roster is in place. Thankfully, the NL Central looks like it’s wide open for the taking; with the surprise hire of Counsell, perhaps that’s a sign they’re taking this opportunity seriously and will devote the resources necessary to build another winner in Chicago.

The breakouts of Spencer Torkelson, Riley Greene, Kerry Carpenter, and Tarik Skubal give Detroit a solid foundation to build on. There are still plenty of needs on the roster, and it’s important to remember the false start from a couple of years ago, but it seems like the Tigers are finally on the verge of breaking out of their rebuilding cycle.

The Reds came very close to claiming a NL Wild Card spot this year — a surprise after they tore everything down just a couple of years ago. Their lineup and pitching staff are both stacked with young talent, which gives them a lot of promise, but it also means their roster has a lot of high variance. If enough of that young talent falters or doesn’t develop, Cincinnati could be in for a frustrating season next year.

The Angels’ last hurrah with Ohtani came up well short. They’ll make every effort to retain the two-way superstar this offseason, but the reality is that they’ll head into next season without him. And with injury concerns mounting for Mike Trout, they’ve got their hands full trying to decipher what direction to head this offseason. There are no easy answers in Anaheim now that Ohtani is out of the picture.

Even though the NL Central looks like it’s wide open for the taking, the Pirates look like they’re just a step behind the rest of the teams in their division. Paul Skenes, the top pick in the 2023 draft, should move quickly through the organization; he’s got a shot at making his major league debut next year. With a few more key additions, Pittsburgh could take a step forward in the rebuilding cycle, but it probably won’t be enough to compete for a playoff spot.

Getting Vinnie Pasquantino back healthy and a full season of Cole Ragans should benefit the Royals greatly, giving them more top-end talent to pair alongside Bobby Witt Jr. Unfortunately, there really isn’t much help coming through their minor league system. That means they’ll need to look outside their organization for improvements, but they haven’t shown an appetite for investing resources into free agents. That trio of Pasquantino, Ragans and Witt looks solid, but Kansas City is in danger of wasting the prime years of those three if it can’t bring in support for them.

Tier 6 – Rebuilding
Team Projected Record wRC+ SP- RP- Team Quality
Athletics 74-88 93 107 107 21
Rockies 63-99 83 105 98 33
Nationals 69-93 91 110 105 11
White Sox 68-94 92 115 109 8

Before any attention is paid to the progress the A’s have made to their roster and farm system, everyone will be fixated on this week’s impending relocation vote. The process has been long, fraught, and arduous, but there might finally be some closure, even if it’s the less-than-desirable outcome of moving to Las Vegas. That relocation and its timeline will likely have some effect on the amount of money devoted to the major league team while it plays out its days in Oakland. The front office will want the roster to be peaking when the team moves and not a moment sooner.

For many of the teams in the tier above, there’s some hope of a competitive season next year, however fleeting it may be. Not so for the Rockies, who are as aimless and uninspired as ever. Picking up Nolan Jones last year was a surprise stroke of genius, but they desperately need Kris Bryant and Brendan Rodgers to return healthy next year. The problem, as always, is the pitching staff, particularly after losing Germán Márquez to elbow surgery.

The Nationals are one step closer to their top prospects making their debuts. It probably won’t be next year, which makes this upcoming offseason a little tricky to navigate. They’re not ready to add significant talent to their roster, which means they’ll be in an awkward holding pattern for another season. That’s not exciting, but it’s a necessary step along the way.

It was a steep fall for the White Sox last year. They’ve still got a decent amount of talent in their lineup that’s both young and under team control for a while, but they’re also projected to have the worst pitching staff in baseball next year. Dylan Cease is the only pitcher projected to be above average, and even he has some question marks. There is a universe where Chicago invests a ton of resources into the rotation this offseason and tries to run things back with its young position players. That probably won’t happen; instead, the White Sox will be stuck in the weird middle ground between thinking about rebuilding and actually rebuilding.

Complete Power Rankings
Rank Team Projected Record wRC+ SP- RP- Team Quality Δ
1 Braves 97-65 114 88 94 199 1
2 Rays 91-71 109 94 99 167 -1
3 Astros 91-71 113 98 99 163 8
4 Blue Jays 87-75 106 97 98 147 1
5 Twins 86-76 104 97 95 143 4
6 Yankees 85-77 103 97 99 128 9
7 Phillies 84-78 101 98 96 128 3
8 Mariners 84-78 101 97 98 122 -2
9 Dodgers 84-78 108 102 101 115 -6
10 Orioles 84-78 105 100 99 117 -2
11 Red Sox 83-79 99 96 95 125 9
12 Rangers 83-79 105 100 101 114 -8
13 Mets 83-79 106 102 104 107 6
14 Marlins 82-80 93 90 95 108 3
15 Padres 83-79 110 108 110 99 -8
16 Cardinals 83-79 108 105 102 104 7
17 Brewers 81-81 95 96 94 104 -5
18 Diamondbacks 81-81 97 99 97 105 -4
19 Giants 79-83 95 94 100 99 -3
20 Guardians 81-81 102 104 101 84 -2
21 Cubs 79-83 97 100 98 91 -8
22 Tigers 79-83 96 99 99 87 0
23 Reds 77-85 96 98 104 75 -2
24 Angels 78-84 100 102 106 67 0
25 Pirates 77-85 95 101 99 67 0
26 Royals 77-85 97 103 102 62 1
27 Athletics 74-88 93 107 107 21 3
28 Rockies 63-99 83 105 98 33 0
29 Nationals 69-93 91 110 105 11 -3
30 White Sox 68-94 92 115 109 8 -1





Jake Mailhot is a contributor to FanGraphs. A long-suffering Mariners fan, he also writes about them for Lookout Landing. Follow him on BlueSky @jakemailhot.

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OkraMember since 2016
2 years ago

Jake, could you please share in the intro the weightings you are using for wRC+, SP-, RP- to arrive at the total team quality number?

raregokusMember since 2022
2 years ago
Reply to  Okra

I think we’re past the point of simple weighting, it’s more like the raw numbers get an arbitrarily determined Vibe Coefficient applied to them to produce the team quality value.

Mac QuinnMember since 2022
2 years ago

Oh god, bump the yankees down a spot or twenty. Putting “the position of the Yankees in these rankings greatly depends on the health of some of their biggest stars” and then still ranking them anywhere but the bottom 10 is Charlie Brown trying to kick the football nonsense. You write that sentence and you should pencil in 85+ losses.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  Mac Quinn

Why would they only be subject to bad luck with the health of their players? If they get lucky with good health from some of their stars, there’s no way they lose 85 games even if they only make the bare minimum of offseason additions.

Mac QuinnMember since 2022
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

I suppose that’s true, they could have 15 consecutive coin flips go their way and scratch out 89 wins and the third wild card. What a ceiling.

David Klein
2 years ago

I’d bet the under on the A’s win projection by I guess is done by the steamer projection system. Anyway, the comments should be interesting as always in these power rankings column.

tdouglas
2 years ago

I’m honestly shocked the Cardinals are projected at 83 wins after the season they just had. There must be significant positive regression plus significant improvement projected for guys like Walker and Winn. I’m not buying it — their two star players just went from a combined 14 WAR in 2022 to a combined 6 WAR in 2023 and are about to be a year older. Plus, they’ve got the worst starting situation I’ve seen in a would-be contender in a long time. I’m not seeing many areas of poor fortune in the ’23 club — they just weren’t good.

The STL front office has been vocal about adding at least two starters, which should add about 5 WAR or so. If you believe the projections, that makes STL a decent contender. I think they are closer to a mid-70’s win team right now, so two pitchers wouldn’t be enough. I look forward to seeing the ZiPS 2024 Cardinals article to see where my opinion and ZiPS differs.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  tdouglas

The Cardinals’ 2023 offense was excellent and even has talent to spare for the 2024 roster, while every other team except maybe the Braves is currently at least one offensive piece short via players becoming free agents, and the defense also projects to be pretty good. There is indeed significant improvement expected for Walker and Winn, as well. (Plus, the only reason Arenado’s WAR dropped so much in 2023 was due to his weird defensive slump in the first half.)

Although it doesn’t necessarily work that way in practice, that complete offense theoretically balances out the currently terrible pitching staff to project the current Cardinals’ roster as about an average team.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  tdouglas

I guess the bright side is this makes the Cards one of the easiest teams to improve. It’s a great winter to buy a bunch of pretty good starters, and they have a few rotation spots where they’re replacing very low WAR projections.

SteveMcAnderson
2 years ago
Reply to  tdouglas

Also, 83 wins is still pretty bad. Just looks good in relation to that division. Though it is surprising the 92 win Brewers are currently at 81 wins when all they are losing are trade deadline acquisitions and 11 starts of Brandon Woodruff.

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago

Canha is gone too (he was a trade deadline acquisition but one of their better hitters from that point forward, and they don’t exactly have an imposing lineup to begin with)

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
2 years ago

BaseRuns thought they were 7 games “lucky”, so I assume that’s most of it.

Jasper FranciscoMember since 2017
2 years ago

Massive jumps for the Royals and A’s, but the wildest has to be the Angels losing Ohtani and improving.

PC1970Member since 2024
2 years ago

He was holding them back all this time, who knew?

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago

You could buy houses betting Angels unders this last decade or so…

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

But you’d have lost your house doing that in the ’00s.

MikeSMember since 2020
2 years ago

“The White Sox will be stuck in the weird middle ground between thinking about rebuilding and actually rebuilding.”

Their last GM described this as “mired in mediocrity.” I think mediocrity would be overachieving this year, but I also think that the owner prefers “mediocrity and hope to get lucky” to an all out rebuild.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
2 years ago

In 2021 both of this years World Series participants lost over 100 games and the White Sox won the AL Central by 13 games all the while being touted by most as a rising team that would be contending for years to come. This years Mets ended the season failing to reach their 10% projection, while the Orioles exceeded their 90% line. Even the Red Sox, who have finished last in the AL East in 3 of the last 4 years, were within 2 games of reaching the World Series in the fourth, 2021. As one who questions attempts to predict baseball it is comforting to lean back in the recliner and chuckle a little bit while waiting for the 2024 season to begin.

benderMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

That’s because the teams that make the World Series aren’t necessarily the best teams in the regular season.

This exercise is trying to predict who will win the most games, not who’ll make the World Series (which as mentioned above is very random).

Carson Kahla
2 years ago

Predicting the Astros and Jays will have better offenses than the Rangers? So we’re back to doubting the Rangers, awesome.

ColonelMustard
2 years ago
Reply to  Carson Kahla

The Astros projection is reasonable. Had a top offense when healthy and Yanier Diaz will be replacing Maldonado. That literally might be the biggest positional offensive upgrade in all of MLB this off-season.

Not losing any big names to free agency either.

Also I’d bet whoever replaces Dusty will be better at constructing batting orders. Less ABs to speedsters like Dubon, who batted 1st or 2nd way too often this year.

The Blue Jays are harder to defend so I’ll agree with your skepticism there.

I don’t doubt the Rangers offense at all. Their pitching however… Time will tell

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  ColonelMustard

Maybe there is hope that the Jays don’t go 17-for-2,126 with RISP next year!

CousinNicky
2 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

Most of the rangers also had career best years(Seager is incredible but do we think he drops another 170 wRC+), same goes for Adolis, Garver, even Semein hit way above his career line. Not saying they cant again, but matching or improving career best years is tough and not likely for players in their early to mid 30’s.

Meanwhile the players on the Blue Jays and Astros had down years and or missed time. A full season of Yordan hitting helps the Astros, Abreu isnt trash for the first half of the season and comes closer to his career line.

The blue jays are weird as this is the third season everyone is waiting on for some of their players to break out in a big way notably, Vlad Jr who cant get the ball off the ground.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  CousinNicky

On Seager – in short, yes. He only outperformed his xWOBA by 6 points (.419 versus .413). His xWOBAs the past few years are .413, .372, .392, .434.

Dude is one of the best hitters in the league. The question is how many PAs will he get.

Carson Kahla
2 years ago
Reply to  CousinNicky

Semien has been a completely different hitter the second half of his career so bringing up his career line is just not helpful.
Garver has two seasons better than this one and only played 87 games.
Adolis also underperformed his xwOBA by .13 and when you look at his swing decisions there is a real difference between the previous two years and ‘23.
Heims career year was 7 wrc+ higher than last year and his xwOBA was right in line with his wOBA
Also you talk about these career bests coming from guys in their early to mid thirties??? Is 33 mid thirties? Opening day next year Seager will be 29, adolis will be 31 and semien/Garver will be the oldest at 33. Meanwhile the other guys who had career years will be 29(Heim), 26(Jung) 24(Taveras, Duran)

murraygd13Member since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  Carson Kahla

Garver is a free agent, isn’t he? I mean the Rangers could probably easily resign him…but he’s not techincally on the team at this point.

lftyg33
2 years ago

Go O’s

mariodegenzgz
2 years ago

The problem (for the Rockies), as always, is the pitching staff,

Is it? They did have the worst wRC+ in baseball by a significant amount, and while you can certainly expect progression from Tovar, Doyle and a few others, the team is also actively planning to punt ~1600 PAs next season for the ghost of Kris Bryant, Elías Díaz and Charlie Blackmon. McMahon K’d at record pace last season, Rodgers is gifted but unreliable, Jones is due for some regression (even if he’s still gonna be a good regular), Montero hasn’t hit yet and is unlikely to receive a real extended look with the presence of certain vets, and Doyle has drastic hit tool limitations.

Sean Bouchard could be a boost, but they genuinely have nowhere to play him unless they plan on dumping Montero, Hunter Goodman and others, because they have to accomodate for Blackmon’s presence on the roster and the inevitable 600 PAs of leadoff ABs he’s gonna take. Sterlin Thompson is close-ish to the show, but the rest of their big AA prospects still need some refinement.

The Rockies can’t score runs. Their pitching isn’t good, especially the rotation at the moment now that Freeland’s lost like two ticks in two years and everyone’s hurt, but the bullpen is nice. This team just can’t hit for power OR take a walk.

PC1970Member since 2024
2 years ago

With the caveat that these are almost “too early” due to offseason FA signings & trades:

I’m trying to figure out how the A’s & Royals improve by 25-30 games & am drawing a blank. Dead cat bounce? Not like either one has a ton of top prospects coming in to change things.

I guess we’re taking all the FA’s out of the pool, so the A’s/Royals look better today..but, once those FA’s sign with other teams, their records will revert back to win totals in the 60’s?

Last edited 2 years ago by PC1970
cowdiscipleMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  PC1970

I am working on a new format to the rankings for the 2024 regular season that will hopefully address many of the concerns voiced about the current methodology. I hope to have more to share about what these new rankings will look like in the months ahead. 

Thank you for this.

edit: this wasn’t intended to be a threaded reply.

Last edited 2 years ago by cowdisciple
tyke
2 years ago
Reply to  PC1970

likely due to the conservative nature of projection systems

markakis21
2 years ago
Reply to  PC1970

Fangraphs projection systems always really struggle with the top 3 and bottom 3 teams. The Dodgers beat their projections every single year.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  PC1970

Exactly. The A’s and Royal have lost a lot less talent to free agency than most other teams, so their current projected records are significantly better by comparison.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  PC1970

The Royals were the unluckiest team in baseball per BaseRuns, so they’re really starting from like 66 wins. I can’t explain the As.

PC1970Member since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Esp considering the A’s team quality is a 21, which is below the 28th place Rockies at 33..yet, the A’s are projected for 11 more wins?

The AL West is as tough as the NL West (Plus that affect should be muted with the more balanced schedule).

Quite frankly, I can’t see how the A’s team quality is above The Nationals.

newsenseMember since 2020
2 years ago

I have a request for when you overall the rankings system. It’s a little confusing to see offense described with a + (wRC+) statistic and pitching describe with – (SP- and RP-). The quality measures should all move in the same direction.

Mac QuinnMember since 2022
2 years ago
Reply to  newsense

Yeah, it makes sense to me for ERA- (etc.) to be the standard because it mirrors that a lower ERA is better, but for a summary measure like this maybe it’d be better how you say.

lacslyer
2 years ago
Reply to  newsense

The problem with that is ERA+ and ERA- are different stats, with ERA- typically being the more preferred stat to judge pitchers by. Basically to do what you want they’d have to “create” positive stats that mirror ERA- for instance and all that would do is create more confusion.

Last edited 2 years ago by lacslyer
tung_twista
2 years ago
Reply to  lacslyer

I much prefer ERA- to ERA+ for assessing individual pitchers because the true difference between ERA- 63 and ERA- 56 pitcher is not as dramatic as ERA+ 159 and ERA+ 179 make it sound like.
But for teams, I don’t care too much either way since the range of ERA+/- is much narrower and centered around 100.

markakis21
2 years ago

Could you please explain why you think the drop off from Wander Franco to Caminero is not steep? Sure, maybe on the offensive side, it’s “only” a 25 point gap in wOBA. But Franco is a plus baserunner and plus plus fielder. Caminero is projected to be a minus in both categories.

markakis21
2 years ago

Even if [the orioles] don’t add any significant talent to their pitching staff, they’ll still be favored to defend their division title next year thanks to that young nucleus.”

Then why are they behind not only the Rays, but also the blue jays??????

Consistency. No one expects power rankings to be perfect, we just want internal consistency. Feels like right now things are just being spit out of a system.

David CooleyMember since 2022
2 years ago

Rockies biggest problem is actually their hitting (as Mario stated) – even though they do have a very shaky starting rotation to complement their bat disease.

A team that can’t hit all the while playing half a season at Coors Field is a real problem.

We have a lot of low leverage- situation ‘mashers’ who seem to always strike out with two outs- RISP that make the statistics look better than they actually are.

Down by 6 runs our hitters can be dangerous. Up by 6 runs-our pitchers are dangerous (but that’s not usually an issue).

dangledangleMember since 2024
2 years ago

Going to nit pick. Nestor Cortes isn’t a star. And projecting full health for Chris Sale is a fools errand! One way I’ve been thinking about teams is what are they missing (a) is what they are missing available this off-season (b) and are they willing to commit the resources/money (c)?

Take for instance the O’s what they are missing is a good rotation and some bullpen pieces. Even with gaps last year they crushed it. That said this off season special is middle to back of the rotation starters. Considering that most of that crowd should be relatively affordable the Os could fill their greatest need. The question is will they be willing to?

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
2 years ago

The Twins look good. Too bad they’ve basically said already that they don’t plan any meaningful FA additions.

murraygd13Member since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  cowdisciple

Yes this is unfortunate. They may add a couple guys via free agency. They did clear Gray’s and Maeda’s salaries off the book. As well as Micheal Taylor. And Joey Gallo. That’s probably close to what they plan on shedding in payroll this offseason.

If they find any takers for Kepler, Polanco and/or Vaszquez trading any one of them frees up about $10 million. Vazquez is probably too tough to deal. But Kepler and Polanco should bring back something. That would free up maybe $15-20 million to pickup a couple free agents. They could also decline to offer Kyle Farmer arbitration.

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  murraygd13

Trading Kepler or Polanco would also make the team worse, though. Maybe they could trade them, spend the savings on some area of greater need, and come out marginally ahead. I’m pretty comfortable putting a value near zero on that for the ’24 team, though.

Last edited 2 years ago by cowdisciple
Curacao LL
2 years ago

How many years are we going to keep expecting the “big bounceback” from Vladimir Guerrero Jr?

Take out the Buffalo MLB-AB and he is who he is: 800 OPS who is defensively decent at 1B.
Jays will tender him this year around $20MM but are they going to tender him next year closer to $30MM?

cowdiscipleMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  Curacao LL

are they going to tender him next year closer to $30MM?

For one year? Absolutely.

CousinNicky
2 years ago
Reply to  Curacao LL

As a braves fan i will happily trade for Vlad Jr(replace Ozuna at DH), he is only 24 and he still can be an elite hitter.

Tel
2 years ago

I don’t have the option to reply to markakis, but I agree about the Orioles – they’re the favorite in the Division but predicted to have the 4th best record, 7 games behind the Rays? And have the worst team quality, 8 points behind even the Red Sox.

William Duck
2 years ago

Even if they don’t add any significant talent to their pitching staff, they’ll still be favored to defend their division title next year thanks to that young nucleus

/looks at table of complete list of Power Rankings and sees a projection of 84 wins, 4th in the division and somehow behind the Yankees.

Um, OK. That makes sense.

boomstickMember since 2024
2 years ago

Rangers worked through every one of their All-Stars missing time last season.
Rangers add Evan Carter in September.
Win the World Series and dominate October baseball.

Rangers haven’t resigned Montgomery or Garver.
Therefore, -8 delta in the power ranking delta you!

Ya. Makes total sense. Clearly, they had the largest regression in all of MLB.