FG on Fox: The Rarest Pitch in Baseball

You might think the rarest pitch in the game is the knuckleball — only two pitchers regularly throw it right now. But there is a pitch that only Brad Ziegler throws often.

Ziegler throws a changeup — out of a submarine arm slot. Nobody else throws the same pitch with the same mechanics.

Only six sidearmers threw at least 25 changeups last year, and if you up that number to 100 thrown, there’s only Ziegler and (lefty) Aaron Loup on the list. If you limit the list to just submariners, Ziegler’s the only one that throws a changeup regularly.

Turns out, the physics of throwing a ball from that angle could be the reason so few sidearmers boast a solid changepiece.

Take Ziegler’s slider as an example. Back when he threw overhand, before 2007, he was putting traditional slider spin on the ball from his old arm slot. Thanks to Matt Lentzner at The Hardball Times, we know what that slider spin looks like. From his piece, here are the spins on the ball on pitches leaving from your traditional three-quarter arm slots:

Read the rest on Just a Bit Outside.

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Vslyke
11 years ago

Link is broken.

Mike
11 years ago

This feels like kind of a cheat. Submariners are almost as rare as knuckleballers. By these parameters, a fastball from Ziegler probably qualifies as the 3rd or 4th rarest pitch in baseball.

dogbone
11 years ago

I love submariners. Too bad you dont see many in mlb these days, though many seem to still thrive in japan and Korea.

DNA+
11 years ago

It doesn’t seem like it should be possible to throw a change up submarine style.

Brad JohnsonMember
11 years ago
Reply to  DNA+

I throw one. It’s easy, albeit the damn thing is hard to locate horizontally. It often goes straight at a RHB. Granted, I converted to submarinering earlier this summer and have maybe 20-25 innings under my belt. So maybe I shouldn’t expect to be able to locate a new pitch when I’ve used it 5 times in a game.

That being said, it’s not any different than an overhand change. I even use the same grip.

Greg
11 years ago

More rare than the screwball?

Bounty
11 years ago

Eephus?

joser
11 years ago
Reply to  Bounty

My first thought also. Every five days, Dickey is throwing a bunch of knuckleballs. How many months of pitching would we have to watch to see as many Eephus as we see knucklers in one Dickey start?