Finding a Place for Dayan Viciedo
Dayan Viciedo was supposed to be good. In retrospect, we probably should have known better. He now finds himself a free agent, and the question is whether or not there is a team for him.
In his initial signing story back in 2008, there is a lot of excitement. It is intimated that the South Siders traded Nick Swisher and Javier Vazquez in order to make room for Viciedo. That seems like a stretch, but we can say that the team did some planning in order to get them there. Just before the chess moves are mentioned, the article also casually mentions — in the seventh paragraph — that the White Sox would like him “drop some weight.” He was already at 246 lbs., and they wanted him to get down to 230.
Despite the risks (like that he swings at everything), which Baseball America noted in their 2009 capsule on him, his debut was hotly anticipated. As Marc Hulet detailed in that September, 2009 piece I just linked to, Viciedo had hype. As a 20-year-old Cuban refugee playing his first ball stateside in Double-A, you can see why. Alas, he didn’t do much in that 2009 season. In 2010 though, he stepped up his slugging, from .391 in Double-A in 2009 to .493 in 2010 in Triple-A. Not a bad jump, and ever since his full-season debut in 2012, he’s been able to bop. Not at an elite level, but at an above-league average level:
| Dayan Viciedo Power Statistics |
|---|
| Year | ISO | Lg Avg | SLG | Lg Avg |
| 2012 | 0.188 | 0.151 | 0.444 | 0.405 |
| 2013 | 0.161 | 0.143 | 0.426 | 0.396 |
| 2014 | 0.174 | 0.135 | 0.405 | 0.386 |
| ’12-’14 | 0.175 | 0.143 | 0.425 | 0.396 |
Again, you don’t need the Hulk-buster armor to stop this kind of raw power, but it’s still pretty good. Among the 263 hitters who tallied at least 300 plate appearances last season, Viciedo ranked 52nd among those who hit right-handed (righties plus switch hitters).
That’s what he does well. He does plenty of things not so well though, otherwise he wouldn’t be a free agent right now. He can’t field, for starters. Initially thought to be a third baseman, or someone who could play a little third base — a situation that seems eerily reminiscent this offseason with respect to Yasmany Tomas — Viciedo only played 23 games there in the majors, and that was back in 2010. He has since played first base, left field and right field, and has fared poorly at all of them. Only six players had a worse Fans Scouting Report mark than did Viciedo last year. Viciedo also isn’t a very good runner, and his plate discipline still leaves plenty to be desired.
Looking a little deeper, we see that Viciedo historically hits lefties much better, but that last year he didn’t have much of a platoon split. Perhaps that trend continues, perhaps it doesn’t. One thing that has been quite prevalent the past two years, and was scratch in 2012, is Viciedo’s Clutch score. Viciedo fares poorly enough in most situations that his WPA and RE24 are nothing special, but his Clutch score tells a different story. Since 2012, his 2.25 Clutch ranks 16th in baseball. Likewise, we see on his splits page that he hits best in high-leverage situations. The sample size isn’t large enough to be anything near definitive, but if you’re looking for a ray of hope, there you have it.
So who could use a righty bat to either be a designated hitter or a bench bat, or both? Perusing the DH depth chart, right away we see — once we scroll to the bottom, that is — an obvious candidate: the Giants. They have a long supply of noodle bats on the bench, aside from Andrew Susac. But if the plan is to use Susac as the backup catcher, and the team doesn’t plan to carry three catchers, they probably won’t want to use Susac as a bench bat all that frequently. Aside from him, there’s not much in the way of power, right-handed or otherwise:
#30 Giants
| Name | PA | AVG | OBP | SLG | wOBA | Bat | BsR | Fld | WAR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Joaquin Arias | 225 | .252 | .285 | .335 | .274 | -5.7 | 0.4 | 0.0 | 0.1 |
| Gregor Blanco | 15 | .248 | .327 | .346 | .302 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| Juan Perez | 15 | .233 | .274 | .339 | .273 | -0.4 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| Matt Duffy | 15 | .247 | .301 | .329 | .282 | -0.3 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| Nori Aoki | 15 | .277 | .341 | .365 | .317 | 0.1 | -0.1 | 0.0 | 0.1 |
| Andrew Susac | 15 | .224 | .304 | .355 | .297 | -0.1 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| Total | 300 | .250 | .291 | .338 | .279 | -6.4 | 0.4 | 0.0 | 0.3 |
And even if the plan is to use Susac heavily, he’s a rookie who doesn’t have a great projection, so having Viciedo around would be helpful.
The Reds are also a team without a real bench bat. They actually clock in at #12 on the DH depth chart, but that’s largely because their DH/bench is simply their good players who would be getting a breather to let some of their crappier players see some action. Upgrading on guys like Skip Schumaker or Thomas Neal would be a good idea. The Braves and Phillies also could use an infusion of power as well.
There are also the teams that might have injury needs. If Victor Martinez’s injury is worse than the Tigers hope, Viciedo could be his temporary replacement. If Kyle Blanks can’t stay healthy again, Viciedo could step in there. Same thing with Alex Rodriguez in New York. And those are just the players we know are hurt or could expect to be hurt.
Dayan Viciedo was once thought to be a very productive player. Things haven’t turned out that way. The last two years he was below replacement level. But this year he’ll still only be 26, and he does still have decent power and has shown a flair for the dramatic. That is a useful player, and one who is worth giving a shot in a part-time role.
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I wonder how much of his HR he’d lost @AT&T? His power to RF and especially to RC would be wasted. Giants need to target RH dead pull hitters.
If he hits the gap in right center, you could see quite a few triples turned into doubles.
Where can the DH depth chart be found?
nevermind. i found it.
so he’s basically Delmon Young? RH with some pop that can’t field or get on base.
Reminds me more of James Shields.
I like him in baltimore
Orioles hater!
I don’t see a fit for a 95 wRC+ RH bat that’s bad a defense and baserunning. He has no use other than pinch-hitting for really bat hitters, and then you have to find him a defensive sub anyway. That’s not a MLB bench player, that’s a guy who goes and signs in Japan.
The Angels are currently down a bat.
I’m going to miss watching Viciedo flail around the OF when the White Sox come to town. It was one of the simple joys in life.
This is the kind of guy who will pot up a wOBA of .360 in 180 PA in carefully selected situations with a few memorable big hits.
Then some team will sign him to 3 years and $40M to be a starting LF and he will show once again why he is now a free agent.
Agree with the first part. No reason why he can’t be effective if used properly.
This is the kind of guy who will put up a wOBA of .360 in 180 PA in carefully selected situations with a few memorable big hits.
Then some team will sign him to 3 years and $40M to be a starting LF and he will show once again why he is now a free agent.
Who says the Sox trading Swisher and Vazquez had anything to do with Viciedo? Swisher poisoned the clubhouse when he got benched for Griffey, so they had to get rid of him (and basically gifted the Yankees an All-Star RF). Vazquez left because Kenny Williams cared more about #TWTW than actual talent, though he did get back Tyler Flowers.
Guillen poisoned the clubhouse for 8 years.
Viciedio is demon young with less contact and higher strikeouts. A little more power but he is pretty much worthless
I’m Dayan here !
*Delmon
Delmons are reeeeeeaaaaallll!
The Mets would be a good fit. Too bad they can’t scrape together the league minimum to pay for him.
Mets signed Mayberry Jr to be a backup OF/1B and RHH off the bench. He’s better against lefties than Viciedo and can actually field. And he’s making more than league minimum, so pffftt!
I was always hoping Tank would put it all together, if for no other reason than they’d play “Diane Young” every time he knocked one out to dead center at The Cell.
Thomas Neal is no longer with the Reds. Why are all of the depth charts loaded that way?
He had better stats in Cuba at the same age as Moncada. Just goes to show stats can’t predict the future.
Don’t know of anyone relying on player stats from Cuba to rate IFAs.
“There are also the teams that might have injury needs. If Victor Martinez‘s injury is worse than the Tigers hope, Viciedo could be his temporary replacement. If Kyle Blanks can’t stay healthy again, Viciedo could step in there. Same thing with Alex Rodriguez in New York. And those are just the players we know are hurt or could expect to be hurt.”
Kyle Blanks plays for the Rangers now, in case anyone was confused by that paragraph like I was.
Would be fun to watch in Coors Field both hitting and fielding. Rockies should pick him up and trade Blackmon and Rosario for pitching but outfield defense wouldn’t be great.
That is the roughest place to field if you are slow footed. the Of in Coors is massive (someone thought it would deflate power numbers, instead it makes for far more bloopers)
Vazquez is completely unrelated to Viciedo since he was traded along with Boone Logan for Tyler Flowers+. Not to mention Swisher was the CF/1B for the Sox that year not a corner OF like Viciedo. If I remember correctly, neither of those guys had anything to do with Dayan Viciedo’s playing time.