Hello There

Hi there. How are you? 2020, huh?

2,711 days ago (or at least that’s what Google tells me), I penned my goodbye to the internet. That’s a lot of days. A lot has happened since then, and while I imagine many of you know who I am, eight years is a long time in the world of baseball media. I’m sure for some of you, my name barely registers. And so a quick introduction (or a re-introduction) is in order as I embark on a new chapter here at FanGraphs.

Back in 2012, I’d already been writing about baseball, prospects, scouting, and player development for a long time. I was one of the main contributors at Baseball Prospectus, did a few things for ESPN, had a Sunday show on MLB Network Radio with Mike Ferrin, and did a weekly podcast with my dear friend Jason Parks. It was all a lot of fun, but during that final year in media, teams started calling me. It was weird, but I can’t say I wasn’t interested. I talked to a few. Some led to deeper discussions, some didn’t, and that summer I accepted a position as Coordinator, Pro Scouting with the Houston Astros (commas in titles always bug me, but it was a thing in Houston, as you’ll see…).

I lasted eight years with the club, which probably puts me in the 90th percentile in terms of executive time spent with one team. When I arrived, the Astros were rebuilding and were awful, but the team got better, and ultimately became a powerhouse that went to a pair of World Series, and even won one.

And my career grew as well. After a year, I was promoted to Director, Pro Scouting and finally rose to the role of Special Assistant to the General Manager, Player Personnel. During my time with the Astros, I was exposed to a wide array of baseball operations responsibilities. I did in-person scouting within the pro, amateur and international disciplines, and helped to establish our ability to analyze players using data and video. I was in the war room for both the draft and the trade deadline, in the suite during the winter meetings, attended a handful of GM Meetings and even got to conduct a few trade and free agent negotiations over the past few years.

I’m proud of my contributions on a baseball level in terms of building a consistent winner, and I’m proud of some of the stands I took personally, including speaking strongly against any trade for Roberto Osuna because of his history with domestic violence, as well as being one of two members (updated) of the front office to turn down the invitation to the White House in 2018. At the same time, I wish I had done more to ensure the industry treated the people working in the game better than it does.

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Now let’s deal with the elephant in the room. I have no desire to run from it and pull some Mark McGwire-esque “I’m not here to talk about the past.” I also don’t want it to define me going forward.

Astros. Cheaters! Yup. Believe me, I know. Maybe better than anyone, as I got caught up in it all, and for all the wrong reasons. Let me make this clear. I had nothing to do with any of the in-game sign-stealing or trash can banging the Astros were punished for. Knowing that is one of the reasons I can sleep at night. I didn’t even know about it. I found out about it when most you did, after the first article came out in The Athletic. Chances are you even found out about it before I did, as I was in a meeting when the story first broke. I was as horrified by the revelations as I’m sure many of you were and still are.

My connection with it got really weird shortly thereafter. As you may know, an email that I sent to our scouting staff became a big story because it mentioned cameras and video. Combine that with the cheating scandal and all of a sudden I was cast as being part of the plot.

Let’s back up a bit. First off, the email is real, no “fake news” argument here. I sent it, and completely forgot about it until it was released by the media. It was sent as part of a plan to do advance scouting, a plan that never came to fruition, as the organization decided to all but eliminate in-person pro scouting shortly thereafter. The plan proposed was one of using cameras to be able to better see signals coming from coaches on the bases and in the dugout. Theoretically, this was to be done by scouts in the stands at non-Astros games. Once those signals were later decoded (unlikely, but if they were), that information was to be passed on to A.J. Hinch and his staff, who would presumably use their naked eyes to pick up said signals during games. There was nothing concerning catcher signals (which scouts couldn’t see anyway), live relays or anything like that. It was just an idea, sent by someone new to the advance world who was a bit green in that area, and who didn’t think that trying to better pick up signals was even a problem. I later found out that, at the time, it was a gray area, which in and of itself is a bit embarrassing.

Still, the story came out. Major League Baseball conducted an exhaustive investigation into the club’s actions. The league’s investigators spent hundreds of hours talking to players and various team personnel. They went through people’s phones and computers. They had multiple follow-up conversations with a long list of witnesses. I spoke to them once over the phone for less than 15 minutes, and told them what I just told you. I never spoke with them again. I don’t live in Houston and had zero involvement with game day operations, and it was quickly clear to all involved that I was just collateral damage. You can read the commissioner’s statement on the league’s investigation. My name isn’t mentioned, nor is the email that made me temporarily infamous. I received no punishment, no condemnation, no warnings. I made several requests to club officials to publicly clear my name by granting interviews, but was asked to take one for the team as it were, with the explanation that it would just put the story at the forefront again. I did so, which is high on my list of regrets when I look back on my time with the Astros. The individual cost in terms of my own mental health and personal relationships was considerable.

Last year, I got whacked by the Astros at the end of October. It was inglorious, as most separations in baseball are. It was upsetting, but not surprising; if anything, I’ve always known how to read the room. There was a new administration, a new way of doing things, and I wasn’t being engaged at anywhere near the level I had been previously.

I had time on my hands and nowhere to go thanks to a global pandemic. I picked up a few consulting gigs here and there, caught up on some lengthy and obtuse Japanese RPGs I hadn’t had time for in the past, and for a stretch thought I might still want to work for a team. But between all of the aftereffects of COVID-19 on the industry, and a general sense of what I have called “Astros stink,” it proved to be a challenging task. At the same time, a few media outlets began checking in, including FanGraphs. I had a terrific time working in baseball. The highs were higher and the lows lower than my time in media, but one word kept floating around my brain when I considered coming back to this side of things.

Freedom.

For eight years, I have been tied to my phone, email, and Slack. I never took anything resembling a real vacation. Even a couple days visiting my wife’s sister in California, or an extra day here or there, involved me needing to open my laptop to research players or hop on a call to discuss whatever the pressing issue of the day was. Anniversaries, holidays, birthdays and all manner of celebrations were missed due to constant travel. When discussing coming to FanGraphs, David Appelman used the term “days off policy” and it sounded like a foreign language. And with these talks came other potential freedoms. The freedom to say what I want, to talk honestly and openly about what’s good about this industry and what’s bad about it, and hopefully to entertain and educate the readers along the way.

So what will I be doing at FanGraphs? Well, most importantly, I’ll be writing most days. I like creating content, and I look forward to working with the group here on a variety of projects. In terms of subject matter, I look forward to working with Eric Longenhagen on prospects, scouting, and player development. Identifying and projecting talent still gives me a thrill, but I’m not here to be an equal to Eric on that score. He does a phenomenal job. Nobody else in the prospect space is as thorough in terms of breadth, or embraces and understands modern player evaluation like Eric does. In terms of his world, it’s most definitely his, I’m just here to help him and give him a chance to breathe once in a while.

In terms of bigger-picture baseball stuff, I want to share what I learned during my eight years in the inner circle of a front office. I’m a fan of how-the-sausage-is-made pieces, and I want to talk about how trades go down, how free agent contracts are negotiated, and all of the variables and processes that go into the various decisions that get made on a daily basis across baseball. I also want to get into the nitty gritty of some of the things I learned that fascinate me, smaller things like how a player ends up going to Asia, or how teams do background checks on potential draftees.

I plan on writing about bigger issues in the industry, and also react to the news of the day, where hopefully the insight I’ve gained can help provide a greater understanding of moves that on the surface might not seem to make much sense. For the people who think they might want to one day work on the team side, I want to provide perspective on all of the wonderful things that come with it, as well as the considerable pitfalls.

Finally, there’s always the podcast, which was what I was best known for back in the day. I loved doing that show, and I loved our audience. I’ve spoken privately to various friends in the industry about my return to the public side of things, and the first question is nearly unanimous. “Are you bringing the podcast back?” The answer to that question is no. To bring it back would be impossible. My co-host is indisposed at this time, and to “bring it back” would be an insult to his contributions. There will be a new podcast, though, and we’ll talk about baseball and all sorts of weird things that have nothing to do with the game, and we’ll have a really good time while we do. I’m still working out the particulars, but it certainly will happen, and soon.

I want to be in tune with our readers and listeners, who in the past made suggestions for pieces and projects that turned into some of my best work. I want to know what your questions are, and what you wonder about that I might be able to provide some insight on. I want the FanGraphs audience to play a role in defining what I do here. So please don’t hesitate to reach out in the comments, on Twitter (@Kevin_Goldstein), or through whatever medium you are comfortable with.

We will figure things out together. I’m here for the audience and want to give you what you want, and I can’t wait to get started. It’s good to be back.





Kevin Goldstein is a National Writer at FanGraphs.

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JayGray007Member since 2024
5 years ago

whoa!

tomerafan
5 years ago
Reply to  JayGray007

Whoa is right! This is huge. I’m really interested to see what your perspective brings to Fangraphs.

darkness88
5 years ago

Welcome!

py2slMember since 2016
5 years ago

Welcome! I for one am excited for the perspective that you will bring to this great site.

Eddie BMember since 2020
5 years ago

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great read and welcome back to the outside world. May you enjoy your freedom, and it is certainly interesting to read a glimpse of your view of the scandal.

aglossmanMember since 2016
5 years ago

Welcome to Fangraphs, man. Good to have you aboard.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago

Welcome!

Doing baseball writing well enough to get a job with a major league team, getting caught in a massive cheating scandal, being swept out as a new group takes over, and then conveying the incredible insight you have from working in a front office to Fangraphs readers sounds like a great win for us. Just please don’t leave us for ESPN so soon.

hombremomento
5 years ago

Bonjour, Mr Goldstein! Or Un-Au Revoir? Not sure. However, nice to have another writer back on the FanGraphs site

kcshanklandMember since 2024
5 years ago

Holllleeeyyy Shit!

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
5 years ago

This is awesome! A coup for the public baseball side.

MikeD
5 years ago

Absolutely…especially as he will now be able to bring greater insights on what goes on behind the wall.

armstrongmiMember since 2020
5 years ago

excellent!

cnewty
5 years ago

This is an exciting addition to the Fangraphs staff. Welcome Kevin!

springerMember since 2018
5 years ago

Will you be doing a weekly chat?

Stinneford1Member since 2016
5 years ago

Very exciting news! Great to have you Kevin

Eric Hinz
5 years ago

Glad to have you re-surface here. Seems the best step-up and are never heard from again.

RedsManRickMember since 2020
5 years ago

Welcome back. I’ll put a Modelo in the fridge.

Would love articles along the lines of “what teams know about players that we don’t. “

BMember since 2020
5 years ago

Maybe there is hope for 2021 after all!

Ross
5 years ago

My boy is back!!

decicco108
5 years ago

So glad to have you back Kevin! And thank you for your honesty regarding the scandal… enjoy your freedom!

Thelongball24Member since 2016
5 years ago

Welcome!!! We are excited to have you here.

13stoploss
5 years ago

Sooo, which JRPGs? 🤣😎

James MinnisMember since 2020
5 years ago

I’ll have to check those out. Some day my toddler might leave me with enough free time to play JRPGs again.

Also, welcome. I’m looking forward to reading your writing again. 🙂

jaywil08
5 years ago

Welcome! This is a great addition.

DeadheadbrewerMember since 2016
5 years ago

Glad you’re back! The actions mentioned in paragraph five are true feathers in your cap, as far as I’m concerned, so kudos.

dl80Member since 2026
5 years ago

Kevin, I think you’ll be a great addition here, and I believe strongly in second chances. However, given that the rule in use at the time said “no equipment may be used for the purpose of stealing signs or conveying information designed to give a Club an advantage,” calling it a grey area seems disingenuous. Especially with reports that most of the Astros scouts immediately balked at the idea.

I’m open to other opinions, though, if Kevin (or anyone else) wants to jump in.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  dl80

It bears questioning. I had the same thought, reading this. I mean, we knew cameras weren’t allowed WRT signs, and relaying signs from the stands wasn’t allowed either, right?

Elias AschMember since 2026
5 years ago
Reply to  dl80

Differing opinion here: I think many people read that rule as only referring to real-time sign stealing. Clearly established as okay: Picking up on and relaying opponents’ signs without tech during a game, or picking up on opponents’ signs without tech as part of advance scouting and putting it in reports to be used (without tech) during games. Clearly established as not-okay: using tech to pick up on or relay opponents’ signs during games (although even this line has become blurry, with multiple teams abusing their video rooms). In the gray area: using tech as part of advance scouting to do a better job of picking up on opponents’ signs than you would with the naked eye, and putting it in reports to be used (without tech) during games. All teams use video (some of which isn’t available to the public) as part of their scouting—as long as this isn’t in-game, I’m not sure it’s any different. It seems to at least be against norms (as the scouts clearly noted), but if you’re an outsider in an organization of outsiders who are committed to pushing the envelope, questioning norms is part of what gives you an edge. What’s interesting here is that Kevin didn’t (to the best of my knowledge) proceed from questioning the norm to violating it once the scouts (quite pointedly, I’m sure) explained it to him.

None of which it to excuse the Astros for all of their other forms of cheating or employer malpractice.

dl80Member since 2026
5 years ago
Reply to  Elias Asch

I think that’s a pretty fair take on it. I would love to have Kevin confirm it. It’s not that I think it’s some awful black mark on his record; I just found the wording curious without further explanation.

evo34Member since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  Elias Asch

The thing is he was in his fourth year of being pro scouting director. You think this was the very first time he had talked about signs with scouts?

That’s virtually impossible. He knew the rules and norms, and was actively trying to get around them.

tylerdurden31
5 years ago

Why are you bragging about not attending the 2018 White House invite? A little holier-than-thou, doncha think? Like it or not you have Astros stink all over your once-good name. I will never read a word of your writing here.

dl80Member since 2026
5 years ago
Reply to  tylerdurden31

Because Trump is a wannabe fascist

docgooden85Member since 2018
5 years ago
Reply to  dl80

Wannabe status ended 4-5 years ago.

Terry HusethMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  dl80

Sad politics has to even enter this conversation, or this site.
Personally, putting Osuna and the White House in the same grouping reminds me of ghe Clinton White House.

I will still read your articles, but the above, combined with the scouting with cameras idea makes me a bit doubting.

dodgerbleu
5 years ago
Reply to  tylerdurden31

I have spoken up on this in the past but think this misses the mark. Meg and David should not have allowed that statement, but I’ll give a one-time pass as it’s just an introductory article and maybe they thought he needed to perform damage control for some reason. If he continues to mention politics, I also won’t read anything. But, while I did wince, it was just one statement that I felt was intended to be innocuous, just happens to be about a topic where it’s impossible to be innocuous. Anywho, he’s not the editor or managing editor or publisher, for my money they should’ve and could’ve pulled a single line that had an unintended consequence of politicizing an article otherwise devoid of politics.

As far as the Astros, he’s essentially telling us he was ostracized. I think that’s enough. It’s the players that benefited professionally and financially from the cheating, who got off the hook without any consequence. Respectfully, he was a rising star in a powerhouse organization, and due to his involvement could not get another team position at this time. Sounds to me like he paid his pound of flesh and is looking for a fresh start. He is still paying for it. For us not to sympathize with that sounds a little holier-than-thou, methinks.

theflusher
5 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

No, the managing editor saves her views – Defund the Police, namely – for more public platforms

free-range turducken
5 years ago
Reply to  theflusher

From Meg’s twitter:

“still disorienting to see politics people actually engaging with the baseball crank, you do not need to engage with the baseball crank, we implore you to stop engaging with this particular crank”.

I don’t care where she falls on the political spectrum, if Meg keeps doing what she’s been doing, I’ll remain a huge fan.

theflusher
5 years ago

she literally has a tweet that says to defund the police

bookbookMember since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  theflusher

You’re saying that like “defund the police” isn’t the right direction to go. Two days after nine cops handcuffed a 9-year-old girl and then maced her in the face. It’s not politics, it’s human rights.

gavinrendar
5 years ago
Reply to  bookbook

“It’s not politics” is becoming the most tired euphemism for “Agree with my political views or you’re a terrible human.”

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  gavinrendar

Yes. Whenever one sufficiently large group of people disagrees with another sufficiently large group of people on the best way to proceed, that’s political.

I think when people say “it’s not politics”, they’re trying to make a plea for empathy. Because it’s obviously not literally true.

Dooduh
5 years ago
Reply to  gavinrendar

Human rights should not be a political issue. That is really all. It’s just people standing up for basic human rights and equality. It’s people arguing against those things who are making them ‘political’ to suit an agenda.

gavinrendar
5 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

Saying “it’s human rights” is a red herring though.

Guess which side thinks they’re on the side of human rights when it comes to abortion? Both.

Guess which side thinks they’re on the side of human rights when it comes to hiring candidates based on race to achieve diversity? Both.

Guess which side thinks they’re on the side of human rights when it comes to reparations based on race? Both.

So how do we resolve this? By pitting the actual ideas against each other in debate, not by simply using empty platitudes declaring your side to be right without actually supporting it.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  gavinrendar

In terms of how the right-wing activists themselves think about it: Those last two probably aren’t true, but the first one definitely is.

Dooduh
5 years ago
Reply to  gavinrendar

We would all co-exist warmly if issues of disagreement were this subtle and nuanced. But unfortunately we’re really talking about much more fundamental issues – equality, access to health care and education , justice system free from biases, and the police not killing citizens for the crime of being black.

gavinrendar
5 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

Dooduh:

Or murdering living children in the womb? ( <- EXAMPLE )

Every issue can be explained in a way that makes the other side look horrible for disagreeing. Don't make the mistake of thinking that only works from your side, nor of thinking it's effective or rational. It's bad debate and it's indecent.

Dooduh
5 years ago
Reply to  gavinrendar

You can spin this anyway you want to suit a particular agenda. And I’m just gonna call BS on the false moral equivalencies, so spare me the ‘bad’ or ‘indecent’ nonsense.

You’ll have to do better than claiming that the left wants to ‘murder innocent babies in the womb’. No one wants to do that, so framing any debate that way will lose you all credibility. It’s simply a matter of dominion of one’s own body and it’s no on else’s business what medical decisions one chooses to make.

People on the other side are in open war against basic democracy and the right to vote – the most basic democratic principle there is in this country. When people (A LOT OF THEM) support the questioning of election signatures in “inner cities” it’s very clear what exactly that means and it’s extremely pernicious.

Of course not to mention the obvious that support of the cult on the right is support of the attempted violent overthrow of the US capital and blocking the peaceful transfer of power.

So, go ahead and pick your side…

gavinrendar
5 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

Dooduh.

You totally missed the point. That “murder” line was an example, meant to look as absurd as your own lines. I’m not actually trying to get into debates about the policies themselves, just calling you out for the way you’re trying to talk about them (which yes, is indecent). I’m not going to talk to you about race or abortion or riots or right versus left. This isn’t the place for it, nor do I think a debate with someone who attacks motives instead of ideas like you do would be a productive one. Your “pick your side” line is even more evidence that you aren’t interested in the honest exchange of ideas anyway. Just looking for another political knife fight in an online comments section.

You don’t even know what my stances are, because I haven’t given any. You’re going 110 in a 35 right now. Slow down.

gavinrendar
5 years ago
Reply to  bookbook

Meg shouldn’t be criticized on here for opinions she expresses outside of Fangraphs or outside her role as Fangraphs editor/representative. That’s just another example of toxic cancel culture to do that. If she lets it permeate into her work, that is absolutely fair game to criticize. Both of these points are common sense.

tarvisMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  gavinrendar

This.

free-range turducken
5 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

Standing up against the Osuna deal was an act of decency and courage, and on its own would have been enough to make the point that he wasn’t a knee-jerk sycophant to the culture there. Refusing to go to the White House was merely an act of political objection (which is his right), but should not be equated with taking a moral stand against the Astros’ culture. I’m more than willing to bet that some of the group that did go were Democrats.

tarvisMember since 2019
5 years ago

I think this is a fair take.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

There’s only one party that has utterly forced us to talk about politics–it’s the party of Trump. We can choose to ignore the unbelievable, staggering damage they are doing, but to do so is to normalize. Some things are more important than sports, even on a sports site. Though I also understand the need to escape politics, because it’s all horrible.

BMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

Yep

MikeD
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

Drew, I certainly agree with your last sentence, but disagree with your sentiment that only one party has forced us to talk about politics. I’m a product of a mixed marriage — uhh, meaning Dad was a D and Mom was an R — which means I either grew up in a household with fascinating political conversations or brawls! Fortunately, it was the former. In a two-party system, both parties force political conversations, and the R’s and D’s of today are purposely pitting citizens against each other to a degree that I haven’t seen during my lifetime. I frankly despise both of them now, hence my agreement with your last sentence.

gavinrendar
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

-Decries people bringing up politics.
-Immediately proceeds to grace us with his/her political opinions.

Nolan TurnerMember since 2021
5 years ago
Reply to  dodgerbleu

I’m sure Meg is eternally grateful that you’ll give it a pass this one time.

Doc Codfish
5 years ago
Reply to  tylerdurden31

I’m sure he’ll really miss you, tylerdurden31

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  tylerdurden31

Buy a sub or get out, then. Nobody cares what you choose to read here otherwise.

DLHughey
5 years ago
Reply to  tylerdurden31

I’ll answer seriously and relatively apolitically. It’s because he has his principles, which he is entitled to, and that’s a line he chose to draw, going against his upper management in a relatively hivemind, “yes man” industry, specifically a team full of corporate consultant culture. He claims to have objected to Osuna in the same circumstances. And he regrets not pushing back regarding his reputation after the email leaked. Put the pieces together and you can see the point of what he’s saying, instead of going “OMG, he had politics opinion”.

steex
5 years ago
Reply to  DLHughey

Agreed. Reading Kevin’s piece, he says ” I’m proud of some of the stands I took personally.” He doesn’t even pass judgment on others for their choices or ultimate outcomes. It’s not inherently controversial or judgmental to be proud of doing what you believe is right.

Richard Bergstrom
5 years ago
Reply to  DLHughey

He’s trying to be ethical in a very unethical organization that has little accountability. It’s the same group that basically thumbed their nose at the accusations at cheating and actively tried to discredit the female reporters subjected to Taubman’s outburst (not to mention, not caring how toxic Taubman was in the first place).

bluerum29
5 years ago
Reply to  tylerdurden31

Like I try and teach students today who are not happy about who the current President is. Doesn’t matter if you like them or not, you be respectful of them since they are in that position.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  bluerum29

Do you also teach that respect is earned?

bluerum29
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

The position and the white house itself gets respect. That has been earned, the personal aspects of the person in the position is different. I don’t respect the current president politically, but will still show respect to the position and the person in it regardless of political opinions. Having and respecting different political opinions/ideology has been an important mainstay of our country. Sadly, that has been going away and has become the “agree with me or you are a bad person” mentality.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  bluerum29

Because one party has decided to actually become and embrace being bad people, yes.

bluerum29
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

There are individuals in society, across all party affiliations embrace being bad, but I would say they are still in the minority. Just because someone favored a Presidents policies, doesn’t mean they can be lumped into an ideology of embracing being bad people. Unfortunately, some can’t focus on policy and prefer to focus on personality.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  bluerum29

Also, you said “them”, which was not a reference to the position and the WH, but to the individual men who have been President.

RobM
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

I disagree that respect is “earned”. It’s backwards. I give respect to everyone from the start. You lose respect by your actions, you don’t earn it. Respect should be the default starting point.

Tyler359
5 years ago
Reply to  tylerdurden31

I believe the argument was “yes my organization cheated but I wasn’t the leader and I do not like trump so that makes up for any small thing I may have done wrong.”

FrancoeursteinMember since 2025
5 years ago

Hell yes! Most of the writers here go and work for a team, but you pulled the ole Reverse Uno on us. Super exciting to read your work and gain a greater insight on what goes down in the FO.

Jason BMember since 2017
5 years ago
Reply to  Francoeurstein

SHIT WHO PLAYED THIS DRAW FOUR…

MikeD
5 years ago
Reply to  Francoeurstein

It’s interesting. The analytics side of baseball has been around long enough where we’re now seeing analysts who moved to MLB FO positions returning to the public side. Kiley McDaniel was certainly a part of that, although Keith Law might be the trailblazer there. Or is it actually Bill James, who was the trailblazer in everything?! I don’t quite count Bill James in this small but growing group simply because he really hasn’t gone back to doing what he did prior, although I would welcome an update to the Historical Baseball Encyclopedia. I’m sure we all would.

Richard Bergstrom
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeD

I believe there were other writers hired by teams before James though it’s also worth noting there were analysts before James.

John ChurchMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeD

It’s been longer since the “New” Historical Abstract than the time between the original and the New.

Which is scary because it means I’m old.

Brad JohnsonMember
5 years ago

The important question is this: will you be returning to Albumball?

Big JgkeMember since 2020
5 years ago

This is hugely exciting news. Up and In was the best, and it was truly heartbreaking when you stopped doing it.

One question though, do you regret popularising the quirky/obscure baseball-term name for a podcast? Was that inevitable? Important questions like this must be answered.

kylerkelton
5 years ago

Looking forward to hearing your insight!

richwp01Member since 2019
5 years ago

I am very interested in the Free Agent signing during the offseason. As a White Sox fan, I want to know how you think the Joc Pederson rejecting $10m and White Sox signing Adam Eaton for $8m (And Joc eventually getting $7M from the Cubs). It looks like the White Sox wanted to have a known costs at SP and RF to be able to budget for the RP Hendriks.

lavarnway
5 years ago

Congrats on the world series and congrats on the sanctimony.

The Ancient Mariner
5 years ago
Reply to  lavarnway

It has been my consistent observation that those who are offended by sanctimony are those who are prone to it. Those who are not may be troubled by it, especially when expressed by those who hold opinions similar to their own, but they are not threatened by it.

DaronMember since 2017
5 years ago

As weird as this probably is, I experienced a form of mourning when the Up & In podcast ended. It was the very first podcast I started listening to with regularity (I would frequently refresh my podcast feed in hopes a new episode had dropped). For as bummed as I was when Kevin left the baseball internet behind, I am equally happy today to hear this news!

D.B. FIRSTMANMember since 2025
5 years ago

Hey there Sarge ….. welcome back from The Scrabble Lady!

Baseball Anagrams
5 years ago
Reply to  D.B. FIRSTMAN

Ditto that!

@D.B. – you are my inspiration!!

Dactos
5 years ago
Reply to  D.B. FIRSTMAN

Aha another scrabbler! Hi DB from Canik 😀

BMember since 2020
5 years ago

Whatever became of the mattress people?

Drakos
5 years ago
Reply to  B

Yes. This is the real question.

ryannicholasparker
5 years ago

Hell yeah

jwbersaniMember since 2018
5 years ago

Welcome back to us, KG!!

terencemann
5 years ago

Much like reuniting with an old lover, I’m going to take this one day at a time and try not to be crushed when KG moves on, again.

Richard Bergstrom
5 years ago

Welcome back! Are you on Facebook again too? I haven’t seen you on there in a few years.

Ericksonb32
5 years ago

Welcome to have you aboard

John W.
5 years ago

Ahh…

crazyhorseMember since 2019
5 years ago

Welcome back KG. You picked a perfect platform to make your return. It took me awhile to get past the sadness of not listening to Up and In.

HarryWBMember since 2020
5 years ago

Welcome, Kevin! I’m excited by the perspective you will bring to these columns. The more we understand the nuances of scouting, front office, etc. and their implications for how rosters are actually constructed and utilized, the better off we all are in this community. I look forward to reading your work.

d_iMember since 2016
5 years ago

Excited to have you back. Crazy how much has changed. I used to yearn for your podcast to come out – hungry for content. Now I wish people would slow down about it. I can’t dream of keeping up with the podcasts. Sincerely – Sandals Guy from 2012 Futures Game.

RobertMember since 2016
5 years ago

Sany hope that you will keep your politics out of your ink?

Jason BMember since 2017
5 years ago
Reply to  Robert

And here I thought the *other side* was the snowflakes…

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Jason B

They project quite a bit.

lillypad
5 years ago
Reply to  Robert

❄️

Earl of EMember since 2020
5 years ago

Fantastic news. Welcome , Kevin.

12 to sixMember since 2020
5 years ago

as an original angel listener to up and in, i’m very pleased to see what your perspective brings these years later, kevin. welcome back.

TonyMember since 2017
5 years ago

Welcome! I’m glad to be able to read your writing again.

theflusher
5 years ago

Did we really need the self-congratulatory lib musings in the introductory article? I mean Jesus, at least wait until week 3 or something.

Congrats on being a better human being than each and every one of the rank degenerates spread within the Houston front office. You win….nothing, because no one cares.

Just try not to dislocate your elbow patting yourself on the back from now on

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  theflusher

You clowns are so easily triggered. If you don’t like it, go to Barstool or something.

dl80Member since 2026
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

Or Joe Rogen

Dooduh
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

yep, snowflakes are out tonight apparently.

Nolan TurnerMember since 2021
5 years ago
Reply to  theflusher

damn bro u triggered?

Jason BMember since 2017
5 years ago
Reply to  theflusher

Someone misplaced their pacifier…did you miss your nap time?

bbenja01Member since 2018
5 years ago

Fangraphs still the best site on the internet

Domingo AyalaMember since 2024
5 years ago

Excellent decision to get political in your first article. Alienating 50% of your audience from the start is always a good idea.

theflusher
5 years ago
Reply to  Domingo Ayala

To be fair, it’s probably more like 15%. The lib rate among the disenfranchised and those who were stuffed in lockers in high school hovers somewhere around 99.8%

Domingo AyalaMember since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  theflusher

Well, that seems unnecessary. But I do think it’s true that this site is overwhelmingly liberal. So maybe this was an attempt to relate to his audience.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Domingo Ayala

It’s an attempt to communicate basic morality, which is somthing the party of Trump has abandoned, and perhaps you have as well?

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  theflusher

@flusher Bullying people is why your kind loses.

Domingo AyalaMember since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  Domingo Ayala

For those down voting, is it because you support his politics or because you are in favor of bringing politics to Fangraphs? Genuinely curious

Jason BMember since 2017
5 years ago
Reply to  Domingo Ayala

(C) Neither of the above.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Domingo Ayala

It’s because your comment brought considerably more politics to this article than anything Kevin wrote.

KevinMember since 2021
5 years ago

So glad that you’re back, can’t wait for the podcast! This finally made me run out of excuses for not having a fangraphs membership…

MichaelMember since 2017
5 years ago

Hooray. The best baseball news in a long time!

regfairfield
5 years ago

Great hire Meg! Are you thinking of adding John Coppoletta or maybe Al Campanis next! Can’t wait to see more great content here at fangraphs.com!

regfairfield
5 years ago
Reply to  regfairfield

Brandon Taubman is selling cars and I’m sure he has a better excuse for what he did than “I forgot I did that”. He was on a GM track! I’m sure he can provide the kind of excellent analysis we loyal readers crave

regfairfield
5 years ago
Reply to  regfairfield

Anyway, I totally believe that you took a bold stand against every single bad thing the Astros did, and the one time you strayed from the light is when you got caught.

r24j
5 years ago
Reply to  regfairfield

Taubman isn’t “selling cars” – he’s the Chief Information Officer for a company. Not celebrating that, I’m just noting how disgusting it is he found such high office again, even outside baseball. He isn’t slumming it.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  r24j

Old boys’ networks are still alive and kicking.

free-range turducken
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

Ain’t that the truth. Power begets power…occasionally letting those outside of its specs come into the circle so they can check an HR “diversity” box…but without real power lol.

RobM
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

True Drew, although the old “boys'” networks have now been expanded and include women in increasing cases, with hopefully more to come. Diversity of thought and ideas that come with people with different life experiences is a good thing. I work for a rather massive corporation, so what I will say, and it’s why I put boys in quotes, is the women in those networks are now part of the new “people” networks, and they equally take care of themselves. If you’re in–be you male or female–you’re set and will be taken care of. If you’re out, you’re out.

theflusher
5 years ago
Reply to  regfairfield

Only 3 more months til Chris Correa is released. Almost in time for Opening Day!

batts40Member since 2017
5 years ago

SARGE IS BACK BABY!

jgaztambideMember since 2016
5 years ago

I’m so glad to have Kevin Goldstein back in my baseball life. Welcome back, sir!

dREaDS Fan
5 years ago

So …. what are you drinking, Kevin? Look forward to having that question answered weekly on some aptly named future podcast. Welcome back & what a pleasant surprise – it’s so rare to have a known quantity join Fangraphs (versus leave, which happens all too often).

Bernie Sanders
5 years ago

General Kenobi!

Pirates HurdlesMember since 2024
5 years ago

Fantastic news! Always a big fan of your work at BP, great to have you here!

Also, I really appreciate the head on approach about how things ended in HOU.

leitesMember since 2019
5 years ago

Ah, this is great! Very much looking forward to reading and listening to you on a regular basis. Hope you will eventually do some in-person events in NYC, perhaps at Foley’s 2.0 if that comes back as well!

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago

It’s like a different lifetime come back. Welcome back, Kevin. I very much look forward to posts on the inner workings of baseball ops.

r24j
5 years ago

Hey Kevin. I began reading FanGraphs after your exit, but I firstly wanted to say I’m happy you found your next chapter in baseball, and that it’s in the public sector. Obviously, based on your resume, you are a high-level performer and your insights will be intriguing to read going forward.

Also, I want to note I’m a believer in second chances. I don’t think David or Meg would have brought you back in a full-time capacity if there were known character issues with you that seem to have run rampant throughout the Astros organization. So again, I’m open-minded and think your perspective will be a unique flavor here.

With that, and at the risk of being downvoted into oblivion, I felt this was sort of an odd introduction.

It feels like half of the article was justification that you’re a just person who got caught amidst the chaos. And I’m not saying you’re not. I’m sure you’re great. But, I get a lot of “MLB Front Office stink” when reading this – based on my own experience working with and around teams over the past four years.

I think not going to the White House in 2018 and vocally denouncing Osuna is sort of the bare minimum, not particularly a bragging point. The Osuna acquisition and Chicago’s acquisition of Chapman are among more of the uncomfortable moments in our sport over the last decade. And honestly, it discouraged me (but didn’t surprise me) that more of your colleagues with the Astros and across the league did not take any kind of moral stand over the past four years.

It reminded me that today’s front office infrastructure has far more Jared Porters and Brandon Taubmans (who has since landed another cushy job) than not. Or in other words, a total lack of diversity – beyond white, financially privileged, Ivy League (or Little Ivy) educated, cishet men. Not that this wasn’t already apparent, but that’s what I mean when I say “Front Office stink.”

Again, yes – you were one of the few who didn’t see Trump in 2018. But, you also note how you regret maybe not doing more in other ways. It’s one thing to write about the problems you witnessed in the public sector versus making actual tangible changes while you were on the inside and had considerable standing in the hierarchical chain with a highly-successful team. And I get a lot of baseball is politics. It’s hard to rock the boat without jeopardizing your own financial well-being. But again, I think it’s valid criticism, given your standing. And maybe you did more to lobby for more women, more persons of color, more diversity of thinking in the front office beyond the spreadsheets – but if you did, it wasn’t noted.

I don’t want to rag on you and I realize this comment may be one of the few that’s hit hard with the downvotes, but I thought it was important to note my feelings on this. I do look forward to reading your work. I trust David and Meg, and know you are a highly popular contributor here. I’m glad you have a semblance of work-life balance back. I know all too well how vigorous and exhausting the baseball lifestyle is. None of this is anything personal – it just really reminded me why I left and of all the things that made me uncomfortable about that workplace. I wish you the best and look forward to seeing what you’ve got waiting for us.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  r24j

I can’t see why this would get downvotes. It’s a measured, nuanced opinion that is informed, and humanizes.

Shirtless Johan Santa
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

I upvoted for exactly this reason. Much better way to put things than blurting something like: “It’s an attempt to communicate basic morality, which is somthing the party of Trump has abandoned, and perhaps you have as well?”

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago

@SJS That comment was in reference to a pro-Trump commenter. Maybe nested comments didn’t make that clear. Also, I was asking a question in good faith.

Shirtless Johan Santa
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

Oops, my bad. Folks not expressly agreeing with the point of view of the correct 50% of the populace deserve to have their basic morality questioned (in good faith of course).

Thanks for informing and humanizing this comment section with your measured, nuanced posts!

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago

Nuance also applies to interpreting others’ posts, FYI.

Dee P. Gordon
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

@drewsylvania Domingo Ayala posted about alienating 50% of the audience well after the first political post was made here, and then responded to the “flusher” righty troll by calling his comment unnecessary and joking that maybe Kevin was playing to the mostly liberal commenters here.

I’m liberal, but I don’t see how those comments make Domingo Ayala a “pro-Trump commenter”.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Dee P. Gordon

Argh. People need to re-read and parse this comments section correctly.

Dee P. Gordon
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

@drewsylvania Sigh. You’re playing the “conservatives are beneath being heard” business so insistently, I’m beginning to believe you’re a conservative troll pretending to be a liberal to make progressives look bad.

Domingo AyalaMember since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  Dee P. Gordon

I’m libertarian, for what it’s worth. I just hate seeing politics brought into Fangraphs, which has been a trend in recent years.

Dooduh
5 years ago
Reply to  Dee P. Gordon

Nah, you just missed it.

mrenick1974Member since 2018
5 years ago

well, there’s the best news of the month.

HecubotMember since 2022
5 years ago

Welcome back! Excited to have your expertise onboard. (Was worried Eric was going to burnout doing all the prospect-ing solo.)

Thanks for being so forthright about your Astros experience.

Brad Lipton
5 years ago

Kevin,

There are a few points I want to make.

First, while most of the comments have been positive/welcoming, a few are not. I think that there are probably more people not as happy with your arrival at Fangraphs than such a ratio might indicate. In other words, those not as happy aren’t posting (though they did upvote a comment about the “rules” and video). Please keep that in mind moving forward.

Second, and it hits on the first point, I think that you will always have that “Astros stink” on you for most people. While your introductory article acknowledges a little bit of that, you may not realize (based on the article) how long that will last. For many people, it will never go away completely. It is probably best to own it ( a bit more than you did within the introductory article). It is part of who you are and your history, for better (which will provide you with stories/insights to share) or worse (will can negatively impact any position you may take).

Third, you have a unique and important perspective to add to Fangraphs based on your time with the Astros. THAT is the part you need to accentuate always while writing here. You are an insider and can provide perspective that is very, very valuable to the readership. For me, this is what makes your hire so attractive. I WANT to hear your stories about this or that as it relates to your time as an insider…and how it allows you to analyze current situations.

Fourth, please try and NOT add in politics to your baseball articles if it isn’t directly germane to a point you are making. When you do add politics, the comments section can easily digress into a political discussion which is very likely not your intention. You want people to discuss the baseball-related aspects of your article, not the politics. I am not sure all Fangraphs writers get this point. It isn’t good business.

Also, welcome aboard and I look forward to your first real article for the site.

SaltyMember since 2017
5 years ago
Reply to  Brad Lipton

Well put, Brad. Adding a throw-in line with a tinge of politics will do nothing more than distract from the topic at hand. Sticking to your previous FG experience along with the additional knowledge you’ve gained over these last 8 years is all you need to be a productive member of the FG team.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Brad Lipton

I agree generally, but I don’t see how politics is bad for business, at least in terms of revenue.

free-range turducken
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

Politics is why I’ve stopped watching most of the current spectrum of “news” channels. I get updates on the COVID pandemic from Accuweather’s blog, and for everything else besides local news I go to either Newsy or NHK’s English-language network.

So yes, politics is bad for business.

Runaway ToasterMember since 2016
5 years ago

Let me get this straight, you think that cable news networks *just recently* became political?

free-range turducken
5 years ago

Oh, many years ago (and I’ve been around a while lol). Cable news, the big 3 networks news, they all serve up more analysis and spin than basic reporting of the facts.

Runaway ToasterMember since 2016
5 years ago

If we’re talking about the longer time frame (I am also regrettably old), I agree with you. The problem is that straight facts and news don’t sell. Most people don’t want straight facts either, they want someone to reaffirm what they already feel, and search out “news” sources which provide that. I’d love to blame the news sources for this, but it really is our fault as a society and they simply followed the money.

Sports websites are no exception to this either. Look at how outright awful Reddit’s individual team subreddits are compared to the general baseball one.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

If you can, the best play is always to make everyone think you tacitly agree with them. If you can pull that off, great. But it’s hard to do that these days, since a certain political faction has labeled the entire journalism industry a public enemy.

You gotta play the hand you’re dealt.

FrodoBeck
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I don’t think it’s hard at all or unfair to just expect a baseball website to completely abstain from politics at all. I just want to come here and read about baseball and not care at all about the trash flying around the other parts of the internet.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  FrodoBeck

I agree. I guess Kevin might have been better served by removing references to his WH decision. But he was already arriving with the elephant of the Astros scandal, as he put it. I’m sure he needed to find a way to further indicate distance from the Astros. Him stating he was one of two high-level staff who boycotted does that. Not that that’s a perfect way to do it.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  FrodoBeck

I always read “I don’t want to hear about politics” to mean “I don’t want to hear about politics I disagree with.” The insufferable trolls complaining about this single line need therapy, or perhaps need to go on a long walk. Politics is a part of life, and the author felt it was an important aspect to cover in introducing himself. There is nothing wrong with that. Lastly, I’ll note that this is a perfect example of why no one takes conservatives claims of “cancel culture” seriously. You clearly have no problem with silencing or cancelling if you get to be the ones doing it.

FrodoBeck
5 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

How is me wanting him to not mention politics cancel culture? I don’t want a Trump supporting writer to bring up his or her thoughts here either (not that I expect that will ever happen on Fangraphs to be fair). If I want to read drivel like that, I can go many other places. If I want analytic baseball analysis, there’s only a couple place I can go and this is one of them.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  FrodoBeck

Unfortunately, it’s impossible to completely stay out of politics. People get attacked for literally reporting basic facts, in everything from sports to business to public health. It’s hell out there, and since our wall are not heat-proof, it’s hell in here as well.

I would certainly prefer that it not be like this too but it is. Wishing for it to go away doesn’t make it go away. At some point, racism or sexism or something else is going to come up. FG shouldn’t seek it out and should tread carefully when it does come up, but it’s just impossible to avoid now.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yep. One party has decided to believe that truth is false. Against that, there is no recourse.

motown odenMember since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  Brad Lipton

As someone who has worked in customer service for 35 or so years, the idea that those who disagree with ANYTHING are more likely to stay silent than those who are satisfied, well, that just blows my mind.

evo34Member since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  motown oden

Imagine if those calling into complain were just the tip of the iceberg…

You don’t happen to work for Spectrum, do you?

darkbardMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Brad Lipton

I’m going to offer a dissenting opinion. Politics is a part of our identity and action in the world, our perspectives and built-in biases, regardless of what we may want. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous and speaks to a form of privilege that rarely sees true challenges to its power in the world (not targeting anyone specifically here; I just think it’s a truism). As for the claim that politics is bad for business: (1) customer-brand synergy is a driving point of commerce, and business of all stripes, especially media, takes notice how political posturing plays into this; (2) some issues are just more important morally than trying to appeal to the widest audience base.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  darkbard

Yes. And we’re witnessing the most blatant anti-moral behavior by a party in this two-party system that any of us have ever seen. Impossible not to have a strong opinion about it, and important to oppose it.

Dooduh
5 years ago
Reply to  Brad Lipton

Wow, this is so thick with condescension and projection of what ‘others here’ think. You are best off just speaking for yourself.

And to the issue of politics that you claim KG inserted into this introductory piece, that is also a projection that you read into it. KG merely stated a fact that he didn’t attend the WH Astros ceremony. If people have an issue with this intersection of sports and ‘politics’ then the WH should stop inviting teams to come there and the people involved won’t have to make any moral decisions or compromises. In fact, the WH shouldn’t get involved in pro sports issues at all. Doing so was clearly calculated to cause a wedge and it obv worked from reading many comments here.

So there is a lot of misplaced finger wagging in here for something that ends up being foisted upon someone who is probably not looking to make any political statement, if you will, but ends up being forced to.

But as to the claim that people should ‘leave politics out of sports’, well that’s basically a fool’s errand. When people reduce ‘politics’ to issues of basic human rights, many athletes and others directly involved are invariably going to speak their minds. They are just as affected by what goes on as anyone else. You don’t get to say who can or can’t express an opinion.

evo34Member since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  Dooduh

How about “leave cheating baseball executives out of fangraphs”?

jsdspudMember since 2018
5 years ago

Kevin, I am happy that you are writing in the public space again but sad as well with the way things ended for you in Houston. I can’t wait to read your articles and listen to the podcast.

Every time I see a mattress out for the garbage I think of you.

marchandman34Member since 2020
5 years ago

Welcome aboard Kevin, a coup for Fangraphs and us readers!

slane35
5 years ago

yeah…this ain’t it, fangraphs.

cancelling my membership.

were there no qualified women, persons of color, or at the very, very least just someone who wasn’t involved in a cheating scandal for an MLB team?

lavarnway
5 years ago
Reply to  slane35

Proud of you for taking this courageous stance slane.

Domingo AyalaMember since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  slane35

I can’t tell if this is sarcastic.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  slane35

Not seeing how you can know who was interviewed and who wasn’t.

slane35
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

ah, yes surely he is the only writer that wants to work at fangraphs.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  slane35

Because every applicant was as interesting, credentialed, and qualified as Kevin. /eyeroll.

Find a better argument.

cplayo
5 years ago

Need a JRPG update

steubyMember since 2018
5 years ago

Welcome! Excited to see what new perspectives you’ll bring to the site!

schwejk
5 years ago

Now the baseball execs have their steroids. Did he cheat? Did he cheat before or after the Astros scandal? Did he cheat when it was legal or not prohibited?

TexasForever87
5 years ago

Glad to have you back! Thanks for helping build my hometown team into a machine, but also thanks for your honesty here. Looking forward to having you in the land of the living once again.

schlotty
5 years ago

Hawks can be jerks, man.

Broken BatMember since 2020
5 years ago

Looking forward to reading your insights and creating questions and providing information. Nice hire David!

mlsgrad99Member since 2018
5 years ago

Glad to see you back!

Vegas Baby
5 years ago

Welcome. What is your position on whether BLM is a pure movement, or whether it is a tool for socialists to marginalize their opposition?

teenarcher
5 years ago
Reply to  Vegas Baby

damn, real politics hours right here

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Vegas Baby

I have no trouble with an honest accounting here, that separates the lies from the truths.

mightyflynnMember since 2020
5 years ago

Great news. Looking forward to reading you here and on twitter. I might even subscribe to the new podcast.

PhilipMember since 2016
5 years ago

What a treat– to be able to read Kevin Goldstein again. Thanks for your explanation of your non-role in the Astros scandal. One question– when Effectively Wild ended, you were trying to figure out what was happening with your neighbors leaving mattresses outside to be picked up but never seeing any delivered. I have pondered that for eight long years. Did you ever answer that question?

timMember since 2017
5 years ago

I have to say this is outstanding news for FanGraphs and its members. This type of insight and contributions will be a great addition to the perspective and content of the site.

Eric MartellMember since 2026
5 years ago

Welcome back, Kevin! Your move in 2012 was a loss to us baseball fans who enjoyed your content, but of course you took that job – I think most anyone would have. Sorry that things ended ignominously, but I’m glad you’re back.

rrtim
5 years ago

There sure is a lot of deflecting and virtue-signaling in this article.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  rrtim

Virtue signaling is only a problem if it is intending to mask further evil.

Vegas Baby
5 years ago

Baseball is better off without conservative fans.

America is better off without conservatives.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  Vegas Baby

The trouble with this statement is that “conservatives” don’t really exist anymore. Fascist country-destroying terrorists have co-opted the word. Not that conservatism makes any sense, but it’s at least a less-vile position.

Jason BMember since 2017
5 years ago
Reply to  Vegas Baby

Maybe…sit a few plays out, Champ.

O'KieboomerMember since 2021
5 years ago

“One thing in specific we are looking for is picking up signs coming out of the dugout. What we are looking for is how much we can see, how we would log things, if we need cameras/binoculars, etc. So go to game, see what you can (or can’t) do and report back your findings.”

“It was just an idea, sent by someone new to the advance world who was a bit green in that area, and who didn’t think that trying to better pick up signals was even a problem. I later found out that, at the time, it was a gray area, which in and of itself is a bit embarrassing.”

New…green…in your 5th year with the team, suggesting exactly the sort of sign stealing (picking up signs, how we would ‘log things’) that the org is now infamous for? Come on. There is way too much mealymouthed excuses here. You’re diving back into the blogosphere, you had to know you’d face justified criticism for your role in the most infamous cheating scandal in recent memory, and this is what you come up with? I’d almost rather the McGwire approach you feel you’re above, and all this to say nothing of your moralizing about Osuna and the White House; as another commenter put it, that should be the bare minimum. I’m sure you have some interesting stories and front office insight to bring to FG, but boy oh boy I hope your future pieces are more convincing and well-argued than this.

evo34Member since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  O'Kieboomer

The lack of respect he is showing his readers is laughable.

The only reason he wasn’t punished by MLB is that they had bigger fish to fry — and were more concerned with public image than actual punishment.

7thnovember
5 years ago

Welcome back!

“as well as being one of two members (updated) of the front office to turn down the invitation to the White House in 2018. ”

And we now know where you stand politically! Of course, I rather know whether Amed Rosario will ever live up to his pedigree?

miltonfriedman
5 years ago

Wow. Turned down an invitation to the white house? You are such a great person! If only Trump started some wars or droned some more innocent brown people, you would have gone! Awesome

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago
Reply to  miltonfriedman

Does starting a domestic war count?

Daniel MorrisMember since 2020
5 years ago

Hooray! This is awesome news. Welcome “back,” Kevin — you were always one of the most exciting voices in the community, as well as
one of the most accessible to a wider readership. Looking forward to your contributions here.

BigdeeswanMember since 2021
5 years ago

Thrilled to have you back writing and podcasting Kevin. I have missed your contributions over the last 8 years and I am looking forward to it again. Welcome back!

bawfuls
5 years ago

WTF is this shit Meg? We are supposed to take this guy at his word on this, really??

“One thing in specific we are looking for is picking up signs coming out of the dugout. What we are looking for is how much we can see, how we would log things, if we need cameras/binoculars, etc. So go to game, see what you can (or can’t) do and report back your findings.”

evo34Member since 2023
5 years ago
Reply to  bawfuls

At bare minimum, he should have to explain exactly what he was doing in that email.

Saying “I had nothing to do with it” while pretending the email doesn’t matter is not sufficient.

MikeD
5 years ago

Great to see you back on the public side. I appreciate your transparency. It must be difficult knowing you did great work in Houston, but that there’s an element of the fanbase who will still be angry. They have a right to be, but that doesn’t take away from the work you did. I say that as a Yankee fan. Looking forward to your articles here on Fangraphs and the return of your podcast…or some form of a podcast! Congrats on the new gig.

circelli17Member since 2020
5 years ago

Welcome back Sarge!

tesseract19
5 years ago

Welcome back Kevin. I remember you talking about the .9ers in your podcast and while I can’t say I was one of them I did listen to a few episodes near the end

Ashburn Alley
5 years ago

I guess we now who will replace Eric when he leaves next off season.

fornerMember since 2020
5 years ago

This is fantastic! Way to go Fangraphs!

James Pigg
5 years ago

I’m really glad to have you back in our world. Welcome and another win for Fangraphs.

fredsbankMember since 2020
5 years ago

Man, this is like Jordan coming back to the NBA. Looking forward to reading your new stuff Kevin! Glad you’re back on public.

CrapshootMember since 2016
5 years ago

Kevin! Does this mean weird baseball and ice-cream at midnight are BACK?

Brent MaguireMember since 2020
5 years ago

Welcome, Kevin! I’m super excited to hear your thoughts on the sport again, especially after your experiences working within the sport. What a phenomenal addition to the site.

MikeD
5 years ago
Reply to  Brent Maguire

Agreed. Fangraphs has done an excellent job over the years of replacing talent when they leave with more excellent talent, some very known like Jay and Kevin, and others less so. The quality remains high. I even ordered a mug. : -)

SeattleiteMember since 2020
5 years ago

I feel like the primary topic that we need to discuss is which Mexican beer holds its chill the best. I’ve been waiting eight years to pick this back up…

saltMember since 2020
5 years ago
Reply to  Seattleite

Been following you since the prospect newsletter days. Good to see you landed here. I’ve always enjoyed your work and look forward to reading and listening to what you have to say.

E-Dub
5 years ago

Welcome back, KG. I’m enjoying the predictable “shut up and prospect” reaction to your comments.

Now about that 2012 Top 101 Xander Bogaerts rating… (sorry, couldn’t resist).

MattMember since 2020
5 years ago

If you’re not going to bring the old podcast back can you at least commit to not bringing back that lousy music you used to play as well?

RobM
5 years ago

Fantastic. I’m always looking for additional bands. I may not like them all, but I remember discovering a few by your recommendations.

Jason BMember since 2017
5 years ago

Somewhere the Little River Band starts tuning up, just in case…

Vegas Baby
5 years ago

We have a senile, cadaverous, chalky-white communist in the White House. Not much matters now. But baseball could still be fun.

Benjamin Ray
5 years ago

Great news. You’ve been missed KG.

David Anderson
5 years ago

Welcome Kevin

Redneck Redbird
5 years ago

Looking forward to your work.

BeefLoafMember since 2019
5 years ago

WOW!! Wasn’t expecting to see this today

atomicdogMember since 2025
5 years ago

Big time!

rhd
5 years ago

Welcome back, Kevin. I remember the old podcast at BP w Jason Parks and always looked forward to it. I’ll be interested in what your new podcast will be like.

sterling62Member since 2020
5 years ago

Welcome back and look forward to your insights and perspectives. It will be fascinating to learn more about the true front office approaches and how different the fan/reporter perceptions are.

catcrazy247Member since 2016
5 years ago

Welcome back to the public side! Excited to hear more from you!

Devlsh
5 years ago

I’m a Centrist, and I have zero interest in hearing political opinions from either side on this website, and that’s especially true from the writers. If they want to tout their opinions, do it in an appropriate venue. People come HERE to learn and talk about baseball. If the subject of labor agreements bleed into politics, so be it but patting yourself on the back because you took a political stand doesn’t interest me. I’m happy to engage in political discussions elsewhere – and think it healthy and worthwhile to do so; there’s too much echo chambering – and enjoy goring the oxen of both sides, but, again, that’s not why I’m here and have zero interest in your political viewpoints.

RobM
5 years ago
Reply to  Devlsh

I’m fine with politics where it intersects with the interests of baseball and the specific news story or event. What I have found over the years is many sports writers fall back on the trope that politics impacts everything, so therefore they interject politics that has nothing to do with the story. It would be similar to sitting down with friends, or in a meeting at work, and every time a person would be bring up politics because politics impacts everything. Those people become former friends or former employees. It’s not a question of “stick to sports.” It’s a question of knowing where certain news and information fits.

That aside, I fully defend Fangraphs, or any news site in providing the content they want. If that means a leftist sports site, super. Let us know up front and the members get to make a decision. I’ve never had any issues here.

TKDCMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  Devlsh

Your post is dripping with your own politics. Seems counter to your statement.

Jesse
5 years ago

8 years of MLB experience… ill take it! welcome back!

Greg SimonsMember since 2016
5 years ago

Kevin, I’m very happy FanGraphs stepped UP AND brought you IN to provide your particular baseball insights. #want

Coach AARPMember since 2019
5 years ago

Welcome back Kevin- you were missed. Definitely looking forward to your unique insights, especially in conjunction with Eric and prospects in general.

Brian SMember since 2018
5 years ago

Welcome back to the internet Sarge!

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago

Moral of this comments section: we are a spectacularly ill-informed society.

Ukranian to Vietnamese to French is back
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

Moral of the comments section: if you don’t take my opinion as fact, you’re an idiot.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago

Put that back through Google and get back to me.

It’s sad that you’ve chosen to sheeple & groupthink along with so many others here.

sportsfreak2744
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

You accuse someone of groupthink immediately after telling them to google something……

fuzwozMember since 2018
5 years ago

Bravo, David Appleman

evo34Member since 2023
5 years ago

“Hi, I’m Kevin. I was caught trying to make illicit videos to train our staff how to steal signs. Thankfully, I was totally unaware that the team was interested in stealing signs, as evidenced by the fact that I hate Trump.”

RobM
5 years ago

Hello back.

I have two reactions: 1) This is great news; 2) OMG Has it really been 8 years?!!

ianmSC
5 years ago

I’m excited to read more about the inner workings of a baseball front office and also very excited to have another liberal sportswriter back on the internet. There really aren’t enough left wing sportswriters out there, really excited that we finally have another one to go with every single other sportswriter out there, to make sure that we only hear one political opinion whenever they choose to grace us with their ideology.

JasonParksIsKoreanMember since 2018
5 years ago

Kevin,

Sounds like you are in a good space. It is great to have you back and look forward to your contributions. As a fellow baseball nerd I found community in your podcast with Parks, so much so that my username is based on a joke I shared with him on one of the in-game baseball prospectus experiences at Safeco in Seattle (I honestly thought that based on his last name Jason Parks was a Korean dude from Texas crushing the jokes and baseball, being half-Asian myself that meant a lot and so when I met him person I was super confused how a guy named Parks was a white dude so we laughed about it and then drank nearly an IPA per inning watching future superstar Jurikson Profar play the M’s on King Felix night. Also Jack Z gave a super weird track suited up “press conference” before the game – everyone that worked for him seemed very afraid of pissing him off or even looking directly at him.). Anyway, welcome home, hope you are well and Jason too. Don’t doubt yourself and your voice here – you don’t owe us anything and we are grateful to share space with you once again. This will be fun!

Take care,
Bryan
PS – sorry if my name offends anyone. Happy to change it. My mom is from Japan and I’m half-Japanese, raised in Hawaii. That doesn’t give me a right to offend anyone, but might explain why I was excited to meet a Korean dude from Texas that was hilarious and loved baseball, beer and bbq.

wildcat98
5 years ago

Thank goodness you let us know how woke you are at the beginning of your article. I was worried you were going to talk about baseball before letting us know.

Squid_MantleMember since 2020
5 years ago

I’ll be looking forward to reading your work!

Strong_BelwasMember since 2025
5 years ago

Astros were known for making poor trade offers. Can you shed some light on this?

Trade negotiations in general- would you ask for the player you want outright? Or circle back to them later to disguise your interest?

Did the success of Gerritt Cole put a damper on acquiring players thereafter? Other FO’s were largely suspicious of why you wanted someone?

Excited to read your stuff!!!

BranchRickey11937Member since 2016
5 years ago

Well heck, it’s Kevin Goldstein! I was one of the earliest paid subscribers to BP but I migrated to Fan Graphs probably not long after you left. Welcome to FG, you will be a great addition.

drbn8rMember since 2016
5 years ago

I think the guy who writes for BP is named Craig Goldstein.

drbn8rMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  drbn8r

Oops! Just checked article again. Kevin did indeed write for BP. The current Goldstein writing for BP is named Craig, however. No idea if they are related.

NicholasMember since 2016
5 years ago

Welcome back Kevin, looking forward to the podcast especially!

jason shureMember since 2017
5 years ago

The oldest “Kevin Goldstein” mention in my gmail is the Baseball America prospect report from May 24, 2005. In that report Adam Laroche was tattooing the FSL like almost nobody has ever done. It also contains plenty of baseball names – Milledge, Plouffe, Elijah Dukes – plus Delmon Young taking Chad Billingsley deep twice, and of course a gem from King Felix. I recall corresponding before that, but from an older less-accessible email address. Its a whole life lived with baseball, and its nice to see you at Fangraphs.

Yolmer
5 years ago

General Kenobi!

aldenMember since 2019
5 years ago

welcome kevin! I’m looking forward to reading what you write!!!!

deep64blue
5 years ago

Welcome back!!

ED44Member since 2017
5 years ago

Glad you’re “back”!

gokies
5 years ago

general kenobi

strosfanMember since 2016
5 years ago

Welcome, and I look forward to all you work at Fangraphs. I also would like to take this opportunity to thank for your time and valuable contributions to the Astros . Good luck and can’t wait to read and listen to you.

rigordonMember since 2016
5 years ago

It is great to have you back in the world where we can enjoy your insight and perspective, Kevin. I previously followed your prospect evaluations with great success and look forward to doing it again here at FG!

michiganandtrumbellMember since 2020
5 years ago

I look forward to reading your BASEBALL articles. There was zero need for you to slip in how virtuous you think you are by turning down a team invite to the White House. Why, why do you feel the need to let all of us know that you don’t like President Trump? I understand that this site is predominantly run by very left-wing people, it’s very obvious in Meg’s chats in particular. I’m sure your editors agree with your liberal political opinions but they shouldn’t have let their joy of your Trump -bashing override their duties as an editors. Lots of us come here because of our love for baseball, the excellent content, and the chance to get away from the rest of the world where we are force-fed political noise constantly! Welcome back and I look forward to reading your articles considering your considerable insights into BASEBALL! Good luck.

drewsylvaniaMember since 2019
5 years ago

I guess we *should* stick to baseball here. It’s clear not many people can handle the truth when it comes to politics. Or reading comprehension, apparently.

sportsfreak2744
5 years ago
Reply to  drewsylvania

There isn’t much truth in politics. In fact I’d say that anyone as sure of their opinions as you is the most likely to be wrong.

msnyderMember since 2026
5 years ago

Welcome back to the internet!
Do you still play your Nintendo DS or have you moved to the Nintendo Switch?

Matthew MartinMember since 2016
5 years ago

I did not read all of the comments below, just enough to realize that your hire has generated one heckuva lot of controversy. I can only be responsible for myself. For me, I have done many things I regret doing, most of them as a fully developed and rational (at times) adult. I appreciate the fact you “read the room” and discussed the elephant in the room. Welcome aboard, and thank you to Meg Rowley and David Appleman for bringing you into the fold. I love FanGraphs.

Mark NeuenschwanderMember since 2017
5 years ago

Looking forward to Dekalb mattress updates and the Kickety-Flip/Flippity-Kick guest spots on the pod.

Welcome back from beyond the “paywall”, so to speak!