How Long Can the Remaining Free Agents Wait Before Things Get Weird?

Stephen Brashear-USA TODAY Sports

It feels like March comes earlier every year. Certainly Jordan Montgomery and Blake Snell must feel that way, seeing as how they’re sitting around unemployed while college basketball tournaments are already underway. All of a sudden, starting rotation spots are harder to come by than tenure-track professorships in the humanities. And they’re not the only ones. Michael Lorenzen is also sitting around getting way too good at playing along with The Price is Right. He might not have been at the head of the free agent class, but by God he was an All-Star and threw a no-hitter just last year!

All of these guys will find work somewhere, somehow, and at some vast salary figure. Probably not nine years and $270 million, but it’ll be a lot of money.

This free agent saga has gone on for so long that there really isn’t much more to say about players who had been picked apart and analyzed exhaustively by the Winter Meetings last December, and have remained on the vine for another three months since. Except this: Are they at risk of becoming overripe?

This year, most major league players were due in camp on or around Valentine’s Day. Grapefruit and Cactus League play started about two weeks later, with the regular season another four weeks after that. (Except for the Dodgers and Padres, who’ll get underway in Korea a week earlier.) Call it six weeks of training camp to get from offseason hibernation to game shape.

Now, Montgomery, Snell, and Lorenzen will all be working out on their own in the meantime. (Certainly Lorenzen, who has never skipped arm day in his life.) All three have access to top-end private training centers and coaching that can prepare them to jump into spring training midstream. But in terms of familiarizing themselves with new teammates, new facilities, new coaches — to say nothing of the preparation that can only be done against live opposition — it’s fair to wonder if missing at least half of the preseason will have a deleterious effect on these players.

It got me thinking about the 2018 preseason, when Lance Lynn found himself in a similar situation. (Admittedly, I’m usually thinking about Lance Lynn.) He got frozen out of the free agent market and took a one-year deal with the Twins in mid-March. Lynn made his first start 21 days after putting pen to paper and had a horrible first half, and his worst full season for four years in either direction.

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I asked Lynn about that spring a couple of years ago, and he said his forgettable run in Minnesota was the result of other factors than the truncated ramp-up. Besides, we’ve had two of the past five preseasons reduced by a pandemic and a lockout; that proves it’s possible to get ready for a season in less than six weeks.

Moreover, free agent pitchers sign this late all the time. Between minor league roster churn and late injury replacements, it’s not unusual for teams to keep bringing in new arms after the season starts.

But that’s not the position Montgomery, Snell, and Lorenzen are in. These are established big league starters — good ones — who sought multi-year contracts worth eight figures a year. The players who arrive at camp this late are usually marginal, not stars. How common is it for a pitcher like these three to be in this position? And is it common enough that we can draw conclusions from that precedent?

Since the 2020-21 offseason, the RosterResource archives have 123 instances of starting pitchers signing major league free agent contracts. Only 17 of those signings came after March 1, and of those 17, 11 came in March of 2022. That’s the post-lockout signing spree, which isn’t useful for the purposes of comparison because nobody was in spring training at that point. Of the other six, three were instances of a player starting camp with one team, getting released, then signing with another. Then there was Cole Hamels’ last-gasp comeback attempt with the Dodgers in August 2021.

So the most recent starting pitchers to sign this late without some kind of mitigating circumstance were Trevor Cahill and Jake Odorizzi in 2021. The 2019-20 offseason saw numerous pitcher signings, but thanks to COVID, everyone was forced into a truncated spring training ramp-up. You have to go back into the Dark Ages, the capital strike days of the late 2010s, to find a time when this sort of thing was common. And even then, what we’re seeing now has only really happened once in the past decade.

From 2014 to 2023, there were nine free agent starting pitchers (including Cahill, who did it twice) who met the following conditions: They signed major league contracts after March 1, having not been in a different team’s training camp before, and without experiencing either a COVID- or lockout-related timing crunch. That’s a lot of qualifiers, but it’s necessary in order to cut out all the chaff. Here’s the list:

Late-Signing Starters, 2014-23
Player Team Age Date Year Debut GS IP ERA WAR
Trevor Cahill PIT 33 March 11 2021 April 6 8 37 6.57 0.5
Jake Odorizzi HOU 31 March 6 2021 April 13 23 104 2/3 4.21 1.1
Clay Buchholz TOR 34 March 5 2019 April 13 12 59 6.56 0.1
Alex Cobb BAL 30 March 21 2018 April 14 28 152 1/3 4.90 1.5
Trevor Cahill OAK 30 March 19 2018 April 17 20 110 3.76 2.0
Jake Arrieta PHI 32 March 12 2018 April 8 31 172 2/3 3.96 2.0
Lance Lynn MIN 31 March 12 2018 April 2 29 156 2/3 4.77 2.8
Chris Young KCR 36 March 7 2015 April 12 18 123 1/2 3.06 1.0
Joe Saunders TEX 33 March 5 2014 April 4* 8 43 6.70 -0.7
Ervin Santana ATL 31 March 12 2014 April 9 31 196 3.95 3.2
*Didn’t pitch again until May 28

Some pitchers made a habit of signing this late. In addition to Cahill, both Buchholz and Young have signed minor league contracts with non-roster invites in March. But for the most part, this isn’t the ideal scenario.

Nevertheless, the cases must be winnowed a little further before a useful set of case studies emerges. Buchholz and Saunders were washed by this point in their careers. So was Cahill in 2021. Montgomery and Snell are 31; Lorenzen is 32. I’d be astonished if any of them were that level of cooked by 2024, though it wouldn’t shock me if Lorenzen signed the last multi-year contract of his career, as Odorizzi and Arrieta did.

But if you take out the guys who were awful — and probably would’ve been so no matter when they signed — every other pitcher on the list was working in the majors by April 17 and threw at least 100 innings overall. All of them except for Young made at least 20 starts. And that’s not due to any failing on Young’s part; in addition to his 18 starts, he made 16 relief appearances in the regular season, and at no point did he have an ERA over 4.00. Young went on to start two playoff games and win Game 1 of the World Series: a successful campaign by any standard.

The closest thing to Snell in this group is probably Santana, who got tagged with a qualifying offer after a successful 2013 campaign with the Royals. He signed a one-year contract with the Braves on March 12, hit the ground running, threw almost 200 excellent innings, and parlayed that into a four-year, $54 million contract with Minnesota the following winter.

Arrieta also had no ill effects from the late spring training start; the Phillies didn’t run up his pitch count early in the season, but after his first 10 starts, he had a 2.16 ERA. The 2018 version of Cahill seemed fine as well. It took him until April 17 to make his first start, but in it he threw 92 pitches over seven scoreless innings. He had to miss a start in May with an elbow impingement and five weeks later in the spring with an Achilles injury. But at the time of the latter injury, he was averaging six innings a start and had an ERA of 2.77.

So out of this final group of seven pitchers, four came out of the gate unaffected. The others… less so:

Woof
Pitcher Year Starts IP BB SO ERA Regular Service Resumes
Jake Odorizzi 2021 5 16 1/3 7 17 7.16 June 9
Alex Cobb 2018 8 39 1/3 9 22 7.32 May 28
Lance Lynn 2018 8 37 1/3 29 41 7.47 May 22

Odorizzi got wrecked early in his Astros career, and went on the IL with a muscle strain in his arm in late April. Cobb and Lynn mostly righted themselves by the end of May, but neither was really back to their old selves until their next full season. Which for Cobb, who injured basically every part of his body from his thighs to his neck in 2019, meant he wasn’t fully right until 2020 or 2021. How much of that is the result of signing late in 2018? Tough to say for sure, but probably not a lot.

So basically it’s a coin flip whether Snell, Montgomery, or Lorenzen will start the season pitching like their old selves. Certainly interested GMs, not wanting to pay a penny more for these pitchers than they absolutely have to, are going to start presenting that argument to Scott Boras and CAA, respectively, in negotiations. If they haven’t already.

Fair or not, that would presumably only increase the gap between what these players feel they’re worth and what they can actually command on the open market. Wonderful. That’ll definitely make things easier and less contentious.





Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.

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steveo
2 years ago

It’s already weird? Unless Snell and Montgomery have already built themselves up some, they won’t be able to throw 100 pitches by the time opening day rolls around. Blake Snell really should’ve taken that 6/160 or whatever it was from the Yankees. Does he even get 100M at this point? I doubt it. Really rough.

Also: we really see the effects of the luxury tax here. If the tax didn’t exist, I’m sure the Yankees, Phillies, etc would be more involved. But the Yankees would have to pay 110% tax to sign anyone at this level. Is Blake Snell worth 70M? Eh probably not.

Last edited 2 years ago by steveo
SyndergaardengnomesMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Do we know for certain that the Yankees even made that offer?

Could be Boras throwing it out there, considering there’s at least two other teams in the AL East who have the resources, and need for another starting pitcher…

Richie
2 years ago

Yup, agents do that sort of thing all the time. Especially Boras, who plays the press like a Stradivarius. (the press generally makes out in the game too)

bglick4
2 years ago

No sir! That would be dishonest. He’d never do such a thing.

Ashburn Alley
2 years ago
Reply to  bglick4

Boras is no more at fault for this than every GM in baseball but for some reason people get off on knocking an agent for doing his job.

RoyalsFan#14321Member since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Ashburn Alley

To be fair, we’re knocking Boras because we’re curious about whether or not that $160M was ever real – it makes some difference going forward how Snell should approach his free agency. In my opinion.

Old Washington Senators FanMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Problem – teams with low payroll and teams that are bad with low payroll don’t want to take the risk of a multi-year FA pitcher contract and the players, even if they get an offer from say, the Pirates, Nationals, Rockies, etc., don’t want to go there and lose a lot and miss the playoffs.

Catch-22. If I were a contender with payroll room (Orioles, Red Sox – contenders if you squint, Twins), I’d offer these guys a sweet 1-year deal. They may not be ready at the start, but, if handled correctly, will be fresh and healthy for the post-season.

I’ll bet all 3 of these guys sign by St. Patrick’s Day….

SculpinMember since 2025
2 years ago

Well put. And when you consider that each WEEK has declining value for a guy like Snell as you get deeper in his career, would the Yankees be wrong to rescind and re-offer every week at $2M less?

Barney Coolio
2 years ago
Reply to  Sculpin

No, the Yankees would not be wrong to do that.

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  Sculpin

$2M a week! In a couple years he’d be paying them to pitch! 😀

chuck e
2 years ago

You have to wonder how the demise of Bally et al is impacting all of this. Until teams have some sort of revenue stability it is going to be hard to justify these monster contracts if you are not LA/NY etc. Maybe this is just a bad year to be a Boras guy.

steveo
2 years ago
Reply to  chuck e

I think it’s more the new playoff format and the luxury tax. I don’t think Bally is *great* but these teams are still making a ton of money. I mean SDP, TEX, STL, TOR, SFG, CHC etc are all well into the 200M payroll range. There’s just little incentive of being a good team anymore. Just be mediocre and hope it takes you far. I mean look at the Diamondbacks. They were mediocre all year and made it to the World Series. This is just *another* example of players not realizing the impact of a new CBA until it’s too late. Then they’re pissed in the next CBA negotiations because they got rinsed last time.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  steveo

I’m a little unsure that the new playoff format should make teams less likely to want to sign free agents. When an extra team makes the playoffs, that could just as easily put more teams on the bubble where adding a few wins will increase their odds a lot, setting themselves up for a lucky playoff run.

The current projected standings have kind of a scrum for the sixth spot in both leagues. In the AL, the Orioles are projected to win 83.7, the Jays 83.4, and the Rangers 81.7–seems like those teams could boost their odds a lot by signing good free agents, but they just haven’t. The NL is much closer, with the Cubs, Giants, and Padres all within 0.6 wins (and three more teams within 2.0); and two of those three teams have spent in FA. If they were trying to catch the Diamondbacks instead of each other, maybe they would’ve had less incentive to spend.

youppi4pm
2 years ago

If there were only one season of baseball remaining, then yes, more teams would be more “all-in”.

But we play a new season every year. And mediocrity + variance + time leads to playoff appearances without having to spend.

Mitchell MooreMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  steveo

You really ought to refresh your research. None of SDP, STL, SFG, or CHC are running anything near a $200m payroll in 2024. Indeed, SDP slashed $104m from their 2023 payroll, down to $144.9m for 2024.
Seven teams will run a $200m+ payroll in 2024; nine will run payrolls of less than $100m.

steveo
2 years ago
Reply to  Mitchell Moore

I’m looking at luxury tax payrolls (which is what really matters). Obviously if you take out benefits (~20M alone), dead money, backloaded contracts, etc, the money is different but teams care more about the luxury tax than real money. Here’s the link:

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/breakdowns/payroll

Last edited 2 years ago by steveo
Mitchell MooreMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  steveo

Appreciate the correction and clarification.

Richie
2 years ago
Reply to  Mitchell Moore

But that would hurt rather than help his argument. Yeesh, Mitchell …

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  Richie

Yeesh, Mitchell

That’s what the MST3K guys said that one time. It was simultaneously Joe Don Baker’s finest and worst performance

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  chuck e

Bally isn’t the full story on the TV money uncertainty in the out years.
Like, ESPN, FOX, and WBD are combining their sports operations, reducing from 3 to 1 their bids for games. Less bidders, less money? Counting on streamers like Prime and Apple to step in is no certainty.
Non-Bally teams are secure in their contracts for now but moving forward as cable subs keep on going down? Bally may not be the last RSN to cut ties…

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
2 years ago
Reply to  chuck e

Yes, there’s a big-picture argument to be made here about the economics of the sport. But also, a lot of years are a bad year for one or two of Boras’s clients. I don’t know what the average numbers look like — it might still be rational to choose him as an agent and just take the chance — but his style of maximum brinksmanship very often ends up going over the edge and hurting one or two clients even if it helps the others extract the maximum benefit. I wouldn’t want to put so much of my career earnings into this kind of high-volatility investment, but then I’m not a pro athlete in a lot of ways, both behaviorally and otherwise.

EltnegMember since 2020
2 years ago

Boras’ FA clients are all massive outliers who have seen themselves succeed where their peers have failed their whole lives. Also, this FA contract will represent the vast majority of their career earnings.

Taken together, those two facts make it pretty easy for me to understand why Boras’ clients are open to his aggressive tactics. Easy for you or me to say we’d prefer the lower-risk play, but we aren’t world-class at our chosen professions and have decades of earning potential ahead of us.

Thatguy47
2 years ago
Reply to  chuck e

Pretty sure the Bally stuff’s a red herring. Ownership likely knew about this stuff in advance but still spent last offseason, for instance, on longterm contracts.

Bigger issue is that most teams willing to spend are already maxed out on payroll and there just isn’t any available money. Getting good FA contracts significantly depends on hitting the market when Philly/Mets/Dodgers/etc are looking to spend.

Lou BrownMember since 2017
2 years ago

The fact that 2 very good pitchers are still unsigned with opening day around the corner couldn’t be more indicative of MLB sucking right now. Baseball at the professional level is no longer a sport to be enjoyed. Nobody is even trying to win any more. When games are being treated like events or experiences, with the actual baseball being played as secondary or tertiary importance, then the people paying $100 a seat can’t be taken seriously, just like the organizations who aren’t even interested in fielding a competitive product. My favorite team has $58M remaining under the competitive balance tax. They could certainly use more pitching, and their outlook for 2024 would change significantly if they would sign one or both players. But they won’t.

Last edited 2 years ago by Lou Brown
Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  Lou Brown

You do know that most teams can’t afford to spend right up to just under the lowest CBT tier, don’t you?

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

Certainly not in the spring.
Stuff happens and unless they’re rebuilding they need cap room for contingencies.

Lou BrownMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

Of course the Red Sox can spend up to the CBT Tier but they aren’t even pretending to be trying to win. The economics of the sport make it so every big market team can easily spend more than they do but what’s the incentive?

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  Lou Brown

That’s a good thing and the very point of the CBT. The biggest markets shouldn’t be constantly spending over the soft cap, BECAUSE the middle and small markets can never afford to spend that much in the first place.

Although, this would be one of those years when the Red Sox would be better off spending into CBT territory with all the holes they have on their team in a very competitive division.

Anyway, those two pitchers are still on the market mostly because they overpriced themselves, not because too many teams aren’t spending enough.

Last edited 2 years ago by Lanidrac
markakis21
2 years ago
Reply to  Lou Brown

OK Zoomer

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
2 years ago

What caught my eye was Trevor Cahill’s 2021 line. If 37 innings with a 6.57 ERA is still able to earn a positive 0.5 WAR then just what constitutes a less than replacement level performance. From these numbers it looks like I might be able to have a positive WAR even at 82 as long as my pitches were able to reach the plate on the fly.

MikeMember since 2018
2 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

This was a wild ride

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

Sorry for the double post. Since my brain is still in working order I won’t use the I am 82 excuse.

Roger McDowell Hot Foot
2 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

I mean sure, if you really want, we could get into a long sidebar argument about defense-independent pitching stats, but why here? Why now? We can all just go over to B-Ref and see that his bWAR for those same 37 innings was -0.5 and say “hmm” on our own.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
2 years ago

I just went to Cahill’s 2021 Game Log and his start on 4/17 jumped off the page. The line is 4/8/7/6/1/5 and his ERA jumped from 8.00 to 9.69. However despite this desultory performance his FIP dropped from 4.06 to 3.25. That looks beyond bizarre and into some etherial world that I have never visited. Was every hit a play that should have been made with normal defense? That stretches the imagination. Again I ask where do these numbers come from

formerly matt wMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

I just watched all the hits in the four-run first inning and they kinda were a bunch of hard-luck hits. Not a single ball was hit even close to the warning track, the first two singles were off broken bats (infield hit against the shift and a dying quail), a couple grounders that maybe should’ve been caught including one past the extremely immobile Colin Moran. Then the next inning, a ground ball triple hit at 95 past a diving or anyway falling Moran, an actual fly ball to the base of the wall! and a sac fly on another broken bat that the outfielder had to come in for.

Generally the idea behind fielding-independent pitching is that the stats average out in the long run, and there was no long run for Cahill that year, he got hurt. I don’t really believe the FIP numbers that much myself. But I did notice that the entire time Cahill was healthy, Ke’Bryan Hayes was hurt, which is bad news for a ground-ball pitcher.

formerly matt wMember since 2025
2 years ago

Also I am a Pirates fan, that was only three years ago, and if you had given me a Sporcle quiz to name the players who played that day I would’ve got maybe half of them. Cahill and Erik Gonzalez and Philip Evans I remember, but Anthony Alford? Dustin Fowler? Sean Poppen? These guys were on the Bucs?

Lanidrac
2 years ago

Except that the stats don’t average out in the long run. FIP is only useful as a predictor, not as an analyzer, and it’s why fWAR for pitchers is even worse than bWAR for pitchers (which is also pretty lousy).

Last edited 2 years ago by Lanidrac
bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
2 years ago

It is going to be more and more difficult for pitchers to get long multi-year contracts as long as many of these arms keep falling off, some even before they pitch in a regular season game for their new team. Fool me once blame you, fool me twice blame me, and while I continue to be amazed at the thought process of many major league GFM’s eventually even they reach the realization that 7 years for 245M might not be the best use of resources.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

Not just pitchers.
Non-generational talent position players over 30 are going to be faced with more 3 year and way less 5 year+ deals.
Very likely more Chapman deals moving forward now that front loaded short deals are getting formalized.

Lanidrac
2 years ago

While they aren’t directly comparable, I think it would benefit the article to also include relief pitchers such as Greg Holland in 2018.

TKDCMember since 2016
2 years ago

Considering how smart so many front offices are, maybe there is a bit of correlation between guys that miscalculate their value and guys that don’t do all that well? Is it the lack of a full spring training that makes these pitchers worse, or are these guys who a lot of teams see one reason or another to stay away from them, and often the teams are right about these analyses?

diamonddores
2 years ago

I enjoy following NBA free agency so much more than MLB free agency

seems genuinely terrible for the league that the reigning NL Cy Young winner is just chilling here in early March

Rollie's MustacheMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  diamonddores

Kike Hernandez’s comments about collusion seem more and more prescient the longer these pitchers remain unsigned.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  diamonddores

That’s mostly his own fault. Do you want to tell Snell he should’ve dropped his demands to a reasonable level or even lower back in early February.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

FA is about *negotiation*. Not about giving the player whatever they think they’re entitled to.
It takes two to tango.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  fjtorres

Yeah, and some teams have probably tried to negotiate with them, but as far as we know, Snell and Montgomery have refused to negotiate enough from their initial demands up to this point.

fjtorres
2 years ago
Reply to  Lanidrac

That’s part of the Boras bag of tricks.
Some players float a high number to get the dickering going. Boras typically digs in to try to get the team to bid against itself. It often works…
…but not always.

Sometimes, the player profile + expectations doesn’t match the market.

All players come with caveats and risks, even the Ohtanis and Sotos of the world. The question is how much risk the teams are willing to take on and that risk is proportional to the money ask. Different teams weigh risk/reward differently and often it even varies by time, which is why pillow contracts work; a player too risky one year might be a no-brainer the next.

This year came with a range of black swans (Ohtani, Yamamoto, Bally, etc) that took out a bunch of potential landing spots for Boras boys. Chapman and Bellinger adjusted. Montgomery and Snell are facing similar choices.

John WickMember since 2018
2 years ago

I’m most curious what they’re waiting for. I’ve never done this and Scott has, just a keyboard warrior here, but it doesn’t seem all that likely that teams are going to shift off of their valuations based on injuries or spring training performances at this point. And you’d think any owner engagement would have happened by now. Kinda feels like they likely have their best offers in hand already.

Case in point: the Red Sox just lost a starter for the year. Are they upping their Montgomery offer or deciding to bid on Snell? Who knows, but my guess is no.

OneearMember since 2018
2 years ago

It usually takes Snell a few months to get his act together on the mound. If I were him i’d be worried about the effect of holding out would have on his performance. But If I were him I’d be 35 years younger and a lot richer, and probably wouldn’t give a f**k

Mike NMN
2 years ago

There have already been some signings that were substantially below the predictions, so there’s every reason to suspect we will see more of them, More teams are looking for reasons not to spend. ind the CBT has a real drag

JohnnyRingoFWC
2 years ago

Teams are more than willing to spend.

If they feel if it’s a good deal.

If not, they don’t have to sign anyone they don’t wish to.

I like that the owners are standing up to paying so heavily for past performance. It’s not like the players are getting robbed on high AAV short term contracts.

srpst23Member since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  JohnnyRingoFWC

But they are getting robbed via artificially capped salaries in their first few years and below market awards through arbitration for several years after that. The “overpaying” for past performance was always sort of the deal/reward of free agency. Now teams want it both ways, to underpay upfront and then not pay for past performance after like 7 years of service time, where most players are past their prime. Don’t forget that baseball owners get away with a lot of this crap because of their 100 year old anti-trust exemption that other leagues don’t have.

Lanidrac
2 years ago
Reply to  srpst23

That’s a necessary evil to ensure competitive balance. Small markets would almost never be able to compete if they couldn’t develop cheap young stars for the first 6+ years of their careers. Even early career extensions take into account that the earlier years are supposed to be much cheaper.

Meanwhile, teams are still perfectly willing to pay for past performance at 7+ years of service time until the years when the players hit their mid-30s and beyond, and they’ll often still pay them top dollar until age 36 or 37.

However, even if it’s still somewhat common practice, players are still in no way entitled to being overpaid for past performance, neither officially nor unofficially, as a reward for be underpaid earlier in their careers. They just have to accept that they need to be underpaid before free agency and then earn their salaries with some concessions for expected age-related decline whenever they hit free agency after that. If anything, that’s a concession they accept for getting paid millions to play games, while even the minimum salary and MLB pension are enviable to most workers.

Last edited 2 years ago by Lanidrac
HomesteadSteveMember since 2018
2 years ago

There is no spin doctoring to justify that Snell and Montgomery (Boras) didn’t blow it. It’s March 8 and they don’t have contracts. When they do, they’ll be of the “prove-it-and-opt-out” variety, for which they’re getting further and further behind the 8-ball with each passing day.

The End

Murph3Member since 2020
2 years ago

Then, there was Dallas Keuchel waiting until June when there was no qualifying offer draft pick loss. He wasn’t as good as these guys at this point, but he had a Cy Young and was certainly seen as at least a #2-3 starter. Then again, that was weird.

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
2 years ago
Reply to  Murph3

Another thing to consider that now, unlike with Keuchel back then, the draft is now in July, so that’s another extra month the player/teams would have to wait to avoid giving up pick compensation.

linn
2 years ago

Personally, IMO that Black Snell isn’t a “great” Cy young winner pitcher. Two great years but he walks too many people for my taste. There is no way I would have given him 200+ Million for 6 years.

ScottyBMember since 2017
2 years ago

Snell’s bWAR by year:
0.8
1.3
7.1
1.4
1.0
1.4
2.1
6.0

That’s the problem. Boras/Snell expect him to be valued as a 6-7 war, 2CY winner. Teams look at that variance and are leery of long term or high AAV arrangements.
I think he’ll settle with something like what Bellinger/Chapman got – a short-term deal with opt-outs.

NATS FanMember since 2018
2 years ago

I think the Nats should offer huge one-year deals with a promise to trade them to contenders if their stats are good enough.