How the Royals Fare Against Power Pitching

Allow me to oversimplify the upcoming World Series: earlier in games, the Mets are going to send out pitcher after pitcher armed with a shoulder bazooka. The Royals will try to deflect their attacks by swatting the shells away, which they’re particularly good at doing. If the Royals do well enough swatting, then they’ll take the advantageous position, trotting out their own bazookas. And the Mets won’t have much defense against that. In case this oversimplification failed to make anything clearer, the Royals just want to get leads to their bullpen. Which means a critical match-up will be the Royals’ famously contact-heavy bats against the Mets’ famously velocity-heavy arms.

Sometimes, when you’re looking for keys and distinguishing characteristics, you really have to dig and get at the subtleties. This one is super obvious. The Mets are driven by their hard-throwing starters. The Royals are driven at least in part by their aggressive, ball-in-play lineup. The Mets’ rotation is historically powerful. The Royals’ lineup is historically good at touching the baseball. It’s something that’s just begging to be analyzed. And, it has been analyzed already. I’ve just decided to go about it a different way.

The core question: what to expect from the Royals offense against a bunch of hard-throwers? There’s some evidence that contact-hitting teams enjoy a slight postseason edge. Ben Lindbergh looked at contact- and non-contact-hitting players against strikeout and non-strikeout pitchers. The Royals, this very season, were one of the top-hitting teams in baseball against high-velocity fastballs. But I want to do here what I did with the Cubs. I don’t want to split pitchers by strikeout ability. I’m mostly concerned with velocity. And I don’t want to look only at the pitches with high velocities, because hard-throwing pitchers throw softer stuff, too. I want to see what the Royals did against different groups of pitchers, broken down by top speed.

I collected data for every pitcher who faced the Royals during the regular season. I could’ve folded in the playoffs, but that would’ve introduced another level of annoyance, and I don’t think it would change the results too much. Once I had those numbers, I added each pitcher’s average fastball velocity. Then I sorted in descending order of that, and I split the whole pool into thirds — the hardest-throwing third, the medium-throwing third, and the softest-throwing third.

In the table below, you’ll see how the Royals did against each group, by OPS and strikeout rate. Also included: the weighted averages for each group, against non-Royals opponents. Those are the references.

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Royals vs. Pitchers Grouped By Velocity, 2015
Velocity Group Average FA (mph) Royals OPS Royals K% non-Royals OPS non-Royals K%
Highest 94.7 0.722 17% 0.704 23%
Middle 92.1 0.748 16% 0.722 20%
Lowest 88.9 0.725 15% 0.747 19%
SOURCE: Baseball-Reference, FanGraphs

By this data, the Royals were at their best against the middle group — their OPS was 4% better than you would’ve expected, based on the league. But I think people are mostly interested in the first and third groups. And here, the results are the opposite of what we found with the Cubs, who have a very different offense. It’s in keeping with what Lindbergh found, when he grouped pitchers differently. Against the hardest-throwing opponents, the Royals hit better than the rest of the league did. Against the softest-throwing opponents, the Royals hit worse than the rest of the league did. Against the hardest-throwing opponents, the Royals’ strikeout rate was 73% of the average. Against the softest-throwing opponents, the Royals’ strikeout rate was 80% of the average.

As before, I have to note two potential issues — there’s the issue of sample size, and there’s the issue of non-uniform hitter distribution between groups. But the smallest of the three samples is just shy of 1,600 plate appearances, and the hitter distribution should be pretty even. So this functions all right, I suspect. The results shouldn’t be all that surprising.

We’re not looking at an enormous effect, here. The lineup doesn’t behave completely differently against different pitchers. But it does seem like the Royals have a slight edge against power opponents, and then that gets balanced out by a relative weakness against the finesse types. If you want to personify the groups, the Royals made some solid contact last week against David Price, but they had bigger problems with Marco Estrada. This would confirm the theory that the Royals have an okay match-up against the Mets. Not that the Royals have the best offense in baseball, and not like anyone wants to face the Mets’ starters, but the Royals should do better than an equivalent offense with more power and strikeouts. The contact should work in their favor, somewhat.

Why might that be? Here’s how I’m currently thinking about it. As has been demonstrated, groundball pitchers have an edge against groundball hitters, and fly-ball pitchers have an edge against fly-ball hitters. When you reverse the types, though, then the hitter has a sort of platoon advantage. I think this could work similarly. This is another oversimplification, but powerful pitchers are accustomed to getting a lot of their outs with strikeouts. Weaker pitchers are more likely to traffic in command and soft contact. So for a given finesse pitcher, a contact-heavy lineup plays right into his hands. It’s the opposite for a power pitcher. I might be wrong on this, but it’s the best explanation I have. The Royals lineup is excellent at doing the opposite of what the Mets rotation is excellent at, and I think that’s a real factor.

Probably not a huge factor. Probably not a series-deciding factor. But, I guess anything can decide a series. To this point in the playoffs, Mets starters have struck out 31% of the batters they’ve faced. Royals hitters have struck out in 17% of their trips to the plate. It’s possible the Royals will just get overwhelmed by the pitching they see, but if they go as they’ve gone, those Mets pitchers are going to see more balls in play than they’re used to. And that’s when the bad things can happen.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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Shirtless Bartolo Colon
10 years ago

My gut tells me the Mets need a crafty veteran throwing high 80s heat to start Game 4, to break up all the cheese throwers in the rotation.

francis
10 years ago

Maybe they should throw underhand.

The Maddness
10 years ago

We get it.

The Mets throw hard and the Royals made good contact on hard fastballs.

What about data on hard sliders? Mets pitchers have 3 of the top 10 hardest thrown sliders in baseball. (Degrom 1, Harvey 2 and Syndergaard 6).

ZenMadman
10 years ago
Reply to  The Maddness

This. I was really hoping for a fangraphs article delving into more details, like how the Royals are likely to do against the Warthen slider. Of course, they haven’t faced the Warthen slider, so maybe there isn’t data to work from. But this Mets rotation isn’t really special just because they all throw hard. It’s because they combine that with good, hard secondary stuff that they can command.

ShauncoreMember since 2019
10 years ago
Reply to  ZenMadman

Average velo of Harvey, Syndergaard, and DeGroms slider:

Syndergaard 87.9 MPH
DeGrom 89.7 MPH
Harvey 89.7 MPH

So we’ll just say the average of the group is 89 MPH

Royals as a team this year vs 89+ MPH sliders is a .167 BA and .167 SLG%. So yeah a .000 ISO. All singles.

Perez has been the best overall as he’s 4/7 (again all singles). Worst is Morales who is 0/7.

PredictionBot
10 years ago

The Royals will hit .500 on balls over 95 mph, and will knock every player they get on base thanks to their flawless contact skills. However, Murphy will hit a HR every at bat to make the series close. Both teams will win 3.5 games, split the trophy in half, and douse each other in champagne.

Werner Heisenberg
10 years ago
Reply to  PredictionBot

That’s my expectation

Serbian to Vietnamese to French and back
10 years ago
Reply to  PredictionBot

The royal family will reach 500 eggs over 95 km / h and each player reaches through the possibility of his perfect touch. However, Murphy will knock each shot to create a series of performances. Both teams will play 3.5, sharing the title in one half and another turn in the north …

hurricanexyz
10 years ago

I had a similar thought about the analogy with fly-ball vs. ground-ball splits.

But if your theory about why this holds true is right, then that presumably demonstrates the task for a power pitcher facing a great contact-hitting lineup, yes? Emulate the pitching style of a softer-throwing, finesse pitcher? Which… it’s interesting how few walks these Mets starters issue, given how hard they throw and how many people they strike out. Not to sound all homerish, but there’s some reason to think they might be better equipped to make that adjustment than many hard throwers out there.

Although David Price also obviously has top-notch command and I guess it didn’t really seem to serve him very well…

jose
10 years ago
Reply to  hurricanexyz

This is an under-rated point.
The Mets hardly walk anyone, and the Royals hardly walk at all. Thats a Mets strong point going against a Royals weak point.

Eric
10 years ago
Reply to  jose

IF you believe walking less than average is a weak point. I DO NOT. In fact, the best hitters in my opinion walk less than the 8.7% and strikeout less than the 19.6% MLB averages. I proved this with my formulas named and acronymed HEWCO, CCR, and BSM.

chuckb
10 years ago
Reply to  jose

And if the Royals have an advantage in the battle of the bullpens, it won’t help them that they don’t see more pitches and don’t walk much.

Dean Travers
10 years ago
Reply to  chuckb

They see a lot of pitches b/c they get so many hits.

james wilson
10 years ago
Reply to  jose

“The Mets hardly walk anyone, and the Royals hardly walk at all. Thats a Mets strong point going against a Royals weak point.” That is violently illogical. The Mets strong point is completely wasted since the Royals weren’t going to walk anyway. This subtracts a Mets advantage.

hurricanexyz
10 years ago
Reply to  james wilson

Yeah my point was less that the Mets would be at an advantage because they don’t walk anyone. With walks as such I think the “same tendency favors pitcher” rule doesn’t follow, basically because pitchers who pound the zone can unilaterally negate a patient hitter’s primary strength.

Rather I was educing the Mets’ pitchers lack of walks as evidence of their good command, and suggesting that therefore they might be able to use that good command not to pound the strike zone as they usually do (highest zone% in MLB) but to mimic the pitching style of a finesse pitcher who works around the zone and tries to get swings at bad pitches and the like.

Importantly the suggestion is only that they *could* do this; if, on the other hand, they keep throwing strikes the way they’ve done all year, they could find themselves giving up a lot of crisp singles. And based on their to my mind somewhat excessive willingness to throw the ball in the strike zone on 0-2 counts, I’m less than confident that they will actually adjust their strategy the right way for this series.

jose
10 years ago
Reply to  james wilson

No it doesnt, the Royals have a 6.3 BB%, it can still go lower. Their contact rate can be praised and all, but their BA was just .269 (and they didnt make up for it with power), for an OBP of just .322 (11th), you need people on base if you want to score.

Kevin
10 years ago
Reply to  hurricanexyz

Price throws strikes, but i’m not sure he has top notch command if you were to look at him by Edge% for example. to be honest i almost thought it worked against him in the Royals series. the trick is to make aggressive hitters expand the zone and generate weak contact early in counts. too many strikes leads to too much quality contact.

Mark
10 years ago
Reply to  hurricanexyz

David Price didn’t really have many issues vs the Royals. He dominated game 2 up until the Goins dropped ball, and he went 6 innings allowing 2 runs in game 6 and dominated once he stopped using his change and went to his curve.

But your point is otherwise correct, that the goal should be to make them expand the zone and to keep them guessing like Estrada did and mess with their timing.

Harry Arrieta
10 years ago

Price had terrible command in this year’s playoffs. I didn’t pay close enough attention to past years but he was surely bad this time around.

JKSmoove
10 years ago

The Mets’ hitting has been pretty good itself since the team got its current roster on the field– they were the top offense in the National League from the day of the Cespedes trade going forward. There’s not an easy out in that Mets lineup. The games against Greinke and Kershaw in the playoffs were bitterly fought battles, but the Mets have been able to pretty easily chase the starters they have faced who are not in that elite kind of tier. Brett Anderson, Kyle Hendricks and Jason Hammel all got chased early in the playoffs.

The Mets gave a whole giant pile of at bats to some really cruddy hitters before they made the Cespedes trade, promoted Conforto and got Wright and d’Arnaud back from injury, and still managed to finish 7th in the National League in runs. As currently constituted they are a terrific offensive team. The wRC+ of the starting lineups look like this:

Granderson 132
Wright 133
Murphy 110
Cespedes 157
Duda 133
d’Arnaud 131
Conforto 134
K Johnson 100
Flores 95

Escobar 67
Zobrist 124
Cain 129
Hosmer 125
Morales 131
Moustakas 124
Perez 87
Gordon 122
Rios 72

Adam
10 years ago
Reply to  JKSmoove

Mets have a very nice order. The Royals did just beat the Blue Jays though.

Whoa
10 years ago
Reply to  JKSmoove

I didn’t realize the difference between the two teams in wRC+ was so stark. Royals’ highest wRC+ is Morales, who will likely sit the three games at Citi, at 131. Mets have six guys with a wRC+ of 131 or higher.

It’s interesting that everyone considers the Mets to be the underdogs. The Royals’ ridiculous bullpen won’t do them much good if their starters are giving up six runs a game.

John Gibbons
10 years ago
Reply to  Whoa

Yeah, the Mets will score 6 per when my vaunted BJs could only do 4.5 per. Good one. I’m still laughing in between swigs of my Canadian Mist.