If At First You Don’t Succeed, Try, Try Again: Turner, Castellanos Mash Phillies Into NLCS

Eric Hartline-USA TODAY Sports

PHILADELPHIA — You know what they say about first impressions, right? Well forget it. It’s nonsense.

The Phillies have run back last season’s NLDS result: a 3-1 victory over the rival Atlanta Braves, the no. 1 seed in the National League bracket. This time out was a little more acrimonious than the last, at times a little more touch-and-go, as a cavalcade of pitchers only barely kept the cap on the violently fizzing soda bottle that is Atlanta’s offense.

But with Braves ace Spencer Strider standing between the Phillies and a return to the NLCS, two players who were on the verge of being run out of town in the past 12 months — Nick Castellanos and Trea Turner — put the team on their backs.

“Those two are tough guys,” said Phillies manager Rob Thomson. “I don’t know the numbers, but at times when guys sign big contracts, they expect to do a lot. They want to do a lot for their teammates, for the fan base, for the city, and so they put a little extra pressure on themselves. And it takes a while just to relax and settle in and be themselves. Both those guys have done that now, and I’m happy about that.”

When the Phillies went all-in on power bats before the 2022 season, Castellanos was the team’s premier acquisition, earning a five-year, $100 million contract after a big 2021 campaign with the Reds. The 2022 season went poorly: a .263/.305/.389 line and 94 wRC+, and with indifferent defense in right field, he was a below-replacement-level player overall. Castellanos did provide some essential glovework in the playoffs, but in 69 plate appearances he hit just .185/.232/.246.

And yet manager Rob Thomson hit him fifth in every game of last postseason, behind Bryce Harper. That meant that when Castellanos made an out, it often derailed a rally. In 12 high-leverage plate appearances with men on base, Castellanos went 3-for-11, all singles, and hit into two double plays. It was not the way anyone wanted Castellanos’ Phillies career to start, and the four remaining years on his deal looked quite long indeed.

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“Even though I didn’t perform well, I enjoyed the postseason last year because I was grateful that I had the opportunity to play,” Castellanos said. “This year, I feel like it’s just me being in a more comfortable spot. All the extra energy that comes with playoff baseball, I’m able to channel it better.”

Castellanos was much better in 2023, hitting .272/.311/.476 and making the All-Star team. And since the Phillies-Braves series swung north, he’s been sublime. Harper was the headline figure in Game 3, but when the Braves broke through to open the scoring against Aaron Nola on Wednesday night, it was Castellanos who answered back first with a solo home run.

In Game 4, the Phillies probed Strider frequently in the early innings, putting two men on base with one out in each of the first three innings, but each time they came up with diddly-squat. Between his Game 1 start and the first three innings of Game 4, Ranger Suárez had been unhittable; the Braves had managed just three baserunners — a hit, a walk, and an error — off the Phillies lefty in that time.

But in the fourth inning of Game 4, they started to figure him out. Austin Riley plucked a changeup off his shoes and flung it just over the left field fence to put Atlanta up 1-0; any lengthy preservation of that lead would suck the life out of the Phillies and give Strider a chance to recover.

“We know how important momentum is in these postseason games,” Castellanos said. “So anytime that you feel it may be swinging in the other direction, we do a very good job of locking it in to get the momentum back in our favor. That’s important to our team.”

Sure enough, it was Castellanos who answered once again. He turned on a first-pitch slider from Strider and knocked it out of the park. All night, the Braves’ ace had been able to throw past Phillies hitters but struggled to locate and left occasional hittable mistakes in the zone. When he faced Castellanos again with two outs in the fifth, he was emptying the tank. The fourth pitch of the at-bat was a 100.7 mph fastball. The fifth came in at an even 100, and left at 112.4:

It was the hardest-hit ball Castellanos had ever hit in a Phillies uniform. The second-hardest-hit, 112.2 mph, was Castellanos’ Game 3 homer against AJ Smith-Shawver. He’s the third Phillie to record two multi-home run games in a single postseason, and the first player from any team to homer more than once in consecutive playoff games.

“I think he’s unique. He’s one of one,” Turner said of Castellanos after the game. “I don’t know if I’ve met anybody like him. And I mean that in a good way. He’s different. And he can really, really hit… It’s cool seeing him just do his thing. And regardless of what people think about him, he’s just his own person. So I love him and respect him for that. This series has been really cool just for him individually, but as a team, too.”

When Castellanos came out to right field to start the top of the seventh, the crowd roared to salute him, like a Roman consul celebrating a triumph. A crowd of skeptics had become a multitude of admirers — his multitude, as he was reminded an inning later when the thunderous applause reappeared for his fourth plate appearance. Castellanos duly grounded a ball through the left side to reach base for the fourth time on the night, and to record the 44th game of three hits or more in Phillies playoff history.

An inning earlier, Turner beat out an infield single to become the first Phillies player to record four base hits in a playoff game.

Turner was the latest addition to the Phillies’ cavalcade of starts, signing an 11-year, $300 million contract during last year’s winter meetings. And having won a World Series in Washington, Turner’s maiden voyage in his first season up I-95 started out pitiably.

After Game 4, Turner was asked how his experience with the Phillies so far compared to his expectations when he signed that deal.

“I didn’t think I would stink for 100 games, and I did,” Turner said.

Turner’s mighty struggles in the first half of the season are well-documented, as is the pick-me-up he got from Phillies fans in early August. That ovation has come to define Turner’s season; the only other place “Turner” and “Ovation” show up this frequently, this close together, is on the acoustic guitar rack at Sam Ash.

Turner was hitting .235/.290/.368 when Citizens Bank Park gave him that push; he hit .339/.391/.677 for the rest of the regular season, and in six postseason games, he’s 12-for-24 with four doubles, two home runs, and four stolen bases.

In three plate appearances against Strider, Turner saw five pitches and swung at every single one. The first two, triple-digit fastballs, he fouled off. The remaining three went for base hits: a first-inning double, then a third-inning single. With one out in the fifth, Strider gave Turner the ball he was looking for: first-pitch slider, belt-high and on the inner half of the plate:

That was the $300 million hit, the eventual game-winning home run off the unhittable opponent in the most important game of the year to date.

“[Strider]’s got great stuff. We all know it,” Turner said. “I feel like in the past, in my at-bats off him, I missed [those pitches], fouled them off, whatever it is. And I [tip my] cap to him, because he’s got good stuff. But tonight it was just: Don’t miss those pitches. I got those pitches to hit, and I didn’t miss them.”

Turner was busy in the field as well: He recorded either the assist or the putout on six of Atlanta’s first 12 outs, and would have had a seventh if Harper had made a better pick on a ball that went down as a Turner throwing error.

Over the course of the game, Turner, Harper, and Castellanos — Philadelphia’s three highest-paid position players, under contract for nearly three quarters of a billion dollars among them — showed, in Harper’s words, “why you spend the money, baby.

These three came to the plate 12 times in total and made a grand total of one out: 8-for-9 with three walks, three home runs, and a double.

The Phillies never did pull ahead by enough to relax. Craig Kimbrel used every bit of road available to him, plus the shoulder, plus scuffing his hubcaps on the curb, in stomping out a seventh-inning rally. Ronald Acuña Jr. drove a ball to the gap in left center with the bases loaded and two out, but watched Johan Rojas drag it down.

The Braves put the tying run on base again with nobody out in the ninth, before Matt Strahm procured the final three outs. Scariest of all, Harper took a bump to his surgically repaired right arm on a close play at first in the eighth; he came off the field in the arms of reliever Gregory Soto, but stayed in the game and appears no worse for wear.

And so the Phillies spin forward to the NLCS with their ideal roster almost entirely intact. It’s an unusually advantageous position for a team to be in this deep into October. With most of the top seeds having attritted themselves out of the playoff picture, the Phillies are favorites to win the pennant again, and virtual co-favorites, with the Astros, to win the World Series.

That was what everyone — players, team, fans — expected of Turner and Castellanos when they signed in Philadelphia. Thomson was asked if he was happy the Phillies had opened their checkbook to sign these players.

“Yeah, it’s not my money, so I’m very happy that we signed them,” Thomson joked. “Thanks to [Phillies owner] John Middleton.”

Thomson and his expensive charges are now eight wins from the ultimate prize, and playing better than ever. It was a rocky start, but now everything is going according to plan.





Michael is a writer at FanGraphs. Previously, he was a staff writer at The Ringer and D1Baseball, and his work has appeared at Grantland, Baseball Prospectus, The Atlantic, ESPN.com, and various ill-remembered Phillies blogs. Follow him on Twitter, if you must, @MichaelBaumann.

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downbaddav
2 years ago

remember last year when when the phillies went into the world series “red hot” and then the astros threw a no hitter against them

David McCann
2 years ago
Reply to  downbaddav

Last year was last year. They have what it takes to win. A great offense, three very good starting pitchers and an excellent bullpen Houston has that as well.

Yet I would not be shocked to see Arizona against Texas in the World Series.

Baseball is great like that. Pittsburgh did beat the Yankees in 1960 despite scoring just about 50% fewer runs.

People should stop worrying about top seeds losing. Arizona and Philadelphia were clearly the better baseball teams.

Indeed four deserving high quality teams remain.

This has been a great year for baseball

DH
2 years ago
Reply to  David McCann

“Arizona and Philadelphia were clearly the better baseball teams.”

Sept 22-24, 2023: the Kansas City Royals went into Houston and swept the Astros in a three-game series. Clearly, the Royals were the better team. Maybe they should be playing in the ALCS

FrancoeursteinMember since 2025
2 years ago
Reply to  DH

The Royals were better that series, just as Arizona and Philly were the better team in their respective series.

DH
2 years ago
Reply to  DH

Since this is getting downvoted. . . my point was that it’s silly to look at 3 wins and declare that one team is *clearly* better than the other.

The Astros were fighting for their playoff hopes in late September and Kansas City went in and swept them in Houston. No one would look at that series and declare that clearly Kansas City is the better team.

Arizona played better than Los Angeles and Philly played better than Atlanta during the second week of October. That doesn’t necessarily make them better teams.

mordecaiconstantMember since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  DH

1906 Cubs and 2001 Mariners won 116 regular season games and were clearly the best teams in baseball, if not all time. But alas the postseason is fickle. And how I love it.

Ashburn Alley
2 years ago
Reply to  DH

Oh a whiny Braves fan. What a shock.

DH
2 years ago
Reply to  Ashburn Alley

I’m simply trying to point out the foolishness of looking at a couple of events and drawing broad conclusions.

Kind of like reading two comments from me and jumping to the conclusion that I’m a whiny Braves fan.

Perhaps I’m actually just an annoying pedant.

ChoochMember since 2019
2 years ago
Reply to  DH

You might even be both a braves fan and an annoying pedant.

DH
2 years ago
Reply to  Chooch

I’m probably even whiny more often than I realize or than I’d like to admit

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  DH

Ain’t we all?

(Well, you all – I’m always exactly right and perfectly measured in my responses to everything!)

AndyMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  DH

Maybe the Braves will win if they play another playoff series vs Philly next year.

LoafyTrophy
2 years ago
Reply to  DH

How is this being downvoted? You’re right, it’s absurd to draw definitive conclusions based on a single series of games. It’s pretty easy to look at the 84-win Arizona, a team that badly slumped in the 2nd half, and conclude that they’re the definition of a mid-table team rather than a “high quality” one.

I mean congrats to them for doing the work in October, but it’s totally reasonable to ask why they’re even here in the first place, because they didn’t do anything in the regular season to deserve it. And I say this as someone who wants to see one of my all time favorite players, Evan Longoria, get a ring.

Robert JungmanMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  LoafyTrophy

I’m a life long Braves fan and I’m following this thread with interest. I have to be honest. It does seem to me that what these postseason outcomes tell us is that, rather than that 3 or 5 game series outcomes in the postseason can be random, instead the opposite is true, that the difference between 104 regular season wins and 90 isn’t statistically significant, since so many of those games are against lesser opposition?

Xerostomia
2 years ago
Reply to  LoafyTrophy

Maybe the Dbacks are not as bad as an 84 win team and the Dodgers not as good as a 100 win team?

Dodgers went an unprecedentented 24-5 in the month of August. Otherwise for the remainder of the season they were on pace for a 93 win season.

Dbacks were leading the division on July 1, and 16 games over 0.500 (96 win pace). They then went 7-25 (never happened in the history of the MLB that a team 16 over 0.500 that late in the season goes -18 games in 6 weeks), but then went on a 96 win pace (27-15) before losing the last 4 games of the season (maybe losing the last 2 on purpose).

Thus, 1 incredible month for the Dodgers define their win total, and 1 horrendous 6 week slump defines the Dbacks. Otherwize for 120-130 games the teams were almost the same.

Personally, I don’t believe the problem is the layoff. I believe the problem is playing division rivals. Just change the format like they did with the 1 wild card initially and not let division rivals play each other in the NLDS/ALDS.

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synco
2 years ago
Reply to  DH

Your post seems to whooshing over a lot of heads.

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  synco

To be fair some of us are quite short

DH
2 years ago
Reply to  synco

“Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I would catch it.”

CTA
2 years ago

Regular season just undervalued by the playoff format. I am sure that is fine for many because it creates great entertainment but I personally would prefer something like they do in Korea and have the better regular season team start with a game advantage until the World series (which by the way means Braves, O’s and Dodgers would still have been eliminated).

162 games should just mean more from my pov.

Youppi!
2 years ago
Reply to  CTA

when they expand to 32, we’ll know exactly what they care about more. the logic would be 8×4 with 8 playoff teams, 7 game each, with seeding priority.

but they’re gonna go with more teams, more convolution and more money. when it goes to 16 teams, it will just be a g.d. farce.

CC AFCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  CTA

Gross. Starting with an advantage in the series is worse than the ghost runner in extra innings. I’m so tired of this debate. We’ve had playoffs since 1903. The best team is not always going to win and that’s ok! I don’t want to see us putting our thumbs on the scale to try to produce a specific outcome.

If you care that much about the regular season then just decide that you, personally, feel that the Braves had the better season than the Phillies or whatever.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

I like it for the WC round – if I had my druthers, it would even be a doubleheader, with one day off before the DS, to reduce the layoff!

I’d even re-seed it based on record after the WC round…but I wouldn’t mess with the DS or CS formats.

CTA
2 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

That’s a silly take. I care about the championship and I would like to see the best team having a better chance to win. The point is the best team rarely wins under this format, different from playoffs in the pre wild card days. Its ok if this is not important to you but dont tell me it should not be important to me!

CC AFCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  CTA

I didn’t tell you what should be important to you. I just don’t want to see advantages stacked on advantages just to produce the desired outcome. You already have home field and seeding and bye advantages. I don’t want to see teams starting with an extra phantom win. Just let people play baseball and accept that sometimes the “better” team isn’t going to win. That’s sports!

I don’t hear this stuff like when the giants beat the undefeated patriots team in the Super Bowl. No one was like “omg, we failed, from now on the Super Bowl should be played at the better team’s home stadium and they should start with a touchdown lead.” Everyone just thought it was a cool and fun upset

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CTA
2 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

You are of course entitled to that opinion. The question is how often should the best regular season team win the title. In baseball it is to rare for ny liking. And by no means I like the best team to win the title always. I can tell – I am from Germany and Bayern has won the soccer title 11 years in a row which is terribly boring. But in baseball it really has become the exception that the best regular season team wins the title. Not good for my (!) taste.

Antonio BananasMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  CTA

Or even just fewer days off. Almost all playoff caliber teams will have 3 good starters and a fee good relievers.

The days off allows a lot more usage of the top of the staff. 100 win teams are usually deeper which is negated with so many off days.

I’d prefer a 1-6 and 2-5 format in the LDS (7 games instead of 5) and LCS. More home games for the higher seed and fewer off days.

Johnnie TMember since 2024
2 years ago

Playoff baseball is fun, but really, it is making the regular season less meaningful. Over a full season, LA and Atlanta proved that they were the best teams in the league, but neither will be in the World Series because of the results of a few games in October. I know it is always thus with playoffs, but the last couple years of the NL have really put it into relief there.

CC AFCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  Johnnie T

Fun fact: one of them wouldn’t have been in the World Series no matter what else happened

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
2 years ago

I can’t figure out why Snitker replaced Harris and Arcia with Walls and Lopez, nor why he put the Braves in a position where Grissom had to bat in an important situation. Nor why If they planned a parade of pinch hitters to counter playoff bullpens they didn’t have actual hitters rather than Grissom and Walls on the roster.

DDMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Not sure why Arcia was PR for, as he’s not terribly slow, but he did represent the tying run in the 7th, and Harris got pinch hit for to counter the tough lefty on the mound. Snitker was simply trying to incrementally boost his chances in the 7th when they had their best chance to take the lead. The down side to failing in the 7th to take the lead was they burned their bench and had nothing left but an ice cold Grossom.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  DD

If that was their plan I don’t see why they didn’t roster more bench bats? Wall and Grissom were wastes of roster space. Practically everyone was on waivers August 31.

maguroMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  DD

I thought the same thing, but actually Arcia is terribly slow, 16th percentile sprint speed.

TKDCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  maguro

Yes, and he’s also not one of those slow guys that makes up for it by being savvy.

Still, though, it’s a bit weird to pinch run in the 7th inning without even the ability, much less the intent, to attempt a stolen base.

PC1970Member since 2024
2 years ago
Reply to  TKDC

Yeah, I generally dislike pinch running in that situation unless it’s taking out a really slow guy like older Miguel Cabrera..esp., when it’s also your SS.

Just seems like there is a very specific chain of events that need to happen for it to make a difference (double in the gap or 2 singles right at an outfielder, etc) & more times than not, the pinch runner doesn’t make a difference..either because the batters get out or the PR would have scored regardless, I.E., bunch of hits in a row or a HR, etc…so, all you’ve done is weaken your team for the remainder of the game.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
2 years ago

Phillies bringing that 2015 Royals energy.

So much damn fun!

tedMember since 2026
2 years ago

Can confirm: Royals fan on the Phillies bandwagon here!

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  ted

I’m a Yanks fan and that run is still one of my favorites ever.

fanofthemanMember since 2020
2 years ago

We had an amazing run of World Series for a few years there. 2014 was the Bumgarner year and seven games. 2015 was the fun Royals run that wasn’t the best series against the Mets, but still plenty of drama. 2016 was an all-timer with the Cubs and Guardians. 2017 was that excellent Dodgers-Astros series.

We’ve had a lot of good baseball in the last decade!

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  fanoftheman

All baseball is good baseball, some is just great baseball!

Jon L.Member since 2016
2 years ago

It looks to me like the Castellanos home run in the video is different from the one that was introduced. It’s a 4th-inning homer off a slider, while the text introduces a 5th-inning homer off a 100-mph heater.

timmer
2 years ago

I don’t know how, if you’re not invested in one of the teams remaining, everyone is not rooting for the Phillies. They are so fun, their crowd is a standard deviation above any other, Bryce Harper is the best.

I am a Cubs fan, but a jealous one, the Phillies fans have something really special to enjoy.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  timmer

Hopefully the media starts talking about Trae Turner more than Santa Claus 55 years ago, when it comes to Philly fans…but I won’t hold my breath.

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CC AFCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  timmer

Something’s in the wooder

utleysworld
2 years ago
Reply to  timmer

I know I’m in the extremely small minority on this and will probably get a bunch of downvotes, but I’m a lifelong Phillies fan, and can’t get myself invested in this team no matter how much I try. I just can’t really get over the feeling that the team is bought, almost all of our players who matter the most we only have because we were the high bidder. I know in the end a win is a win, regardless of where it comes from, but I appreciate that teams like the Braves, Astros, Orioles, and D-backs are built around a homegrown core. Maybe the journey doesn’t matter as much as the destination to most, but it’s just a different feeling I get.

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CC AFCMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  utleysworld

I won’t downvote you. You can feel how you want, but I’ve never got the fascination with the “homegrown” thing. It’s not like Aaron Nola grew up in Philly or anything. He grew up in Baton Rouge, then went to LSU, got drafted and spent like half of two seasons in the minors. So he’s homegrown, but like Bryce is not? Cause instead of being drafted he was signed? Just doesn’t seem important to me. Bryce seems to have totally embraced Philly (trea, too, now) and that seems super cool.

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utleysworld
2 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

I dont know, it’s hard to quantify, but I feel like it’s just more “fun”?

No, it’s not like Nola grew up in Philly (and honestly, just because they’re homegrown doesn’t necessarily mean you like them – part of my discontent is there are a number of “homegrown” players I don’t like that much, including Nola), but there’s something about watching a prospect’s career through the minors, dreaming about their potential, seeing them go through growing pains, and feeling a sense of vindication when they actually reach that potential that’s fulfilling.

When you sign a great player like a Bryce or a Trea, there’s no dreaming on their future, there’s only immediate expectations. So you don’t get that same psychological investment.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  utleysworld

By no means am I trying to police what you find fun…but the ‘08-‘12 crew weren’t exactly a ragtag bunch of low-cost, home-grown players.

Werth, Victorino, Lee, Doc, and Oswalt were all outside acquisitions…not to mention guys like Raul, Pence, Polanco, Lidge, and Moyer.

Doubt Braves fans begrudge Swanson, Olson, Murphy, Fried, or Morton their teams of origin, either.

Making savvy external acquisitions is a damn important part of building a winner.

utleysworld
2 years ago

There were definitely outside acquisitions that played key roles, I’m definitely not dismissing that. But that ’08-12 group was built around Utley, Rollins, Howard, and Hamels (and Chooch while not a star was integral). Even Werth and Victorino, even though they didn’t come up the farm system, were kind of reclamation projects – Victorino being a rule 5 pick, and Werth,a 1-year signing post-injury, so always felt like our own.

Even with that group there were “homegrown” guys like Burrell and Myers that weren’t exactly beloved, but that core held it together.

I’m sure the Braves fans don’t begrudge any of their acquisitions, but Acuna, Albies, Riley, MH2, Strider, Fried – that’s a good a base as any, and it’s super nice that most of them are tied up for years at below market rates.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  utleysworld

Totally fair!

But I will say that I’d put Bryce and Wheeler on that JP/Jenk, “Not ‘homegrown,’ but…” scale!

JamesD84
2 years ago

I agree with utleysworld about feeling it easier to identify with and root for long-term players. Fwiw, Swanson & Fried were Braves minor leaguers from A+ and low-A ball, respectively, even though they were acquired in major league trades, so it was easy to think of them as long-term Braves. The Rosario/Soler/Joc rented outfield in 2021, while fun and valuable, felt more like hired guns.

As for the playoff format, I expect that MLB’s priority will be to do whatever is necessary to increase the chances that New York teams will qualify, for ratings purposes.

sandwiches4everMember since 2019
2 years ago
Reply to  utleysworld

Sports fandom is entirely irrational at its core, so I think it makes sense that some (most?) aspects of how we interact with the team are purely emotional.

Antonio BananasMember since 2026
2 years ago
Reply to  timmer

As a Braves fan, I’m jealous of Philly fans. Braves fans seem so apathetic at times, like they expect to lose in the playoffs. Pre 2022 I can understand why. They had been to the playoffs 20 times since 1990 with just 1 world series win. But then they won in 2022. Why so quiet?

Rooting for the Phillies because I love a crazy atmosphere.

Jason BMember since 2017
2 years ago
Reply to  timmer

These Phils are an extremely hairy bunch. From 80-grade hair (Stott) to 20-grade (Marsh) and all points in between. Harper, Bohm, Strahm…it’s quite the hirsute squad.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
2 years ago
Reply to  timmer

I will say that no player has ever changed my perception of him as much as Bryce Harper has. I saw him as a good player who had one great season and was riding that while not really doing that much. The Harper I watch now is everything you could ever want in a player. It goes far beyond his superb play. It is his fighting back from injury in record time! It is the leadership that he exemplifies in each and every game. The passion has only become greater and more intense as shown by his actions. I am a baseball fan first and am looking forward to some exciting games as the playoffs continue.

FrancoeursteinMember since 2025
2 years ago

So tired of hearing all of the playoff format excuses from fellow Braves fans. We had a historically great offense that didn’t show up – bottom line.

Mahoney
2 years ago
Reply to  Francoeurstein

As someone who roots for the Braves in the NL (lots of fans in my extended family), very glad you said this.

Bottom line is, the Braves are just two years removed from winning the WS after an 88-win regular season. So it would be hypocritical to complain about the “best” team getting gypped now that the Braves are a powerhouse.

whatmonster
2 years ago
Reply to  Francoeurstein

Very annoying, every fanbase has whiners and ours are loud right now.

It does not even make much sense since:

(a) with a 10-team playoff the ’21 Braves had 4 days off between the last regular season game and first playoff game (vs 5 this year). They did OK.

(b) the Phillies won the first Wild Card spot, so even if we went back to the old 8-team playoff we would have faced them anyway!

Phils had a better game plan and better energy vs. the playoff Braves two years in row now. I do agree that the 12-team playoff devalues the regular season and brings in teams that should not be there. The Phillies are not one of those teams and would have whooped us regardless of format.

Last edited 2 years ago by whatmonster
Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  whatmonster

I did like the old setup where they didn’t allow intra-divisional match-ups in the DS, even between the 1 seed and the WC.

Braves/Phils deserved 7 games of drama, haha!

TheFightingBurkhardts
2 years ago

That’s the old-old format, after the WC game got introduced in 2012, LDS matchups could be between divisional rivals.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
2 years ago

Fair – remember a Sox-Yanks ALDS a ways back.

David Klein
2 years ago

It is amazing that the weakest Braves team of this 2018-2023 run won it in 2021 kind of like all the great playoff Cardinals teams of the 2000’s and it was the 83 win team in 06 that won it all much to my chagrin. 

whatmonster
2 years ago
Reply to  David Klein

Or the ’13-now Dodgers only winning in the weird 2020 season/playoff, although that was still a great team.

tung_twista
2 years ago
Reply to  whatmonster

Dodgers did have the best chance in 2020 given that it was the only year in recent memory when teams needed to use #4 starter for Division Series and #5 starter for Championship Series. (Starting pitcher) depth has been one of Dodgers’ strongest suits with this year being the notable exception.

joe_schlabotnik
2 years ago
Reply to  David Klein

I don’t feel like any cardinals team ever has been deserving, tbh

fanofthemanMember since 2020
2 years ago
Reply to  David Klein

And the 2011 team was also probably their fourth best team between 2009-2015. Great offense but I shudder to think of the defense or the pitching

boomstickMember since 2024
2 years ago

Castellanos 2nd home run:

:0-32 Ain’t nobody talking about the hottest bat in the order
:43 his son going nuts
:58 Dad points to his son, out of the other 45,830 Phillies fans roaring at full tilt.

As it should be.
Incredible moment for both of them and I wonder how many sons ever get the opportunity to stay up past their bedtimes like this:

x.com/awfulannouncing/status/1712266484314251691?s=20

carterMember since 2020
2 years ago

Just wait till they follow the NBA and do an in-season tournament as well. 32 teams, 32 plays 1, single elimination. Probably 2-4 locations, and final 4 is at one ballpark. NCAA style tournament. Could be great fun. It is entertainment after all, I’d be all for it. In-season tournament champion, world series champion, and again, none of it says who the best team was. That is generally what the regular season is for.

With that said I realize that it would take 75 games for the “better” team to advance at 80%. But the playoffs are also a bit different than the regular season. You aren’t seeing 5th starters, and 4th starters are usually long men or bullpen arms. The pitchers strike out more batters, too. Teams aren’t resting guys, etc, so depth isn’t really a playoff factor. Top end talent can likely stand out more, so the reality is it is a slightly different game. The Dodgers had a great regular season, and seem to have depth…but if you look at the team they fielded in the postseason, no one can say that looks like a 100 win team. An injured Kershaw, and rookie Bobby Miller. Lance Lynn who was horrible this year, Miguel Rojas at SS. Braves and Phillies match up pretty well, I’d give the edge to the Braves, but the Braves really only had two good starters entering the postseason. The Phillies had 2 as well, maybe 3. Phillies have a much better bullpen, and the reality is in a 5 game series anything can happen. That is what makes the playoffs great.