Dodgers Add Yu Darvish, Look Absurdly Good Now
At their current winning percentage, the Dodgers are on pace to win 114 games. They haven’t lost since Clayton Kershaw went on the DL. They already look like a monster. But now, there’s this.
Source: Darvish to #Dodgers
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) July 31, 2017
Faced with the uncertainty of Kershaw’s health and a bunch of other starters with their own medical question marks, the Dodgers apparently decided that their best path forward was to add yet another frontline starter. If Kershaw comes back for the postseason, this may be the best four-man rotation we’ve seen a postseason team run out there since the mid-1990s Braves.
The postseason is still a crapshoot, and no amount of talent does anything to guarantee playoff success. To get to the World Series, the Dodgers will likely have to go through either the Nationals or Cubs, both of whom boast some pretty absurd talents themselves.
But man, this team was already loaded, and now they have another one of the best starting pitchers in baseball. As I wrote last week, Darvish isn’t risk-free himself, but the upside is obvious, and there are reasons for optimism along with the potential red flags.
In the midst of the worst month of the worst year of his career, his stuff and his expected outcomes look fine. But his strikeout rate is down, and the last time he got hit like this, he was just about to get shut down with an arm problem that eventually required surgery. If you want to take the optimistic scenario that he’s probably fine, this might be an opportunity to buy low, and there’s data to support doing just that. If you want to take the pessimistic view and think this is a guy with too many red flags to support giving up a significant return for a rental, there’s data to support that position as well.
What the Dodgers had to give up to rent Darvish for the postseason hasn’t yet been announced. But you have to think the Nationals and Cubs aren’t particularly happy about this piece of news. A behemoth just got even better. Good luck everyone.
Update: The Rangers are sending Willie Calhoun, A.J. Alexy, and Brandon Davis to the Rangers for rent-a-Darvish. Eric’s pre-season write-ups on the trio can be found below.
| Age | 22 | Height | 5’9 | Weight | 177 | Bat/Throw | L/R |
|---|
| Hit | Raw Power | Game Power | Run | Fielding | Throw |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 40/55 | 60/60 | 40/50 | 30/30 | 40/45 | 45/45 |
Relevant/Interesting Metrics
Recorded 27 homers and only 11.6% strikeout rate at Double-A Tulsa in 2016.
Scouting Report
Calhoun transferred from Arizona to Yavapai as sophomore, where he posted preposterous numbers. In 63 games, he hit 31 home runs, drew 38 walks and struck out just 13 times. Those numbers were undoubtedly aided by Prescott’s elevation, their home park’s size and the fact that Yavapai played their home games at a local high-school field when it rained. Despite questions about the validity of the on-paper production, Calhoun could clearly hit, exhibiting advanced bat control, timing and plus bat speed.
Amateur scouts had difficulty deciphering where Calhoun would ultimately fit on the defensive spectrum and an answer to that question still eludes pro evaluators. The Dodgers are hoping he can pass at second base but scouts outside the org aren’t optimistic. The lateral range and quickness fall quite short of the norm there. The arm is light for third base and Calhoun, who is already a 30 runner, arguably already lacks the foot speed to play an average outfield corner and is only going to get bigger than his current 5-foot-6, 200-plus-pound frame.
Regardless of whether or not Calhoun has a defensive home, he’s almost certainly going to hit. His fantastic season at Double-A Tulsa this year came in just his first full pro season after seeing JUCO pitching for most of last year. He has plus raw power and had one of the better batting-practice performances at the Futures Game in July. Scouts think Calhoun may have swing-and-miss issues in the big leagues, but these concerns are more a product of questions about Calhoun’s approach than issues with his bat-to-ball skills. He’s aggressive and will swing ill-advisedly at balls he can’t reasonably punish, but he grinds out at-bats and spoils good pitches until he gets one he can do something with. Also, his strikeout rates aren’t that high. I think he’s an above-average hitter at maturity and, while the approach is certainly a mild concern, the hit/power combination will probably be good enough to profile even if it’s just as a DH.
KATOH+ Projection for first six years: 5.8 WAR
A.J. Alexy, RHP – Throws 88-92 with a curveball that flashes above average. Change is a 40 right now. Prep arm from northeast, has pitch projection.
Brendon Davis, 3B, 1.7 KATOH+ – Davis has always had smooth, if not explosive, defensive actions and a very projectable frame, and he’s already moved over to third base, where he could be an above-average defender. He has some bat control despite the effort in his swing and how much he hits is going to depend on how strong he becomes as he fills out.
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Teams going for it god dammit! I like it.
We will get a good idea of who folded as the deadline came ticking down once the return is revealed
Meh. 3.98 fip. Bigger name than what he is giving performance wise right now. Depending on what top prospect is traded in return this could look like a Price to TO deal. Much ado about nothing (results wise in playoffs).
I think by far the biggest thing about this trade is: TEX is rated as the third worst framing team this year, and Darvish is going to an NL team that is rated as the best framing team. Darvish should post a 2.75FIP because of going from Lucroy to Grandal. Additionally, Darvish has a 3.05DRA(which is based off RA9, not ERA). DRA accounts for this framing difference.
I like this idea, but am concerned with the noise behind framing stats. Was not that long ago we said the exact same thing about pitchers throwing to Lucroy.
Good lord. If the Dodgers didn’t give up Verdugo/Buehler/Alvarez, then, it’s a good deal for them.
For the Rangers, it’s tough to evaluate because we don’t know how this will affect their ability to sign Darvish in FA, or how seriously they want to.
Edit: Calhoun looks like the headliner. He works way better in a league with a DH, so I like this for the Dodgers (despite the fact that he looks like he’s going to rake). Other two are Brendon Davis and some other guy. I don’t think the Dodgers are going to miss either of the two lower-tier guys.
Agreed on Calhoun’s glove, though I do wonder what the Dodgers’ long-term plan at second base is going to be. They already had trouble filling the position this past off-season, and Austin Barnes’ limited playing time at second base this year doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence that he could remain there in future years. Still, I suppose they have plenty of time to figure things out, with Forsythe under control in 2018.
Chris Taylor?
Good thought. Do the Dodgers consider him more of an OFer though? (And will the bat still play without a .418 BABIP?)
What’s scary about Taylor is that while his .420ish BABIP is definitely unsustainable, it’s not *that* far off from, say, his career minor league BABIP of .380.
The three projection systems on this site peg him at a ~.34-something BABIP, which should offset his ludicrous strikeout rate. League average bat sounds about right.
Taylor’s playing in the OF due to injuries. Long term though the Dodgers have Verdugo coming up and Toles returning next year.
Chris Taylor is the solution at 2nd base this season just like Trevor Story was the solution at SS for the Rockies last year. it ain’t gonna last…
The Dodgers acquired Cingrani, Watson, Darvish in a ~30 minutes time span and that’s the least crazy thing that’s happened today. #RIPMooch
This season’s writers have really been keeping us on our toes.
I’m really excited to see what this team’s final regular season record is. For the playoffs…of course they’re the favorite, but I certainly wouldn’t take them over the field.
given the nature of the playoffs, if you’re only concerned about being right (and not for example gambling with actual money) shouldn’t one quite literally never take a given team over the field?
Wow you wouldn’t take them over the field. Was that supposed to be bold?
Dang it. Just when I thought the dodgers were gonna stand pat.
Wow. Heist.
Looking at the SP projections in the Depth Charts, the Dodgers declined from 7.1 WAR to 6.9 WAR with the addition of Darvish. Did something else change? Or what would account for the decline?
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I think when the choice became ‘Calhoun or nothing’, Texas’ kind of player became flexible 🙂
Why would Dave think Calhoun is not Texas’ kind of player? They have and have previously had lots of position players with big power who are not good fielders and are shuffled between corner positions and DH. Players like Gallo, Moreland, Napoli and Fielder come to mind.
” this may be the best four-man rotation we’ve seen a postseason team run out there since the mid-1990s Braves”
Are you forgetting the 2011 Phillies? Or are they why that sentence says “may be” instead of “are”?
Dodgers 2017 xFIP-
Kershaw: 63
Wood: 65
Darvish: 87
Hill: 100
Phillies 2011 xFIP-
Halladay: 70
Lee: 69
Hamels: 78
Oswalt: 103
I’d give the edge to the Dodgers, I think, but like you said, it’s close.
Not that I expect (much less hope for) disaster, but Darvish is the one with the lowest injury risk in that rotation.
As Cleveland discovered last year, not every regular season pitcher can suit up for the playoffs.
I’m of the belief that his #’s would be a lot better if he seemingly wasn’t trying to induce more early count contact.
If he goes back to striking out the world easy W for Dodgers.
When is Calhoun coming up? Later this year? Next?
Whenever the Rangers want him to. He’s ready now, but he’s a 1B/DH.
He’s 5’6″. I doubt he’s playing 1B anytime soon. I think he’s straight up DH material at this point, but could be a really special one.
Would he be the shortest/smallest full time DH ever? It’s not like it’s a position well-known for having little guys either.
Nope. that has to go to Eddie Gaedel
Scouting report reads like Dan Uggla Jr. Fun to have uniquely proportioned guys running around and making a mess of things.
No way in hell he ever plays 1B. He is 5′ 6″
The guy has dominated for two years, he is clearly ready, if he’s not up in 2017 it’s purely roster/contract hijinks
Defense. Good god, his defense is bad. If they can stand putting a 5″8 guy at first, then they can try him there. Or maybe a really slow left fielder. Otherwise he’s gonna be a DH, or he needs to stay in the minors to work on his D at 2nd.
The 2B defense is probably academic, since Odor is there for the foreseeable future. For what it’s worth, he has a 1.000 fielding % in LF over 100 innings this year. Stick him in LF against righties and then DH against lefties with Choo or Mazara on the bench.
(at least for the short term – I think at some point someone needs to give him a shot in the field in the majors before he’s declared a DH forevermore)
The line should read “The Dodgers are sending…”
When will the playoff odds be updated to include Darvish with the Dodgers? Is it daily, or weekly?
Told y’all it would take more than Verdugo!
Another interesting question, if Calhoun plus a couple low minors guys got it done, could the Rockies have picked up Darvish with McMahon as a headliner?
That seems like a huge missed opportunity – McMahon is blocked in the majors *and* has Rodgers coming up behind him in AA. It also would’ve kept Darvish out of their division rival’s hands.
Rangers would have had to think hard, Calhoun has that beautiful power/contact profile but McMahon is hitting almost .400 and had more defensive flexibility.
Don’t think the Rockies could have tried that. Darvish had a partial no trade clause – with the Rockies on it.
Good catch! I had not thought to look
As stated above, Darvish could veto a trade to the Rockies. He probably wouldn’t want to pitch in Coors Field, especially with this being his his last shot to showcase himself before free agency.
McMahon’s improved contact rate is really interesting and I hope he can sustain it, but until teams are confident that he will I don’t think they would prefer him over Calhoun.
2017’s version of the 2014 Oakland A’s
Maybe Calhoun could be Altuve… without the speed and D, but with more power?
Willie Calhoun is one of the worst fielding second basemen in the minor leagues. Don’t think of him as a major league second baseman.
Pretty sure I said that.
So Altuve without legs? Yeah, that’s probably a fair comp for trying to put someone on Altuve’s level
Altuve without legs and a weirdly high amount of power. So basically nothing like Altuve except he’s short.
They’d share a lot more in common if Calhoun had legs.
I was trying to think of a comp for Willie Calhoun and I think the best one is already on the Rangers’ 40 man roster: Prince Fielder.
HAhahhahaha good one! My turn: a comp for Willie Calhoun…Albert Pujols! LOL this is fun! ok ok… how about Matt Kemp!
I think–like Ozzie Albies–there are just no comps for Calhoun.
This will make it all the more hilarious when they choke in the playoffs, again.
How does Calhoun compare to Tyler O’Neil? Can’t help but think the Mariner’s rotation would look a little better with Darvish in it rather than Marco Gonzalez.
Sorry, I don’t post here often, what’s the basis for these down votes? Are we that picky about typos?
Will Willie Calhoun be the best 5’6″ DH of all time? I am going to go out on a limb and say yes.
How tall was Jose Vidro?
This makes it easier for me to swallow the Cardinals not making the playoffs. They’d have no chance against LAD or WSH.