Introducing THE BOARD
Eric and I have been working hard the last few months to rank everything that we can, including produce at the grocery store and our friends and family. As far as the rankings that appear on FanGraphs, we’ve had Prospect Week, headlined by the annual top-100 prospects list and complemented by nine other associated pieces, including preseason draft rankings that were updated yesterday to account for what’s happened in the last 10 weeks.
In that spirit of ranking and constantly updating, along with the desire to show our work and give readers tools to make decisions, today we are introducing THE BOARD.
This represents just the first pass at a feature that is likely to be modified and improved upon. Feel free to submit any suggestions in the comments. (I, personally, have a list of about a dozen additions for the coming months.) While we could have continued to develop this before releasing it, we felt this was something from which readers could benefit ASAP. It also serves as a bit of an apology for the team prospect lists taking so long. We’ll still be releasing an article for each team as planned over the next couple weeks. In the meantime, though, every organization is included in THE BOARD, updated with full tool grades. Readers, for example, can check out some of those to-be-published audits, like the record-breaking Padres’ list featuring 43 prospects.
A big hat tip is in order to dark overlord David Appelman for making our crazy ideas a reality.
For those wondering why certain players haven’t been reranked — after having arm surgery, for example — since the top 100 list was released, these are preseason evaluations that have been updated only to account for transactions (mostly Rule 5 picks being returned and minor DFA type trades). Eric and I will be updating the rankings regularly in-season, with the first update coming in the next couple weeks. I hinted at some of the changes in yesterday’s chat.
If you look at the positional tabs, for example, you will find the top 100-ranked prospects in correct order, but the other prospects are not ranked within their FV tiers. The 45 FV first basemen here are not listed in any specific order, for example, but we will be fixing that in a future version very soon. That said, you can see all the candidates for a top positional list and clearly see the tiers. As noted, there will be an update in a couple weeks.
As an example of what you can do with the current version of THE BOARD (I’m trying this out to see if always doing it in caps should be a thing), take a look at the 2015 July 2nd signing period. You can use the tabs across the top to look at minor-league prospect lists (2017 and 2018), July 2nd prospect lists (2015, 2016 and 2017), or draft prospect lists (2015, 2016, 2017). If you use the 2018 minor-league overall list (735 players in total) and sort by “Signed,” for example, you’ll find all the players with “J2 2015” who made our prospect lists this year (40 FV or higher). Open another tab and click over to the 2015 July 2nd tab for the rankings I did (before I left for the Braves) of that class before they signed, and you can compare the same group of players based on what we thought of them 33 months apart.
All of the current top-100 prospects who signed in that class were on the board as amateurs and all but one were in the top 20 (nice job by me!), but that one very notable player was in the others section, essentially ranked 50th in the class 33 months ago. Fernando Tatis, Jr., the player in question, is now ranked second in his class, behind only Vladimir Guerrero, Jr. Can’t win ’em all!
Kiley McDaniel has worked as an executive and scout, most recently for the Atlanta Braves, also for the New York Yankees, Baltimore Orioles and Pittsburgh Pirates. He's written for ESPN, Fox Sports and Baseball Prospectus. Follow him on twitter.
Awesome work thank you guys! Is there any easy way for an ETA to majors column to be added?
+1
Thanks for all your hard work guys, this is great.
YOWZA! Rankings!
Thanks! I love the format as it places the information in one spot that is easy to navigate. I do have two suggestions:
1. For the guys in the background, a small suggestion is to add tabs for stats so it is easy to flip between scouting reports and stats.
2. This is a more long term suggestion for the guys in the background, add in a tab or way to link to most recent write-up on a player.
This is really, really cool. Thanks for this guys!
One thing I would love to hear more about are the changes from pre-Kiley lists to the Top 100. For example, Tristen Lutz was ranked as a 45 by Eric in the first pass, but now is in the Top 100 ahead of guys like Luiz Ortiz ,who ranked ahead of him in Eric’s list. Does that mean that Lutz improved, or just that Kiley ranked him higher than Eric so merging those two evaluations led to an upgrade in ranking for Lutz?
merging. more information often will change the ranking, like how some guys will be higher in a few weeks than they were in february. not scouting the stat line, but substantive changes.
Ok cool – that’s what I guessed but good to have the confirmation.
This is so dope
The only thing — and really, I hesitate to even criticize this list in minor ways because it’s by far the most interactive and thorough (not to mention free) prospect tool I’ve ever seen on the internet — is that for drafts and international signings, there are no columns that list which team the player went for.
This is awesome guys. Thanks so much for the innovative work you do
One more thing I thought of: it would be awesome if there was some way to include what minor league level these prospects are currently on. I would totally check that out before going to a minor-league game to see who the best guys to watch are. Obviously that’s way too much to do manually, but perhaps you could tie it to the Game Logs in an automated fashion?
Why would it be too hard? It’s all in the DB somewhere…
that was already near the top of our list, so i would expect it in the update
I picture you two sitting beside each other at a keyboard, each having to turn a key simultaneously in order to submit these comments.
Or the use of the word “I” implies that Eric and Kiley have actually become conjoined and that these keys are being turned by separate arms attached to a mutual torso.
Poor Quentin Holmes, the only FV 35 guy on the list 🙁
Shohei Ohtani to Quentin Holmes! I like it.
Where does this live in the top tabs? Trying to see how I can find it again without searching for this specific post.
that will be added shortly in some fashion, didn’t want to hold the article up
I desperately hope that the link to this thing literally just says THE BOARD
I see that you have org rankings for teams that have not had their 2018 updates on Fangraphs (e.g. Arizona). Is this going to be the same order we see when they do come out or should we expect them to change?
yes, those are the locked/official preseason rankings. updated in-season ones are coming shortly but you’ll be able to see archived versions of every update/season in some form
Suggestions:
1. ETA to majors (as someone else suggested).
2. KATOH with 6-year WAR would be great but since its author left don’t know if FanGraphs still has access to the algorithm to generate it.
3. Current level (AAA, AA, A, etc).
4. AL/NL selection (not just by team).
IIRC, access to KATOH is gone completely since Chris got hired by whoever he got hired by. It will be greatly missed.
1. Clementines
2. Strawberry
3. Peaches
4. Tomatoes
5. Bananas
6. Red Delicious
1. Grandma
2. Mom
3. Dad
4. Whacky Uncle
5. Grandpa
6. Older brother
7. Little brother
8. Cousin who lives in another state
1. Friend who is up for splitting the check when you go out to eat
2. Friend who lends you their car when yours breaks down
3. Friend who will pick you up at the airport
4. Friend who always carries tissues
5. Friend who always attends any party you throw
No way. Splitting-check friend is only 50 FV, way behind car-lending and airport.
And tissues are a pretty weak carrying tool, IMO. I’d much rather have Freind who always brings good beer.
Some people don’t drink, but everyone uses tissues
You haven’t seen a farmer blow his/her nose in the field, huh.
I can sneeze into my shirt, but I can’t drink my shirt. I’d much rather have a ride at the airport, and beer.
rankings could be better but definitely great idea. Shouldve incorporated Longenhagen’s work into this. I feel like he has a better grasp on the propspects currently as he’s been in the field every day for last few years, where you’ve been mainly in the office hearing the company lines.
Dude, the rankings are collaborative between both guys, and getting input from scouts makes them better, not worse.
WONDERFUL STUFF!!!!
I noticed, however, some of the ages are incorrect. For example, Steven Duggar is 24, yet the board lists him as 17.
This is so awesome.
One suggestion — instead of having to reassess everyone at midseason, why not just add a “last updated” column, continually update as needed, and leave it to users to make the comparisons. It seems like that would be less work for ya’ll, while also providing up-to-the-minute info to users.
Where do I click to see THE BOARD?
This is outstanding work and tremendously appreciated by the community.
Great work! I just have to say that I love the oddly ominous title “THE BOARD”.
I see that someone else has mentioned that the ages seem to be off.
Also, would be great if current level would be in the chart.
Can you add an export to csv, please? Would love to grab this to a spreadsheet to play around with.
+1
Yessss this is a feature I’ve been wishing for, awesome work. Will it be exportable to csv at some point?
Profile descriptions for each prospect (or link to team prospect page)?
Thanks for all your hard work!
Love the board, this is the best prospect content on the internet and it’s not behind a paywall which is amazing!
One suggestion for the next update would be to have the tools sort by FV first rather than PV, since for me at least that is what I care more about. Or to at least have the ability to sort by either one seperately. It threw me off when I sorted by Hit for example and had to scroll a ways for the less polished guys that are still highly touted for their FV Hit tool like Kyle Tucker.
Yeah I think they should just be separate
Wow the Mariners’ farm is awful.
Click here to see THE BOARD
Seriously great Click here to see THE BOARD work, you guys! I can’t imagine the amount of hours this entire process took.
this is fucking amazing.
*looks at Royals page*
on second thought, to hell with this.
As a Mets fan, I agree … to hell with this! Of course, I cannot stop looking at it.
Amazing work, thank you! Is it possible to demarcate players injured long term? Maybe something like a Red Cross next to their name
Have you considered calling it THE BOARD?