Look Here For Your Justin Smoak Optimism

I’ll admit from the top that this is just an experiment. But anyway, I won’t waste your time. Justin Smoak is 30 years old. He’s coming off a 90 wRC+ and a WAR of -0.1. He already has seven seasons of big-league experience, and in precisely zero of those has he measured in at even one win above replacement. Relative to what he was as a prospect, he’s been extremely disappointing. Last July, weirdly, the Blue Jays signed Smoak to a multi-year contract extension. Here’s a clip from his player page:

RotoWire News: Smoak, who was previously presumed to be in line for a platoon role, is the Jays’ preferred everyday first baseman, Shi Davidi of Sportsnet reports. (2/19/2017)

Strange! But maybe…not so strange? Stick with me. As a hitter, your primary skills involve how often you make contact, how hard you make contact, and where the ball goes after contact. I’ve messed around before with pitch comps, looking for similar pitches based on velocity, horizontal movement, and vertical movement. In this somewhat similar experiment, I’ve looked for similar hitters to Smoak based on 2016’s exit velocities, launch angles, and contact rates. Same methodology and everything — it’s all based around z-scores. In the big table below, the most similar hitters to Smoak last season, based on this method. I’ve included everyone with a combined comp score of 2.0 or lower.

Justin Smoak Comparisons
Player 2016 EV 2016 LA 2016 Contact% Comp Score 2016 wRC+
Justin Smoak 89.6 17.7 72.1% 90
Freddie Freeman 89.4 17.3 72.5% 0.3 152
Mark Trumbo 89.8 16.3 72.3% 0.5 123
Nick Castellanos 88.5 17.3 72.8% 0.7 119
Justin Upton 88.3 16.1 71.7% 1.0 105
J.D. Martinez 89.6 13.8 72.8% 1.1 142
Trevor Story 88.0 16.2 72.7% 1.1 120
Ryan Howard 90.5 17.2 67.2% 1.3 83
Joc Pederson 88.9 15.5 75.1% 1.4 129
Miguel Sano 90.0 17.1 65.7% 1.4 107
Randal Grichuk 87.4 15.6 72.0% 1.4 102
Evan Longoria 87.5 17.0 75.3% 1.6 123
Khris Davis 89.4 14.1 68.3% 1.6 123
Chris Davis 88.5 18.2 65.7% 1.7 111
Kris Bryant 86.6 19.8 73.0% 1.9 149
Chris Carter 88.7 18.8 64.7% 1.9 112
Pedro Alvarez 88.3 13.3 70.3% 2.0 117

The single best comparison to Smoak: Freeman, who was and is one of the best players on the Braves. You’ll notice there are but two below-average wRC+ marks out of 17. The overall average wRC+ in this group is 118. The median is 119. Last season, Jose Bautista’s wRC+ for the Blue Jays was 122.

I’ve never looked at players quite like this before, so don’t take this to mean more than it does. It seems, at least, modestly encouraging — Smoak’s exit-velocity numbers were quite good, and he didn’t struggle at all to generate lift. Maybe there’s just something about his approach that holds him back, but then, maybe he’s better than he looked. Given that he’s a slow-footed first baseman, he’s never going to top a WAR leaderboard. Yet perhaps the Blue Jays correctly identified that there’s upside still in there. The track record is what it is, but I can’t very well look at that table and dismiss it.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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CheeseballMember since 2016
9 years ago

This is the perfect, perfect preseason article. Jeff Sullivan purging angst from last year, promoting hope for the next.

bananas
9 years ago

The big difference between batters and pitchers when using this type of analysis is that pitchers have a small spread on their velocity and spin rates, whereas hitters will have a very wide range of LA/EV. E.g. a pitcher doesn’t sometimes throw their fastball 85mph, and other times 95mph. There’s very low variance within an individual’s sample. So a straight average is adequate to measure an individual.

For batters, I don’t think “average” accurately captures their profile.

There’s probably a much better math way to do this, but even just calculating z-scores for the 25th, 50th, and 75th percentile of each of those stats would be interesting to me!

fjtorres
9 years ago
Reply to  bananas

How’s his pop-up rate?
Maybe he blisters pop-ups and gently lofts flyballs? 😉

Paul G.Member since 2016
9 years ago

Smoak ’em if you got ’em.

Sooted72
9 years ago
Reply to  Paul G.

where there’s smoak there’s fire.

Sooted72
9 years ago
Reply to  Paul G.

smoak on the water, a fire in the sky.

Sooted72
9 years ago
Reply to  Paul G.

-do you smoak after sex?

-i dunno i never checked.

delv213
9 years ago

He can’t hit breaking balls whatsoever and he’s an easy shift candidate because he’s a dead pull hitter on grounders.

Mario MendozaMember since 2017
9 years ago

Whoa….

Either this is huge for Smoak, or a hole in the side of the ship we’re all riding with regard to this analysis. Or, less dramatically, this particular combo of stats.

Let’s look at some other recent statcast analysis.

AL 1B contact quality report (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2016-hitter-contact-quality-report-al-first-base-and-dh/) has this summary: “I nominate Justin Smoak‘s 27.3% liner rate for Fluke Statistic of the Year. Despite that outlandish number, Smoak’s Adjusted Production checks in at only 96. His K rate is real, and really high, and his fly-ball rate is likely to regress downward a bit. All of this points to potentially significant near-term decline.”

But Perpetua’s xStats says he deserved MUCH better results. 2015: .376 xOBA vs.331 wOBA. 2016: .333 xOBA vs .309 wOBA.

coreyjroMember since 2020
9 years ago

I’m thinking this might be a matter of spin off the bat. Smoak has always seemed to have warning track power, and my gut says he’s always hit a very catch-able type of fly ball.

evo34Member since 2023
9 years ago

The 33% K rate is pretty alarming for a guy with good but not great power.

Twitchy
9 years ago
Reply to  evo34

Yeah that’s what it comes down to. Even if you buy the batted ball info he has to actually hit the ball. Too many of his ABs end in Ks for him to take advantage of this. He’s got one of the highest K% in this group.

CM52
9 years ago
Reply to  Twitchy

It’s almost as if contact rate was used to measure the ability to “actually hit the ball.”

kriscolicMember since 2020
9 years ago
Reply to  Twitchy

One crude measure: SLG% on contact. All 2016 batters with 300 PA, Smoak ranks 75 out of 268. Everyone else on that table above ranks in the top 41. Near Smaok: Cano, Myers, Lucroy, Beltran, Grossman, Flowers, Pearce, Kipnis.

The K rate is part of the problem, but there’s more going on.

evo34Member since 2023
9 years ago
Reply to  kriscolic

Yep. That’s “good not great” power.

Matt
9 years ago

Pump some curveballs at Smoak and watch him flail like a baby deer on ice. Potential neutralized.

Ryan McCrea
9 years ago

his 1st and 2nd half splits in k%/bb% were dramatic – a change in approach is highly probable

evo34Member since 2023
9 years ago
Reply to  Ryan McCrea

What? He had a 12%/32% BB%/K% rate in the first half, vs. 11%/35% in the second half. If anything, he became slightly worse over the course of the season.

Danny MiddaughMember since 2023
9 years ago

Last year vs RHP he struck out 37.8(!)% of the time.

Blue ShoesMember since 2019
9 years ago

Are these exit velocities the raw values from Statcast or have they been run through Jeff Zimmerman’s correction equation based on number of batted balls missing? That could be something driving the differences potentially.

schlomsd
9 years ago

Or you could just take a look at this: http://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=smoak-001jus

He only slugged over .500 once in his minor league career in a stop over 66 PA’s and that was in the PCL (although in fairness Tacoma is a massive pitcher’s park). And he was just barely over with a BABIP of .376 (coincidentally enough, his career high). The only reason he’s been giving opportunities is because he excelled with aluminum bats but that has nothing to do with his ability to hit at the professional level.

radivel
9 years ago

I hope he does well just so every Jays fan on the internet can stop relating him to everything bad at every possible opportunity. It’s amusing enough, but as a Jays fan, I’ve had enough of Smoak in more than one way.

jsolid
9 years ago

Yep, a little spit and polish, and this Justin Smoak bandwagon is good as new.

Bobby Ayala
9 years ago

Hilarious! Can’t wait for next week’s: “Look Here for Your Jeff Clement Optimism.”

ogZayYsj3r7CGsz
9 years ago

Stop trying to make Smoak happen.

themarksman13
9 years ago

Lol

Brad McKay
9 years ago

Jeff, if you happen to see comments to your old articles – you’re a genius. Only guy I’ve seen with anything positive to say about Smoaky before this season (including myself, and I watch him everyday). Let’s see if your comps method proves useful for identifying more diamonds in the rough!