Rosenthal: Cardinals Out on Jason Heyward

Welp, so much for that. A few hours after I wrote that the Cardinals were the best fit for Jason Heyward among the three finalists, Ken Rosenthal suggests that he won’t be going back to St. Louis after all.

That leaves the Cubs and Nationals, assuming there isn’t a second mystery team. And between those two options, I’d expect Heyward to go to the Cubs, though of course, I just linked to a reason why you shouldn’t put too much faith in my expectations of these things. If it is the Cubs, then it will be fascinating to see if they really want to roll with a Schwarber-Heyward-Soler outfield, or if signing Heyward opens the door to a trade of Soler for a center fielder.

Stay tuned!

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Tom
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Tom

Does Soler really have that much trade value? A mid-twenties outfielder coming off a replacement level season?

Dave Cameron
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Dave Cameron

Early twenties coming off rookie year.

Tom
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Tom

Yes, there’s no way he could be lying about his birth certificate – that never happens in junior international sports.

Tom
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Tom

I’m curious on why you think baseball is any different than soccer or T&F (or any other sport that have age-limited tournaments). We know that there is huge age cheating in soccer (African countries are awesome in junior level tournaments, but only a handful of teams have made it out of the group stage in the WC) and T&F (basically anyone that can lie about their age does which makes the junior worlds a complete sham) but for some reason people claim there isn’t in baseball. Can anyone tell me why that is?

L. Ron Hoyabembe
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L. Ron Hoyabembe

Baseball is pretty devoid of nationalism.

Dave Cameron
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Dave Cameron

The Civil War is over, Tom. You guys lost. Hell, the Civil Rights movement was 50 years ago, Tom. Put away your pitchfork and burn your cape, Tom.

joser
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joser

It was a real problem, so in the the last CBA MLB got more stringent about getting official paperwork at the Latin American academies, to the point where promising prospects were going unsigned because of questions about their age (see Ballplayer:Pelotero for an example of this in action with Miguel Sano, now with the Twins). It undoubtedly still happens, but nothing like the situation in Africa or with soccer.

Funny thing is, if I was asked to pick the one MLB player I thought was lying about his age, without hesitation I’d pick Bryce Harper — and he has all the documentation you could want. LeBron James is the same. Sometimes a guy really is a manchild.

Tom
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Tom

Dave Cameron (I really hope this isn’t the real Dave Cameron),

I have no idea what you are talking about – are you calling me a member of the KKK? If so, that’s an awesome way to make your point. However I think the go to insult is to compare me to a Nazi.

You didn’t answer my question on why baseball is any different than T&F or soccer. We know there is a huge incentive for lying about your age but are you claiming that baseball players are more honest than soccer players or runners? Or are you actually claiming that Africans just don’t know any better and this would never happen in a country that plays baseball?