Is Ian Kinsler Cooked?

It’s been a rough year for AL second basemen on the wrong side of 30. Robinson Cano, 35, was recently hit with an 80-game PED suspension. Dustin Pedroia, 34, played just three games last week before going back on the disabled list with inflammation in the same knee that had sidelined him for the season’s first two months. Jason Kipnis has played more like 41 years old than 31, and fellow 31-year-old Brian Dozier has been merely average. The oldest of them all, the soon-to-be 36-year-old Ian Kinsler, has been one of the majors’ worst. It’s increasingly possible that his days as a productive regular are over.

After homering just twice in the Angels’ first 54 games, Kinsler went yard three times in a five-game span from May 29 to June 2, going 11-for-20 in those games against the Tigers and Rangers — Kinsler’s two previous teams, incidentally, both in the bottom half of the league in terms of run prevention. Even with the aforementioned hot streak, however, the returns on Kinsler have been underwhelming. He entered Tuesday hitting just .212/.279/.348. Out of 85 AL batting-title qualifiers, his on-base percentage ranked 80th, his slugging percentage 78th, his 74 wRC+ 77th, with Pedroia fill-in Eduardo Nuñez, Kipnis, and the Tigers’ Dixon Machado the only AL second basemen below him in the last of those categories. Kinsler’s glove has been strong enough (5.3 UZR) to just push his value into the black.

When the Angels traded a pair of low-level prospects for Kinsler last December, it appeared to be a worthwhile gamble. The six players who had toiled at the keystone for their 2017 squad (Kaleb Cowart, Danny Espinosa, Nolan Fontana, Nick Franklin, Cliff Pennington, and Brandon Phillips) had combined for a league-worst 63 wRC+ at the position and just 0.2 WAR. Tellingly, that sextet has combined for all of 39 big league plate appearances this year. While Kinsler was coming off a career-worst season with the bat (.236/.313/.412, 91 WRC+), his typically solid baserunning (1.5 BsR) and fielding (7.8 UZR) boosted his value to 2.5 WAR, 12th in the majors at the position. With an $11 million salary in his final year before free agency, he seemed like both a solid stopgap and an upgrade at the same time.

At the moment, however, he’s just a another hole in a lineup that has all too many of them. Yes, the Angels have the game’s best player, bar none, in Mike Trout (203 wRC+). They have an elite two-way shortstop in Andrelton Simmons (139 wRC+), a decent left fielder in Justin Upton (113 wRC+), a solid catching corps in Martin Maldonado, José Briceño, and the injured Rene Rivera (106 wRC+ for the trio), and three or four times a week, they have the the Most Interesting Man in the World, Shohei Ohtani (149 wRC+). After that, it gets dicey, as none of the other regulars has provided even league-average offense, not slumping third baseman Zack Cozart (92 wRC+), or the suddenly, impossibly bad Kole Calhoun (3 wRC+ — yes, you read that right) or end-stage-but-jeez-still-three-more-years-of-this Albert Pujols (88 wRC+). The stars-and-scrubs mix has produced an offense that entered Tuesday ranked fifth in the AL in wRC+ (106) and scoring (4.58 runs per game), but the Halos are nonetheless on the outside looking in when it comes to the playoff picture, and sooner or later, upgrades will be in order.

So is Kinsler done? He’s not exactly knocking the cover off the ball. His 86.8 mph average exit velocity ranks 171st out of 217 players with at least 100 batted ball events, but that’s a slight improvement on last year’s 86.2 mph, and he’s been in the 85-87 mph range in all four seasons of the metric. He doesn’t have much swing-and-miss in his game (4.6% this year, below even his 5.2% career mark), and he generally hits the ball in the air: his 35.5% ground-ball rate, for example, is 71st out of 85 AL qualifiers, though his 13.8% infield fly rate is 21st. His xwOBA is a grim .303, which ranks 199th out of 250 players who have seen at least 500 pitches. That represents a 31-point drop from last year, but he was nonetheless an above-average hitter in 2015 and 2016 despite xwOBAs that fell between those two extremes:

Ian Kinsler, 2015-2018
Season xwOBA wOBA wRC+
2015 .312 .335 110
2016 .329 .356 123
2017 .334 .313 91
2018 .303 .273 76
SOURCE: Baseball Savant
xwOBA and wOBA via Baseball Savant, wRC+ via FanGraphs

Note that I’ve mixed and matched Statcast’s version of wOBA, which may differ from ours by a couple points, with our version of wRC+; you can still get the idea. One thing that helped Kinsler outdo those xwOBAs in 2015-16 was his knack for infield singles. From 2010-16, he collected 94 of them, an average of 13.4 per season, which ranked 41st in the majors in that span; his 7.3% rate of infield hits per ground ball ranked 134th among the 435 players with at least 1000 PA. In the last two of those seasons, he collected 22 infield singles, tied for the 92nd-highest total in the majors, and his 6.4% rate ranked 158th out of 334 players with at least 400 PA. Since then, however, he’s collected just six infield hits, and his 2.8% rate ranks 436th of 490 players with at least 100 PA. Hmmm.

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Kinsler has a couple of other ominous signs in his splits, small-sample though they may be. Over the past two seasons, he’s really struggled when making contact with four-seam fastballs:

While he’s averaged a 136 wRC+ against the heater for his career, he was at 88 last year and is at 67 this year, which isn’t the direction you want to be heading at his age, to say the least. And while the trend isn’t uniform, he’s definitely struggled against high velocity four-seamers (95-plus mph) to a greater degree over the past two seasons in terms of both actual and expected wOBA:

Kinsler vs. 95+ MPH Four-Seam Fastballs
Year wOBA lg wOBA wOBA dif xWOBA lg xwOBA xwOBA dif
2015 .305 .309 -.004 .315 .311 .004
2016 .337 .315 .022 .353 .316 .037
2017 .223 .312 -.089 .298 .318 -.020
2018 .271 .294 -.023 .297 .318 -.021
SOURCE: Baseball Savant

The other area of concern is his platoon splits. The righty-swinging Kinsler has had his ups and downs against righties over the course of his major-league career, which began in 2006, but last season and this one represent two of the three worst of his career in terms of wRC+. Meanwhile, he’s been been reliably above-average against southpaws, with a wRC+ above 100 every year except his rookie season and this one, which, oof:

Granted, this year’s sample against lefties is just 53 PA, but those numbers are beyond brutal; underlying them is a .240 xwOBA, compared to marks of .340, .328 and .390 in the past three seasons.

Less than two years ago, I debated whether to include a capsule on Kinsler’s Hall of Fame chances alongside one of Pedroia in The Cooperstown Casebook. When I published this at SI.com on July 19, 2016, Kinsler had 50.5 career WAR (Baseball-Reference flavor), 38.5 peak WAR (his best seven seasons), and 44.5 JAWS, which ranked 20th at the position. Pedroia, who is 14 months younger, was at 48.1/40.7/44.4, while the average Hall second baseman was at 69.3/44.5/56.9. Both players had strong 2016 seasons that boosted their peak scores, and with some WAR rejiggering that appears to have had a slight impact on the standards, both are closer to the current standards (69.5/44.5/57.0, with Kinsler 18th at the position (55.5/40.4/48.0) and Pedroia 19th (52.1/42.4/47.3).

While I don’t think the book is closed on either — particularly Pedroia, who has hardware that Kinsler lacks (MVP and Rookie of the Year awards, plus two championship rings), right now, neither looks like a very good bet to reach the standard, and the onus is on both to prove that they can remain productive into their late 30s. I can withhold judgment on Pedrioa, who was slightly above average as a hitter last year, but it’s tough to be optimistic in the case of Kinsler given the extension of last year’s decline. Based on his defense and baserunning (which right now is in the red at -1.5, though he hasn’t lost any speed according to Statcast), he doesn’t even need to be a league-average hitter to be a two-win player, but he may not even be that guy anymore.





Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.

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EasyenoughMember since 2016
8 years ago

If the NL was included the list 2nd base woes would include Danial Murphy, who seems to be having a hard time rehabbing his legs in his contract year.

LHPSU
8 years ago
Reply to  Easyenough

And also getting people to spell his name correctly 😉

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago

Regarding the lineup holes, they should be able to upgrade some of those pretty easily this summer. They can move Cozart to 2nd if they can find an upgrade at 3rd, corner outfielders are surprisingly cheap on the trade market these days, and they should be able to find an upgrade at first base if they want to (the Rays are back below .500, so maybe CJ Cron will be available).

😉

RoyalsFan#14321Member since 2024
8 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Moustakas would be a nice upgrade if Cozart can actually shift to 2B, I think.

bjsguess
8 years ago

I think that makes a lot of sense. Negligible impact on payroll and Moose should come cheap given that Donaldson, Machado, and others may be readily available.

I was so excited about Cozart and Kinsler. Huge bummer that they have both been subpar. Upton is disappointing. Have no idea what has happened to Calhoun. Sadtrombone is right though – at least they have gaps in areas that are relatively easy to fix. If only they could dump the Pujols contract …

CC AFCMember since 2016
8 years ago
Reply to  bjsguess

What is disappointing about Upton? He’s on pace for about 3 War/600 PA. That’s pretty well in line with everything he’s done the last several years. The only way you’re disappointed with Upton is if you expected an exact repeat of last year, which was his best year since 2011

Johnston
8 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

“What is disappointing about Upton? He’s on pace for about 3 War/600 PA.”

Absolutely nothing. A consistently ~3 WAR player is a treasure.

AnonMember since 2025
8 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I don’t know – is Cozart really an upgrade over Kinsler? He isn’t hitting much better and their projections going forward are not that much different. Plus he would be moving a new position where Kinsler is probably the better fielder. Other than covering for Kinsler earlier this year, Cozart hadn’t played 2B since 2009 and even then it was a couple handfuls of games.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  Anon

Well, if they don’t think Kinsler is cooked, then he could platoon with a lefty (Moustakas?) and fill in at SS/2B when needed. If he is cooked, they still don’t necessarily need to find a 2B.

SucramRenrutMember since 2017
8 years ago

I wonder how much of the difficulty older players seem to have recently with the fastball has to do with vision? Your eyes seem to be something you might have a harder time managing/negating their deterioration.

tb.25
8 years ago
Reply to  SucramRenrut

It’d be interesting to research this, coupled with the fact fastball velocity is increasing.

In previous periods, aging players had to overcome both their deteriorating eyesight and bat speed. Now, both those plus added velocity, potentially compounding the effect of aging.

david k
8 years ago
Reply to  SucramRenrut

Watching Paul Goldschmidt play this year has made me wonder about this. And he’s not THAT old.

bananas
8 years ago

It’s a fascinating time for HOF + second base. I really like looking at WAR graphs for this kind of thing.

These graphs get a bit crowded, but I tried to include a few “categories” of players:
– Joe Morgan as the highwater reference
– The “classic greats” of the 2B position – Carew, Whitaker, Alomar, Sandberg. These are outer circle guys, relative to Morgan, but represent some of the best 2B ever.
– Craig Biggio
– The contemporary greats: Utley, Cano, Pedroia, Kinsler

https://www.fangraphs.com/graphsw.aspx?players=860,549,3269,6195,1009179,8370,1011411,1679,1001942,1013846

There’s so many fun things to take away from that tool:

0) Joe Morgan was something special, let’s just get that out of the way.

1) Craig Biggio is more than just “held on for too long for 3000 hits and 1-war seasons” – his career just wasn’t the traditional “early peak” path. He had the best non-Morgan season in the group (9.3 WAR). He accrued a bunch of his value during age 30-34 seasons to make up for a slower start to his career. Chop off the last 5 years of his career and it isn’t so different than Ryne Sandberg. We try to say those 1-WAR seasons were a bad thing, but maybe Kinsler/Pedroia/Cano are a good indication that playing above replacement level at that age is actually impressive. His 10 WAR after age 35 are pretty impressive.

2) Chase Utley peak! I cannot help but feel we did not appreciate how good he was – shadowed a little by Howard and Rollins when in reality he was the centerpiece of those phillies.

3) Lou Whitaker “peak”! 15 seasons with >3 WAR but his best season (6.1) probably wouldn’t even be an MVP contender.

4) Most of these lines all blur together, except Joe Morgan and…. Ian Kinsler.

5) Pedroia basically has this season to avoid HOF purgatory, but he’s looking a lot more Kinsler than Carew at this point.

6) Utley’s first full season was at age 26?!?

7) Second base is such a unique position in baseball because the best second basemen never played second base… they stayed at shortstop.

8) I could play with these charts all day but I should probably do my actual job…

PC1970Member since 2024
8 years ago
Reply to  bananas

Biggio was only really bad his last year, negative 2 WAR. He was basically about a 2 WAR player from age 35 on, until that last season. Did he hold on a year too long to get a milestone? Yes, but, it’s not like he was the 1st guy to do that.

One other amazing thing that is forgotten about him- Spent his 1st 4 years as a catcher before moving to 2B. Then became a GG 2B & then was moved to CF (to accommodate Jeff Kent)… at age 37! Then back to 2B at age 39. Crazy career along the fielding spectrum..2672 games among 2B,C, CF. If he had started out at 2B, he probably would have had 3,000 hits a year or 2 earlier.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  PC1970

Did he really only spend 4 years as a catcher? I still think of him primarily as a catcher, but I also have never lived in Texas or followed the Astros during the time when Biggio played. Up until now, I’ve always been confused when people refer to him as a 2nd baseman…but now I understand that he moved off it much earlier than I thought.

PC1970Member since 2024
8 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Yeah..& it might be closer to 3 1/2. 428 games caught in his career. 1 in his last year, 50 in his rookie year & 377 across 3 full years. In 1990( yr 2), he had 113 games caught..& 50 in the OF, so when he wasn’t catching he was playing the OF.

Other than Pete Rose, he may have one of the odder position distributions on anyone when you look at his career. Moving to CF at age 37 is almost unbelievable. That would be like Ian Kinsler moving to CF next year.

bananas
8 years ago
Reply to  PC1970

Thank you for this. As a now-31 year old fan of an AL team far away from texas i didnt get much exposure to biggio until the later years and i never knew he played anything other than 2B. This is awesome!

socalkdgMember since 2020
8 years ago
Reply to  bananas

Bobby Grich. Bobby Grich. Bobby Grich. Only player I ever had autograph something for me when I was a kid. Put him in the HOF.

bananas
8 years ago
Reply to  socalkdg

That would be a fair addition to these charts in the same vein as lou whitaker, who i snuck in because if we just talk about him as if he’s a hall of famer, eventually the museum will say “wait there must be a paperwork mistake of course he’s in”.

But my goal for the list was name recognition – players who a young(er) baseball fan would know well enough to just _assume_ are in the hall, without question. Of course Sandberg is in the hall, why wouldn’t he be?

Whitaker and Grich, for all their talent, don’t have that particular brand of “It”. To wit:
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=%2Fm%2F01ywgg,%2Fm%2F038j3p,%2Fm%2F01s406,%2Fm%2F0350g8

Hardly scientific, but useful as a broad stroke measure of name value. Look at the geographic breakdown – Grich doesn’t even win in baltimore, and even barely registers in CA.

I don’t know why i’m still typing here. Bobby Grich is probably a worthy HOF. I think a major purpose of the hall is to remember players exactly like bobby grich – talents who would otherwise be forgotten to time. At least we have fangraphs comments section for that!

Baron Samedi
8 years ago

Why do I derive so much pleasure from Mike Trout being on a cursed team?

LHPSU
8 years ago
Reply to  Baron Samedi

When did Mike Trout join the Mariners?

Johnston
8 years ago
Reply to  Baron Samedi

When did Mike Trout become a Met?

ChippersJonesing
8 years ago

Looks to me like he might actually be trying too hard to hit the ball in the air. He’s still got decent speed, but it seems likely that his power is sapped, I’d think he’d be better served by going the other way and lowering his launch angle.

Eskuire
8 years ago

I’m curious if there’s been any change in Kinsler’s swing or his stance that’s screwing with LHP, or his timing against the FB. his FG profile looks pretty much the same across the board with minor fluctuations, throughout the years.

Edit : And as soon as I pop over to the Angels game to see a Kinsler at bat, he jacks a 2 run HR to LF. Never change baseball, never change.

Ruki Motomiya
8 years ago

You know, this just makes me wonder: What the hell is up with Kole Calhoun? Always followed him and liked the guy, but..well. 3 wRC+ says a lot.

Turks TeethMember since 2018
8 years ago

The Angels actually have some intriguing in-house 2b options that it’s shocking they have not tested yet. Eckstein-clone David Fletcher, who was the team standout in spring training, continues to hit .346/.392/.571 from the top to the order for the AAA Bees. Meanwhile, Jose Fernandez, who never got the cup of coffee folks expected with the Dodgers, is delivering a .345 /.412/.562 slash for the same club.

Both guys play 2B. Either guy may be little more than a utility player, but we really do not know until they are tested in the MLB. Clearly Kinsler is not delivering sufficient value to block either player at this point. Give the rookies a shot.

Johnston
8 years ago
Reply to  Turks Teeth

The Dodgers really screwed up releasing Fernandez.

free-range turducken
8 years ago
Reply to  Turks Teeth

Also, they got a guy raking in AAA right now. Name is Sherman Johnson.

DougMember since 2019
8 years ago

Yet another hitter who went to Anaheim to watch his career die, it seems; veterans come in and typically tank. The fact that Andrelton Simmons can apparently make it work there is about the only thing that makes me think there is NOT a curse.

LHPSU
8 years ago

Does Brad Miller seem like the obvious choice now? Not great on defense, but serviceable bat and also has 1B experience.

The_BaseballKid
8 years ago

There is also a trend over the last two seasons of him not pulling the ball as frequently. It is interesting that this is correlated with struggling against the four-seamer. Is it a change in approach, perhaps trying to hit to all fields, that has him hitting four-seamers less effectively? Or is he changing his approach because he can’t turn on the four-seamer as easily as he did in his younger days? I think if it was the former, he’d have figured it out by now. The fact that it has bared out across two seasons indicates he may be losing some quickness with the bat. Perhaps he should sell out for the XBH by sitting on fastballs and just accept the fact that he can’t adjust the way he used to. This is a strategy that has worked out for aging players in the past.