Is This Time Actually Different for the Miami Marlins?

Lewis Brinson’s third go-around in the majors has been as discouraging as his previous ones. (Photo: Keith Allison)

“When somebody says it’s not about the money, it’s about the money.” – H.L. Mencken

The Marlins are a franchise with exactly two modes: brief moments of contention, and long stretches that punish anyone who would want to root for them. Miami is currently in the latter mode. Parity’s alive and well in the National League, with 14 of the league’s 15 teams spending significant time in 2019 playing the role of legitimate wild card contenders. The 15th team was these Marlins, the Star Trek redshirt of the Senior Circuit.

The Setup

The troubling truth for Marlins fans is that most winters’ offseason activity involves guessing who the team will get in return for its best players who are approaching free agency; if the 2018-2019 winter offered less consternation for fans, it’s only because the team had already traded away their entire outfield the year before. Without the ability to replace their lost stars with effective minor league talent — the formula that has kept the Rays frequent contenders despite their part-feigned penury — there was little chance the Marlins would be competitive enough to justify hanging on to J.T. Realmuto. In fairness, a lot of the blame for this is due to the previous regime, which made moves like trading away Chris Paddack and Luis Castillo for Fernando Rodney and Dan Straily.

Two years away from free agency, and with the Marlins unlikely to be competitive during that stretch, it was all but assured that Realmuto, an All-Star for the first time in 2018, would start the season in another city. A week before spring training started, he departed for the Phillies in exchange for Sixto Sanchez, Jorge Alfaro, Will Stewart, and, in a surprising move for a Marlins team to make, the right to spend more money in the form of international bonus space.

Outside of the Realmuto trade, it was a quiet offseason. Most of the team’s winter action consisted of picking up veterans to fill the gaps they couldn’t internally, with the most notable players of this type being Neil Walker, Sergio Romo, and Curtis Granderson.

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One minor trade turned out to be one of the team’s cleverer notions in recent years: the pickup of minor league reliever Nick Anderson from the Minnesota for utility infielder Brian Schales. At 28, Anderson wasn’t a traditional prospect. From a small school and with a few troubling incidents on his record (an assault charge and drunk-driving), Anderson wasn’t drafted by the Brewers until the 32nd round in 2012. He didn’t sign and spent the next few years struggling in indie ball. In 2015, years removed from his problems with alcohol, the Twins signed him to his first professional contract at 25 and he slowly advanced through the minors, pitching well in relief. Both ZiPS and Steamer saw Anderson as a sub-four ERA reliever in 2019, though Steamer gets the win here with a more optimistic projection than ZiPS.

The Projection

Coming into 2019, ZiPS thought the Marlins were the favorite to be the worst team in baseball, with a median projected record of 56-106. ZiPS only projected a single player in the entire organization, 2018 rookie Brian Anderson, to be worth 2 WAR in 2019. The pitching projections weren’t quite as bleak as that may sound, with Pablo Lopez, Caleb Smith, and Jordan Yamamoto all getting at least near 2 WAR with innings totals in the 160 range. There was no such mitigating factor among the hitting projections, with ZiPS only projected Anderson, Granderson, and Starlin Castro with an OPS above .700.

The Results

It might be a bit surprising given that the Marlins are 51-93, but there were still positive developments for Miami in 2019. The team was predictably dreadful in most areas, but they are now a strong favorite to beat their preseason projected record. The Marlins were saved from the tier of oblivion the Tigers reside in by some promising performances from the starting pitching, which hasn’t been that much worse than league-average for the season. Caleb Smith’s first-half 3.50 ERA has sagged to 4.11, but ZiPS believes that his 28 homers allowed is eight more than you would expect from his advanced hit data. Sandy Alcantara’s been near-brilliant for stretches, and with stuff much better than his 6.9 K/9 suggests, there’s some realistic upside here (though the Marlins failed to solve the similar riddle of Nate Eovaldi).

The Marlins got a real prospect in return for Sergio Romo in Lewin Diaz and as great a story as Nick Anderson’s path to the majors is, Jesus Sanchez is probably more important to the team’s future than a reliever already nearing 30 or innings-eater Trevor Richards.

Run-scoring has been a less encouraging story in 2019; the team’s wRC+ of 77 (tied with the Tigers), ranks as one of the bottom performances of the 21st century, “bested” only by the 2013 Marlins and 2004 Diamondbacks. Lewis Brinson’s third go-around in the majors has been as discouraging as the previous ones; he’s hitting .182/.238/.241 with no homers and has actually seen his season OPS drop after a three-month stint with Triple-A New Orleans. The Marlins haven’t been rewarded for finding playing time for Isan Díaz, either, with Díaz only hitting .158/.260/.237 since his August debut. Miami’s been more successful finding future players who can be cogs on a competitive team — Jon Berti, Garrett Cooper, Harold Ramirez — but the team has yet to find hitters to build around.

What Comes Next?

The Marlins’ challenges on the field are significant, but the most difficult battle they face is one of reputation. The team’s history before the Sherman group’s purchase is dominated by two owners — H. Wayne Huizenga and Jeff Loria (John Henry only briefly owned the team) — who couldn’t have done a better job stamping out a nascent fanbase if they tried. The team won two World Series titles, but both of those championship teams were stripped down for parts like a stolen car at a chop shop. Huizenga’s tale of financial woe was peppered with half-truths at best and Loria’s promises to invest in the team if only the taxpayers built him an expensive new ballpark evaporated as soon as the ink was dry on the contracts.

It would be unfair to group Sherman with these two owners at this point, but it’s hard to give the new ownership much rope when they started their tenure by not bothering to communicate with Giancarlo Stanton, and changing stories about whether or not Stanton was traded for financial reasons (he totally was). The team is doing a lot of things that a normal team does in rebuilding, but they’ve done nothing to answer the biggest question: what happens after the rebuild is successful? Will the team invest in the franchise’s continued success where previous owners failed to or will this simply be the latest incident of the team’s limited fanbase having the rug pulled out from under them?

Given the Marlin’s history, any pleas for fans to come to the games so that the owners can invest in the team will likely fall on deaf ears. Baseball is one of the few industries in which business owners are generally able to plead with their customers to buy their product now so that there can be a better product in the future. Can you imagine building a restaurant and telling people “If you buy our terrible food, we won’t have to serve canned vegetables next month!” I’m no car expert, but I don’t believe Ford ever announced that you should buy a half-finished 2019 model so they can afford to give you a 2020 model you’ll actually want to drive.

That’s the fundamental challenge the Marlins face and it’s one so large that it almost renders whatever trades or signings they make irrelevant in comparison. The team will have to build a consistent winner and then somehow convince a damaged fanbase that this time is different. I’m not convinced the team has a creative enough front office, or the needed willingness to invest in an uncertain future, to pull this off, but I’d be happy to be wrong. I still believe you can’t fix the Marlins in Miami after all that’s happened, but if Sherman and Jeter succeed, it would be one of the greatest comeback stories in sports history.

The Absitively, Posilutely, Way-Too-Early ZiPS Projection – Isan Díaz

There’ll be no more advanced Lewis Brinson projections in this space, as they’re rapidly becoming cruel. As mentioned above, Díaz’s debut has been disappointing, but he hasn’t been overmatched to the same degree that Brinson has. The results aren’t there, but I find it a positive that his basic plate discipline numbers haven’t collapsed from the minors even while he’s struggled. His passivity has been concerning, as he has the 12th-lowest zone-swing percentage among players with 100 PA (out of 436 players). That’s not a death knell in itself, but a player like David Fletcher can survive being very, very selective (48.5% zone-swing) by also being elite at actually making contact, which Diaz is not. Diaz’s pedigree and the small sample size still leaves me optimistic that coaching can iron out some of the wrinkles in his game.

ZiPS Projection – Isan Díaz
Year BA OBP SLG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB OPS+ DR WAR
2020 .238 .320 .390 474 67 113 21 3 15 59 55 134 7 92 -1 1.6
2021 .239 .322 .397 461 66 110 22 3 15 59 55 134 6 94 -1 1.7
2022 .236 .324 .402 458 67 108 22 3 16 59 58 137 6 96 0 1.9
2023 .235 .325 .400 455 67 107 21 3 16 59 59 137 6 96 0 1.9
2024 .232 .323 .394 444 65 103 21 3 15 57 58 135 6 94 -1 1.6
2025 .234 .326 .395 415 60 97 19 3 14 52 55 122 5 95 -2 1.5

I wouldn’t call ZiPS excited about Díaz yet, but then, the system has generally been a skeptic (it only saw his 2018 as a .196/.289/.323 translation) and this is the first year he projects as a league-average player long-term. Even with the struggles in the majors, ZiPS has Díaz’s season so far at .252/.331/.435 when you combine the translation and his actual major league performance. The projections don’t see Díaz as a star but the Marlins will need young, average players, too.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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Cave Dameron
6 years ago

No, I don’t think so.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 years ago

I saw the title and immediately starting thinking of Sally Bowles crooning: “Maybe this time, I’ll be lucky…” But, much like Sally Bowles, the Marlins just can’t help sabotaging good things. The team is as far from contention as any other team in major league baseball, at the same level as the Orioles, but without anyone who seems to know what they’re doing and the unwillingness to spend money to win games. They have some good looking fourth starters with team control, but it’s hard to see a path to contention during their current years of team control unless some of their power guys with contact issues pan out (Chisholm, Harrison, Brinson, and Sanchez), poor Sixto stays healthy, and Bleday develops as expected. This is going to be a bad team for a while.

Psychic... Powerless...
6 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Showing your age with the Sally Bowles reference!

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 years ago

Sally Bowles is timeless. The character was first published in fiction in 1937. 1937! Is it that I am that old, or that the character is a woman for all eras?

Psychic... Powerless...
6 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Sorry if I offended.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 years ago

Oh no, not at all. I was just having fun.

Psychic... Powerless...
6 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Me too. My thinking was: I’m not aware of any portrayals of her more recent than Cabaret, and most people my age (51) haven’t seen that movie.

CC AFCMember since 2016
6 years ago

On the bright side, at least there’s a cap on how long Miami fans will be forced to suffer a terrible baseball team, since the whole damn city is going to turn into Atlantis in the near future

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  CC AFC

Miami probably won’t be underwater for another 20-40 years. Plenty of time for bad baseball before the city sinks beneath the waves, if the team even lasts in Miami that long.

mike sixelMember since 2016
6 years ago

Didn’t they trade a good good pitcher, with multiple years of control? For, what?

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
6 years ago
Reply to  mike sixel

Zac Gallen for Jazz Chisholm. A bit of a head scratcher, but the Marlins took their shot and got, in their minds anyway, their SS of the future

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
6 years ago

It is of some interest to note that a SS with a very similar profile to Chisholm, and was traded for Craig Kimbrel, has just been called up by the Padres, as a pitcher!! Javy Guerra, a key part of the Kimbrel trade that also brought such mediocre performers as Margot, Asuaje and Allen is now trying to throw the ball since he couldn’t hit it.

CC AFCMember since 2016
6 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

This is not of interest (or accurate). Guerra was not similar to Chisholm, nor would it even be interesting if one player who didn’t work out was actually similar at one point. I’ll chalk it up to homer colored glasses

TheGarrettCooperFanClub
6 years ago

Interesting team, they’re definitely in a much better position for the future despite nearly all the prospects in the Yelich deal not working out as of yet (Brinson…yikes, Diaz maybe is an average player, Yamamoto can get better and Harrison is still a question mark who finally had a strong season in the high minors, albeit with the juiced AAA ball). They’ve added a lot of talent to the farm this year, and a lot of the pitching looks good. The problem is getting bats, Jesus Sanchez is a nice start and Jazz Chisholm could be the SS of the future, although it cost them what looks to be a great pitcher in Gallen. At least they’re more interesting than they were a year ago, I would rather be in their situation over some others. I think the Miami situation will be a mess for a while, at least until they start to win (if they ever).

Shalesh
6 years ago

FV40+ Zac Gallen is a “great” pitcher? 2 WAR rookie season is nice and the 5+ years of control is valuable for the Dbacks, but I’d rather see Dan provide a Zips projection for FV55 Jazz Chisholm than for Isan Diaz.

Looking like they fleeced the Yankees by dumping Stanton’s $300M contract on them.

They’re probably on the Royals’ timeline — relevant again in 2023, a smidge behind the Tigers.

Lauren WalkerMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  Shalesh

A 2 WAR rookie season…. in 75 innings. Underlying numbers all say he will regress, but credit where it’s due, he has had a fantastic season.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  Shalesh

I can’t imagine the how the Marlins are going to be relevant in 2023 unless they pick very, very well at the top of the draft and are guys who will move quickly. The system is loaded with guys who have rated highly on a prospect list of some kind at some point, but who have massive red flags on their profile. Chisholm, Sanchez, and Harrison are exactly the sorts of guys that rebuilding teams stockpile because they’re what other teams are willing to trade. Connor Scott, who I used to love, is starting to worry me a lot. Nick Neidert’s gone backwards. Devers has zero power. Jorge Guzman has gone from “might be starter, might be reliever” to “might be a reliever in US, might never crack the big leagues.” They do have some good guys there (Sixto, Bleday, Misner, Diaz, and Lewin Diaz), but none of those guys are guaranteed either. And they don’t have anyone to trade at this point to bolster the system, and they won’t spend any extra money to get guys.

Re: Zac Gallen–he looks awesome. That’s a 2-win rookie season in about 40% of a season. On the other hand, the ZiPs projection on Chisholm is going to be ghastly, because guys who strike out that much in the minors have a really poor track record. That said, I do like that the Marlins were willing to trade a guy with a ton of team control for a guy who could, theoretically, line up with a window of contention, since Miami’s return to contention looks so far in the future.

frankMember since 2025
6 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

” Chisholm, Sanchez, and Harrison are exactly the sorts of guys that rebuilding teams stockpile because they’re what other teams are willing to trade.” Agree totally. And I don’t what the fuss is with Jesus Sanchez, he lacks plate discipline and is already 22.

jtricheyMember since 2021
6 years ago
Reply to  Shalesh

He said “Good good” not great, whatever that means, but he also didn’t name names. Maybe he meant Chris Paddack or Luis Castillo?

Paul G.Member since 2016
6 years ago

I suspect there are many trades that after the first year looked like “darn it, we gave up a really good young pitcher”, followed by said pitcher suffering injuries and/or other reversals. Be careful judging these sorts of trades after the first year.

johansantana17Member since 2026
6 years ago
Reply to  Paul G.

A player who has already had great success in the MLB has a better chance of being a successful MLB player in the future than a player who has a 34% strikeout rate in AA

snapperMember since 2019
6 years ago

Since they’ll just trade anyone decent once they start making any money, I’d say no, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

LightenUpFGMember since 2018
6 years ago

“It might be a bit surprising given that the Marlins are 51-93…”

I was more on the side of being surprised they won more than 20 games and didn’t lose 120+. With Miggy Cabrera, Giancarlo Stanton and Hanley Ramirez definitely not walking through that door anytime soon, it looks like we should all check back in a decade to see if they’ve broken .500 yet.

maumanntsMember since 2022
6 years ago
Reply to  LightenUpFG

The Tigers are closing in on 120 losses with a broken-down Miguel Cabrera and just as many questions about their farm system’s lack of offense. I think the race will be to see if either team gets to .500 before 2030.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
6 years ago
Reply to  maumannts

Yeah, but Detroit’s top 2 pitching prospects are as good as any in baseball. And although current ownership isn’t willing to spend like the old ownership, I bet you anything it’s willing to spend a lot more than Miami. I like their chances a lot better than Miami.

dewelar
6 years ago

“The 15th team was these Marlins, the Star Trek redshirt of the Senior Circuit.”

I think this is one of the few times I’ve actually seen someone successfully insult redshirts.

montrealMember since 2022
6 years ago

Zac Gallen for Jazz Chisholm is highway robbery by Arizona. Take a look at what Zac Gallen did in AAA this year. And he follows that up with just as many strikeouts in the majors, and even less home runs. Yes his walks went up, but I bet they come right back down next year. He has the makings of an excellent starting pitcher for years to come. And Jazz Chisolm has a reputation…..but not much else. He is hitting .204 in the minors. And striking out 34% of the time. That is flat out horrible. He is young and will improve, but he will need a HUGE improvement to be a quality hitter.

roncoxMember since 2017
6 years ago

They are guaranteed to be in Miami until at least 2047. The new ownership had to agree to the non-relocation agreement as a precondition of owning the team. They are not going anywhere, have had arguably the best first year player draft in all of baseball this year, and as a fan, I have plenty of patience. We are looking at 2021 as a step forward and 2022 to be playoff competitive if even some of their key position players develop.. I like the overall direction, because they have never accumulated as much breadth and depth of talent in their system as they have now.

Jan Moffett
6 years ago

Just when I thought Marlins Park couldn’t be more depressing…Christian broke his knee there. That place has bad mojo, and yes, I am being completely irrational. 😉

rhswanzey
6 years ago

Marco Rubio’s unpaid intern recently posted a promotional Rubio football for sale in advance of the NFL kickoff, and I remarked that Miami was about the only market a congressperson could pull that off in. I look forward to the Rubio 2024 baseball that will be hitting shelves next March.