Jacob deGrom’s Run Support Is As Lacking as You Think

Jacob deGrom was his usual sterling self on Wednesday night, striking out nine Red Sox batters against no homers, one walk, and just three hits over his six innings of work. For his troubles, the Mets dropped the game 1-0, leaving deGrom with his second loss of 2021. A month into the season, deGrom now has the same number of losses as total earned runs allowed. He’s upped his Cy Young-worthy game to such a degree that allowing a single run nearly doubled his ERA, from 0.31 to 0.51. And with the Mets’ bats not cooperating, he’s even tried to help his own case, with hits in four of his five starts for a .462/.462/.538 line, though that performance might not continue. It certainly feels like of all the pitchers who have their health, deGrom is the unluckiest in baseball.

The Mets right-hander has never had a poor season, but he’s kicked his career into a new gear in recent years. Since the start of 2018, he sports a very healthy 1.99 ERA, a 2.21 FIP, and nearly 12 strikeouts per game. His total of 20.8 WAR is four more than the next-best pitcher, Gerrit Cole. And though he’s on the wrong side of 30, deGrom has even seen his velocity increase. While that’s not unheard of — Charlie Morton is the most obvious recent example that my brain trudges up — it’s not typical. If the season ended right now, he’d be the only starting pitcher to finish the season with an average fastball velocity of 99 mph of those with 20 innings thrown in a season since 2002. Not bad for a guy who broke into the league averaging 93!

Despite all that good performance, one of baseball’s cruelest stats, pitcher win-loss, has shown little mercy, leaving deGrom with a 27-21 record that looks more like what you’d expect from a good No. 3 starter than an ace. Is deGrom really the unluckiest pitcher in the game, at least when it comes to team support?

Baseball-Reference tracks “cheap wins” and “tough losses.” Basically, it’s losses in quality starts versus wins in non-quality starts. DeGrom made it to the majors in 2014, which seems like an appropriate cutoff to see who has the most tough losses.

Cheap Wins, Tough Losses Since 2014
Rank Player Cheap Wins Tough Losses
1 Madison Bumgarner 18 28
2 Jacob deGrom 7 27
3 Andrew Cashner 7 26
4 Rick Porcello 19 25
5 José Quintana 8 24
6 Max Scherzer 12 23
7 Julio Teheran 9 22
8 Tanner Roark 21 21
9 Sonny Gray 9 21
10 Chris Archer 11 20
11 Justin Verlander 10 20
12 Chris Sale 8 20
13 Mike Leake 6 20
14 R.A. Dickey 10 19
15 James Shields 8 19
16 Gerrit Cole 14 18
17 Lance Lynn 14 18
18 Trevor Bauer 12 18
19 Wade Miley 21 17
20 Dallas Keuchel 11 17
21 Tyson Ross 10 17
22 Jeff Samardzija 8 17
23 Zack Greinke 13 16
24 Francisco Liriano 12 16
25 Johnny Cueto 12 16
26 David Price 10 16
27 Clayton Kershaw 7 16
SOURCE: Baseball-Reference

Madison Bumgarner actually just edges out deGrom in tough losses, but he at least has 11 more cheap wins as compensation. J.A. Happ, who at just 11 tough losses was spared placement in these rankings, leads baseball with a whopping 27 cheap wins since 2014. And Jaime Barria, who has just 44 career starts and zero tough losses, has more cheap wins than deGrom, with eight.

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There are many ways to measure poor luck, so let’s look at another: win-loss record vs. expected record, based on runs allowed and team run support. Basically, using the “Pythagorean” theorem — air quotes here because no triangles — I re-estimated every pitcher’s expected win total if their teams had scored their average number of runs per game rather than the team’s actual performance. We have this data going back to 2002, which seemed a logical cutoff mark and should capture every active pitcher. As I’m ranking pitchers by most missing wins per 30 games started, I’ve limited it to pitchers with 100 total starts.

Expected vs. Actual Wins, 2002-21
Rank Player Actual Wins Expected Wins Difference GS Wins per 30 GS
1 Ryan Franklin 27 38.9 -11.9 106 -3.37
2 Jacob deGrom 72 88.9 -16.9 187 -2.71
3 Shelby Miller 37 48.5 -11.5 132 -2.61
4 Jason Johnson 35 47.3 -12.3 142 -2.60
5 Drew Pomeranz 41 51.6 -10.6 140 -2.27
6 Kelvim Escobar 54 63.6 -9.6 127 -2.27
7 Jarrod Washburn 79 96.7 -17.7 235 -2.26
8 Kevin Gausman 47 59.2 -12.2 169 -2.17
9 Kerry Wood 38 45.2 -7.2 101 -2.14
10 Hiroki Kuroda 79 93.4 -14.4 211 -2.05
11 Yu Darvish 73 85.6 -12.6 187 -2.02
12 Kyle Hendricks 70 81.7 -11.7 178 -1.97
13 Matt Cain 104 124.4 -20.4 331 -1.85
14 Chris Archer 60 73.0 -13.0 211 -1.85
15 John Smoltz 50 57.2 -7.2 120 -1.80
16 Ben Sheets 83 96.4 -13.4 225 -1.79
17 Tanner Roark 71 81.3 -10.3 184 -1.68
18 Hyun Jin Ryu 류현진 60 67.8 -7.8 142 -1.65
19 Jhoulys Chacín 75 87.4 -12.4 226 -1.65
20 Carlos Carrasco 81 91.6 -10.6 195 -1.63

By this estimate, if the Mets just scored runs the way they do for their other pitchers, it would add roughly 17 wins to deGrom’s career line, shifting his record to a healthier 89-34. That’s the second-most in baseball behind Ryan Franklin during his years with Seattle. Franklin didn’t pitch well in those Mariners seasons, but his 30-49 record was much worse than you would have expected from a pitcher with a 98 ERA+. If we consider only those pitchers we think of as stars (sorry, Ryan), deGrom comes out on top (or is it the bottom?) here.

Back in March, my colleague Jay Jaffe wrote about deGrom’s path to Cooperstown, so we don’t have to go too deep into his Hall of Fame chances. But given his blazing start to 2021, it’s worth revisiting his rest-of-career projections.

ZiPS Projection – Jacob deGrom
Year W L S ERA G GS IP H ER HR BB SO ERA+ WAR
2021 15 6 0 2.30 30 30 196.0 139 50 13 39 268 157 7.4
2022 13 5 0 2.58 28 28 177.7 133 51 18 38 230 164 5.8
2023 12 5 0 2.73 25 25 158.0 121 48 16 34 196 155 4.9
2024 11 5 0 2.90 25 25 155.3 123 50 17 34 186 146 4.5
2025 10 5 0 2.87 23 23 144.3 114 46 15 32 173 148 4.2
2026 9 5 0 2.96 20 20 127.7 103 42 14 29 151 143 3.6
2027 8 4 0 3.15 18 18 111.3 93 39 13 26 130 134 2.9
2028 7 4 0 3.28 16 16 96.0 83 35 12 23 110 129 2.4
Total 85 39 0 3.56 185 185 1166.3 908 361 119 255 1443 147 35.7

If he were a free agent at the end of the season, ZiPS projects a seven-year, $200 million deal for deGrom. Not a bad score for a pitcher in his declining years. Luckily, his 2019 extension, which will net him $96.5 million from 2021-23 if his team option is exercised, at least ensures deGrom won’t be grossly underpaid for his contributions, even if his win total lags behind what he deserves.

deGrom’s career projection has now edged just over 70 WAR, with an additional 11 wins. Unfortunately, that still leaves him with just 157 wins, a low total for a Hall of Famer and one that voters have tended to look askance at. There’s good news there, however. While pitcher wins still hold sway over Hall of Fame voters, deGrom won Cy Young awards in 10- and 11-win seasons, suggesting that some number of scribes, including many who do not yet meet the 10-year BBWAA qualification for Hall voting, were willing to overlook his paltry wins total when awarding him one of the game’s top honors. Fifteen years from now, when deGrom lands on a Hall ballot, more of these voters will be the ones passing judgment. I’m four years away from my ballot, and I would absolutely vote for the pitcher in the above projection.

It’s a little soon to worry too much about whether Jacob deGrom finishes his career in Cooperstown. For now, it would be nice if the Mets could score enough runs so that he can finish his awesome starts with a win in the box score.





Dan Szymborski is a senior writer for FanGraphs and the developer of the ZiPS projection system. He was a writer for ESPN.com from 2010-2018, a regular guest on a number of radio shows and podcasts, and a voting BBWAA member. He also maintains a terrible Twitter account at @DSzymborski.

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sadtromboneMember since 2020
5 years ago

The sign that deGrom had posted in the clubhouse simply read “.462/.462/.538.”

He scanned his teammates with a look of death. Not a word of them made a sound. Not a single one made eye contact. He glared furiously.

Then, the batboy coughed.

That was all the encouragement he needed. He took a deep breath, and said “DO I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING AROUND HERE!?!?!”

kylerkelton
5 years ago

I know we’ve moved past pitcher wins and losses as way of evaluation but I’d be curious to hear player’s thoughts on them. It feels like a type of thing that a pitcher would value. Seeing “Win” in the box score next to your name probably brings a good bit of satisfaction. But I would be curious to hear pitcher thoughts on it.

MoateMember since 2022
5 years ago
Reply to  kylerkelton

Whenever players get interviewed it’s always “winning games is the only thing that matters”. I think guys with lots of Ws put value on it but guys with great stuff and shit support are likely less inclined to care if they get the win. Most hyper-competitive people I’ve met go out of their way to ignore any indications of success and focus instead on the mistakes that need to be eliminated. I would wager many MLB pitchers feel similarly, but if you interviewed a guy after he gets a W, I’m sure he’s not going to be upset the team won.

If you get into the mindset of a starting pitcher caring about individual wins as a stat is pretty useless. It doesn’t do a good job of indicating your performance (see “cheap wins” above), it doesn’t technically indicate your team’s performance any more than winning the game does, so why worry about it? I have plenty of projects at work that get completed on time, under budget, and that I had very little contribution to. If I spent all my time gloating about those I’d get distracted from the projects I do have to focus on.

TL;dr- I’m sure if you asked 100 pitchers, you’d probably get 100 answers.

RobM
5 years ago
Reply to  kylerkelton

We’ve moved past pitcher wins to some degree, but arbitration hearings still use pitcher wins as one of the approved categories, which means pitchers’ salaries are still partially based on starting pitcher wins. What a player sets as his base during arbitration impacts his salary in every subsequent year. Considering how teams are doing everything they can to minimize the value of starters, I’m a bit surprised the MLBPA hasn’t attempted to either expand the stats used in arbitration, or even tried to lower the 5-inning minimum for starters to earn a win. With bullpen usage increasing, lowering the standard to four innings, or maybe starting the fifth inning, might be beneficial to players, and even managers who sometimes try to get that extra out for their starters in the 5th.

MLB has changed how they deep they allow starters to pitch, but they’ve never updated the 5-inning minimum.

SæderMember since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  RobM

I know exceedingly little, but I imagine that most of the winning front offices partially or completely ignore W-L when scouting for trades and free agents.

Of course, if they are then turning around and using W-L as a metric for arbitration, boy, that’d really be eating your cake and having it too.

*I have absolutely no clue what actually happens, so this is just a hypothetical

** I guess W-L can swing either way. A mediocre arb-player on a high scoring team could be getting those “cheap wins” and making a case for higher pay… but is the club forced to pay the higher value? Or can they choose to walk away from the deal, while players have no options if they come out undervalued?

teufelshuffle
5 years ago
Reply to  RobM

I’ve always thought the official scorer should determine the win. A reliever who throws 3 scoreless in a tied game has a better claim than the closer who blew the lead right before the team rallied back.

Mahoney
5 years ago

Over the last 3 calendar years, despite that 1.99 ERA, deGrom is tied for 29th in the majors in losses, but only tied for 36th in wins.

catmanwayne
5 years ago

I’m surprised that Felix Hernandez isn’t even on here. It sure as hell felt like he lost way more games than he should have.

Goob
5 years ago
Reply to  catmanwayne

They have very similar Run Support / IP over both their careers and peak runs.

bmd15Member since 2020
5 years ago

Phenomenal piece Dan!

NathanMember since 2018
5 years ago

deGrom is the reincarnation of the deadball era, his presence creates a low run scoring environment.

teufelshuffle
5 years ago
Reply to  Nathan

Deadball era starters didn’t routinely strike out 13.

SucramRenrutMember since 2017
5 years ago

Interesting stat from last night’s telecast that DeGrom, Pedro and Maddux are the only pitchers in the live-ball era to have a less than 2.00 ERA over a string of 80 starts. Heck, he might extend that to 100 this year.

MorboTheAnnihilator
5 years ago
Reply to  SucramRenrut

Bob Gibson would like a word with your statistics. His era of 1.95 over 93 starts from 1967 through 1969 would disagree.

jackbauerMember since 2025
5 years ago
Reply to  SucramRenrut

Shoddy reporting from the broadcast team. Clayton Kershaw had a 1.99 ERA in 164 starts (!) from June 2012 to April 2018. What an egregious miss by them.

radivel
5 years ago

To continue the bad luck theme:

Danny Jansen, currently with a batting average of .049, has a BABIP of .063. Since 1920, there have been more than 37,000 seasons in which a batter (non pitcher) has batted 40+ times, and Jansen currently ranks 6th on that list. Every time Danny connects with the ball, it finds a glove. He even knocked the glove off the fielder once, and still didn’t get a hit.

Here:
https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=np&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=40&type=8&season=2021&month=0&season1=1920&ind=1&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=1920-01-01&enddate=2021-12-31&sort=13,a

Error Alert: #4 (1929 Tony Kaufmann) on the list has some sort of statistical error, as it says he’s scored magically 18 runs without getting on base nearly that often.

BenZobrist4MVP
5 years ago
Reply to  radivel

Maybe Kaufmann was a pinch-runner?

j_co88
5 years ago
Reply to  radivel

I just looked up Kaufmann on BBRef. He was primarily a pitcher through 1928. In 1929, he didn’t pitch at all, but instead was primarily a pinch runner. He entered 24 games that year as a pinch runner (out of 39 total games).

Mahoney
5 years ago
Reply to  radivel

Jansen needs to suck it up and find a way to make his wRC+ higher than his BABIP*, like Jordan Luplow’s doing this year:

Luplow’s 2021 BABIP: .152
Luplow’s 2021 wRC+: 158

(*without the decimal point)

tung_twista
5 years ago

The thing about deGrom is not just that he himself is not getting the W as a pitcher,
the team is not winning those games, either.
Since 2018, the Mets are 38-43 (47%) on deGrom starts where he averaged ERA 1.99 on 6.5 IP/G.
They are 160-161 (50%) on non-deGrom games where other starters have averaged ERA 4.42 on 5.3IP/G.
MLB has a long history, but I doubt there has been another example as extreme as this.

sogoodlooking
5 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

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bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  tung_twista

That is the stat that always amazes me the most. The article, while it is very informative, doesn’t make it clear that deGrom has also been the victim of the Mets bullpen, in what seems to be an exceptionally high percentage of times, when he left with a lead.

MikeD
5 years ago

Fortunately for deGrom, he can take matters into his own hands if he gets frustrated enough by his team continuing to not score runs for him. No, I don’t mean through his own hitting, but he has an optout after next season. Short of injury, he’ll trip that. While I do expect him to stay with the Mets, deGrom and his agent know they have tremendous leverage. Not only is he the best starter in the game, but the Mets have the richest owner, one who grew up a Mets fan and watched Tom Seaver be traded away. That won’t be happening on Cohen’s watch, so deGrom should be looking at an AAV well north of $40M on a new deal that will take him through his age-40 season. That’ll be the risk, but he’s not slowing down, and obviously, if not a bit mysteriously, he is ageing well with his velocity continuing to increase. Perhaps a righty version of Randy Johnson who established his HOF career in his 30s, and kept pitching into his 40s. My main concern would be he had TJS once before, which on average lasts about 8 years. Couple in his increased velocity and how that often leads to TJS, and there is some fear that a second TJS is a possibility.

Beyond that, not surprised at all to see Hiroki Kuroda make the top ten list for expected vs. actual wins. Despite spending his career with two very good teams–the Dodgers and Yankees–he often seemed to be battling in a 3-2 game late. Both good teams regularly seemed challenged scoring at their regular rate when he was on the mound.

RobM
5 years ago
Reply to  MikeD

Right. DeGrom pitching for any team but the Mets seems unlikely, but he’ll be costly. I wonder if the Mets will try and nail this down before he reaches that opt out, maybe this coming off season. If they do it as an extension, would that lower the AAV for the Mets?

NathanielMember since 2016
5 years ago

I knew Matt Cain would show up in one of those tables.

montrealMember since 2022
5 years ago

Reminds me of Bob Gibson in ’68. He had a 1.12 ERA and lost NINE games. Not just a no decision, but he lost !! Then he pitches a shutout with a record 17Ks in Game 1 of the World Series, wins again in game 4 and then has a shutout in game 7 until Curt Flood misjudges a fly ball and he loses game 7.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  montreal

Four of those losses came in consecutive starts in May by the scores of 3-2, 1-0, 2-0 and 3-1 dropping his record to 3-5. 1968 was a year that baseball would rather forget and it looks like the game is heading in that direction again.

RobM
5 years ago
Reply to  montreal

A simply incredibly year by Gibson, although he lost nine games because in the Year of the Pitcher there were many starters putting up crazy low ERAs. The league ERA *average* across all teams was 2.98. That’s bonkers! A 3-2 game would be considered high scoring. Too bad peak Koufax wasn’t around in 1968 or still pitching. We may have had a starter with a sub-1.00 ERA. Gibson came close. Seven starters had ERA’s in the 1 range. 49 starters…49!!…had ERAs in the 2 range. Catfish Hunter that year had an off season, pitching 234 innings with a 3.34 ERA. That was an 83 ERA+. Significantly below average. My point is Gibson was the best pitcher in the game that year, but the ball was so dead he could go out there and end up losing 1-0 because of an error. It’s great to look back on it historically, but I wouldn’t want to live through a season where every game might have 2 runs scored.

RMD4
5 years ago

It can’t just be a coincidence anymore, right? I’d say it’s a mix of both this being a self-fulfilling prophecy of this getting in the Mets’ hitters’ heads and that DeGrom (who’ll probably be known as the GOAT one day) bringing out the very best in counterpart on the mound.

bosoxforlifeMember since 2016
5 years ago
Reply to  RMD4

Pedro is the GOAT. His 1999 season is the greatest ever and he did it when offensive players were juiced instead of the ball. Taking nothing away from deGrom he is doing it while offense is at a very low point.

averagejoe15Member since 2024
5 years ago
Reply to  bosoxforlife

If you look at both ERA- and FIP-, deGrom needs a couple more stellar seasons to even get close to Pedro’s run of excellence. Pedro ran sub-60s (arbitrary but highlights the truly elite seasons) in both ERA- and FIP- in 7 total years, including 5 in a row from ’99-03. He was also putting up FIP- in the 30s a couple times (which is absolutely ridiculous for an SP).

deGrom’s best season to date is a 45 ERA-, 49 FIP- in 2018. And while he’s going on his 4th straight year in the sub-60 realm (2019 was close enough), last year was a partial year and we don’t know how this year will unfold yet. Though it is looking as though it could be Pedro level special.

deGrom is certainly a once in a generation talent, but he’s also still a couple stellar years away from matching peak RJ, who himself never quite reached the peak that Pedro did by ERA- and FIP-.

It’s almost unbelievable how closely Pedro and RJ’s peaks overlapped. What a time to be a fan. Let’s just take deGrom while we have him.

Greg SimonsMember since 2016
5 years ago

deGrom has so few cheap wins because he rarely doesn’t earn a quality start.

Also, in the ZIPS projection table, his total ERA is higher than in any of the individual seasons. That… can’t be.

NATS FanMember since 2018
5 years ago

I know this is a crazy thing for a college professor to say, but to me luck has always been tangible. Like its something some have and some do not. It has been said said it was better to be lucky than be good. That exists all over our society. Sometimes very hard working and talented people lose out to luck, while lazy or less talented people win thanks to luck.

I would be interested in finding out who has been the luckiest starter in the same time frame as above

I notice Cashner on the above list. He seemed to be very unlucky for a while, but he tried to pitch longer and harder when luck went against him and I think lead in part to blowing out his arm.

apiratefan
5 years ago

There’s… a lot wrong with that ZiPS table. More Games started than Games, 2021 he has a higher ERA than 2022 despite fewer ER AND More IP, the total ERA is 3.56, etc.

Just a heads up – interesting insights on the rest of the article

HELTON
5 years ago

I like using OPS+ (allowed/against) for pitchers, which I have to calculate myself since it’s not listed anywhere. I can only calculate OPS+ from 1916 to the present for starters, when bbref.com first provides opponents’ batting stats vs. individual pitchers. This means I can’t calculate the career OPS+ for Mathewson, Big Train, etc.

But, for the ones that I can calculate OPS+ for, deGrom’s career OPS+ is tied for 3rd best of all time with Koufax at 137. Kershaw’s #1 at 143 while Pedro’s #2 at 141. Lefty Grove is #4 at 133.

deGrom has been a remarkably consistent and awesome pitcher – with no wins to show for his efforts.