JAWS and the 2019 Hall of Fame Ballot: Jeff Kent

The following article is part of Jay Jaffe’s ongoing look at the candidates on the BBWAA 2019 Hall of Fame ballot. Originally written for the 2014 election at SI.com, it has been updated to reflect recent voting results as well as additional research. For a detailed introduction to this year’s ballot, and other candidates in the series, use the tool above; an introduction to JAWS can be found here. For a tentative schedule, and a chance to fill out a Hall of Fame ballot for our crowdsourcing project, see here. All WAR figures refer to the Baseball-Reference version unless otherwise indicated.

Jeff Kent took a long time to find a home. Drafted by the Blue Jays in 1989, he passed through the hands of three teams who didn’t quite realize the value of what they had. Not until a trade to the Giants in November 1996 — prior to his age-29 season — did he really settle in. Once he did, he established himself as a standout complement to Barry Bonds, helping the Giants become perennial contenders and spending more than a decade as a middle-of-the-lineup force.

Despite his late-arriving stardom and a prickly personality that sometimes rubbed teammates and media the wrong way, Kent earned All-Star honors five times, won an MVP award, and helped four different franchises reach the playoffs a total of seven times. His resumé gives him a claim as the best-hitting second baseman of the post-1960 expansion era — not an iron-clad one, but not one that’s easily dismissed. For starters, he holds the all-time record for most home runs by a second baseman with 351. That’s 74 more than Ryne Sandberg, 85 more than Joe Morgan, and 86 more than Rogers Hornsby — all Hall of Famers, and in Hornsby’s case, one from before the expansion era (note that I’m not counting homers hit while playing other positions). Among players with at least 7,000 plate appearances in their career who spent at least half their time at second base, only Hornsby (.577) has a higher slugging percentage than Kent’s .500. From that latter set, only Hornsby (1.010) and another pre-expansion Hall of Famer, Charlie Gehringer (.884), have a higher OPS.

Offense isn’t everything for a second baseman, however, and in a Hall of Fame discussion, it needs to be set in its proper context, particularly given the high-scoring era in which Kent played. Taking the measure of all facets of his game, he appears to have a weaker case with regards to advanced statistics than to traditional ones. On a crowded ballot chockfull of candidates with stronger cases on both fronts, he has struggled to gain support, topping out at 16.7% in 2017, his fourth year on the ballot.

2019 BBWAA Candidate: Jeff Kent
Player Career WAR Peak WAR JAWS
Jeff Kent 55.4 35.7 45.6
Avg. HOF 2B 69.4 44.4 56.9
H HR AVG/OBP/SLG OPS+
2,461 377 .290/.356/.500 123
SOURCE: Baseball-Reference

Born in Bellflower, California (a suburb of Los Angeles) on March 7, 1968, Kent was most interested in motocross — a sport in which his father, a former motorcycle cop, competed — while growing up. He played baseball at Edison High School in Huntington Beach, but despite being an all-county selection as a shortstop, he was kicked off his team as a senior due to a personality conflict. Coach Ron La Ruffa called it “a bad case of senioritis,” and the Los Angeles Times characterized it as an “attitude problem.” Playing American Legion and Connie Mack League baseball that summer instead, he still secured a baseball scholarship to the University of California.

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Kent helped Cal to the College World Series as a sophomore in 1988, but a broken wrist ended his junior season, scared away scouts, and dropped his draft stock. Nonetheless, he signed with the Blue Jays when they chose him in the 20th round of the 1989 draft. Splitting his first professional season between shortstop and third base, he struggled both in the field and at the plate but showed good power at every minor-league stop, and a greater aptitude for second base. He was set to start the 1992 season at Triple-A Syracuse, but injuries opened a roster spot in Toronto and playing time at third and second. He played 65 games for the Blue Jays, hitting .240/.324/.443, but on August 27 — mere days after Dave Winfield joked in the pages of Sports Illustrated that Kent was Wally Pipp-ing injured third baseman Kelly Gruber — they sent him and a player to be named later to the Mets for David Cone, who went on to help Toronto win the World Series.

Alas, the Mets were headed the opposite direction, bound for their second straight losing season after seven (1984–90) with at least 87 wins. The 1992 squad gained infamy as The Worst Team Money Could Buy (after the book of the same name), but the 1993 one truly stunk: New York went 59–103, the team’s worst showing since 1965. The 25-year-old Kent spent most of that season as the starting second baseman, hitting a respectable .270/.320/.446 with 21 homers in 140 games, but he was terrible in the field (-20 runs, according to Total Zone), offsetting nearly all of his value with the bat; he finished with 0.3 WAR.

Kent maintained that offensive level over the next three seasons, hitting a combined .284/.333/.457 (108 OPS+) and averaging 15 homers a year from 1994-1996, and his defense improved enough that he averaged 2.8 WAR across that stretch. Even so, he disliked a 1996 shift to third base, and it took its toll. As Franz Lidzwrote in a February 15, 1999 SI profile:

“I hated third,” he says. It showed. Once, after a Shea Stadium ball girl backhanded a foul ball, a fan shouted, “Hey, Kent. You should trade positions with her.” When errors — 21 in 89 games — began mounting faster than the national debt, Kent became defensive about his defense. “Bobbling a ball would so humiliate me that I couldn’t speak,” he says.

The Mets remained mired below .500, but Kent caught a break when he was traded to Cleveland in a four-player deal that sent Carlos Baerga to New York; the Mets, on the other hand, caught a falling knife in Baerga, but that’s a story for another day. The Indians had won the American League pennant the year before and were bound for 99 wins and another postseason appearance. Kent filled in at first, second, third, and designated hitter down the stretch and started twice in a losing cause in the Division Series. On November 13, he was part of a six-player trade that sent him to San Francisco, with slugging third baseman Matt Williams headlining Cleveland’s end of the deal.

Giants manager Dusty Baker wasn’t wild about the trade because of Kent’s temper, but he did return him to second base and batted him cleanup behind Bonds. Now 29 years old, Kent responded by setting career highs with 155 games, 29 homers, 121 RBIs, and 4.1 WAR despite a rather lopsided .250/.316/.472 line that equated to a modest 105 OPS+. The Giants won the National League West at 90–72, but they were swept by the Marlins in the Division Series despite a pair of solo homers from Kent in Game 3. He received down-ballot support in the MVP race, finishing eighth in the voting.

Thus began Kent’s six-year run of 20-homer/100-RBI seasons, thanks in part to hitting behind Bonds, an on-base machine as well as an elite slugger. Kent matured at the plate, suddenly able to hit for both average and power after altering his stance by holding his hands higher — an epiphany that came from watching Edgar Martinez. In 1998, Kent hit .297/.359/.555 with 31 homers and 4.4 WAR, but the Giants lost a Game 163 play-in for the Wild Card — something they might have avoided had they not gone 11–13 while Kent missed most of June due to a hyperextended knee.

Kent earned All-Star honors for the first time in 1999, then took his game to a new level in 2000 as the Giants moved into brand new Pacific Bell Park (now AT&T Park) and won the NL West with a 97–65 mark; he hit .334/.424/.596 with 33 homers and 7.2 WAR that year, all career bests. The latter mark ranked fourth in the league, but thanks to his 125 RBIs, he beat out Bonds (who hit .306/.440/.688 with 49 homers, 106 RBIs and 7.7 WAR) in the MVP race. The Giants lost the Division Series to the Mets in four games despite Kent going 6-for-16.

The 2001 season was Bonds’s turn to shine, as he bashed 73 homers to shatter the single-season record and won his fourth MVP award. By that point, however, tensions between the two stars were bubbling to the surface. In the August 27 issue of SI, Kent told Rick Reilly, “On the field, we’re fine, but off the field, I don’t care about Barry and Barry doesn’t care about me. [Pause.] Or anybody else.” Kent himself had a good year (.298/.369/.507, 5.2 WAR) and earned All-Star honors, but the Giants missed the playoffs.

The 2002 season saw highs and lows for the 34-year-old Kent. On March 1, he broke a bone in his wrist, initially claiming it happened while washing his truck. Soon it surfaced that eyewitnesses reported seeing a motorcyclist crash while doing a wheelie near Scottsdale Stadium in Arizona, the Giants’ spring training home; further information showed that it was Kent, riding in violation of his contract. The incident became the butt of jokes, but the Giants showed leniency, and Kent wound up missing just four games. On June 25, after yelling at third baseman David Bell, Kent scuffled with Bonds in the dugout. Afterward, he dismissed the altercation, saying it wasn’t a “big deal” and adding it to the “half-dozen times we’ve done it before.” Even so, he was also reported as telling Baker afterwards, “I want off this team.”

For all of the tension, Kent set a new career high with 37 homers, hitting .313/.368/.565 en route to 7.0 WAR, helping the Giants win 96 games and the NL Wild Card; they proceeded to beat the Braves and Cardinals to advance to the World Series against the Angels. Kent hit .276/.290/.621 in 31 plate appearances for the Series, homering in a losing cause in Game 2, then homering twice and driving in four runs in a 16–4 rout in Game 5 that put the Giants within one win of their first championship since moving to San Francisco in 1958.

In Game 6, the Giants were up 5–0 with nine outs to go when all hell broke loose after a pair of three-run Angels rallies, the second keyed by a Bonds error. San Francisco lost the last two games, with Kent going 0-for-4 with two strikeouts in Game 7.

That was it for Kent’s run in San Francisco. In December, he signed a two-year, $18.2 million deal with the Astros, bumping All-Star second baseman Craig Biggio to center field. Superficially, Kent’s performance with Houston (.293/.350/.521 in 2003–2004) looked a whole lot like his six years in San Francisco (.297/.368/.535), but in reality, hitter-friendly Minute Maid Park was masking his decline. He totaled just 6.7 WAR over those two years; his OPS+, meanwhile, went from 136 as a Giant to 121 as an Astro — good, but not outstanding. Kent missed four weeks in 2003 due to wrist inflammation, and again, his injury probably cost his team a playoff spot. Despite the presence of Biggio, Jeff Bagwell and Lance Berkman, the Astros went 12–11 in his absence and lost the NL Central by one game.

Kent earned All-Star honors for the fourth time in 2004 and hit 27 homers. Career home run no. 300 came off St. Louis’ Jeff Suppan on September 29, and no. 278 as a second baseman — the record-breaker at the position—came on October 2 off Colorado’s Adam Bernero. Bolstered by the midseason arrival of Carlos Beltran, the Astros won 92 games and the Wild Card, then beat the Braves to advance to the NLCS against the Cardinals. Kent homered three times in the series, with his three-run shot off Jason Isringhausen in the ninth inning of Game 5 providing all of the scoring and putting Houston one win away from their first trip to the World Series, but the team lost the next two.

A free agent again, Kent returned to California on a two-year, $17 million deal with the Dodgers, his favorite team growing up, and the NL West champs in 2004. Alas, he was one of the few bright spots on a squad that tumbled to 71–91 amid such a slew of injuries that he was one of just two players to reach 100 hits. Kent himself was limited to 115 games and 0.7 WAR the following year due to wrist and oblique injuries, not to mention deteriorating defense (-18 Defensive Runs Saved). His 14 homers and 68 RBIs ended a string of nine straight years of at least 22 homers and 93 RBIs, though his last homer was noteworthy. Hit on September 18, 2006 off the Padres’ Jon Adkins, it was the first of four consecutive ninth-inning homers that allowed the Dodgers to tie a game they ultimately won. Los Angeles soon claimed the NL West flag, but despite Kent going bananas in the Division Series against the Mets — 8-for-13 with a double and a homer— the Dodgers were nonetheless swept.

In March 2006, Kent signed an extension to cover the 2007 season with an option for ’08. At 39, he had one more big year with the stick left, hitting .302/.375/.500 with 21 homers, though bad defense (-12 DRS) again offset much of his value, limiting him to 2.2 WAR. Late in the year, as the Dodgers’ playoff hopes slipped away, he made waves by criticizing the professionalism of some of the team’s young players, particularly Matt Kemp. Kent mulled retirement but returned for 2008, then hit just .280/.327/.418 with 12 homers. He needed late-August knee surgery before coming back for the playoffs — the Dodgers had won the NL West at 84–78 — but was limited to a bench role. In January of the following year, he announced his retirement.

Kent finished with 2,461 hits and 377 homers — respectable counting stats to accompany a hefty .290/.356/.500 line, particularly for a player who spent almost 90% of his career as a middle infielder. Among post-expansion players who spent most of their careers at the keystone, only Hall of Famers Biggio (3,060), Roberto Alomar (2,724), and Morgan (2,517), and Robinson Cano (2,470), accumulated more hits. Cano’s 311 homers is the next closest total, and he’s heading into his age-36 season, with five more years under contract.

At a cutoff of 5,000 plate appearances for such players (of whom there are 69), Kent’s batting average ranks ninth, his on-base percentage 15th, and his slugging percentage first (seventh points ahead of Cano). Adjusting for the offensive environment of his era, Kent’s 123 OPS+ ranks fourth in that group behind Morgan (132), Cano (127), and the unjustly bypassed Bobby Grich (125). From that vantage, his candidacy for Cooperstown certainly has credibility, particularly because second base is generally a defense-first position where the offensive bar is lower.

But that bar is lower because in the middle infield, defense counts, and Kent didn’t really add any extra value with the leather relative to other post-expansion second basemen — and again, this is including those players’ time at all positions. By Baseball-Reference’s combination of Total Zone and Defensive Runs Saved, he’s 42 runs below average for his career, with a Defensive WAR (dWAR) of -0.1 after accounting for positional adjustments. That ranks 57th among those 69 players, higher than Biggio (-2.9) but lower than Morgan (3.8 and with far more offensive value), to say nothing of Grich (16.8), Chase Utley (18.3), or Hall of Famers Sandberg (13.5) and Bill Mazeroski (18.0).

Coupling offense and defense, and adjusting for ballpark and era, Kent’s total of 55.4 WAR ranks 19th among second basemen — respectable but nonetheless 14 wins below the average enshrined second baseman and better than just seven of the 20 enshrined, none of them BBWAA selections. Even among those below the Hall average, he’s a mile behind Sandberg (68.0), Alomar (67.1), Biggio (65.5) and Utley (65.4), whose careers overlapped with his. Only twice did he even have a WAR that cracked the league’s top 10.

Turning to peak WAR, which covers his best seven seasons, Kent’s 35.7 ranks 25th, about nine wins behind the average Hall of Fame second baseman, and below 14 of the 20 enshrined. Kent had just three seasons of at least 5.0 WAR and two more seasons of at least 4.0. By comparison, Morgan had 10 seasons of at least 5.0 WAR, and Cano has seven and counting; Alomar, Grich, Ian Kinsler, Dustin Pedroia, Sandberg and Utleyhad six apiece; and Biggio and Rod Carew each compiled five. Even at the 4.0 WAR bar, 11 post-expansion second basemen had more big seasons.

In the end, Kent’s 45.6 JAWS is 11.3 points below the Hall standard for second basemen, 20th all-time, below 12 of the 20 Hall of Famers and too far to be made up for by the parts of his resumé that the system doesn’t capture, mainly the awards and the postseason (a characteristic .276/.340/.500 with nine homers in 189 plate appearances). Outside of his 2000 MVP award, his highest finish was sixth; he made just five All-Star teams; and so on. Kent scores 122 (“a good possibility”) on the Bill James Hall of Fame Monitor, but the average score for a Hall of Fame second baseman is 161.

When Kent debuted on the 2014 ballot, I noted that it’s rare that my own system surprises me. While the distance between Kent and the Hall of Fame standard for second baseman is one of those cases where the data runs contrast to my gut feeling, it bears remembering that Kent played in such a high-offense era that 40 players with at least 5,000 plate appearances over the span of his career (1992–2008) surpassed his OPS+, in contrast to only six surpassing his RBI total. Moreover, while he accumulated 9,537 plate appearances, he reached 600 in only six seasons due to injuries and the players’ strike, and only 500 in 11. Only some of that owes to being mishandled by the Mets; health is another factor.

Each of Kent’s five years on the ballot featured at least 10 players who score above the JAWS average at their position, the maximum that an individual can vote for under the rules. This year, the count is down to eight. While granting that some of those players have PED issues attached to them, there are also cases to be made for players who don’t quite measure up that way, such as 2018 honorees Vlad Guerrero and Trevor Hoffman, and 2019 newcomers Roy Halladay and Todd Helton. Confronted with the hard choices of how to pare my (virtual) ballot down to 10 (an exercise I’ll repeat before the December 31 deadline for ballots), I can’t see bumping enough of those 10 to include Kent because of how far below the JAWS standard he is.

As I suspected when he debuted, voters have had a hard time finding room for him as well. He debuted with just 15.2% of the vote in 2014, dipped in 2015, peaked at 16.7% in 2017. and sank to 14.5% in 2018. Worse for him, he now has only four more years after this one (instead of nine, thanks to the 2014 rule change) to make up the remaining ground. Since 1966, when the BBWAA returned to annual voting, 26 players besides Kent (including ballot-mates Fred McGriff and Larry Walker) have received between 10 and 25% of the vote in their fifth year of eligibility. Of that group, only four are now in the Hall of Fame, none of them elected by the writers. In other words, reaching Cooperstown via the writers will require an unprecedented climb for Kent, who has five cycles to make up ground instead of 10. While I remain open-minded on his candidacy, I’m not alone among those who will take far more convincing that he truly belongs.





Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.

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EBGP
7 years ago

Completely biased opinion from a Giants fan, but he should absolutely be in if we’re allowing Bill Mazeroski in.

tramps like us
7 years ago
Reply to  EBGP

tough comp there. Could not be more different. How much weight do you give defense? Not arguing either way, just sayin’.

NATS FanMember since 2018
7 years ago
Reply to  EBGP

I agree that Mazerowski did not deserve the Hall.

Fredchuckdave
7 years ago

I see Kent as borderline but his likabilty WAR is relatively low so the Today’s Game committee probably won’t enshrine him.

emh1969
7 years ago
Reply to  Fredchuckdave

Two more strikes against Kent: never played for Tony LaRussa, never led the league in game winning RBI’s. #sad

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

Looks like we’re getting to the clear “Hall of Very Good” candidates on Jay’s lists.

Of note: Originally, Barry Bonds was slated to be today, and Kent was slated for Boxing Day. Maybe he has decided he wants to a big steroids week with Clemens, Bonds, and Sosa?

Johnston
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

“Maybe he has decided he wants to a big steroids week with Clemens, Bonds, and Sosa?”

He can call it “Cheat Week.”

steelehere
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

I’d pay money to go see the honorees at the Hall of Very Good.

Magician_531
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

He didn’t manage to write one the day that he flew home from the winter meetings so everything got pushed off a day and he’s combining tejada with someone else (I can’t remember who at the moment) because neither of them have any real shot of making it.

Johnston
7 years ago

Kent only ever belongs in the Hall of Very Good, plus he fails the character clause.

Calliesdad
7 years ago
Reply to  Johnston

Oh come on with the character clause, ridiculous stuff. How many blatant racists are in the HOF ?

Johnston
7 years ago
Reply to  Calliesdad

Nobody knows. There are likely some of all colors.

And you are the one being ridiculous. Kent was a serious problem.

Magician_531
7 years ago
Reply to  Calliesdad

Ah, the good ol’ “two wrongs make a right” argument.

manormachine
7 years ago

My favorite Jeff Kent quote, quite relevant to this discussion: “The money lies with the RBIs.”

edelmanfanclub
7 years ago

As much as I like WAR to measure a player’s totality I think it does an injustice to Kent. While 2B is a defensive position, so I understand the deduction I think too much is being spent on just his WAR. Check those peak OPS+ seasons

Kent: 162, 147, 142, 133, 131, 125
Sandberg: 145, 140, 140, 138, 134
Alomar: 150, 141, 140, 136, 134, 130
Biggio: 143, 142, 139, 138, 131, 120

For players that played post WW2 with at least 9000 PA only Morgan and Carew have a higher OPS+. I think that defense is totally undervalued when determining a player’s worth and if you are an elite defender and an average hitter for your position you should be a HOF. Kent was definitely a below average defender in his later career but I feel like his offense is being undervalued in this case. The fact that the geezers that hate WAR aren’t salivating over his HR total is mind boggling too. I think Kent should go in, it isn’t a crime if he doesn’t but I am surprised how little support he is getting.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  edelmanfanclub

Yeah, but the defense does make a pretty big difference in the peak seasons, especially for Sandberg, but also Alomar and Biggio. The WAR7 for Sandberg is something like 12 points higher than for Kent, and Biggio/Alomar is something like 6 or 7 points higher.

Part of the problem is that while he was the best hitter at the 2B position in his era, he was something like the 20th-40th best hitter overall (depending on minimum PA cutoffs). In theory, you’d want to turn to WAR for the relatively generous positional adjustment for 2B, but that doesn’t really help him because of the defense.

BenZobrist4MVP
7 years ago
Reply to  edelmanfanclub

Also, he doesn’t compare quite as well to those 3 via wRC+ as OPS+ because his slugging was better than his OBP.

FRLMember since 2016
7 years ago

RBI don’t get a lot of love around here, but he was a tremendous run producer. .300 career avg. with RISP and .351 with the bases loaded.

tb.25
7 years ago
Reply to  FRL

.290 career AVG isn’t much different than .300 with RISP.

Now if he hit .400 with RISP… then it’d be significant.

Cool Lester SmoothMember since 2020
7 years ago
Reply to  tb.25

Accounting for “run production” via replacing wRAA with RE24 actually gives him a 5 WAR bump!

Still well below the HoF standard for 2Bs, but closer to the margin of error.

BacterunMember since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  FRL

He hit behind this guy named Barry Bonds (approximately .467 OBP when Kent was on the Giants) for a while, Madison Bumgarner could probably rip a 100 RBI season in under those circumstances. OBP for that time frame is very back of the napkin, split tool only goes back to 2002 and i was to lazy to weight his PAs per season, which would actually raise the OBP number higher as his 1999 season was his lowest OBP in that time frame as well as the lowest number of PAs.

Johnnie TMember since 2024
7 years ago

Like so many of these guys, Kent is the kind of guy that if you are a Big HOF advocate, you vote to let into the HOF with confidence. However, if you are a small HOFer (like me), he fits very well into the Hall of the Very Good, and while his enshrinement would not tarnish the HOF, he really does not fully belong there.

So what you think is more a question of philosophy than performance…

Johnston
7 years ago
Reply to  Johnnie T

Exactly. The Hall should be reserved for the very best of all time, and Kent certainly is not anything even close to that.

gmaske71
7 years ago
Reply to  Johnnie T

That sounds good but it isn’t true. “Big” vs. “Small” is a bogus issue. The question is always whether or not Player X deserves to be in the Hall. If you say “my philosophy is a big hall,” you are simply saying you have lower performance standards. We may disagree on how to interpret the statistics, but the statistics themselves are NOT matters of opinion. Philosophy, on the other hand, is, and it’s a crappy way of rationalizing adding everybody and their dog to the HOF. Kent, by the way, does not belong.

bjsguess
7 years ago

This is a really hard case.

I struggle with this because the argument hinges almost entirely on the defensive metrics. While Kent’s defensive ratings are probably closer to reality I don’t have much confidence in them. And when compared to those that have gone before him … yeah – total crapshoot. I simply have zero faith in defensive numbers that are older than 10-15 years.

So I weigh these older cases about 90%/10% (offense/defense). Weighing his numbers (and those of his peers in the Hall) boosts his case enough for serious consideration.

The guy is a bit like Sheffield. Pretty rough around the edges. But intense and hungry to win. Some really ill-advised comments and the car wash that will go down in infamy will be how many people remember him. That’s sad. He was simply a beast and should be forever known for his power out of 2B.

tb.25
7 years ago

The rule change, that was made to keep Bonds and Clemens out.

(yes it was to increase turnover on the ballot but it was very likely to get the PEDs guys off it sooner).

Fredchuckdave
7 years ago
Reply to  tb.25

Might work for Bonds and Clemens but hasn’t really done anything except accelerate how fast people get elected, Edgar would probably still be hovering at 50% if not for the 10 year rule switch; a good change overall even though you’d conceptually think that 15 years would increase opportunity all it does is make writers take longer to decide that whichever viable or non viable candidate was worthy 15 years later instead of 10 years later.

Hank G.Member since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  tb.25

The rule change was totally unfair to everyone who was already on the ballot. When they outlawed the spitball, pitchers who were known to throw it were grandfathered (actually, I think it was limited to one pitcher per team, but I don’t know of any prominent spitballer who lost out).

They should have grandfathered everyone who was still on the ballot, but as you said, the rule change was directed at Bonds and Clemens, so they refused to do the right thing.

jtricheyMember since 2021
7 years ago

No extra credit for being on Survivor?

Jimmie Foxxalorian
7 years ago

Using a Bainesian approach, prior voting intellect diatribution suggests Kent is the greatest player to ever grace the keystone.

sadtromboneMember since 2020
7 years ago

Baines’ theorem is gonna wreak havoc on HoF voting.

Johnnie TMember since 2024
7 years ago
Reply to  sadtrombone

Best to ignore it and pretend it never happened; 136 wrongs do not make a right.

Stovokor
7 years ago

We’re living in a weird era of anti-intellectualism in the US. Vaccines don’t work, global warming is fake, healthcare costs are quite reasonable, and Harold Baines is an easy HoFer because analytics are dumb.

Wonderful Terrific Monds
7 years ago

Jay mentions Kent’s defense multiple times, but does defense actually matter in a world where Harold Baines is elected?

I actually feel a little bad for Jay. There is no overarching, logical, performance-based rationale underlying enshrinement. It is and always has been, from its beginning through today, a hodge-podge of anecdotes and a grand lesson in “it’s not what you know, it’s who you know.”

emh1969
7 years ago

Bill James once described the Hall of Fame as “a self-defining institution that continually refuses to define itself”. (paraphrasing)

Hank G.Member since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  emh1969

How could it be anything else? You have an ever-changing set of voters, and the instructions on voting from the HOF itself are deliberately vague.

Hank G.Member since 2016
7 years ago

But Jay is trying to bring logical, performance-based rationale to the discussion. It doesn’t mean the voters will pay any attention (they seem to be more impressed by “The Fear”), but at least there is an objective standard for us to look at.

John Autin
7 years ago

No quarrel with what is written here. But it’s strange that Lou Whitaker is never mentioned among all these comparisons, especially with the focus on expansion-era 2Bs. It almost seems like a concerted effort NOT to mention Whitaker, who could have fit easily into any of these passages:

“Kent had just three seasons of at least 5.0 WAR.”
— Lou Whitaker had four such years.

“Even at the 4.0 WAR bar, 11 post-expansion second basemen had more big seasons.”
— Including Lou Whitaker, whose 10 such years rank 5th of ALL 2Bs.

“Kent finished with 2,461 hits … Among post-expansion players who spent most of their careers at the keystone, only Hall of Famers Biggio (3,060), Roberto Alomar (2,724), and Morgan (2,517), and Robinson Cano (2,470), accumulated more hits.”
— Whitaker’s 2,369 hits were 92 fewer than Kent — but he had 199 more times on base (ranking 4th among expansion 2Bs and 9th among all 2Bs). Whitaker had a better career OBP than Kent, and scored more runs (both total and per PA).

[Kent’s -0.1 dWAR] “ranks 57th among those 69 players … lower than Morgan … to say nothing of Grich (16.8), Chase Utley (18.3), or Hall of Famers Sandberg (13.5) and Bill Mazeroski (18.0)”
— And to say nothing (again) of Lou Whitaker, whose 16.3 dWAR is 9th in that group.

It’s obviously not bias, as the author has often stated that Whitaker “absolutely” belongs in the Hall. But it’s weird. I count 13 other 2Bs named in this piece, and 6 of the top 8 in WAR by non-HOF expansion 2Bs. But no mention of the guy who’s 2nd in WAR among all expansion 2Bs, 3rd in WAA, 4th in oWAR and 9th in dWAR. His name is Lou Whitaker.

tramps like us
7 years ago
Reply to  John Autin

And you didn’t even mention his mirror image status of Alan Trammell. Good post.

Ivan_GrushenkoMember since 2016
7 years ago

I wouldn’t vote for him but he could sneak into the top 10 of this group if you exclude the reputed steroid guys. He’s a non-ridiculous if non-good choice.

Hank G.Member since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  Ivan_Grushenko

Certainly not as ridiculous as Baines, and more deserving than Rice (IMO).

Calliesdad
7 years ago

He is a much much better offensive player than Biggio. I would take him over Biggio .

tramps like us
7 years ago

No one seems to consider it…but guys like Kent lose some support because they don’t have much of a team identity. Would Biggio have made it if he’d played for 6 different teams? Same with Sheffield and even Kevin Brown. Maybe you don’t think of these guys as hall of famers, but to get such a piddling amount of votes with all their black ink is just ridiculous. Spending one’s career (or most of it) with one team boosts support. Oh and being friendlier would’ve helped too.

Geebs
7 years ago
Reply to  tramps like us

I’m not sure that playing for multiple teams thing is an issue, Alomar played for 8 teams, Gossage 9 teams, Henderson 8 teams, Perry 8 teams, Smith (Lee) 8 teams and I’m sure a quick google search would bring up many more.
The friendlier thing you might be on to something.

Hank G.Member since 2016
7 years ago
Reply to  tramps like us

I’ve thought that in regards to Fred Lynn. If he had stayed with Boston, not only would he have that team identity, but his numbers would have looked better hitting in Fenway, at least superficially.

I don’t know why any good hitter with hopes of making the HOF would leave Boston. It boosts offensive stats, but not enough that the writers penalize the players for it. Yeah, I know the answer is money, but the difference between $20 million and $22 million is not going to affect your lifestyle. You’ve already in the top 1% of the top 1%.

NATS FanMember since 2018
7 years ago

Hall of very good to me. He was never a popular player and I didn’t like him. WAR in the 50s is not good enough at second.

London Yank
7 years ago

Players like Kent are where we really struggle to do the player justice with respect to awards voting. The defensive measurements that are available for the entirety of Kent’s career almost certainly have error bars that are greater than the actual value we are attempting to measure, however they are often utilised as if they are precise. As a massive defensive outlier with respect to the numbers, it is very likely the case that he is being undervalued. What we know for sure is that he is a HOF offensive player, and a below average, but playable defensive player. He is so good on the offensive side that I think its only fair to give him the nod.

Kevbot034
7 years ago

Makes me sad seeing all those “Cano” that pop up, because he was a HoF for sure, and one of my favorites. But all that changed for me after last year’s steroid suspension, sadly.

gmaske71
7 years ago

“…better than just seven of the 20 enshrined, none of them BBWAA selections.” That made me laugh. Looks like were headed for a bifurcated Hall of Fame, one elected by the writers and one elected by guys who knew guys.