Jeff Sullivan FanGraphs Chat — 10/26/18
9:08 |
: Hello friends |
9:08 |
: Welcome to Friday baseball chat |
9:08 |
: What do you make of Brodie Van Wagenen being the frontrunner for Met GM? Is this a good idea or is the lack of experience too much to overcome? |
9:09 |
: Let me put it this way: I am excited by the prospect of a team making such an outside-the-box hire. But if I were a Mets fan, I’d prefer to have Bloom, because I wouldn’t want my team to be an experiment |
9:09 |
: Are you still watching the Senators this year? As an Avalanche fan that went through 16-17 I can tell you I’ve never learned more from a season. |
9:09 |
: They haven’t been terrible yet! |
9:09 |
: Has anyone ever looked into whether or not a FA can actually make himself money in the playoffs? (I’m not exactly sure how that could be quantified but what am I, a scientist?) |
9:10 |
: I don’t think the playoffs can ever make or break a free agent, but there are certain cases where you can definitely see that someone was given a boost |
9:10 |
: Daniel Murphy was given a healthier contract after blitzing through the first two rounds in 2015 |
9:11 |
: And I think last year’s playoffs did well to highlight that Brandon Morrow really was a new pitcher |
9:12 |
: This era being what it is, executives aren’t going to overreact to a hot two or three weeks. But if there’s something statistical that demonstrates skill or improvement in October, that won’t go unnoticed |
9:12 |
: Please rank the recent manager hires: Bell/Reds, Montoyo/Jays, Baldelli/Twins, Ausmus/Angels… Which hires do you like the most? The least? |
9:13 |
: With the caveat that I don’t know anything, I like Baldelli. I also like Montoyo. I’m open to the idea that Ausmus has evolved since his last opportunity. Bell interests me the least. Which is not to say that he’ll be a bad manager, but I don’t yet see anything exciting over there |
9:14 |
: What’s a realistic return the Padres could get if they trade from their outfield depth? |
9:16 |
: I think they could get a pretty interesting starting pitcher if they moved Margot or Reyes. Don’t think Renfroe would be that highly valued yet, and Cordero is super talented but he’s coming off a lost season |
9:17 |
: What team would be a good fit for Whit Merrifield? |
9:17 |
: Brewers, for one |
9:18 |
: Nationals, for two |
9:19 |
: Maybe the Rockies, for three |
9:19 |
: Boston should probably start ERod in game 4, given that LA’s platooning has hit ‘Mr Burns pinch hitting for Daryl Strawberry’ territory. Eovaldi’s been dynamite in the 8th anyway |
9:19 |
: Going to guess the Dodgers probably have a pretty good idea of what they’re doing. They just haven’t hit for two games |
9:20 |
: Can you tell Ben his piece on doubting WS managers was great? |
9:20 |
: He can read this when the transcript is posted |
9:20 |
: Hey Jeff, due to Brewers-related baseball depression, I’ve largely avoided the site, but I just wanted to drop in and thank you for a sason of chats and posts. Always informative and interesting! Also, you will die at some point in the next 70 years. |
9:20 |
: So will most of us! There’s freedom in being forgotten |
9:21 |
: Nuñez hit two homers off LHP all year. The idea that he makes Cora a genius and Roberts an idiot drives me nuts. |
9:21 |
: Don’t pay attention to people who speak in such absolutes |
9:22 |
: It’s the siren song of certitude |
9:22 |
: Would the NBA Finals be fun to watch if the announcers constantly bemoaned 3 point shooting, fast breaks, and the wide open modern game? |
9:23 |
: I get the idea of having player experience in the broadcast booth. But the experience of playing 25 years ago means so little compared to the game’s modern era. It’s a completely different sport. A broadcast should want to feature someone who’s either still playing, or is at least recently retired |
9:24 |
: Chris Archer is so good. If only he weren’t, you know, a current starting pitcher |
9:24 |
: I’m sure it’s not something he wants to do, but imagine if John Smoltz were Brandon McCarthy instead |
9:25 |
: Are Seattle residents as annoyed with tech employees (Amazon) as SF residents are? |
9:25 |
: I don’t live in Seattle, but yes |
9:26 |
: With Sales relative struggles this postseason- I think it’s safe to conclude his injuries were real and not just trying to get him rest like folks were thinking was possible. How do you think this will impact him next year? Will rest in your opinion get him ok or is it something that could be really big next year? |
9:27 |
: It’s worth noting that, historically, Sale’s worst month has been September, and his second-worst month has been August |
9:27 |
: Still good months! Relatively speaking. But there’s real reason to believe that Chris Sale just wears down over the course of 7+ months of regular pitching |
9:28 |
: Whatever’s going on with him now, I imagine it won’t require surgery — he’ll rest and be okay by the spring. We saw some 95s and 96s the last time out. But I don’t know if Sale’s built to excel in the playoffs, given how much pitching is done ahead of October. Perhaps the Red Sox could skip starts or shorten his outings |
9:29 |
: Will the Angels move to Portland? |
9:29 |
: I don’t think so, but I do think they’re the most likely candidate of the three(?) that’ve been discussed |
9:30 |
: If they miss out on Harper/Machado could you see the Dodgers using their budget on absorbing a big contract like Stanton or Grienke? |
9:30 |
: I could see them making a play for Greinke long before I could see them making a play for Stanton. Don’t think they want that contract on the books |
9:31 |
: Greinke has three more years. Stanton has nine |
9:33 |
: Do you think we’ll ever see any mega prospects with the balls to threaten to not report to Triple-A and/or demand a trade in instances where they’re obviously being kept in the minors for service time manipulation? Teams won’t do it if they don’t feel it’s worth it, and the way to make them feel that way may be to make them feel like they’re risking ruining their relationship with the player |
9:35 |
: All it would take is one player, but I don’t think we’ll see anything beyond what we see now — a frustrated statement from the agent, some grumbling, and a threat of a grievance. A player just doesn’t have that much leverage, under the current construction, and the same player also wouldn’t want to upset his employer when he’s so close to making his debut. More and more, I assume players know how these things work. There are effectively seven years of club control, not six |
9:35 |
: But I do think there’s a glimmer of hope that service-time manipulation is in some way addressed in a forthcoming CBA. Try to nip this in the bud, now that these maneuvers are getting harder and harder to hide or explain away |
9:38 |
: Hey Jeff, I’m curious if you think a swap of Kyle Seager for Wil Myers might make sense. As I understand it, Seager’s club option would become a player option if he’s traded, so the money involved would be about the same. San Diego would get a better defensive option for 3B, Seattle would get an upgrade at 1B or a potential alternative for an outfield corner. Who says no? |
9:40 |
: I don’t think it’s impossible, and I do think there would be some amount of interest in Seager from the San Diego side, but Seager is three years older than Myers, and he’s coming off a seemingly worse season. The Padres would be getting older and not that much better, and then the Mariners would also be left without a third baseman |
9:40 |
: Maybe you could build something *around* Seager and Myers, but the odds are better that Seager will just have to try to figure it out in Seattle |
9:41 |
: Max Muncy has a wRC+ of 141 vs lefties with a 255/361/529 line. What more could dave Roberts possible want? |
9:41 |
: I suspect the Dodgers don’t believe that Muncy’s statistics reflect his true talent |
9:42 |
: His strikeout rate did jump almost ten percentage points in the second half, and it’s gone up again in the playoffs. 20 strikeouts in 46 playoff plate appearances |
9:42 |
: Maybe the Dodgers are wrong, but I think they’ve concluded Muncy isn’t the perfect matchup against the bulk of playoff-caliber pitching |
9:44 |
: What do you think the chances are that Harper could sign with a surprise team like when Greinke signed with Arizona? Who do you think it could be? Let’s say a “surprise team” is anyone outside of WSH, NYY, PHI, CHC, LAD, SF |
9:45 |
: I’ll say 0.5% chance he signs with the Marlins, and 1.5% chance he signs with the Padres |
9:46 |
: That’s not based on any inside information. Just a pair of longshot hunches |
9:46 |
: Am I getting benched tonight? |
9:46 |
: Wouldn’t Holt ordinarily draw the start against Buehler anyway? |
9:47 |
: What’s the worst thing that could happen to Ryan Madson: Being inserted into another high-leverage situation this week, or being forced to ingest a handful of candy corn? |
9:47 |
: Those are both wonderful things that could happen |
9:47 |
: You have presented a choice between two wonderful things |
9:48 |
: Do you think Edwin Jackson could name every MLB team he’s played for without any hesitation or ever having to stop and think? |
9:48 |
: Nope |
9:48 |
: Fun fact I learned from Ben Lindbergh this morning: Edwin Jackson ranks second on the all-time list of major-league teammates! |
9:49 |
: He’d probably go up to first if he signed with a new club this winter |
9:49 |
: Any thoughts on the managerial hires so far? |
9:49 |
: Baldelli seems like the most interesting of the four, but in all honesty I know so little about the managers who are already managing |
9:50 |
: Even having talked with beat writers and team people over the years, I don’t think anyone knows what to make of a manager |
9:50 |
: Pitch tipping has replaced Pitch framing as the least interesting thing I keep seeing articles about and not reading |
9:50 |
: On the one hand, I think you’re doing yourself a disservice — these can be interesting subjects |
9:50 |
: On the other hand, yeah |
9:51 |
: I don’t think pitch-tipping almost ever explains why a guy is having a hard time. I think it’s almost always just bad pitching |
9:51 |
: But, whatever. Some players believe in it, and it can be fun to break down the video if there’s actually something notable to be found |
9:54 |
: How is Dansby Swanson not a finalist for a Gold Glove? |
9:54 |
: I don’t know — I don’t know why Galvis is up there — but Ahmed ought to win it anyway |
9:56 |
: I guess Crawford has the developing precedent, but Ahmed is special |
9:56 |
: Hi Jeff. I am curious, what is your ZIPs win probability for the Dodgers in the game today? |
9:57 |
: I don’t know. I don’t run ZiPS! |
9:57 |
https://www.fangraphs.com/livescoreboard.aspx?date=2018-10-26 : But our scoreboard page currently puts the Dodgers at 59% |
9:57 |
: That includes the home-field advantage |
9:58 |
: What nickname should the Seattle hockey team adopt? |
9:58 |
: Canucks |
9:58 |
: How do you stop the Red Sox when they’re at bat with two outs? Better yet, how do you stop them at all? |
9:59 |
: You throw the best pitches you can throw and you assume that the Red Sox aren’t magic |
10:00 |
: One of their best two-out hitters so far in the playoffs has been Christian Vazquez. That’s the very definition of random noise |
10:01 |
: Absolutely no questioning that the Red Sox hitters have come up huge. But if you’re a Dodgers pitcher, you just have to treat them like they’re normal. They’re good, and they’re normal |
10:01 |
: Hasn’t Grandal broken himself going into Free Agency this year? |
10:01 |
: Nope |
10:03 |
: Grandal hasn’t hit in the playoffs. But Grandal has always drawn great pitch-framing ratings, and he’s always had a triple-digit wRC+ |
10:05 |
: He seems like an above-average defensive catcher, and the league-average catcher this season had a wRC+ of 84. Mike Zunino territory |
10:05 |
: There have long been whispers about Grandal’s game-calling, that much is true, but no one’s going to be too concerned about a few dropped pitches |
10:06 |
: I understand your readers are disappointed that the offseason is almost upon us. Alas, do not despair. The release of death shall follow shortly. Do you think Daniel Murphy is likely to land a starting job? |
10:06 |
: Murphy will get a job. Too good of a hitter, and you can mitigate his defensive shortcomings through aggressive shifting |
10:07 |
: Now, given that he turns 34 on April 1, I don’t think he’s going to make a major splash. But he deserves as many plate appearances as he can stay healthy for |
10:07 |
: Isn’t it a bit frustrating that in deciding the championship, one of the bigger storylines for this weekend is the DH slot? Any chance this is fixed in next CBA? |
10:08 |
: The universal DH is inevitable. There is no stopping it. No matter how much you howl |
10:08 |
: (Not you, specifically, Peter) |
10:09 |
: As for this particular year, it’s not like this is coming as a surprise. This is how it’s always been. Didn’t stop the Red Sox from winning three World Series in ten years with David Ortiz |
10:09 |
: And not every NL club is as built to slot in a DH in the AL ballpark as the Dodgers |
10:13 |
: Given the recent executive hires, where do you think the Giants go? |
10:14 |
: Sorry for that delay. Had to do some quick Googling |
10:15 |
: Sure seems like, one way or another, the Giants are going to steer into the analytical era |
10:15 |
: Bloom, Ng, Sawdaye, McLeod — this isn’t an exhaustive list of the candidates, but you don’t see a Melvin among them |
10:16 |
: At first blush, the Giants aren’t that appealing a spot, since the organization is in poor shape. But the fan base is supportive, the ownership is supportive, the stadium is beautiful, and San Francisco offers a high quality of living. The Giants should be able to have their pick of the litter |
10:17 |
: Aside from David Stearns, who the Brewers didn’t let them interview, for obvious reasons |
10:19 |
: Hi Jeff! I’m wondering about the gross words commentators use to describe good pitches, like “dirty”, “nasty” and “filthy”. Do you know where this comes from? And are there any others I’ve missed? (I feel like I’ve heard someone drop “disgusting” in there at least once.) |
10:19 |
: The Dickson Baseball Dictionary might be of some utility here |
10:21 |
: A hitter respectfully calls an excellent pitcher “filthy,” a term that evolved out of common adjectives from a decade ago: “nasty” and “dirty.” |
10:21 |
: Early guess: it’s all playing on the double-meaning of “nasty” |
10:21 |
: But there is much deeper to dig, here |
10:21 |
: Do you know who the person is to reach out to if someone wanted to pitch an article idea for the Hardball Times? |
10:22 |
: Meg Rowley |
10:22 |
: Do you think the sports-writing world was somewhat relieved that Kim Ng didn’t get the Mets’ GM job? It would lessen the LOLMets narrative, for fear of being sexist. |
10:22 |
: For one thing, the internet has taught me that sexism is rampant |
10:23 |
: For another thing, no matter who the Mets hire, they’re still going to have their ownership, which is *really* at the core of the LOLMets phenomenon |
10:23 |
: Brandon Woodruff looks pretty legit right? Lots of Ks and SwStr of 10.4 % w/o postseason numbers |
10:24 |
: I think the playoffs really helped his case to get up to 100-150 MLB innings next season. Good-looking pitcher; one of their better internal rotation options |
10:24 |
: Speaking of which, is there postseason swinging strike numbers anywhere? |
10:24 |
: Baseball Savant is your best bet |
10:25 |
: re: Baldelli. When’s the last time a team had a manager who was younger than some of his players? |
10:26 |
: AJ Hinch was 35 when he took over the Diamondbacks |
10:26 |
: That team included a 37-year-old Tony Clark! |
10:26 |
: And, very briefly, a 41-year-old Tom Gordon |
10:27 |
: Oakland doesn’t have a lot on the books for 2019, but they have a slew of holes on their pitching staff. Could you see Dustin Fowler moved for help in that department? Would Mike Leake make some sense, perhaps with a releiver tossed in? |
10:27 |
: I don’t think the A’s are quite yet ready to move on from Fowler, because I don’t think they’re quite yet ready to just hand the long-term CF position to Laureano |
10:29 |
: Luzardo is coming soon. Puk and Cotton should return somewhere around midseason from Tommy John. The team defense is really good. The A’s are going to bolster their rotation, almost without question, but I’m not sure they’re going to make an impact move in that regard |
10:30 |
: And while Leake would help the A’s, he also helps the Mariners, who are also pitching-thin. Don’t know if the Mariners are going to start selling, yet |
10:32 |
: BaseRuns removes cluster luck from team performance. But would a more top heavy team like the Red Sox be more likely to Cluster their runs then a more deep team like the Dodgers? |
10:33 |
: I think it’s been mostly about clutch hitting. In low/medium-leverage situations, the Dodgers were first in wRC+, and the Red Sox were third. But in high-leverage situations, the Red Sox were third, and the Dodgers were 21st |
10:33 |
: I don’t know why that would favor a top-heavy team over a deeper team. You can’t really manually distribute your high-leverage opportunities |
10:34 |
: Hi Jeff! Feels like it’s time for you to write your annual post about how good Rendon is. |
10:34 |
: He’s so good |
10:35 |
: Tenth among all qualified hitters this season in wRC+ |
10:35 |
: Same WAR as Manny Machado |
10:35 |
: Anthony Rendon is a major reason why, Harper or no Harper, the Nationals are going to stay competitive |
10:35 |
: Every team wishes it could have an Anthony Rendon |
10:36 |
: In a swap of bad team fits, would the Padres need to add a sweetener in a Wil Myers (bad position fit) for Zack Greinke (bad contract fit) trade? What would that sweetener look like? |
10:36 |
: What are the Diamondbacks doing with Myers? They have Goldschmidt at first, and they have Peralta/Souza in the outfield corners |
10:37 |
: I know Souza didn’t have a great year, but that’s not a good reason to ditch him |
10:37 |
: And Wil Myers is not a center fielder |
10:39 |
: Where are the most likely landing spots for Maikel Franco? Seems like his time in Philly is up. |
10:39 |
: I, uh |
10:39 |
: I don’t really know |
10:40 |
: Tigers might like him, but they have Candelario |
10:40 |
: Angels might like him, but they have Cozart and Fletcher for 2B/3B |
10:40 |
: Franco isn’t a player who’ll be in a lot of demand |
10:40 |
: If you reaaaaaaaaaaally squint, maybe he fits on the Padres, but he doesn’t do much for them |
10:41 |
: When was the last time watching a baseball game legitimately stressed you out? |
10:41 |
: Probably Game 7, Cubs/Indians |
10:41 |
: It would be easy to point to Game 5, Dodgers/Astros, but I found that game more hilarious than stressful |
10:42 |
: Cubs/Indians was magic |
10:44 |
: It seems like Kershaw will no longer be “Kershaw”. What kind of contract is he worth? |
10:44 |
: The terms he has left on his deal. Right now I don’t think he opts out |
10:44 |
: Who are some surprising high end potential trade candidates that might come available over the winter? |
10:45 |
: Pay attention to the Mariners, who might conceivably blow it up and move Paxton/Diaz/Haniger |
10:45 |
: Might be the most interesting team to keep an eye on |
10:46 |
: Diamondbacks are in a similar boat, and in theory they might look to move Goldschmidt, Greinke, etc |
10:48 |
: So, the A’s are looking at a hilariously stupid budget crunch. Just keeping this 2018 team together will likely run $90mm, without filling any major holes. That’s overbudget. Will the A’s be the A’s and shop, say, Blake Treinen to affordably patch the rotation? |
10:48 |
: It seems like right now, factoring in arbitration estimates, the A’s are pegged for an opening-day payroll around $70-75 million |
10:49 |
: You’re right that it would take extra money to keep Lucroy, Cahill, Familia, etc |
10:49 |
: But I don’t see a Treinen move happening. I think they realized how valuable he can be, and they don’t have a suitable replacement yet |
10:51 |
: Who closes in Boston next season? |
10:51 |
: I can see them either re-signing Kimbrel or making a play for Britton |
10:53 |
: Schwarber for Merrifield? |
10:53 |
: I can see the argument, but Schwarber isn’t the easiest fit on the Royals’ present roster, plus he’s down to three years of club control. Three years is a lot, but the Royals are probably focusing more on six- and seven-year guys at the moment |
10:54 |
: They’re not at all likely to be good while Schwarber is still in his arb years |
10:54 |
: Do you think the Indians bring back any of Brantley, Miller, or Allen? |
10:54 |
: I think Brantley is more likely than the other two |
10:56 |
: Which of these three will have the best career? Manuel Margot, Albert Almora, or Harrison Bader? |
10:56 |
: Margot, then Bader, then Almora |
10:56 |
: Almora, granted, already won a World Series |
10:57 |
: So it depends on how you frame it |
10:58 |
: How amazingly entertaining would it be if Clayton Kershaw pulls a 2007 A-Rod and opts out of his contract in the middle of the world series?? |
10:58 |
: Would’ve been funnier if it happened after a dominant start in Game 1 |
10:59 |
: As is, it would be a hell of a bet on himself after what happened! |
10:59 |
: What a motivator it would be for the rest of the series |
10:59 |
https://www.fantasylabs.com/articles/knuckleball-pitchers-better-wind-… : did anyone run a study on relationship between wind speed/direction and knuckle ball success? a quick search net me the following |
10:59 |
: We basically have no information on surface-level wind conditions |
10:59 |
: Pretty much nothing at all |
11:00 |
: What team takes a risk on Sonny Gray? Do you think he transitions into the bullpen ? |
11:00 |
: If the Mariners don’t want to tear down, Gray would be one interesting buy-low option |
11:00 |
: He’s probably a little expensive for a return to the A’s |
11:01 |
: I do wonder what the Astros could do with him, given the opportunity |
11:01 |
: What is the probability of a Wil Myers trade this off-season? |
11:01 |
: 25%? |
11:02 |
: What do you think the Twins are thinking wrt Buxton? Is he in the doghouse enough for them to cash him in for what they can get? He’d like fine in CF in Colorado … |
11:02 |
: His stock has never been lower. This seems like it would be a miserable time to trade him |
11:02 |
: For better or worse, I think he’s still part of the Twins’ hopeful formula |
11:03 |
: Is Chaim Bloom a well regarded analytics guy? If so why would he want the Mets job? |
11:03 |
: Bloom is very highly regarded. He would want the Mets job because there are only ever 30 GM positions at a time, and the Mets would offer one of them |
11:04 |
: He would also not want the Mets job if he got the impression he wouldn’t have enough autonomy. It’s not like, as far as his career is concerned, it’s Mets or nothing |
11:04 |
: How much do you think Roberts is actually making all these decisions? Seems like Friedman and co would be taking a good amount of control |
11:04 |
: Everything is probably discussed in a group setting before the games ever begin. Every decision is talked about so as to get everyone on the same page |
11:05 |
: Is Fox really airing commercials in between pitches now? Please tell me this isn’t the new normal. |
11:05 |
: Apparently they started doing it in last year’s World Series |
11:05 |
: It is the new normal |
11:05 |
: There’s zero incentive for Fox to go back. As they see it, they’re making more money, and the people who are watching aren’t about to turn it off |
11:06 |
: Can you explain to me the paradox of postseason stats? If both pitchers and hitters would generally be expected to have worse stats against better than average competition, and playoff teams represent better than average competition, then one could reasonably expect both pitchers and hitters to be worse in the playoffs than they are in the regular season. Yet that can’t be true for both of them. What is the rational explanation for this? |
11:06 |
: I’m going to level with you: I’m stuck |
11:07 |
: I feel like the answer is actually pretty obvious, but in my current frame of mind, I’m not able to get to the solution |
11:08 |
: And this is bothering me more than you’d think, Dan |
11:08 |
: that is interesting |
11:08 |
: I agree with you, Reagan! |
11:09 |
: Dan is interesting |
11:09 |
: Dan is interesting |
11:09 |
: everyone collapses to what is might be called equivalent talent level production. probably everyone performs at around the average mlb production level? |
11:09 |
: I’m going to continue thinking about this, but right now I have to wind down the chat |
11:10 |
: But I’m going to ask around so that I can try to help you out! |
11:10 |
: So for now, I need to get rolling |
11:11 |
: Thank you everybody for hanging out, and I’m sorry for what I didn’t or couldn’t address. We’ll do it again next week at the same time, and until then, be well and have great days. Last weekend of baseball games coming up! |
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