Jeff Sullivan FanGraphs Chat — 11/2/18
9:08 |
: Hello friends |
9:08 |
: Welcome to Friday baseball chat |
9:08 |
: Usually I’m late to start because of a pre-chat podcast. Today it was a pre-chat phone conversation with the boss! Always something |
9:09 |
: First Friday baseball chat in a while with no active…baseball. Weird feeling. Also weird that it already feels normal |
9:09 |
: Hello, friend! |
9:09 |
: Hello friend |
9:09 |
: Your last few chats have kinda got me drinking the Realmuto kool-aid, do you think an offer of Jesus Sanchez, Nick Solak, and Lucius Fox gets the Rays close? |
9:10 |
: I kind of feel like each one of those prospects would have to be one letter grade better |
9:12 |
: Sanchez hasn’t yet done anything good at Double-A. Ditto for Fox. Solak had a strong year at Double-A but he’s still thought of as a lower-ceiling guy. Marlins would aim higher |
9:13 |
: Wonder what would happen if you swapped Fox for Baz. That would yield some progress |
9:13 |
: Nats started the offseason really well with Rosenthal and Barraclaugh. How much more pen help do you think they need? |
9:14 |
: I think they need at least one more clearly good reliever. Barraclough has trended downward, and while I like both Doolittle and Rosenthal, they very obviously have some elevated injury risk |
9:15 |
: What position players, if any, should I be targeting in free agency? |
9:17 |
: You can look at just about every position on the Mets and conclude that they could be settled. It requires you assume Peter Alonso is close, and that Jeff McNeil is good enough to stick |
9:18 |
: Perhaps they could stand to upgrade on Guillorme. And they’d probably prefer not to be banking on a Jay Bruce rebound. But if I were them and if I were looking to spend, I’d err toward spending it on the pitching side of things |
9:18 |
: Like everyone else, I don’t know why the Mets wouldn’t be interested in Eovaldi |
9:18 |
: Expect to hear a whole lot about Eovaldi |
9:20 |
: If a free agent needs off-season surgery, where does he get the procedure performed? I assume his former team does not provide it, but do they refer him to someone else? And does the player just pay out of pocket at that point? (This latter point obviously isn’t a big deal for players who have already struck it rich, but it seems like paying for a significant surgery would be a substantial burden for minor-league free agents, non-tender candidates, etc.) |
9:20 |
: So, firstly, I’m not sure — I’m going to text some people right now to try to find out |
9:20 |
https://www.mlb.com/news/free-agent-matt-garza-to-have-shoulder-surger… : Secondly, one possible clue? |
9:21 |
: “Garza’s agent, Nez Balelo of CAA Sports, confirmed Garza will go under the knife with Dr. Neal ElAttrache, the same surgeon who repaired the torn labrum of another Brewers right-hander and CAA client, Jimmy Nelson, in September. After Nelson’s surgery, Brewers GM David Stearns said Nelson would miss a “chunk” of next season. Because Garza’s injury occurred while he played for the Brewers, head team physician William Raasch signed off on the procedure, according to Balelo.” |
9:21 |
: The last sentence being the important one |
9:23 |
: Still doing some googling in the meantime |
9:24 |
https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/3v8sj2/who_pays_for_greg_ho… : Here’s a relevant Reddit thread |
9:25 |
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/19/sports/baseball/harvey-is-covered-l… : And here’s something on Matt Harvey |
9:26 |
: “If Mets pitcher Matt Harvey has Tommy John surgery on his right elbow, it will be paid for, partly, with workers’ compensation insurance. A partly torn ulnar collateral ligament like Harvey’s is considered a workplace injury, just as if he were a truck driver hurt on a loading dock. The basic agreement between major league owners and players requires that teams pay the cost of injuries.” |
9:27 |
: That’s probably enough for now. Should move on to other questions |
9:27 |
9:28 |
: I can’t stand the official MLB twitter account |
9:28 |
: In fairness, I don’t know what it’s like to be young anymore |
9:30 |
: Hi Jeff! If you had to guess, which kind of contract do you think Corbin ends up with? |
9:30 |
: Spitballing here, I could see something like 4yr/$80m. Maybe with one of those fifth-year vesting options where it kicks in if he doesn’t have an elbow injury |
9:31 |
: He’s put a lot of room between himself and Tommy John surgery, but he also doesn’t have a previous record of his 2018 performance level, and some teams are still going to be spooked by that inexplicable velocity drop |
9:32 |
: But, boy, you look at those strikeouts and you see a very good pitcher |
9:32 |
: What was your favorite article you wrote during the 2018 season? |
9:32 |
: Going to be completely honest with you here: I don’t know. I don’t have very good recall for the things that I’ve published. Even September feels like ancient history. It’s all gone |
9:34 |
: Does Sanchez for Realmuto straight-up make sense? They were closely ranked in Fangraphs’ 2018 trade-value rankings, but perhaps Sanchez’s stock has declined enough lately that the Yankees would have to add something? |
9:35 |
: I think it would make more sense for the Marlins than for the Yankees. If you’re the Yankees, there are obvious reasons to prefer Realmuto, but I think it’s still so difficult to forget about how good Sanchez was even just a year ago. And Sanchez provides two extra years of team control. I don’t think the Yankees are in a position where they need to act so urgently |
9:36 |
: Right now, as of this moment, Sanchez and Realmuto project to be almost the same in 2019. Maybe you think that isn’t making enough of what happened in 2018, but the track records matter |
9:37 |
: Keep in mind that the biggest problem with Sanchez was a .197 BABIP |
9:38 |
: What would be the most Royals free agent signing this offseason? |
9:38 |
: Hector Santiago |
9:39 |
: Now that the Mets seem to be going for it this year, are there any other mid rotation or better starters on the trading block? |
9:39 |
: If you really want to roll the dice, I bet you could get Danny Salazar from the Indians |
9:40 |
: It’s possible that Robbie Ray becomes available if the Diamondbacks elect to step back |
9:41 |
: Non-zero chance Marcus Stroman hits the market |
9:42 |
: Dylan Bundy, perhaps |
9:42 |
: Looks thin out there |
9:43 |
: Cubs pick up $20 mil Hamels option, saving the Rangers on the $6 mil buyout they were on the hook for…..but Rangers take Smyly and his $5 mil AAV the same minute. Interesting, huh? |
9:43 |
: Smyly has a $7-million base salary for 2019, with another seven figures in incentives |
9:44 |
: I think it’s pretty clear the Cubs and Rangers were in contact, and this might’ve factored a little into the Smyly move. Made it incrementally easier to get Texas to take on the salary |
9:45 |
: But then, I was just updating the Rangers’ depth chart last night, and, hoo boy, does that team ever need pitching |
9:45 |
: So they probably would’ve been interested in Smyly regardless |
9:45 |
: With all this talk from teams that Bryce Harper will get $400 million, do you think the first team to offer $500 million gets him? |
9:45 |
: Yes. But it’s not going to get there |
9:46 |
: The Padres are missing the big star other tankers had when they started graduating their prospects (Rizzo, Altuve, Freeman, etc.). Should they go out and get one to welcome Tatis and Urias and company to the bigs or wait fir those guys to welcome the younger guys in the system? |
9:46 |
: Remember they thought they were getting that guy in Hosmer |
9:46 |
: After they thought they were extending that guy in Myers |
9:47 |
: When the Astros got good, Altuve had only one strong season under his belt |
9:48 |
: The Padres would love to add a great player — their first great player — but they’re confident the great players are going to come out of their own system, starting any moment |
9:49 |
: This includes Mejia, of course, for whom they traded |
9:49 |
: What kind of deal does my namesake get? |
9:50 |
: Not great. First-half wRC+ of 137, second-half wRC+ of 88. He kind of went all 2017 Corey Dickerson |
9:51 |
: Profiles similar to Jay Bruce a year ago, except that Markakis is also a few years older |
9:52 |
: Could be one of those guys who stays on the market for a while. Thinking 2 years, $20-25 million |
9:53 |
: What would you put your money on: Pujols gets to 3K games, 700 HR or maintains .300 career BA? |
9:53 |
: oh god |
9:53 |
: He’s 308 games away, and he’s 67 homers away (not counting the playoffs) |
9:54 |
: His career average is .302 |
9:54 |
: I’d bet on the last one, with the understanding that there’s some chance Pujols and the Angels come to a financial agreement and he calls it a career before too much longer |
9:55 |
: Between 2017 and 2018, his career average dropped from .305 to .302. He batted .245 over 465 at-bats |
9:55 |
: Thoughts on how many more seasons Kluber can be a top ten SP option? Thanks |
9:55 |
: Two |
9:56 |
: His worst walk rate in any single month this season was 6% |
9:56 |
: He commands the ball so well he should age fairly gracefully |
9:57 |
: What should the Cubs do with Addison Russell? Is there trade value there? Does the situation change if Russell comes out with some contrition? |
9:58 |
: My thoughts aren’t the same as everyone else’s, but the Cubs were probably growing frustrated with Russell even *before* the allegations and the suspension. So I’d take this opportunity to move on, even though it would mean selling Russell for pennies on the dollar in a cold, unfeeling baseball sense |
9:59 |
: Russell’s bat has never developed. Now he’s got even bigger problems. I’d lose Russell and take the PR points |
9:59 |
: What should the padres do this winter? Just buy prospects and take flyers or should they start pushing chips in (I’m worried preller is leaning too far towards the latter)? |
9:59 |
: Dave is there! Dave is there to try to moderate Preller’s most extreme impulses |
10:00 |
: I think it’s obvious the Padres have an outfield logjam. They need to work that out, presumably trading some outfielders for pitching. Can see them targeting interesting starters in their post-hype phase |
10:02 |
: Daniel Norris, Dylan Bundy, maybe Lucas Sims or Cody Reed — strikeout starter options who aren’t out of hope |
10:03 |
: The Padres are at a point where they should begin consolidating. They’re going to have some manner of 40-man roster crunch otherwise. But there’s moving forward, and there’s being over-aggressive. No reason to do the latter |
10:05 |
: Does Jones, Marsh, Suarez and 17 yo lotto ticket get Realmuto? |
10:05 |
: No, but they wouldn’t angrily hang up the phone |
10:05 |
: If you were AJ Preller how would you approach this offseason if ownership was making a push to try and make the playoffs this year? |
10:05 |
: I’d calmly remind ownership the big-league roster lost 96 games |
10:06 |
: Absolute best-case scenario, the Padres are a fringe 2019 contender for the wild card |
10:07 |
: Do you think David Freese really couldn’t get more than 1 year 5 mil on the open market? |
10:07 |
: Last time he was out there, he got 2yr/$11m as a semi-regular. Now he’s a platoon player and he’s two years older than he was |
10:08 |
: If he likes LA, I don’t know why he’d subject himself to the market for the sake of maybe getting an extra $500,000 |
10:08 |
: Tell Appleman to you guys the week after the world series off of chats! |
10:08 |
: I like chats! Chats are easy! |
10:09 |
: Live game chats are not easy. Regular reader chats are enjoyable |
10:09 |
: And this is much simpler than writing a damn article |
10:10 |
: When does the team that trades for Realmuto sign him to an extension? |
10:10 |
: After this season |
10:11 |
: If you could know any one statistic about your own life (e.g., number of hours spent thinking about volcanoes, number of miles hiked), what would it be? |
10:11 |
: Ratio of lives I’ve made better to lives I’ve made worse |
10:12 |
: Will Sheryl ever do a legal chat? There are tons of questions I have for her. |
10:12 |
: Good question! But considering she has a real, you know, legal job, the timing probably isn’t good for a regular chat slot |
10:14 |
: Cubs payroll stay under $245m this year? |
10:14 |
: Yes |
10:14 |
: Odds Bryce Harper goes Kevin Durant and signs for league minimum with the Red Sox? |
10:14 |
: I don’t think I need to answer this question |
10:16 |
: Regarding the great tank debate: Has there been any research into how tanking teams payroll increases when the rebuild is “complete”? Do teams generally save those dollars and go-big or is it owners hoarding a few extra bucks and then returning to their “normal” salaries when competitive? |
10:16 |
: Previously the Astros had a payroll high of $103 million. Mostly spent $70 – 90 million. In 2017, opening-day payroll jumped to $124 million. This year, it jumped to $160 million |
10:17 |
: The Cubs used to spend about $130 million. From 2016 – 2018, they went to $172 million, $172 million, and $182 million |
10:17 |
: Next year will be even higher |
10:17 |
: Limited sample to this point, and there are countless other factors, but the Astros and Cubs have both spent as the winning has demanded it |
10:19 |
: Where do you see Addison Russell landing if the Cubs move him? |
10:19 |
: Could see the Tigers, since they don’t have a good shortstop and they already spent last spring defending the signing of Derek Norris |
10:19 |
: Then there’s the Marlins option, as they might be willing to risk the shortcut to a potential core player |
10:20 |
: Won’t be a good look for the acquiring team, but I’m not convinced there’s any evidence the public actually holds teams accountable for these things long-term |
10:20 |
: Which injury-plagued player would you be most intrigued about seeing what would have happened if he had stayed healthy? |
10:20 |
: The answer is always Ryan Anderson |
10:21 |
: 33% strikeouts as a 20-year-old starter in Triple-A in 2000. 6’10, reached the upper 90s |
10:21 |
: That was Hall-of-Fame talent in an unsustainable body |
10:22 |
: Would you rather sign Lucroy or McCann as a low cost catcher option? |
10:22 |
: Lucroy. He can catch more |
10:26 |
: With Didi Gregorius estimated to receive $12+ million in arbitration, but also not be ready until as late as September, that’s a lot to pay someone who might play very little, even for the Yankees. Should the Yankees try to sign him to an extension to keep him beyond 2019? Non-tender him and move on? Something in between? |
10:27 |
: I think it would be tough for them to non-tender a guy who *might* be ready to be their starting shortstop in the second half. Off the top of my head I could see the Yankees and Gregorius arriving at an agreement around two years and $20 – 24 million or so. Gregorius wouldn’t have to wait that much longer to hit free agency, but the Yankees would also presumably get a deal for 2020 |
10:27 |
: Adrian Beltre is a top __ player of his generation? |
10:27 |
: I don’t know. Ten? Extremely high up there |
10:28 |
: Other players have had better seasons, but very few have had better careers |
10:28 |
: Does Cleveland make sense as a trade partner for the Cubs, given both teams respective outfielder situations? |
10:28 |
: It’s obvious what the Indians might want from the Cubs. It’s less obvious what the Cubs might reasonably want from the Indians |
10:29 |
: I still see the Indians as a decent match with the Padres, although Jankowski is a worse fit now that the Indians re-signed Martin |
10:29 |
: Jeff what do you think of the Mets new GM can you lie to me and say the mets are gonna be good next year please |
10:29 |
: The Mets are likely to be better than people presently assume |
10:30 |
: They went…way off the board with their GM hiring, but at least it’s been demonstrated that the guy is able to communicate with their ownership |
10:31 |
: What do you think the Pirates’ infield looks like next year? Do they perhaps add a cheap 3B or SS as a bridge to Hayes and Tucker? |
10:31 |
: I think they probably stick with Moran as the regular at third, but there is ample room for a better shortstop than Newman |
10:34 |
: There’s not a lot on the free-agent market, but as one under-the-radar name to keep in mind, they’re a possible fit for Erik Gonzalez. Decently powerful, versatile, no route to regular playing time in Cleveland |
10:34 |
: Who wins NL MVP first? Acuna or Soto? Does Buehler win a Cy Young before either of them gets an MVP? |
10:34 |
: More bad things can happen to pitchers. I think Acuna MVP is the most likely to be first |
10:35 |
: Do you know if Dave enjoyed his first year with the Padres? |
10:36 |
: He is glad that he’s there and I do believe he’s enjoying it. It’s also not exactly the job he thought he was going to have |
10:36 |
: Who will be the first “big name” to sign? |
10:36 |
: Trevor Rosenthal, baby! |
10:37 |
: Trying to figure out when last year’s first relevant free agent signed |
10:38 |
: Hisashi Iwakuma signed on November 27, but he didn’t really count anymore |
10:38 |
: Clayton Kershaw will presumably sign a modified, extended contract with the Dodgers today |
10:40 |
: Yusei Kikuchi will be posted soon, and then he’ll have to sign somewhere within 30 days |
10:41 |
: I could see Yasmani Grandal picking a team within the next month? |
10:43 |
: Best Mariners LF of all time? |
10:43 |
: It’s probably Raul Ibanez, although peak Randy Winn had an argument |
10:44 |
: Hi Jeff – what’s your take on PCL MVP Josh Fuentes? Any chance he’s a bench bat for the Rockies in 2018? |
10:45 |
: Doesn’t seem likely, given the presence of McMahon. Fuentes is 1B/3B and of course Arenado isn’t going to budge |
10:45 |
: I’m ready to see offseason transactions. I’m not ready to see Fangraphs writers transactions. It comes so suddenly. Maybe I need FangraphsTradeRumors |
10:46 |
: October/November is hiring season, for baseball teams. So that’s something to keep in mind moving forward |
10:46 |
: 2019 Steamer projections look conservative for WAR totals (outside of Trout) even accounting for the conservative nature of projection systems. Are they still in progress? |
10:46 |
: I think Steamer tends to be more conservative than ZiPS |
10:47 |
: Also worth noting that our playing-time projections are somewhat conservative as well. We never project someone to play in 160 games |
10:47 |
: That doesn’t affect rate statistics like wOBA, but it would affect plain old WAR |
10:47 |
: What do you make of the cubs picking up hamels’ option and and then following trade? |
10:47 |
: They like Hamels but couldn’t afford him without doing something else |
10:48 |
: That’s basically it. They saw enough from Hamels that they thought he was worth slightly more than the equivalent of a qualifying offer |
10:48 |
: It is my understanding that WAR does not consider line-up. If Mike Trout and Mookie Betts were on opposite teams for 2018 and everything else played out the same, I’d assume Trout’s offensive numbers would be even better than they were is there a stat or fair way to judge this or are we not interested in parallel universes? |
10:48 |
: It’s by no means clear that would be true |
10:49 |
: Now, we do know that offensive numbers improve with runners on base |
10:50 |
: Betts came up with the bases empty 67% of the time |
10:50 |
: Trout came up with the bases empty 62% of the time |
10:50 |
: If anything, just based on those numbers alone, Trout’s numbers might’ve been a little *worse*! |
10:51 |
: Thoughts on Kyle Seager’s struggles last year? Do you think he bounces back? |
10:51 |
: In part he was hurt, in part he didn’t know how to respond to the shift. I think he bounces back a little bit offensively, as he resumes pulling the ball in the air with power, but he’s not getting back to his peak. Those days are over |
10:52 |
: Do you think the Cubs resistance to go over the luxury tax for Hamels signifies they aren’t going to make a major push for Harper or Machado? |
10:52 |
: Pretty sure that, even before Hamels’ $20 million, the Cubs already projected to slightly exceed $206 million |
10:53 |
: So they’re blowing past the first threshold |
10:53 |
: Still though, if they want Harper or Machado, they’re going to need more help |
10:53 |
: Does Bryce Harper being on the cover of MLB The Show feel like a play to get more money? I know he’s in line for a big pay day anyway, but now teams have another reason to pony up |
10:53 |
: No they don’t |
10:53 |
: Do you think you could make a call if you just caught one right in family jewels? |
10:54 |
: I could probably groan a few words, but I absolutely could not move myself into the right physical position |
10:55 |
: Is there an ideal balance between OBP and SLG? Can a team be too SLG heavy? Or too OBP heavy? |
10:56 |
: “As a team’s overall OBP goes up, the relative value of SLG goes down, because you don’t need one big hit to drive in a bunch of runs when there’s a decent likelihood of stringing a bunch of smaller hits (or walks) together. And importantly, the inverse is also true; as a team’s OBP goes down, the relative value of SLG goes up, because singles and walks to a bad offensive club are less likely to score runs than a guy hitting a ball over the wall.” |
10:56 |
: What was your last text from Dave Cameron? Was it Hosmer related? |
10:56 |
: It was about the Rays |
10:56 |
: Does Machado’s actions and comments recently drop some teams out of the race for his services? |
10:56 |
: No previously serious contender is now out of the running |
10:57 |
: Machado is one of the only available young six-win players. Teams will tell themselves whatever they have to in order to justify paying what it’ll take to get him and play him |
10:57 |
: If you were Harper where would you sign? |
10:57 |
: I wouldn’t be able to answer that yet |
10:58 |
: Hi Jeff. What was the best underrated trade last season, in your opinion? |
10:58 |
: This is by no means the winner, but the Marlins did well to get Caleb Smith from the Yankees |
10:59 |
: A’s did extremely well to get Ramon Laureano from the Astros |
10:59 |
: Rays deserve credit for getting Joey Wendle from the A’s |
11:01 |
: As I keep looking down the list, those still stand out |
11:01 |
: Twins did well to get Jake Cave |
11:01 |
: Rays did well to get Ji-Man Choi |
11:02 |
: Obviously, if you want to talk about outcomes, the Red Sox killed it when they added Steve Pearce and Nathan Eovaldi |
11:02 |
: What changes can you see being made to help the service time problem? |
11:02 |
: Change the number of days required to count as a full year from 172 to like 50 |
11:02 |
: Make teams really pay an on-the-field penalty for not fielding its best players |
11:03 |
: Should Brodie go after the Craig Kimbrel’s and Zach Britton’s of the world? |
11:03 |
: Don’t think so. I’m not a fan of spending big dollars on proven closers, especially when you’re non-elite |
11:03 |
: Cubs shedding a little salary to use everything they got for Harper? |
11:03 |
: They shed salary to just fit in Hamels |
11:04 |
: All right, I need to get rolling |
11:04 |
: So thank you everybody for hanging out, and I’m sorry for what I didn’t or couldn’t address. We’ll do it again next week at the same time, and until then, be well and have great days |
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.
Hi Jeff, just wanted to let you know that I submitted you a question about Wander Javier of the Minnesota Twins but you must not have received it. You might want to let IT know. I will try back next week, thank you.
I think it’s pretty clear this isn’t funny
I dunno, the longer this goes on the funnier it gets
This went from funny to boring to annoying to flat-out desperate real quick, bud.
I don’t even get it.
A while back, he began asking every author and every chat about Wander Javier. Was entertaining to see the same question in each chat for about a week…
Two months later, after every chat host has said stop and every post on whatever article gets massively downvoted, he continues. For whatever reason..
Mark as spam? Good deterrent as any I’d think.
Asking about a baseball player in a baseball chat is the whole point of the chat. There are lots of experts. I want their opinions. I don’t need to explain myself to you though, tb.25. Wander Javier’s will is stronger than your doubt.