Jeff Sullivan FanGraphs Chat — 7/13/18
9:06 |
: Hello friends |
9:07 |
: Welcome to Friday baseball chat |
9:07 |
: To my knowledge Manny Machado still hasn’t been traded |
9:07 |
: If it were to happen during the course of this chat, well, I probably wouldn’t know |
9:08 |
: Which Austin would you rather, Barnes or Hedges? |
9:08 |
: For a game today, Barnes. For the longer term, Hedges, since Barnes is three years older |
9:09 |
: What is a reasonable return for the Reds to expect for Harvey? |
9:10 |
: Jaime Garcia trade |
9:10 |
: Either one of them |
9:11 |
: Harvey still hasn’t been very good with the Reds, and while maybe another team could squeeze more out of his stuff, he’s obviously been a difficult person to deal with, and right now he doesn’t look like a guy you’d want starting in the playoffs |
9:11 |
: Last day of work today. How should I celebrate tonight? |
9:11 |
: Responsibly |
9:12 |
: Is Castellanos getting slept on? .374 wOBA with a .397 xwOBA and he’s still only 26. His defense is rough to terrible depending on your metric of chose but the bat’ll play. |
9:13 |
: He’s beginning to hit in the mold of J.D. Martinez, and you don’t really want to have him playing anywhere for you in the field, in the mold of J.D. Martinez |
9:14 |
: He’s not as good a hitter as Martinez is, but the profiles are similar, and it’s just too bad his defense sucks because there’s so much to like about him in the box |
9:15 |
: One minor quibble: he’s beaten up on a lot of bad pitching |
9:15 |
: Comes from playing in the worst division in recent memory |
9:16 |
: Of the 248 players with at least 200 plate appearances, Castellanos’ opponent strength ranks 22nd-easiest, according to Baseball Prospectus |
9:16 |
: A bunch of Indians, unsurprisingly, rank even higher |
9:18 |
: Corey Kluber last month 5.03 ERA (15th worst) and 4.72 FIP(22nd worst). How concerned are you? |
9:19 |
: As I look at the numbers, there’s something weird going on — over the past several weeks, Kluber’s arm slot has evidently dropped |
9:21 |
: The movement profile of his cutter has changed, and his breaking ball hasn’t been getting so many whiffs |
9:22 |
: Because at this point there’s no questioning Kluber’s true talent, I’m inclined to downplay the problems here — he could figure this out. He didn’t look like himself in April 2017, after all |
9:23 |
: But I don’t know why the arm slot would change. No reason for that to happen, unless we’re looking at a mechanical deficiency or some underlying injury. Impossible for me to tell which from here |
9:23 |
: Hey Jeff! I was wondering, has any research been done on the effect of a heavy/light schedule on a team’s performance in that stretch? Not so much strength of opposition, but more a schedule with very few days off/doubleheaders/etc? |
9:24 |
: I can’t think of anything off the top of my head, but then, there’s a lot of baseball research being done I’m not aware of |
9:24 |
: With the busy stretches, it’s also not just about performance while busy — it’s also about performance afterward, when players and rosters are simply more taxed |
9:24 |
: In theory, that should even out for everyone by the end. But there’s a reason so many teams like to have an active bullpen Triple-A shuttle. Fresh arms, always at the ready |
9:26 |
: There’s been some discussion about the Yankees trading for another RP in addition to an SP. Is this really necessary? |
9:27 |
: No deadline addition is ever necessary, and the Yankees certainly have more depth in the bullpen than most of their rivals, but I don’t think I’ve ever known a baseball team that had enough good relievers down the stretch |
9:28 |
: Think of it this way: the more good relievers you have, the less you have to ask for from the starters. It reduces the burden on everyone, and in effect makes the rotation stronger on a per-PA basis |
9:28 |
: If baseball seams are white, how much will it affect the batter’s offence performance? |
9:29 |
: Cataclysmically |
9:29 |
: And it would become incredibly dangerous to stand in the box |
9:31 |
: Is any team more sad than the Orioles? |
9:32 |
: The Orioles right now are incredibly sad |
9:32 |
: But if I were to go out on a limb for a moment, might I point to the White Sox? |
9:32 |
: The White Sox are supposed to be building something, and they suck too |
9:33 |
: Very few players in the organization have made meaningful statistical progress. The Orioles have no hope, and that blows, but the White Sox have *decreasing* hope, and that blows in a different way |
9:33 |
: (I’d still much rather be the White Sox) |
9:33 |
: (poor Orioles) |
9:34 |
: Hello friend. Who do you think was the biggest All-Star snub? |
9:35 |
: If I can be completely honest with you for a moment, I don’t care |
9:35 |
: So many players get inserted and replaced I can’t keep track of who has actually made the team |
9:35 |
: I guess Jed Lowrie is on the team now? That’s good |
9:35 |
: I’d point to Eddie Rosario then |
9:36 |
: 3.4 WAR this season, 5.0 WAR over the past calendar year. That goes with a 132 wRC+ (679 plate appearances) |
9:37 |
: Oh, Anthony Rendon too |
9:38 |
: 3.1 WAR this season, 5.9 WAR over the past calendar year. That goes with a 133 wRC+ (581 plate appearances) |
9:38 |
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9:39 |
: And you’d never know it from reading the internet or watching TV |
9:39 |
: Is the baseball world ready for JRam to catch up to Trout in WAR? |
9:39 |
: Even if he does, it’s temporary. It’s always temporary |
9:40 |
: And of course Ramirez gets to hit against much, much easier opponents |
9:40 |
: According to BP, Jose Ramirez has faced the second-worst average opponent for any regular hitter in baseball |
9:41 |
: Ramirez is great! Trout is far better |
9:41 |
: Will there be a fresh new wave of disappointment or will it just be perceived as more of the same if the A’s catch the Mariners in September and pass them for WC2? |
9:42 |
: Kind of depends how it happens. Do the A’s stay white-hot, or do the Mariners just collapse? |
9:42 |
: I’m thankful that at least the WC2 race in the AL is becoming a little more interesting. No one wants to have the playoff picture settled in early July |
9:44 |
: Less than a month ago, the A’s were 11 games behind the Mariners. Now the difference is five. Over that stretch, the A’s have outscored their opponents by 34, while the Mariners have been outscored by 22 |
9:44 |
: If the Angels were going to fade, at least someone has stepped into their place |
9:45 |
: What’s thoughts on Tony Kemp? Whats he doing next year? Do you believe he will every be an everyday hitter? Thank you |
9:47 |
: So the thing about Kemp is that he makes very weak contact |
9:47 |
: He’s hit exactly two balls this season at 100+ miles per hour. They both clocked in at 100.2 |
9:49 |
: Out of the 303 players with at least 100 batted balls, Kemp ranks 298th in average exit velocity, and 303rd — last — in peak exit velocity |
9:50 |
: He runs well, but he doesn’t run *so* well that he can beat out every grounder |
9:51 |
: In this day and age, I think it’s important to recognize the upside in guys who can walk as often as they strike out. Kemp’s approach is just fine. But given his extremely limited power profile, I think he’s most likely to end up as a supersub |
9:51 |
: Hi Jeff, Theoretical question: What would a player’s OBP have to be to justify a spot on a major league roster if they had a .000 average and played average defense at their position? |
9:52 |
: This is where the Guts page comes in
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9:52 |
: Let’s just say we want this guy to have a league-average wOBA even though he literally never gets a hit |
9:53 |
: The league-average wOBA is .314. The walk value you see there is .689 |
9:53 |
: So he’d need a walk every 2.19 plate appearances |
9:54 |
: That’s an OBP of .456 |
9:54 |
: That’s actually a little lower than I would’ve guessed |
9:55 |
: But remember the current league-average OBP is .318 |
9:56 |
: How this guy walks so often without ever getting a hit, I haven’t the foggiest |
9:58 |
: Is it feasible Ohtani could finish this season as only a hitter, get TJ surgery this winter, play next season as only a hitter, then both pitch and hit the following year? |
9:59 |
: When Shin-Soo Choo had Tommy John surgery at the end of September 2007, he wasn’t playing again until the middle of the following May |
10:00 |
: T.J. Rivera had Tommy John surgery last September, and he’s still rehabbing |
10:01 |
: Now, Choo and Rivera both needed to get to the point where they could hit *and* play defense. Ohtani, presumably, wouldn’t have to worry about the second part |
10:01 |
: Maybe he could be ready to hit by next May. But obviously the Angels are going to have to chart their own course here — not much precedent for a rehabbing pitcher who is simultaneously a semi-regular DH |
10:02 |
: TJ rehab is grueling and draining, and Ohtani might not always have the mental energy needed to play in a live game |
10:05 |
: Is there a compelling reason to keep post-deadline waiver trades? For a sport that wants more attention, wouldn’t it be better to say “This is the trade deadline! Now or never!” Watch MLB Network all day!”? |
10:05 |
: I think they should just abolish the distinction and have one single set deadline around the middle or end of August |
10:05 |
: Dave wrote about this years ago! |
10:06 |
: Re: your Machado article, how does the value of keeping such a player off a competitor affect the trade price? I.e., should the Dodgers or Diamondbacks be willing to pay more for Machado just to keep him off the rival team? |
10:06 |
: In theory this is kind of baked into every trade. Every time you trade for a good player, you’re keeping that good player from going to a rival |
10:07 |
: Now, rivals aren’t always in position to want the same upgrades, but it’s not like as far as this deadline is concerned, it’s Machado or bust. Even if someone loses out on Machado, that team can go get somebody else and improve |
10:08 |
: So to me it’s more or less a non-factor. I mean, it does matter a little bit to keep someone away from your competition, but that’s always been true, so the precedent holds |
10:09 |
: Who would you rather have long term: Albert Almora or Ian Happ? |
10:10 |
: Happ |
10:11 |
: Almora is the better defender, and he makes more contact, but I prefer Happ’s discipline, and Happ’s *quality* of contact is far superior |
10:11 |
: Consider, for example, expected wOBA on contact |
10:12 |
: Happ ranks 15th in baseball. Almora ranks 280th |
10:13 |
: A few chats back (and I don’t even know if it was yours) someone said they just finished watching The Office and have determined that Jim and Pam are terrible people; if that person is here can he/she please expand on this cause its interesting. |
10:13 |
https://www.buzzfeed.com/hilarywardle/his-hair-is-pretty-shit-as-well?… : Wasn’t mine, but |
10:13 |
: That’s just Jim, but still |
10:14 |
: I know you don’t care about the Hall of Fame, but Willians Astudillo is a first-ballot shoo-in, right? |
10:14 |
: He struck out 🙁 |
10:14 |
: Who are you most excited to see in the home run derby? |
10:14 |
: A good book |
10:15 |
: Let’s be honest — they’re all perfectly adequate home-run hitters |
10:15 |
: And in a contest like this, it’s impossible to predict who could get hot. I mean, Todd Frazier won the damn thing! |
10:17 |
: Harper and Schwarber are likely to hit the most impressive home runs, if that’s your thing |
10:17 |
: It’s sad there will be no Stanton or Judge |
10:18 |
: I couldn’t give a shit about watching Bregman try to go deep |
10:18 |
: Quietly the most interesting part might be Baez, because everything is going to be in the zone. He never gets to do that on TV! |
10:19 |
: Is Trevor Story actually really good? Potential 5 win player down the road? |
10:19 |
: Pretty easy to figure this one out — Story has cut down on his strikeouts |
10:20 |
: His chase rate is down, his in-zone swing rate is up, and his contact is up |
10:20 |
: I don’t think he’s really going to be a 5-win player, but he is the best version of himself at the moment |
10:22 |
: Will the Mets get more for Familia than the Royals got for Herrera? |
10:22 |
: By a little bit, yeah, I think so |
10:22 |
: It’ll be within the margin of error, because the Mets aren’t going to get a blockbuster, but they can do better and even besides that, the trading team will owe Familia less money than the Nationals were poised to owe Herrera, since they got him so early |
10:23 |
: Am I right in thinking that adding Seth Lugo makes most sense for our pitching needs? Can be an effective multi-inning reliever while also stepping up as a SP if needed and at least able to give SP’s a break if needed, assuming everyone stays healthy. I am thinking I should add Marco Estrada and Seth Lugo, thoughts? Or do I add Zach Britton and Seth Lugo? Also, Guillermo Heredia has been exposed, what do I do there? Add Asdrubal Cabrera to play 2b and move Dee to CF right now and then Cabrera to UT when Cano returns? Or I can maybe talk Scott into just playing Haniger in CF, Gamel in RF and Span in LF more often. |
10:23 |
: This is way too much of a question |
10:23 |
: Which is probably actually an accurate portrayal of the man himself |
10:24 |
: Yes, Seth Lugo would make sense for the Mariners. No, I don’t think the Mariners have what it would take to acquire Seth Lugo, because the farm system is a catastrophe |
10:25 |
: Maybe if they took on some bad money, but it’s not like the Mariners should include Jay Bruce |
10:25 |
: The Mariners’ best prospect is probably Kyle Lewis, who has a .310 OBP in the Cal League |
10:26 |
: How much does the bidding war for Harper change this offseason if numbers don’t improve much in the 2nd half? |
10:27 |
: It depends. Right now Harper has almost exactly the same expected wOBA as he had last season |
10:27 |
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10:27 |
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10:28 |
: If Harper just has an unlucky second half, the market will still be incredibly strong. If even his xwOBA tanks, though, that would make a difference. That would take more of the shine off the apple |
10:29 |
: What do teams typically do at the deadline when they’re competitive a year earlier than planned? What advice would you give the Braves and Phillies in that regard? |
10:29 |
: Last year’s Brewers added Anthony Swarzak, Jeremy Jeffress, and Neil Walker |
10:30 |
: The 2015 Cubs added Dan Haren and Tommy Hunter |
10:30 |
: and Fernando Rodney and Austin Jackson! |
10:31 |
: The 2015 Astros added Scott Kazmir, Carlos Gomez, Mike Fiers, and Oliver Perez |
10:32 |
: The Astros made the biggest push, with the Gomez deal. Somewhat importantly, Gomez wasn’t a rental, not that it worked out for them in the end |
10:33 |
: Now, every circumstance is different. If the Phillies believe trading for Machado now would give them a leg up in offseason negotiations, that’s something to factor in |
10:33 |
: But generally speaking, I think when you’re early, you make more subtle deadline tweaks that don’t subtract from the longer-term future. Or if you want to make a splash, you make a splash for a player who’s around for more than a couple of months |
10:34 |
: I got Jose Ramirez the other day at +2800 to win AL MVP. Do you think he has a realistic chance to win even with Trout’s historical performance? |
10:34 |
: He finished in third place last year, and he’s been better than the two guys who finished in front of him |
10:35 |
: Trout has cooled off a little bit and Ramirez has only continued to get more and more exposure. Mookie Betts might end up the real competition |
10:36 |
: Who would say no: Robles for Realmuto? |
10:36 |
: Before the year, the Nationals. Now, probably the Marlins, at least for the time being given that Robles has missed much of the season due to injury |
10:37 |
: Going to guess the Marlins would want to trade Realmuto for at least three players to improve their chances of hitting with one |
10:39 |
: Gaussman and Machado for Frazier, Tate and Andujar, who says no? |
10:39 |
: Yankees |
10:39 |
: Wouldn’t want to give up Andujar for Machado, and even though Gausman is cost-controlled for a bit, he’s not so much better than other rental starters the Yankees could get for cheaper |
10:40 |
: Why deal with the Orioles front office when you might just be able to go get Tyson Ross for a couple of months? |
10:40 |
: Do you think the Richards news makes it more likely or less likely that Ohtani will pitch again this year? |
10:40 |
: Independent of one another |
10:41 |
: The Angels aren’t realistically playing for anything anymore, and with Ohtani they’re going to try to be as careful as possible |
10:42 |
: Hey Jeff, what’s the meaning behind the Rays’ new stadium? I thought they wanted to get out of FL, or at least move to an area that’s populated with… um, baseball fans? |
10:43 |
: I can’t speak to all of the details regarding the problems with the Trop, but the Ybor City stadium site is supposed to be a lot easier for more people to access |
10:45 |
: The Rays are actually pretty popular on TV. A market is there. Those people just don’t go to the ballpark. It’s not a lack of interest |
10:46 |
: Would the Mets do Wheeler and Familia for Clint Frazier, straight-up? |
10:46 |
: Close. They’d probably ask for a second piece of lesser but moderate interest |
10:47 |
: Really just comes down to where the Mets scouts are on Frazier’s potential. If they still think of him as a special prospect, they’re not going to get a better headliner |
10:48 |
: Can you approximate what it would take to trade for Scooter Gennett this year? |
10:48 |
: You’d be trading for a year and a half of team control |
10:48 |
: Gennett has been worth 5.5 WAR since the start of last season |
10:48 |
: I can guarantee you that front offices out there are still skeptical, given what Gennett was for so many years |
10:51 |
: When Oakland traded for a year of Ben Zobrist, they gave up Boog Powell, John Jaso, and Daniel Robertson |
10:51 |
: Robertson was the No. 66 prospect according to Baseball America at the time |
10:52 |
: Let’s say it would take something similar — a No. 51-100 prospect as the headliner |
10:52 |
: Presumably closer to 100 than 51 |
10:54 |
: What do you make of Dereck Rodriguez? Is there a top-60 starter in there? |
10:55 |
: I think he’s pretty interesting, and he’s been a quick riser, but there isn’t yet a putaway pitch. Probably needs some more depth on his changeup. For now, he’s a big-league No. 4 |
10:56 |
: Where can the Braves realistically boost their lineup? Ender and Dansby are the two “black holes”, but their defense seems to make up for their lack of hitting. |
10:57 |
: You could turn Camargo, Swanson, and a third player into a SS/3B job share, assuming you aren’t actually the world’s biggest Charlie Culberson fan |
10:57 |
: But the Braves’ easiest upgrade would be on the pitching side, for sure |
10:57 |
: What does the return for a prospective Whit Merrifield look like? |
10:58 |
: Versatile, cost-controlled, but already heading into his age-30 season. Merrifield would probably get something kind of similar to what Gennett could get, even though they’re different players under different circumstances |
11:00 |
: What possible adjustment do you think pitchers can make to Gleyber Torres? He’s looked pretty good at the dish in his debut so far. |
11:00 |
: Fastballs up and breaking stuff away |
11:00 |
: Nothing too crazy, but this is a guy who’s already struck out a quarter of the time |
11:01 |
: I like Torres and I like where he’s going, but he’s not an unbeatable player |
11:01 |
: Will the Braves and Phillies remain in the NL East race to the end, or will Washington start playing to its capabilities? |
11:02 |
: It’s a big gap to make up, right? So even though I assume the Nationals will improve as they get healthier, the Braves and Phillies are right there several games up, and they’re all going to be in the mix at the end |
11:02 |
: Fun race! |
11:03 |
: Who wins AL Cy Young for the 1st half of the season? |
11:03 |
: Sale |
11:04 |
: Been the best pitcher even before you factor in opponent strength |
11:04 |
: Do you think Dan Vogelbach is going to get an extended look in the bigs this season? |
11:04 |
: No, but he should |
11:05 |
: Ryon Healy is just not a good everyday player |
11:05 |
: Having gone to school with Jordan Zimmermann, I keep close tabs on him. Do you think he’s pitched well enough this year after the DL stint to possibly get moved? Assuming the Tigers eat some/a lot of his contract |
11:05 |
: I don’t know how you begin to move that contract, but Zimmermann is definitely back to being a pretty good starting pitcher |
11:06 |
: But he’s still due like $62 million through 2020 |
11:06 |
: Tigers would have to pay him down dramatically |
11:08 |
: Is there any reason to believe that Trevor Bauer’s 4.6% HR/FB isn’t just an anomaly? His career mark is 11.0%. |
11:08 |
: It’s an anomaly |
11:08 |
: Over the past decade, out of all starters with at least 500 innings, the lowest HR/FB% is 7.4% |
11:09 |
: Clayton Kershaw’s career mark is 8.0% |
11:10 |
: How do you utilize SIERA, and what’s the difference between FIP and SIERA? |
11:10 |
: I don’t |
11:10 |
: Would you rather see the Rays get their proposed stadium built or the team relocate entirely? |
11:10 |
: I would like to see them get their stadium built, provided they pay enough of the cost (which they will not, because they are a baseball team) |
11:11 |
: I get why relocation happens sometimes, but I don’t like it. I don’t think it’s good to the old city, nor do I think it’s the preferred origin story for the new one |
11:12 |
: What was wrong with me before my DL stint? Unreported injury or mechanical/mental struggles? |
11:12 |
: Just a straight-up BABIP problem. Not saying there wasn’t anything mechanical going on, but I wouldn’t say it’s anything to worry about. Sanchez will be fine |
11:13 |
: What are your thoughts on Jesse Winker ROS and long-term? |
11:13 |
: Good hitter, bad fielder. Just in those general terms he’s like an NL version of Nick Castellanos |
11:13 |
: All right, I need to get rolling |
11:13 |
: So thank you everybody for hanging out, and I’m sorry for what I didn’t or couldn’t address. We’ll do it again next week at the same time, and until then, be well and have great days |
Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.
Hey, I am the one who posted about Jim and Pam being the absolute worst. If I find some time in the day, I’ll give you treatise on the matter!
For those interested, it was a few back-and-forths with Dan in this chat:
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/dan-szymborski-fangraphs-chat-6-18-18/