Joe Mauer and the Rule of 2,000

(Photo: Keith Allison)
Two thousand hits is not 3,000, and yet there was plenty of reason to celebrate Joe Mauer reaching that milestone on Thursday night at Target Field via a two-run single against the White Sox. If nothing else, it shores up the 35-year-old catcher-turned-first baseman’s case for Cooperstown, because 2,000 hits has functioned as a bright-line test for Hall of Fame voters for the past several decades. Neither the BBWAA nor the various small committees has elected a position player with fewer than 2,000 hits whose career crossed into the post-1960 expansion era, no matter their merits.
Just 34 of the 157 position players in the Hall for their major-league playing careers (including Monte Ward, who made a mid-career conversion from the mound to shortstop) have fewer than 2,000 hits, and only 11 of them even played in the majors past World War II:
| Player | Years | H |
|---|---|---|
| Bill Dickey | 1928-43, ’46 | 1,969 |
| Rick Ferrell | 1929-44, ’47 | 1,692 |
| Hank Greenberg | 1930, ’33-41, ’45-47 | 1,628 |
| Ernie Lombardi | 1931-47 | 1,792 |
| Joe Gordon | 1938-43, ’46-50 | 1,530 |
| Lou Boudreau | 1938-52 | 1,779 |
| Ralph Kiner | 1946-55 | 1,451 |
| Phil Rizzuto | 1941-42, ’46-56 | 1,588 |
| Jackie Robinson | 1947-56 | 1,518 |
| Roy Campanella | 1948-57 | 1,161 |
| Larry Doby | 1947-59 | 1,515 |
Eight of the 11 players on that list had substantial career interruptions that contributed to their falling short of the milestone. Dickey, Gordon, Greenberg, Kiner, and Rizzuto all lost multiple seasons to military service, while Campanella, Doby, and Robinson were prevented from playing in the majors due to the presence of the color line, which fell on April 15, 1947 (71 years ago this Sunday) with Robinson’s debut. Of the other three, Ferrell and Lombardi were constrained by spending their whole careers as catchers; the former, a two-time batting champion, was classified as 4-F by the time the war rolled around, while the latter, one of the Hall’s lightest-hitting catchers (and the lowest-ranked in JAWS), was too old for the draft.
For anyone who’s spent time advocating for Hall of Fame candidates, the “Rule of 2,000” is maddening, because it acts as a proxy for career length while ignoring not only the factors that contributed to interruptions but also the value that players create via walks, power, baserunning, and defense. Here are the top eligible Hall candidates with fewer than 2,000 hits in terms of Baseball-Reference WAR, along with their JAWS rank at their position
| Rk | Player | Years | H | rWAR | JAWS Rk |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Bobby Grich | 1970-1986 | 1,833 | 71.1 | 7th @ 2B |
| 2 | Andruw Jones | 1996-2012 | 1,933 | 62.8 | 10th @ CF |
| 3 | Mark McGwire | 1986-2001 | 1,626 | 62.2 | 17th @ 1B |
| 4 | Shoeless Joe Jackson | 1908-1920 | 1,772 | 62.2 | 13th @ RF |
| 5 | Sal Bando | 1966-1981 | 1,790 | 61.5 | 16th @ 3B |
| 6 | Jim Edmonds | 1993-2010 | 1,949 | 60.4 | 15th @ CF |
| 7 | Dick Allen | 1963-1977 | 1,848 | 58.7 | 17th @ 3B |
| 8 | Bobby Bonds | 1968-1981 | 1,886 | 57.9 | 22nd @ RF |
| 9 | Robin Ventura | 1989-2004 | 1,885 | 56.1 | 19th @ 3B |
| 10 | Jimmy Wynn | 1963-1977 | 1,665 | 55.9 | 17th @ CF |
| 19 | Minnie Minoso | 1949-1980 | 1,963 | 50.5 | 22nd @ LF |
| 30 | Thurman Munson | 1969-1979 | 1,558 | 46.1 | 12th @ C |
| 39 | Gil Hodges | 1943, ’47-63 | 1921 | 44.9 | 36th @ 1B |
| 41 | Bill Freehan | 1961-1976 | 1,591 | 44.8 | 14th @ C |
| 47 | Tony Oliva | 1962-1976 | 1,917 | 43.1 | 31st @ RF |
Jackson, of course, is ineligible for the Hall due to his lifetime ban, and it’s hardly a mystery why McGwire is on the outside looking in; his shortage of hits underscores the degree to which he’s viewed by many as a one-dimensional player whose accomplishments are solely a product of performance-enhancing drugs. Allen, Grich, Jones, and Minoso are are players I profiled at length in The Cooperstown Casebook because I found their cases so compelling. Grich, whose career ended at age 36 due to a back injury, is the best second baseman outside the Hall in terms of JAWS. Allen, who departed the majors at age 35, in part due to alcoholism, has a seven-year peak WAR (45.9) that’s solidly above the standard at third base (43.0). The same is true for Jones, who also exited at 35, with regards to center fielders (46.5 peak vs 44.6 for the average Hall center fielder). The career of Minoso, whom Orlando Cepeda called “The Jackie Robinson for all Latinos,” was forestalled by the color line; he was deprived of anywhere from two to five seasons, depending upon which of the multiple conflicting sources one believes with regards to his birth date.
Munson, who died in a 1979 plane crash at the age of 32, is a former MVP who caught for three pennant winners and two champions; his 37.0 peak score surpasses the standard at catcher. Bando, a four-time All-Star who manned the hot corner for the A’s during their mid-1970s dynasty, has a 44.4 peak score, above the standard at third base. Guys like Freehan, Ventura, and Wynn aren’t bad Hall candidates, but they’re not even the best at their positions on this list, so they have no chance, all of them fell off the BBWAA ballot after their first year due to the notorious “Five Percent Rule,” as did Bando, Edmonds, Grich, and even Allen (though he was reinstated). Hodges and Oliva don’t fare well by JAWS, but they’re popular candidates among many. The latter, a three-time batting champion whose knee injuries shortened his career, missed by one vote on the 2015 Golden Era Committee ballot (as did Allen), and the former is the only player to receive at least 60% of the BBWAA vote and not gain eventual entry (save for still-eligible BBWAA candidates).
As for Mauer, his offensive decline since his concussion-necessitated move from catcher to first base after the 2013 season somewhat obscures the merits of his case, but what he did before moving makes for a strong resumé: six All-Star appearances, three Gold Gloves, three batting titles (the only catcher who can make that claim), 11 other top-five finishes in a slash stat, and an MVP award. The year he won that award, 2009, his .365/.444/.587 line made him the first (and to date only) catcher to win the “Slash Stat” Triple Crown: his batting average and on-base percentage from that season are the highest of any catcher since World War II.
Even with just 920 games behind the plate, Mauer’s 39.0 peak WAR is 4.5 wins above the standard for catchers (the average for all Hall of Famers at the position; players are classified by where they accrued the most value) and ranks fifth among backstops behind Gary Carter, Johnny Bench, Mike Piazza, and Ivan Rodriguez, all enshrined. (Yes, Mauer’s seven best seasons are all from his catching days.) His 54.5 career WAR ranks eighth among catchers and is a full win above the standard. His 46.7 JAWS ranks seventh, the highest of any catcher outside the Hall.
In a prime example of the extent to which fans have been conditioned to side with billionaire owners instead of millionaire players when it comes to salaries, Mauer has spent his first base years as a target for Twins fans who buy the company line that his $23 million annual salary prevented the team from spending elsewhere, as though the Pohlad family profits should be of more concern to paying customers than the strength of the team’s rotation. Fortunately, Mauer is coming off his best full season as a first baseman (3.4 rWAR, 2.2 fWAR) and is off to an even hotter start this year (.412/.545/.529), one that suggests he’s still got a few good years left in that bat, whether in Minnesota or elsewhere.
Now, if we can only get Chase Utley — who’s 10th in JAWS among second basemen — another 144 hits…
Brooklyn-based Jay Jaffe is a senior writer for FanGraphs, the author of The Cooperstown Casebook (Thomas Dunne Books, 2017) and the creator of the JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score) metric for Hall of Fame analysis. He founded the Futility Infielder website (2001), was a columnist for Baseball Prospectus (2005-2012) and a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated (2012-2018). He has been a recurring guest on MLB Network and a member of the BBWAA since 2011, and a Hall of Fame voter since 2021. Follow him on BlueSky @jayjaffe.bsky.social.
I think the Hall standard number Mauer may be looking for is not 2000 hits but 3500 times on base, which he’s about three years away from. If he can get there he probably has a good chance, especially if he stays with the Twins and finds some playoff success.
Looking at the times on base list really makes Rusty Staub stand out, too.
That is the “stat” I was thinking is missing from those charts.
A lot of those guys were walked a lot and pitched carefully because of their power. Their “lack” of hit wasn’t due to a weak hit tool but because opponents would pitch around them.
Bobby Grich, for one, racked up 1087 walks against 1277 strikeouts.
the “Rule of 2,000” is maddening.
Who says this is a rule? Isn’t this a case of correlation and not causation? HoFers typically play a long time. Players who play a long time typically rack up a lot of hits. Thus, hitters in the hall typically have > 2000 hits. Guys like Jones, McGwire, and Edmonds have not gotten into the hall because they fell short of 2000 hits.
At the end of 1998, Barry Bonds had 1917 hits and 99.2 WAR.
At the end of 1928, Babe Ruth had 1904 hits and 118.8 WAR.
He is not sniffing the HOF. Not good long enough and even his peak he only had one great year as a hitter. As catcher he definitely had a chance to be HOF before that concussion, but his bat has not been HOF material at 1B
only one great year as a hitter? 3 batting titles is not 1 good year
Really is a shame he couldn’t stay catching. He’d have been rememnered as one of the top all time, but the “such a bad hitter for a 1b” rhetoric hurts.
Since becoming a full time 1B in 2014, his wRC+ is in the range of 105 – isn’t that a bad hitter for a 1B?
I don’t think Kevbot was trying to refute the idea Mauer’s been a bad hitter for 1B. Rather saying that were he not such a bad hitter for 1B and well known as a bad hitter for 1B, he’d be remembered as one of the best C of all time (which he is/ was).
Too bad they didn’t move him away from catcher to start his career. He probably have a few more batting titles and going for 3,000 hits.
Utley did sign a two year deal. If he finishes this season and the next with the 73 hits he had in 2017, he’ll end up … still four hits shy of 2000.
Twins fan here, I don’t hate that contract because of opportunity cost, I dislike it because the Twins org is always cheap, and if they were for once going to hand out a $20 mil contact why did it have to go to a guy who everyone know was going to have to stop catching, when so much of his value was tied up in getting that offense out of that position.
At something like 18-20 war over the course of that contract, it’s not a total albatross, but again, everyone knew Mauer’s knees were done, and there were legit questions about how that bat would play at first (the fact that he remains above average at first with his offensive profile is actually in itself amazing). Seemed more like a P.R. move than a baseball move, glad we still have him, but still a poor baseball decision, they effectively did what we all credit the Cardinals for being smart enough not to do with Pujols, pay the big bucks to feel good about keeping your home grown guy when you know he won’t be worth it.
“Everyone knew Mauer’s knee were done” [insert crying emoji] He
had just came off a season hitting .365/.444/.587 as a 26 year old…
yeah… that merits an extension
I’ve heard people who reject Mauer’s HoF case but think Jorge Posada was snubbed. Everyone needs to stop being silly about this. The guy was one of the best catchers of all time for 1000 games, then slowly rebuilt his career after multiple brain injuries and is now an above-average first baseman. He has been the face of a mid-market franchise for 15 years, and he has helped lead them to the playoffs in 4 of those years, including an MVP season when the Twins won one of the most memorable tiebreaker games in history. If he doesn’t get elected, it would just confirm the blatant East Coast bias among HoF voters.
I know the East Coast bias in HoF voting is widely accepted as true, however, none of Willie Randolph, Graig Nettles, Thurman Munson, Don Mattingly, Jorge Posada, Bernie Williams, or Paul O’Neill ever even sniffed the HOF. The first three probably belong in the Hall and the last three don’t, but none were helped by playing for multiple Yankees word series winners, or being the face of the franchise for many years (in Mattingly’s case).
On the other hand, Kirby Puckett went in first ballot.
Part of the problem is the vocal minority of fans who think that if Mauer is not hitting .350 with 30 home runs that he’s a failure due to his contract. The move from the Metrodome to Target field took away a lot of his home run power. He compensated by hitting a lot of doubles until his concussion. It doesn’t help that the Twins front office was always subtly bitching about his contract. The value of the Twins rose immensely after they moved to Target Field. The Pohlads can spend a little more of that money on the team.
So is Grich the #1 nonsteroid snub at this point? Is there an argument for someone else?
Who is the biggest pitcher snub and why is it Mussina?
Lou Whitaker raises his hand.
Rose is a “nonsteroid snub” I guess. Not sure if you want to count him. After that there’s a reasonable group around Grich – Bill Dahlen, Whitaker, Larry Walker, Rolen, Edgar, Lofton, Graig Nettles – who all have fairly similar cases.
Edmonds
Yeah, they always seem to snub the great but not elite power hitters who also played elite defense like Edmonds, Jones, and Rolen, although the latter was also hurt (pun not intended) by being significantly injury-prone in the second half of his career.
Nettles and Bando both surprise me, because if you grew up watching ball in the ’70s, they were constantly on TV, making circus plays, and leading their teams to World Series wins. Third baseman have just always been undervalued by the Hall of Fame. I wonder when they’re going to figure that out… it doesn’t seem like it’ll be anytime soon with both Scott Rolen and Dick Allen seeming like longshots. As for Sal Bando: he was considered the team leader by his own teammates. This was especially important during Charlie O. Finley’s reign. Reggie has written multiple autobiographies, and in every one, he stresses that, yeah, it was a wild clubhouse, but that lunatic bunch won five straight division titles and 3 straight World Series. Reggie repeats that he was not the leader of the team, nor was Catfish, Vida, Joe Rudi, Fingers, or any of the other obvious guys… it was definitely Bando.
Jay,
In paragraph 3 you have the “former” and “latter” switched. Lombardi was the 2 time batting champ. Ferrell ranks last in Jaws.
Good article.
Why do you have Dick Allen as a third baseman? he played 150 more games at first than at third.
From the article:
“players are classified by where they accrued the most value“
Oh good, given decent health Yadier Molina should reach 2,000 hits by the time he retires.