Joe Panik: The Other Brandon Crawford

Strictly based on WAR, the top middle-infield tandem so far has been playing half the time in Miami. The season hasn’t been a complete disaster for the Marlins, because they’ve observed steps forward by Dee Gordon and Adeiny Hechavarria, and that bodes well for the future, if the present is a little bit shot. Also based on WAR, the Marlins’ lead is about as small as it gets. Right on their heels is the Giants’ tag-team of Brandon Crawford and Joe Panik. The difference is something like one-tenth of one point. Let’s not split figurative hairs.

It’s a really interesting evolution that’s taking place in San Francisco. Crawford’s offensive development has been something to behold, starting out as a glove-first shortstop with a better bat than most pitchers. Crawford, now, is one of the best shortstops in baseball, provided the season doesn’t wear him down. But any attention paid to Crawford is attention not paid to Panik. And while Panik didn’t begin his big-league career in the same sort of way, he’s also reaching a level at the plate few would’ve imagined. Joe Panik isn’t just a slap hitter. Joe Panik is a genuine threat!

When the Giants first promoted Panik to the majors, they admitted they didn’t think he was ready. He was just going to get some on-the-job training, as the Giants were desperate, and you can see now how quickly Panik has adjusted to the competition level. This isn’t the point of the article, but here are the top three lefties hitting against lefties since the start of last season (by wRC+):

  1. Anthony Rizzo
  2. Brandon Crawford
  3. Joe Panik

In seventh, by the way, is Nori Aoki. It’s not a coincidence. The Giants have a plan here, and it would be tough to argue it isn’t successful.

Even the rushed version of Panik held up. Last year, he was an above-average hitter, spraying the ball around and making a ton of contact. But conclusions were reached about his ceiling, because he went deep just once in nearly 300 regular-season trips to the plate. It didn’t appear Panik had power. Guys who don’t have power have trouble drawing consistent walks. Guys without power and walks have low offensive ceilings. No reason Panik couldn’t be useful, but I’d say he fell short of exciting.

In March, an answer to a question, and an answer of certain intrigue, in hindsight:

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Over time, my swing is actually going to lead to more power. I’m not too concerned about that right now.

Panik homered on Sunday. He homered last Wednesday. He’s up to four homers, in far fewer plate appearances than a year ago, and he’s more than doubled his isolated power. Of maybe even greater relevance: Panik has lowered his groundball rate 11 percentage points, and he’s increased his fly-ball rate 12 percentage points. It’s one of the biggest fly-ball-rate increases in baseball, and that’s the sort of thing that tends to mean something.

Panik is changing, and Panik is growing. Under the eye of Hensley Meulens and the rest of the coaching staff, Panik is hitting the ball with more selective authority, and he hasn’t even sacrificed any contact. While Panik will never blossom into a slugger, he can turn into a guy who slugs more pitches, and here let’s take a look at some big swings in approach.

In the following plot, you’ll see 2014 compared against 2015. There are two statistics. The first one is groundball rate on pulled batted balls. The second one, somewhat related, is pull rate on all fly balls.

panik-2014-2015

The simple takeaway: far fewer of Panik’s pulled batted balls have been on the ground. And when he’s hit a fly ball, he’s been a lot more likely to hit it toward right field.

Maybe these rates don’t mean much to you. Let’s put them in context by considering percentile ranks. First, for groundball rate on pulled batted balls:

  • 2014: 88th percentile
  • 2015: 9th

Panik went from one of the highest rates in baseball to one of the lowest rates in baseball. That one’s easy. Now, for pull rate on fly balls:

  • 2014: 1st percentile
  • 2015: 64th

Panik went from one of the lowest rates in baseball to a rate comfortably in the upper half. A year ago, Panik just about never pulled a fly ball. Now he still doesn’t do it frequently, but he does it way more. I know all about the nature of the small samples, but I can’t not be interested in swings of that magnitude.

Speaking of swings, we have to look. The following are against similar pitches in similar counts. First, 2014:

panik-swing (1)

And, 2015:

panik-swing (2)

As always, comparing individual swings carries a great margin of error. You don’t know if what you’re seeing is representative. But let’s just say. What might we observe here? Panik is clearly quick to the baseball. We already know he has to be, based on his contact rate. There’s a change in the behavior of the front foot — the second small step is gone, with Panik just lowering his heel. In the 2014 swing, Panik is more out over his front foot, while the more recent swing seems to be getting more from the back leg. And look at how Panik finishes. Previously, he cut himself off some. In the more recent swing, he turns his whole back to the camera. He finishes higher, having swung to get more loft. In short, it just looks like the 2015 version of Panik is a hitter who isn’t just content to put the ball in play.

I can’t speak to how representative those swings might be, but when you blend them with the numbers, you do get a certain picture. Sometimes, a hitter just isn’t strong enough to want to hit more fly balls. Billy Hamilton, for example, shouldn’t hit as many fly balls as he does. Ben Revere should try to keep the ball out of the air. A year ago, Panik looked like a guy who’d want to keep the ball on the ground or on a line, but now he has proof of some power upside. He shouldn’t get too fly-ball happy, but for him, a fly ball can be a hit. It can be the best of hits. With more strength in his swing, Panik is more like a hitter and less like a wall.

At the moment, the Giants have one of the best middle infields in baseball. Neither Crawford nor Panik were all that highly regarded, but they’re beating expectations and allowing the Giants to contend with what was supposed to be the league’s most terrifying juggernaut. Once upon a time, it seemed like the Giants were particularly good about developing pitchers. Now they’re having real success developing hitters. Maybe the Giants are just good at developing players.





Jeff made Lookout Landing a thing, but he does not still write there about the Mariners. He does write here, sometimes about the Mariners, but usually not.

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MentholMember since 2018
11 years ago

Their first baseman ain’t bad, either.

sophiahelix
11 years ago

My understanding is he’s been using a couple of guys to model his form after — Buster Posey (like most of his teammates) and Barry Bonds (like most of his lefty teammates).

Eric Walker
11 years ago

As to Crawford, an awful lot of his 2015 blooming is driven by an ubnsustainably high BABIP. At his career BABIP levels, he looks a lot like pre-2015 Crawford. In the field, he can make dazzling play after dazzling play, then boot the simplest routine one, and he does that a bit too often (which is why his defensive metrics never seem to match eyeball accounts). All in all, he is a good player, but not what he seems right now.

pitnick
11 years ago
Reply to  Eric Walker

Not really. If we assume that his BABIP thus far was luck influenced (which we probably shouldn’t given his hard hit ball % is way up), and take away 6 hits to get him closer to his career BABIP, we still have a line of .264/.340/.471. That’s a heck of a lot better than his pre-2015 line (which was already far better than what had been expected of him). This is largely because his ISO is up 64 points over last year and 82 points over his career mark.

obsessivegiantscompulsive
11 years ago
Reply to  Eric Walker

The truth lies in a combo of the two comments, I believe.

BCraw’s issue in seasons past was his propensity to, for whatever reason, wear out by sometime in June. In 2013, he played with that finger injury he got sliding into second base in May when he should have DLed, he admitted later. Regarding 2014, I would point out Bochy statements this season about giving Crawford more rest so that he can stay strong deeper into the season.

In 2013, to June 1st, he was at .287/.350/.446/.796 with .327 BABIP and 169 ISO. His power and batting line declined from there, but even as late as in August, his BABIP was in the .320’s.

In 2014, to June 1st, he was at .235/.310/.421/.730 with .274 BABIP and 186 ISO. But he had a good June, and at his peak in June 25th, was hitting .259/.339/.462/.801 with .310 BABIP and 203 ISO.

So far in 2015, to June 1st, he is at .292/.364/.494/.858 with .344 BABIP and 202 ISO.

So Crawford has shown power early in the season, and as deep as late June, before wilting mid-season. And his BABIP will regress, but I still think there is a question of how far he will regress, but I don’t think that it will necessarily regress to career mean pre-2015 (.291), as his 3 year BABIP is .304, if 2013 was outlier because of injury, then .307 BABIP of 2012 and 2014 is closer to the truth (16 point swing from career), and he’s been able to keep his BABIP to the .310-.320 level deep into the season before whatever it is saps his power and ability to hit. Still a big fall from where he is now, but instead of falling 50 points BABIP, it is more like 25-30 point, which would still be very good for a SS.

OMGiants
11 years ago
Reply to  Eric Walker

It’s easy to pick out that (or any) stat and try to discredit someone. The difference this year is his slumps are very short, if even exist any at all so far, and he’s consistantly getting it done in all situations. We will see what happens for the remainder of the season, but don’t discredit the lad just to be ‘that guy’. And everybody commits errors, although it is maddening to see highlight reel after highlight reel, then lose a game due to an error on a routine ball. But other than that happening the other night in the 9th against the Braves, he’s been way down on that this year as well.

Peter
11 years ago
Reply to  Eric Walker

As usual, Walker is picking out a residual and implying causality. What’s up is Brandon’s hard contact rate. And we can see why his hard contact rate is up by the change in the position of his hands with it’s intention of producing a shorter stroke to the ball. If the swing lengthens out, then we’ll see some regression back to his previously established career norms.

saint
11 years ago
Reply to  Eric Walker

Dee Gordon’s BABIP is unsustainably high. Crawford’s may be running a little hot but .333 is in no way unsustainable especially for a .300 career BABIP guy who has shown a ton more power over the last couple seasons.

Saint
11 years ago
Reply to  Eric Walker

lol

mooks
11 years ago

Eh, I don’t think anyone thinks the .300 avg is real, but there’s reason to suggest the power is legit. I dont think he’s tulo or anything but he’s steadily increased his hr rates and slg every year in the league and has s positive trend in his walk rate.

EHHH
11 years ago
Reply to  mooks

You don’t think the .300 is sustainable but the power is? Everything from his past points towards the opposite. The power has developed but he as always a pretty good at hitting for average.

Ron Blair
11 years ago

I have no doubt Little Joe can evolve and mature into a 10-15 HR player maybe 15-20 in his prime years.. Your article shows that process is underway. We’ll see if May was a fluke, but it sure seems that Crawford, Panik, and Belt are all maturing as hitters. I wouldn’t be surprised if 3rd baseman Duffy joins that trend shortly.

Ebenezer
11 years ago
Reply to  Ron Blair

Duffy’s an amazing story already, hitting only .253/.305/.289 in college.

obsessivegiantscompulsive
11 years ago
Reply to  Ebenezer

Plus, he had no homers in college.

Apparently, he added some muscles/weight during the off-season to boost his power going forward.

mettle
11 years ago

Would Pedroia serve as a useful comp?
How does he and his development and AB approach compare to Dustin’s?

jrubyMember since 2016
11 years ago
Reply to  mettle

Without really knowing the answer to your question, Panik is a solid five inches taller than Pedroia, so I’d guess the swing mechanics and such may be quite a bit different (especially since it’s the taller player with probably the lower power ceiling)

Near
11 years ago

The only player San Francisco has yet to develop is an OF with speed. Or any player with speed. They have fast guys, but poor baserunners. Their entire OF was acquired from outside the org, and it represents by far the fastest men on the team (Blanco, Pagan, Aoki, Pence).

SuperFan
11 years ago
Reply to  Near

And your point is??

Crawford has decent speed and gets a steal here and there.
I’m not sure where you’re going, other than the Giants’ faster players were acquired from outside the org. Ok…

obsessivegiantscompulsive
11 years ago
Reply to  SuperFan

This is just the latest and probably last stance of the Sabean Naysayers.

First, it was that he couldn’t find and develop players (ignoring the fact that he was running player development and the draft for the Yankees when they picked up Jeter, Pettite, Posada, Williams, Riviera, Snow).

Then it was he couldn’t develop position players, after he developed Cain and Lincecum.

Then it was that he couldn’t win a championship.

Then it was that he was lucky.

Then it was that he was lucky twice.

Now, apparently, it’s that he can’t find and develop OFs or position players with speed.

But this apparent flaw hasn’t stopped him from winning three championships in the past five seasons, which is the goal of most teams, so I concur, what is the point? That he has a flaw? Like every other GM, every other person?

And if you want to be technical, he did develop an OF with speed, Freddy Lewis was such a player, he was an average hitter over roughly 3+ seasons, had lots of speed but that’s where the statement gets confusing, first he criticizes speed, but then he says they have fast guys, which, last I heard, is guys with speed. I would agree that they haven’t found good baserunners who have speed, but if you look through Bill James Handbook for players who got a lot of extra bases without relying a lot on SB, the Giants have a lot of “non-speed” guys who contributed over 10 extra bases a season, some playing part-time (memory has Schierholtz and Ishikawa adding 10 bases, I think in 2009 or perhaps 2010).

Plus, they took a guy with speed but so-so SB% in Randy Winn and boosted him up to 90% while stealing more, so he got better as well as more. Pence too. So they appear to know how to teach it, they just haven’t had the guys with talent (and ability to learn) to teach them to. Gary Brown being the most recent example of a guy with speed but inability to steal bases well.

OMGiants
11 years ago
Reply to  Near

Blanco is the only ‘poor’ base runner, and that’s entirely due to him going for extra bags on his extra base hits he gets.

matt w
11 years ago

“When the Giants first promoted Panik to the majors, they admitted they didn’t think he was ready. He was just going to get some on-the-job training, as the Giants were desperate”

So, a Panik move?

rea
11 years ago
Reply to  matt w

There was talk about trading him to the Tigers, but nothing came of it. He didn’t look enough like Che Guevara for Panik in Detroit . . .

Ebenezer
11 years ago

Impressive job by the Giants’ staff in developing their infielders’ hitting. As a Mariners’ fan as well as a Giants’ fan, I’m curious how much Seattle’s lack of success developing their young hitters is bad luck, and how much is due to lackluster instruction.

rainiers_fan
11 years ago
Reply to  Ebenezer

I have the same question. The Mariners have had such poor success developing hitters that were higher draft choices.

David
11 years ago

Panik is very serious about every swing. He’s aiming to improve.

Tramps Like Us
11 years ago

the guy came up and took Dan Uggla’s place. For anyone who was watching, it was memorable how incredbly awful Uggla was last year. Just excrutiating. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say that, without Panik, they don’t make the playoffs last year.

OMGiants
11 years ago
Reply to  Tramps Like Us

You would have thought that when we lost Pagan & Cain too 😉 but you are %100 correct in assessing Paniks value to this team. Giants just aren’t a team that goes down when they lose a great player, they now have the depth that was missing in years past.

Nick
11 years ago

I’ve been watching Panik since his call to the bigs, and I’ve been patiently expecting his power to develop. The signs have always been there, and he’s making the adjustments to take advantage of his abilities. There’s a reason I call the guy “Baby Buster” and it’s starting to show. Of course, it might have something to do with looking like he could be Posey’s little brother, but now he’s starting to live up to the name!

obsessivegiantscompulsive
11 years ago

Nice and timely article on Panik. Nicely done. Belt, Crawford, Posey, and Panik were the drivers of the offense in May, all over .900 OPS, that always help any offense.

Panik wasn’t ready when he was brought up, it was like when Pedroia was brought up, both didn’t hit all that well their first month or so up, but showed their good command of their bats by not striking out much, while walking some as well. That convinced their teams to keep them in there and from there, they started hitting. From the day he got the starting job for good on Aug 4th, he hit .345/.374/.423/.797 with .391 BABIP. From July 28, when he started to get regular play, .332/.366/.405/.771 with .376 BABIP. That’s roughly two months.

Perhaps it’s an adjustment thing, getting into the swing of things. He wasn’t so good to start the 2015 season either, though better than last year. Then since May 1st, .321/.408/.505/.913 with .344 BABIP. It will be interesting to see where his talent level for BABIP is, but given his propensity for line drives (27% vs. MLB 25%) so far, it should be on the higher side than lower, in the majors.

OMGiants
11 years ago

The thing about Panik that is just like Posey, ‘slumping’ or ‘not doing very good’ for them is still hitting in the .280’s and .290’s, which for other players you would hope that they could ever get it up that high lol

John Myhill
11 years ago
Reply to  OMGiants

Blanco was also awesome in May. He’s leading the team in WPA now.

Nivra
11 years ago

I think you need to do a followup to this:

Matt Duffy: The Other Joe Panik