Kansas City Royals Top 36 Prospects

Below is an analysis of the prospects in the farm system of the Kansas City Royals. Scouting reports were compiled with information provided by industry sources as well as my own observations. This is the sixth year we’re delineating between two anticipated relief roles, the abbreviations for which you’ll see in the “position” column below: MIRP for multi-inning relief pitchers, and SIRP for single-inning relief pitchers. The ETAs listed generally correspond to the year a player has to be added to the 40-man roster to avoid being made eligible for the Rule 5 draft. Manual adjustments are made where they seem appropriate, but we use that as a rule of thumb.
A quick overview of what FV (Future Value) means can be found here. A much deeper overview can be found here.
All of the ranked prospects below also appear on The Board, a resource the site offers featuring sortable scouting information for every organization. It has more details (and updated TrackMan data from various sources) than this article and integrates every team’s list so readers can compare prospects across farm systems. It can be found here.
| Rk | Name | Age | Highest Level | Position | ETA | FV |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Carter Jensen | 22.8 | MLB | C | 2026 | 50 |
| 2 | Josh Hammond | 19.6 | A | SS | 2029 | 50 |
| 3 | Kendry Chourio | 18.6 | A | SP | 2029 | 50 |
| 4 | Blake Mitchell | 21.7 | A+ | C | 2027 | 50 |
| 5 | Ramon Ramirez | 20.9 | A+ | C | 2028 | 45+ |
| 6 | Luinder Avila | 24.7 | MLB | SIRP | 2026 | 45 |
| 7 | Angeibel Gomez | 17.1 | R | RF | 2031 | 45 |
| 8 | David Shields | 19.6 | A+ | SP | 2028 | 40+ |
| 9 | Justin Lamkin | 21.9 | A+ | SP | 2028 | 40+ |
| 10 | Asbel Gonzalez | 20.3 | AA | CF | 2029 | 40+ |
| 11 | Freddy Contreras | 17.7 | R | SP | 2029 | 40+ |
| 12 | Ben Kudrna | 23.2 | AAA | SP | 2026 | 40+ |
| 13 | Felix Arronde | 23.0 | AA | SP | 2026 | 40+ |
| 14 | Ramcell Medina | 18.4 | R | SS | 2030 | 40+ |
| 15 | Sean Gamble | 19.8 | A | 2B/CF | 2030 | 40+ |
| 16 | Yandel Ricardo | 19.5 | A | SS | 2029 | 40 |
| 17 | Warren Calcaño | 18.5 | R | SS | 2030 | 40 |
| 18 | Drew Beam | 23.2 | AA | SP | 2026 | 40 |
| 19 | Steven Zobac | 25.5 | AA | SP | 2026 | 40 |
| 20 | Blake Wolters | 21.5 | A | SP | 2028 | 40 |
| 21 | Shane Van Dam | 22.0 | A | SP | 2029 | 40 |
| 22 | Hiro Wyatt | 21.7 | A | SP | 2029 | 40 |
| 23 | Michael Lombardi | 22.6 | A | SIRP | 2027 | 40 |
| 24 | Austin Charles | 22.4 | A+ | SS | 2028 | 40 |
| 25 | Carson Roccaforte | 24.1 | AA | CF | 2027 | 40 |
| 26 | Tyson Guerrero | 27.2 | AAA | SIRP | 2026 | 40 |
| 27 | Josh Hansell | 24.2 | A+ | SIRP | 2028 | 35+ |
| 28 | Eric Cerantola | 26.0 | AAA | SIRP | 2026 | 35+ |
| 29 | Henry Williams | 24.6 | AAA | SP | 2026 | 35+ |
| 30 | Cameron Millar | 19.0 | R | SP | 2030 | 35+ |
| 31 | Dennis Colleran Jr. | 22.7 | AA | SIRP | 2028 | 35+ |
| 32 | Brooks Bryan | 21.8 | A | C | 2029 | 35+ |
| 33 | Jose Cerice | 20.9 | A+ | 3B | 2029 | 35+ |
| 34 | Frank Mozzicato | 22.8 | AA | SIRP | 2027 | 35+ |
| 35 | Kamden Edge | 21.3 | A+ | SIRP | 2029 | 35+ |
| 36 | Jaider Suárez | 17.1 | R | SS | 2032 | 35+ |
Other Prospects of Note
Grouped by type and listed in order of preference within each category.
Potential Starters
Grayson Boles, RHP
Hunter Patteson, LHP
Mason Black, RHP
Shane Panzini, RHP
Boles signed for $500,000 as an over-slot 18th-rounder last year. He has an innings-eating frame, touches the mid-90s, and has a chance to develop a plus slider. He has the most upside of this group. Although he’s been uncharacteristically wild to start the year, Patteson projects as a strike-throwing spot starter. He has an average slider and good command, but the fastball and change look light for more than a depth role. Black has just about exhausted his prospect eligibility. He’s an up-down length arm with a mix of fringy and average stuff and average command. Panzini’s fastball and curve tunnel effectively, but they’ve looked soft out of the bullpen early this season. He has enough velocity (up to 96 mph last year), adequate control, and a sufficiently good breaking ball to contribute in some capacity, but he doesn’t have an obvious role. He’s a depth option who could debut this season.
Upper-Level Depth
Sam Kulasingam, 2B
Javi Vaz, 2B
Peyton Wilson, UTIL
Luca Tresh, C
Gavin Cross, OF
An Air Force graduate, Kulasingam has raced to Double-A after getting drafted in the 13th round in 2024. He’s making plenty of contact and has a little upside if there’s late-arriving power on the way. As is, he’s an up-down second base prospect. Vaz has exceptional barrel control and measurable contact rates. That combination, plus wheels, and an ability to flex between the infield and outfield gives him a chance to grow into a versatile utility role. He’s been stuck in Double-A for a couple years now and is currently on the 60-day IL. In the last year, the plus-running Wilson has started games at second and third base, as well as in center and left field. He’s also a switch-hitter and simply does enough things to think that he’ll bounce around as a fill-in for a few years. Tresh doesn’t have a carrying tool, but he’s a competent enough catcher on both sides to collect a few big league per diems. Cross was the ninth overall pick of the 2022 draft. He hasn’t quite grown into the power that once seemed possible, and he’s struck out a ton in the upper minors.
Lower-Level Bats
Hyungchan Um, C
Luke Pelzer, OF
Nolan Sailors, OF
Um is a glove-first catching prospect out of South Korea. He’s a quiet receiver with a strong arm and clean, quick throwing mechanics. He’s a little undersized, and has below-average power and pitch recognition skills. Pelzer, KC’s 17th-rounder last year, went on the heater of all heaters after signing, hitting .446/.554/.585 at Low-A with 15 walks and 10 strikeouts. He’s found the Midwest League more challenging thus far, as better spin and changeups have eaten him up early. He’s a hit tool flier. Sailors was a fourth-round senior sign last year. He is a plus runner with a slashy approach. He doesn’t have much power, and he made a little less contact in High-A last year than you’d guess given how conservative his swing looks.
Young and Toolsy Fliers
Roni Cabrera, OF
Daniel Lopez, OF
Jhonayker Ugarte, INF
Scouts have long been on Cabrera’s athleticism and ability to generate above-average power with a very short swing. But he’s easily lured off balance, and spin in particular crushed him last year. Lopez is a projectable 6-foot-2, with long levers and a chance for late-arriving strength. He makes decent contact but didn’t hit much overall on the complex last year, and he looks ticketed for a corner outfield spot. Ugarte is a left-side defender with projectable power. His long, uphill swing got exploited in the ACL last year.
Reliever Fountain
Zachary Cawyer, RHP
Nick Conte, RHP
Aiden Jimenez, RHP
Yimi Presinal, RHP
Beck Way, RHP
L.P. Langevin, RHP
Yeri Perez, RHP
Bryson Dudley, RHP
Jose Gutierrez, RHP
For all the tools and all the analysis available in player development these days, sometimes a guy gets a nod of approval simply for having some “screw you” to him on the mound. Cawyer fits this description as an outwardly competitive righty who will throw anything at any time. He touches 97 and has above-average feel for spin, and the sum of his parts should carry him to at least an up-down role. Conte touches 100 and has mid-to-high-leverage stuff. He’s never thrown strikes, though his control has improved somewhat in pro ball. If KC can find a way to get him to 40 control, they’d really have something. Jimenez was the Royals’ fifth-round pick last year. He has average arm strength, a plus curveball, and a middle relief ceiling. Presinal touches 98 and flashes an average slider. He also fired the worst pickoff attempt in the history of the game this spring. Way is a lower-slot sinkerballer with a couple east-west breaking balls. It’s middle relief stuff if he can throw enough strikes. He’s off to a good start in that regard in Omaha thus far.
Langevin, a fourth-rounder back in 2024, works almost exclusively with his low-slot, mid-90s fastball. He battled through a lat strain last year, so I’m not quite ready to sink him yet despite how wild he’s been as a pro. It is perhaps time to find a second pitch, though. Perez is a good athlete who can touch the upper 90s, and he’ll flash a plus fastball and slider at his best. He’s had trouble harnessing his delivery and throwing strikes throughout his career. Both the strikes and velo are down this spring, the combination of which has me concerned enough to drop him to the HMs. He’s got the highest ceiling in this section. The late bite on Dudley’s slider, cutter, and, to a lesser extent, curve give him a path to missing bats. His fastball is on the fringy-average line, and as a slower-twitched athlete with just fair body control, the jury’s out on whether he can throw enough quality strikes to make everything work. Gutierrez is in Low-A and had success on the complex last season. He has average arm strength and feel to spin the ball, and it’s worth developing him as a starter to see if he can better differentiate his breaking balls and improve his fastball command before he shifts to relief, where he could have a couple 55s.
Reliever Fountain, Southpaw Edition
Caden Monke, LHP
Chazz Martinez, LHP
Hunter Owen, LHP
Darwin Rodriguez, LHP
Oscar Rayo, LHP
Helcris Olivárez, LHP
Cory Ronan, LHP
David Rodriguez, LHP
Monke missed all of 2024 and then was wild in his return last season. Despite that, the southpaw nearly made the main section of the list. He touches 98 and flashes a plus curve, and there may even be a path to throwing strikes. He has a loose arm, but he’s very lean, and there’s a chance the strike-throwing ticks up naturally if he’s able to get stronger in his lower half. He’s an intriguing flier. Martinez was a two-way player in college. He’s a sinker-slider-changeup lefty now with just a fair breaking ball, which seems to have contributed to him running reverse splits in recent years. Regardless, that makes him an awkward roster fit because you usually want your depth lefties to take care of the Yordans of the world and that’s not really Martinez’s game. For a brief window after he was drafted, Owen looked like a budding no. 4 from the left side. As he filled out, his stuff softened.
Darwin Rodriguez reached Columbia as a starter last summer, where the southpaw sat in the low 90s with a change and a spinny, if soft, curve. That raises the possibility that some day he’ll sit mid-90s with a change and maybe even a slider in relief. He isn’t a great athlete, though. Rayo is a low-slot Nicaraguan lefty with an above-average change and slider, but a 30 fastball. He could really use a couple ticks of velo. Olivárez is a lefty with some funk and a fastball that touches 99. He’s walked the world for years now, which raises the question of whether he’d be better off as a lefty without funk and a fastball touching 98. You can see why orgs — he’s been with Colorado, Boston, San Francisco, and now KC in recent years — keep trying. Ronan was an undrafted free agent out of Hawai’i last year. He has fringy arm strength, but a nice changeup and good feel to spin it. He needs a sharper breaking ball. David Rodriguez touches the low 90s and throws a shapely curve. There’s body control and projectable spin ingredients if he can get significantly stronger.
DSL Crew
Denis Samudio, RHP
Carlos De La Rosa, RHP
Moises Amezquita, LHP
Luis Steven King, INF
Luis Ramon King, OF
Lewis German, CF
Video of Royals DSL action is more difficult to track down than it is for most other clubs, so we’re working with a little less material than normal for this section. Samudio was an older signee who performed on the complex last year. He throws strikes and touches 95 with some of the best vertical break in the system. De La Rosa is throwing 96-98 this spring. It’s messy and the slider needs work, but the arm strength is certainly there. Amezquita is an undersized lefty who sits either side of 90, but he can spin the hell out of the ball. The Kings became the first international free agent twins to sign with the same team. Luis Ramon got the bigger bonus, but Luis Steven had the better debut season. German is a center fielder with power but scary swing-and-miss data.
System Overview
While Kansas City’s scouting and development apparatus doesn’t have a glaring weakness, it’s hard to say that any part of the operation stands out as a real strength. The club’s big Latin American signings mostly haven’t panned out. There are developmental success stories here and there, but also a lot of guys with projectable traits who haven’t really launched. And despite generally picking near the top of the draft, Bobby Witt Jr. aside, the Royals have missed on a lot of their first-rounders over the past decade.
Out of this seemingly hostile soil, Kansas City has managed to conjure an impact big leaguer seemingly annually. Witt was perhaps too good to fail, but Maikel Garcia, Vinnie Pasquantino, Noah Cameron, and Carter Jensen sure weren’t. On most days, seven or eight of the Royals in the lineup are homegrown, and while this core isn’t best-in-class, it’s plenty good.
I’m not really sure how both things are possible. Definitionally, a good farm system produces good big leaguers, and the Royals have done that. At the same time, the lack of supplemental pieces on the roster are conspicuous in their absence. Tons of pitchers have stagnated here — the team released Asa Lacey this week, to pick one prominent, if injury plagued, example — and the result is that the org has spent money and prospect capital on bench bats and relievers. That comes at a significant opportunity cost for one of the league’s few truly small market teams. Even the cookie cutter development groups are able to reliably produce homegrown relievers, but the Royals only have one (Daniel Lynch IV) in the bullpen right now. The big question going forward is whether Kansas City can sustainably produce impact regulars amidst pretty high attrition rates. I don’t have strong conviction either way; this system is a paradox.
Brendan covers prospects and the minor leagues for FanGraphs. Previously he worked as a Pro Scout for the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Witt and Maikel have been impactful, no doubt.
But Vinnie P with 4.0 WAR over 1,899 career PA? That’s about as middling as it gets. Even lil Kyle Isbel has managed 5.2 WAR in his 1,576 career PA.
Carter Jensen’s first 144 PA have certainly been impactful, but I would imagine Noah Cameron’s true talent is a lot closer to the 104 FIP- he has posted over his first 158 IP than the shiny 78 ERA-.
I don’t think the Royals are much of a paradox. They got a couple few lucky hits over the last four five years, but haven’t developed nearly enough supporting pieces to be more than blah in the worst division in MLB.
KCR During the Thirty Team Era
pre-WS 1998 to 2013: 1,104 W – 1,486 L (30th)
World Series 2014 to 2015: 184 W – 140 L (4th)
post-WS 2016 to 2021: 378 W – 492 L (27th)
BWJ Era 2022 to present 297 W – 375 L (25th)
That they’ve barely improved over their post-WS doldrums with the addition of BWJ (and needed to go 12 W – 1 L against a historically bad White Sox team in 2024 to do even that) kind of says it all.
Still plenty of time to turn it around this year, but only the Mets 12 game bender is saving them from being the worst team in MLB today.
those samples are sooooo distorted. 16 seasons, 2 seasons, 6 seasons, 4 seasons. i’m not trying to say they haven’t been rough, but these samples are very skewed.
Could try to slice it up a little differently…
1998-2012: 1,018 W – 1,410 L (30th)
[worst team in MLB for the first 15 years of the Thirty Team Era]
2013-17: 431 W – 379 L (10th)
[competitive window around two WS years]
2018-23: 338 W – 532 L (30th)
[worst team in MLB again, only seven years this time]
2024-present: 176 W – 172 L (17th)
[BWJ & MKG combined 27.3 WAR is 73% of their position player total]
…that probably better represents the progress they’ve made the last two years with the ascension of BWJ & MKG plus the gains they’ve made on the pitching side (111 ERA- | 109 FIP- from 2018-23 versus a 90 ERA- | 94 FIP- from 2024-25), but still leaves them looking like a pretty blah team.
So far this year they are at a 104 ERA- (21st) and 114 FIP- (26th). Depth Charts projects them at 23rd for RA/G rest of season. If the pitching that has carried the team the last two years doesn’t get it turned around they’ll be looking at two years of diminishing results (possibly big time this year) instead of building off of their White Sox aided playoff appearance in 2024.
he said Vinnie is as middling as it gets which is absolutely true by your own cited stats relative to other 1B. Hes a league average 1B which is fine but not a difference maker. And I guess we will see on Cameron but I certainly don’t think it’s unreasonable to think he’s going to pitch much closer to a league average ERA going forward than he has so far, for all the same reasons FIP has always been more predictive of future ERA than actual ERA, even if it is imperfect.
Still, Cameron and Bubic being league averagish starting pitchers are good outcomes royals should get credit for anyway. I don’t project either to be much better than that and that’s fine. Lugo and Wacha contracts have worked out well enough for FA contracts and the Ragans trade was indeed a steal. Witt has turned into a HOF trajectory player and Garcia has broken out. Things been pretty good lately and yet the teams results still suck and has maxed out at projecting to be league average basically lol. Middling team in the worst division in baseball seems like a pretty accurate description of the royals, I don’t see how anyone could quibble with thaf assessment tbh. Bullpen is awful
And to be clear I am absolutely thrilled to root for a league average team every night as long as they still have a prayer to make the playoffs in August. It beats 90% of my lifetime! which is why this season has been so depressing because playing league average going forward isnt gonna cut it due to their horrific start
edit- replied to wrong comment my bad
Vinnie P. is one of the most strangely over rated MLB players. I guess it’s because he gets lots of RBI’s; but the dude has 1.5 WAR in each of the last two seasons and is already 28 with a bad body. He’s honestly a non-tender candidate soon given the fact that guys like Josh Bell & Rhys Hoskins are almost free and you’d barely notice the difference.
Vinnie P is a player who can help you win in my book, but he really should be a strong-side platoon 1B/DH guy, not an everyday player.
Career against RHP: 1444 PA, 120 wRC+
Career against LHP: 455 PA, 80 wRC+
Last year was even more stark, in 2025 he had a 132 wRC+ against RHP in 518 PA, and a 63 wRC+ against LHP in 164 PA. He is probably a 2+ WAR player last year if you just… give literally any halfway competent RHH 100 of Vinnie’s PAs against lefties, and the team is better for it.
But the Royals have determined that Vinnie can and should play everyday, so he does.
He’s not even an RE24 darling, as ribbie guys go!
Sure feels like you developed an opinion first and then tried to justify it rather than vice versa.
You basically gloss right over Witt, Garcia and Jensen who all look like amazing picks at the moment. You also dont mention Cags at all who smashed the minor leagues and has looked pretty darn good this year. Could probably throw Bubic in there as well (although injuries have been an issue)
Comparing a 1B WAR to a CF WAR is just crazy talk. One is the last valuable defensive position and the other is, at worst, the second most valuable. And WAR is designed to show that difference. I’m not going to argue that Vinny is an elite hitter or anything but in his 2 full seasons he has a 113 wRC+. Thats far from bad and about 35 points higher than Isbel’s (which again, silly comparision as CF and 1B have bastly different expectations). If you want to compare him to his peers, IE: other 1B Vinny is 18th in WAR and 15th in wRC+ since he came into the league. Again, not elite but not even close to “he is worse than Isbell” implication you make.
You claim Cameron probably isn’t that good with zero evidence and despite the fact he has been good at every level, and point to FIP as justification even though Cameron is a pretty typical “FIP breaker” type pitcher. Among pitchers who threw at least 130 innings last year Cameron had the 3rd highest soft contact %. 1 spot ahead of some guy named Skubal. He, not surprisingly, also had the 12th lowest exit velo last year. He just doesnt generate a ton of K’s so is never going to be a FIP darling.
Even though he wasn’t a draft pick the Chapman for Ragans trade looks like an all time steal for KC. Which KC front office deserves credit for (draft is only one avenue to build a team).
Basically you are handwaving every good outcome as luck or not existing at all and exxagerating anything remotley negative
Witt involved a lot of luck. He is so immensely talented. I think I was the low guy on Witt and I thought he looked like a 3-win guy. I think I said “if everything turns out well he could be a Trevor Story level player” while other people were out comping him to A-Rod. I think I was wrong and they were right, he is just way too talented to struggle for long.
Jensen and Maikel Garcia huge real success stories though. I still am holding out hope for Jac too, he looks less awful right now so that is good.
Bubic would have been a huge success story had he not lost two years to injury. Cameron looked like a huge success story last year–even if you think he’s a #4 starter, that’s an outstanding outcome for a 7th round pick. This year…let’s see.
I don’t know what to make of Pasquantino. I thought he was going to be a star after 2022 and he isn’t.
It’s not a great group here, they’re clearly outclassed by a lot of other smaller market teams like Reds, Rays, Guardians, and Brewers. They’re more like the Pirates where they’re hit or miss. The Pirates are also a good comp because they seriously lucked into Skenes as well, which makes them look really good.
it feels just lazy to chalk up Witt (or any high pick really) to luck. Immensely talented, sure, but so is every guy taken second overall and very few of them wind up like Witt. Remember, he was seen as a bit of a consolation prize behind Rutschman and there was alot of panic when BWJ was kinda “meh” his first year. He has come along ways from there to put it mildly.
Its a bit of the predetermined outcome fallacy. Just because player turns out great doesn’t mean it was inevitable he was gonna be great.
The rest, time will tell. IMO, people are way way to quick to go negative on prospects/young players though.
I also think the Pirates should receive a certain amount of credit for Skenes. But that also involved a tremendous amount of luck.
Cameron’s track record of FIP-beating consists of 2024 and 2025…and his xERA would reflect soft contact.
His FIP issues are more about how many bombs he gives up.
Blake Mitchell’s contact rate in High-A right now is 53.5%. In High-A.
I get “stay on the athletes” and that he’s missed a lot of development time. Holding him where he was before, that is fine. But I just don’t believe that a guy whose best case scenario is “Mike Zunino as a 50 defender” is a 50. He’s a perpetually injured player who plays a position where his body takes a beating. He is a 20 on the most important tool and is 50/50 to get beyond that level.
At this rate he won’t get to MLB until he’s 25 and he’ll be out of options (age 27, I think?), and then he’ll be in DFA limbo as he gets passed around the league.
If other front offices around the league think he’s a 50 this offseason they should absolutely trade him.
This team needs to win while Bobby Witt is still around and they are doing a terrible job of it right. Maybe this season is already over for them, but once they trade Bubic and maybe some other less-prominent guys like Isbel at the deadline this year they need to pivot back into buying.
Blake Mitchell is obvious trade bait. He is likely going to be blocked by Carter Jensen anyway, and I don’t see any way his prospect stock goes up from here. But I think they have to listen on almost anyone who is looking at a 2029 or 2030 ETA.
I should add: I think Mitchell going to stick around MLB simply because catchers simply do not hit and he’s left handed.
Even if he can only barely hit right handed pitching he can platoon and hold down a role like the Reese McGuire / Matt Thaiss / Ben Rortvedt / Steven Vogt when he’s not hurt. I sincerely doubt he’s going to hit worse than Reese McGuire (or behave as badly as him). He might even be better!
But he’s going to get DFA’d a lot.
(This comment section is going to be 80% “sad’s statement on Mitchell and responses to it telling me I’m overreacting)
Yeah if I remember correctly I think Keith Law had him in the 50’s in his top 100. I’ve watched him live for ten games and maybe that’s not enough of a sample but I just didn’t see anything from the hitting side. I don’t think he’d hit 200 in the majors.
Yeah he is hitting .205 now. He’s walking like crazy but that is not sustainable when he gets against pitchers who know how to throw strikes.
I spent a weirdly large amount of time looking into this when the Yankees list came up and we were talking about Spencer Jones here. As far as I can tell if you can get your contact rate up to 64% and you have double plus raw you have the ingredients to at least play a platoon role. There are two or three massive outliers like Gallo and Murakami, but for the most part you have to make contact at the level of Matt Wallner (about 64%) to make it even as a TTO platoon masher.
In theory, “Matt Wallner at catcher” is more than a 50 even if he only has 400 PAs a year. In practice Mitchell has a long way to go though make contact like Matt Wallner. If this is what he has done so far you have to project really heavy on the hit tool.
I checked out Keith’s write up, and he pegged him as a regular who might hit .240 with 20 homers and plus defense. Which sure, seems like a 50 outcome, but if he’s a .200 hitter with fewer than 20 bombs and good defense, that sounds like a backup catcher or someone who bounces around. It’s picking nits maybe, but the downside wants me to peg him at 45, and I want guys with more upside ranked in that 50 range, even if they are less likely to achieve those positive outcomes.
I mean, he also sports a .400 OBP and 140 wRC+. But I guess those dont support your opinion so why mention them 😉
Also, how is he perpetually injured? He had one injury lol.
I don’t trust that high walk rates in the minors are anything other than just sitting back and waiting for guys to miss the zone. And I think that is what is going on here, because he really does not swing much. About 41% of the time. He’s just waiting for them to walk him, and sometimes he swings but he’s missing when he does.
You got me on the injured part though, I guess I just read too much into the “he missed all this development time” part. That doesn’t make it better though if he didn’t miss all that development time, just different.
I don’t know, he could turn out well. But right now he’s graded as having 55 pitch selection and I think that is very wrong. I think he’s not swinging because he can’t figure out what the pitch is.
I think Edouard Julien is a good example of how extreme patience in the minors, when coupled with severe contact issues, doesn’t work well in the majors. Passivity can lead to respectable OBPs in the minors, but gets totally exposed in MLB.
Sure. And I could come up with probably a dozen guys with that profile who were not “exposed” in MLB.
Jazz Chisholm was a extreme patience gut with contact issues. He has been a 4 win player the past 2 seasons.
…Chisholm’s career high BB% was 11.4, in AA.
Jazz was not an extreme patience guy in the minors–his walk rate was 9.1% vs 19.7% for Julien. Jazz’ carrying traits were a power-speed combination and the potential for plus middle infield defense. Jazz has been about as patient in the majors as expected, and about as strikeout prone, but he’s a 4-win player because of added value by his speed and defense.
This was the lesson of KATOH that people have forgotten now that he works for the Twins (or is it Guardians?). A low strikeout rate in the minors is almost always a good thing. A high walk rate is (on average) neither good nor bad because it means too many different things.
Mitchell does hit for power which is the other main thing that predicts success. That walk rate is going to go way, way down though. Maybe he makes it as a Matt Wallner type who plays catcher 450 PAs a year but at this point you might as well be throwing darts at a board. Pretty much every prospect busts and the upside is real but he’s 21, he’s in High A, and he can’t make contact. This is not the guy I would bet on.
Yup, the one trick to becoming elite (or is it two tricks?) is to not strikeout while hitting with power.
Like Maikel Franco and Jesus Montero!
Genuinley not trying to sound like a dick but it doesn’t sound like you have ever seen him play. You are just scouting the stat lines.
The people who do watch him all seem to agree with what BG says in this article. As do I (and yes I have watched him)
Everyone except Eric, who is also very concerned he won’t make contact.
>Out of this seemingly hostile soil, Kansas City has managed to conjure an impact big leaguer seemingly annually.
I guess I wonder what the general hit rate is for prospects (though that is tough because you’d have to do it by FV tiers and I’m sure Ben Clemens or Eric already did it but whatever)? Because you surely wouldn’t expect an org to put up an 0-fer. Like even the Angels (using them as a proxy for a bad minor league development system) have pumped out a few guys over the years.
I think the Royals issue has been as stated, bad first round pick outcomes, where misses hurt a lot more. Yes, they get some credit for Witt Jr even if his flame was too bright to be put out by even the worst orgs and there was serious debate between him or Vaughn at 1.2 (and I liked Vaughn…). But outside of Witt Jr, it’s been really, really rough and fittingly, they just released Asa Lacy the other day (who they paid the highest bonus in franchise history for a pitcher).
And at the same time, it does feel like players leave the org and find success elsewhere to various degrees (O’Hearn, Adam, Strahm, Melendez might just be on a hot streak).
I would say for a team who has picked as high as they have (consistently top 10), you’d expect more out of their drafts than kicking out a few 2 WAR players, especially when those guys tend to NOT be the first round picks.
Yes I don’t even understand how this is a topic of debate if is obvious rhe royals are completely terrible at position player development. They have basically one legitimate non Bobby Witt position player success story in the last decade and even that player was one of the worst hitters in the entire league for two whole years! I like Vinnie P and think he is a perfectly fine 1B but he’s not an impact player. Garcia is the only win since Salvador Perez basically. Merrifield wasted away in minors most of his career (not that I am even saying a mistake was made there). Other players have gone on to hit elsewhere.
One thing I don’t think non royals fans may be aware of is that we LITERALLY HAVE NOT BEEN A TOP HALF OF THE LEAGUE OFFENSE IN LIKE 30 YEARS FOR HOME RUNS OR WALK RATE someone correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure it’s true. Even the successful teams NEVER walked and NEVER hit for power. I honestly believe at this point there has to be some sort of anti Coors effect at Kauffman becsuse there is no way that should be possible to never even be a top half of league offense for some of these numbers. And the pitchers do consistently seem to out pitch their peripherals
I think it’s fair to consider pitching separately and I have less of a strong opinion on that front and think it’s fair to give someone credit for some good success stories last few years. But that is more likely to have been just a league average thing than any real skill iyam.
Just a truly atrocious organization for my entire life that completely lucked into a fun 2 year World Series run that I’ll cherish forever but ppl forget they lose the wild card game like 99% of time in 2014 and the Astros elimination game in 2015 a similarly high percentage of the time. Thank god they didnt but i give them next to no credit for those runs other fhan for at least going for it and getting zobrist and cueto
Funny, as a Tiger fan that 2 year run just pissed me off to no end 🙂
Tigers had 5 playoff berths (& a 6th year where they lost a 1 game playoff) in 9 years..made the WS 2x as huge favorites & went 1-8 while playing like hot garbage both times..& to watch KC win it in 1 of the only 2 good years in a 30 year span always annoyed me.
I won’t get into the quality of the team, it was certainly unconventional, but, they won, so what can you say?? They deserved it those years & flags fly forever, right?
Oh boy that Blake Mitchell 50 call is going to be controversial.
I’m bearish and don’t see it. A player that swings and misses half the time at high A with a 20 health grade is not the every day player that a 50 entails.
Its really not. MLB has him as a top 100 prospect (75th i think?). So did Keith Law IIRC.
I think the Hammond/Mitchell grades are too agressive for me. Mitchell strikes me as a second division starter/high end backup that just doesn’t make enough contact to get to average starter or better. He has also had a bit of injury issues so far. Funny enough I actually don’t disagree with the overall grades (though you can argue a 20 hit tool is the future) but that does not equal a 50 FV to me even at catcher.
One thing I will say though is I think Jensen should be considered top 20 and a 55 FV at worse and yandel should be a grade fv higher
Agreed. Hammond’s upside sounds a lot like Carson Williams to me. Perhaps a 50 grade is fair in that light but at only 19 in A ball and seeing Carson struggle, that’s too aggressive for me. That being said, if he throws 95 and has an accurate arm, what more does he have to do to get beyond a 60 throw?
Hammond’s upside is quite good. A shortstop prospect with 60 field / 60 raw has tons of upside.
The issue is that he’s a teenager in A ball with hit tool risk. I wouldn’t be surprised if he turned into Willy Adames or if he never reached the majors or anything in between. Huge variance on him…
MIL: 309.5
DET: 291
NYM: 277.5
STL: 275
CLE: 268
LAD: 248
SEA: 241.5
CHWS: 197
Tex: 192.5
TOR: 179.5
CIN: 174
AZ: 171
KCR: 171(this feels way too high for me, among farms ranked below them I would probably only take them over angels and maybe astros)
Col: 160
PHI: 158.5
A’s: 145
NYY: 142.5
LAA: 121
ATL: 114.5
Hou: 68
Agree with your sentiment here on KC. A disproportiate amount of their high end talent is only in A ball. I’d prefer a few of the farms under them as well
The bottom part of that list is pretty dire. I’m not in on Holliday or Lagrange so I think I would probably go Phillies, A’s, Yankees, Royals, Rockies, Braves, but that they would all be in a similar tier. I would put the Angels and Astros below them in the last tier.
But Padres list is going to be apocalyptic, so I don’t think the Angels and Astros are going to make up the bottom tier for long.
The Padres list will be epic. I think they would still be last even if they still had De Vries.
A 60 FV is worth 55 alone, that would put them well above houston with likes of mendez/salas/mayfield/kruz probably in the 40+/45 fv range
For a non-numerical ranking of the system, I think the Pads may still be subjectively a last-place farm system even with one elite prospect.
They’ll probably still have Salas as a 50 because they don’t like moving off of guys when they are hurt but he has not hit since 2023.
I think he is probably a 45, and I’d put him behind Kash Mayfield who is probably only a 45+.
I don’t like the Astros system but I think I would take Ethan Pecko over anyone in the Padres system, and Alvarez and Bryce Mayer and Miguel Ullola are at least interesting.
He’s young, and catchers are weird, but I’ve always been the low man on Salas. Even saying he hasn’t hit since 2023 is misleading, because that year he only hit for 48 games in A ball, which looks like it was just a heater (as he’s never come close to that power again).
I’ll readily admit I’m a Cubs homer, but people were fighting me for years that he was better than Ballesteros. Mo Baller is not a catcher, but he’s now got over a hundred PAs of being a very very good hitter at the MLB level.
He shot up prospect lists by going on a heater at age 17, which was all projection based. This year is make or break, because he’s now looking like a 20 year old who can’t hit (and he really shouldn’t have been promoted to AA, but it seems like the Pads don’t want to demote him to reset).
In addition to that he was the consensus top amateur in the 2023 IFA class. Eric gave him a 45+ right off the bat. Then he did well as a 17 year old at Low A, which as far as I can tell is totally unheard of. If there was a high school junior who put up a 120 wRC+ against A-ball players in over 200 PAs, that guy would be a #1 draft pick candidate. And he was a potential gold glove caliber catcher.
He has been hurt since then but at some point that becomes its own problem.
The rankings after hitting well at 17 in A-ball were warranted, but then he followed that up by not hitting at all in a full season at age 18. I don’t think he was hurt that year, but could be wrong. Last year was an injury lost season, and now he’s in AA, not doing much at 20. Injuries have cost him some development time, and catchers are almost as bad as pitchers in developing anyway. And as you mention, injuries can become their own problem, and if he does end up being injury prone, I would worry about that at catcher.
I’m not in on Lagrange but I am very in on Hess and Dax
If we were to do tiers of these so far, I would probably make the cuts between tiers at $276M, $220M, $185M, $171M (with AZ being above in higher tier and KC being below the line), $130M + the Braves above that line, and the Astros and Angels in the last tier (for now).
Getting a Carter Jensen HR notification for my fantasy team as I read through his profile was a cool happenstance. The guy is mashing the ball right now. I wonder if they will keep him at catcher?
Highly aligned with the Angiebel Gomez and Freddy Contreras takes. Chourio deserves the buzz he’s getting but Contreras looks phenomenal.
I guess it’s just hard for me to see why Jensen is only a 50. He’s young, has plate discipline and power and plays at a premium position. Oh…and he’s actually doing it against major leaguers. I guess it’s the hand loop thing and Brendan thinking it’s going to eventually be exploited by Major League pitching?